Re: [Samba] Experience on using Samba with XP SP2

2004-11-10 Thread Walter Willmertinger
Is there some new idea about the slow printing dialogue after applying 
SP2 to XP?
Do you need some new log files?

Gerald (Jerry) Carter schrieb:
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Walter Willmertinger wrote:
| I did the local test (same windows driver version) and it
| takes not a  whole second to load the printer dialogue!
| As opposed to the samba printer (as default printer) 17
| seconds!
Walter,
That's an invalid test.  For a real comparison, you need to
install the driver on a remote Windows 2000 print server
and disable the Advanced Printing Features.  Then connect
to the printer from your XP client and run the tests.


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Re: [Samba] Experience on using Samba with XP SP2

2004-10-21 Thread Walter Willmertinger
But why we have this big (annoying) difference with and without SP2?
Gerald (Jerry) Carter schrieb:
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|
| rruegner schrieb:
|
| Hi Walter,
| relate to your answers i would say your win drivers arent very
| compatibel to win xp sp2,
| have you tried to get the printer directly connected to a win xp serv
| pack2 machine using with the same drivers?
|
|
| the driver I use is the newest driver of kyocera. But anyway, maybe
| there is the problem.
| If I change the default printer to another printer, as an HP 
Laserjet 6L
| with MS windows driver, the dialogue comes much more quickly (5
| seconds). With the Kyocera-Mitas KM-2030 as standard printer, it takes
| 17 seconds to get the dialogue.

Could not be a bug just a chatty driver then.  The HP Laserjet
8150 PCL 6 driver is a lot like this as well.


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Re: [Samba] Experience on using Samba with XP SP2

2004-10-21 Thread Walter Willmertinger
I did the local test (same windows driver version) and it takes not a 
whole second to load the printer dialogue! As opposed to the samba 
printer (as default printer) 17 seconds!

rruegner schrieb:
Hi Walter,
relate to your answers i would say your win drivers arent very 
compatibel to win xp sp2,
have you tried to get the printer directly connected to a win xp serv 
pack2 machine using with the same drivers?
if the buggy behavior stay with lokal conected drivers and printer
you know that you have to wait for better drivers or trying
another setup maybe using ghostscript drivers wih cups and/or raw 
printing.
Best Regards

Walter Willmertinger schrieb:

rruegner schrieb:
Hi Walter,
i have the same setup samba 3.07 , cups win xp serv pack 2 german.
I have noticed that something changed in behavior after the upgrade 
to win xp serv pack 2 , but non of your described failures are comming
up in my setups for hp laser printers , and canon bjc 2000 as well 
as my pdf printer.
I only noticed after upgrade to serv pack 2 that ich have to refresh
the pinter icon in the taskbar now after printing is done to disapear.
also my standart paper size is now switching to letter and not 
staying to default dina 4.
But i have not upgraded my cups or/and win drivers ( which is 
allways recomended ), i wanted to cotroll this stuff these days but 
as this bugs are not really heavy for me , i will wait until there 
is time.
I dont think this is really a problem with samba.
Are you using cups?

YES, I think it is cups 1.1.20
How is your smb.conf

very simple: Here the relevant parts:
# Global parameters
[global]
workgroup = CSINTERN
server string = col Samba Server on RedHat
log file = /usr/local/samba/var/log.%m
max log size = 10
deadtime = 60
preferred master = No
domain master = No
ldap ssl = no
printer admin = root, walterw, fritzw, gerhardj
hosts allow = 192.168.1.
[homes]
comment = Home Directories
read only = No
create mask = 0750
[printers]
comment = All Printers
path = /var/spool/samba
printer admin = root, walterw
create mask = 0700
guest ok = Yes
printable = Yes
use client driver = Yes
browseable = No
[print$]
comment = Share fuer Printer Treiber
path = /usr/local/samba/lib/printers
write list = root, walterw, fritzw, gerhardj
[kyocera-ps]
comment = Kopierdrucker mit Duplexfunktion
path = /var/spool/samba
printer admin = root, walterw
read only = No
create mask = 0700
guest ok = Yes
printable = Yes
printer name = KYOCERA
use client driver = Yes
oplocks = No
share modes = No
**

, have you checked cups logs,

nothing special!
do you have the latest printers?

Yes, actual drivers
What are this Printers ( Manufacter )

Kyocera, HP ...
Have disabled the xp firewall

Tried with and without firewall
as well as the webclient services on xp,

tried with enabled and disabled
what are the event logs talking at the win xp?

only on XP startup I get an error message:
you can see in the appended temp.jpg
If you don't see it:
It is a message in sytem part.
Source is MRxSmb
Type is warning
Event number is 3019
Text is: ( if I try to translate): Redirector Service cannot 
recognize the type of connection

Is file sharing running corect with your samba machine?

Yes, no problem, even with MS Access
Is it a stand alone spooler , 

???
do you do accounting, 

nothing setup
are you printing
via a printserver device

yes, network print server, done over CUPS
or direct over lpd/usb

no!
Do you use postscript/ghostscript filters, or direct win drivers?

direct win drivers
All this stuff must be tested and controlled to give you the right 
answer/help...there is no naturally reason why printing with samba
should fail with win xp as far i know

It does not fail, the startup of the print dialogue is just very slow 
!! When removing SP2, the problem has gone!

Best Regards
Walter Willmertinger schrieb:
We have problems with printing after installing XP SP2.
In nearly every software it takes about 10 seconds to 30 seconds, 
if you click on Print-Button and wait for the print dialogue window.
Extremly slow are programs like MS Word (30 seconds, when you open 
a document the first time).

Another problem, (but I am sure it's not a samba related problem): 
In some word documents you have problems viewing embedded graphics. 
Sometimes you see the graphics, sometimes not. It is not a problem 
with wrong settings (View - Use placeholders for Graphics). In 
preview there is no graphics, maybe after some scrolling the 
graphics appear, on the printout graphics are contained.

Samba installed is 3.0.7 (compiled on RH 9.0 with standard options)!
Regards, Walter
rruegner schrieb:
CHAN YICK WAI schrieb:
Just would like to ask if anyone has experience with Samba with 
XP SP2, can
you share with us?

Thanks,
Yw
Hi, for sure we share : it works
read the samba faqs for more info, 

Re: [Samba] Experience on using Samba with XP SP2

2004-10-21 Thread Gerald (Jerry) Carter
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Walter Willmertinger wrote:
| But why we have this big (annoying) difference with and without SP2?
Dunno.  But I wouldn't discount SP2.  There's lots of ISV's
that are having to update theior software to work withg SP2.



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Re: [Samba] Experience on using Samba with XP SP2

2004-10-21 Thread Gerald (Jerry) Carter
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Walter Willmertinger wrote:
| I did the local test (same windows driver version) and it
| takes not a  whole second to load the printer dialogue!
| As opposed to the samba printer (as default printer) 17
| seconds!
Walter,
That's an invalid test.  For a real comparison, you need to
install the driver on a remote Windows 2000 print server
and disable the Advanced Printing Features.  Then connect
to the printer from your XP client and run the tests.


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Re: [Samba] Experience on using Samba with XP SP2

2004-10-20 Thread Walter Willmertinger
I sent a private Mail to Gerald. I hope it's ok, because the log is also 
as gz file 4 MB!

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Thomas Bork wrote:
| Hallo,
|
|
|We have problems with printing after installing XP SP2.
|In nearly every software it takes about 10 seconds to 30 seconds, if 
you
|click on Print-Button and wait for the print dialogue window.
|Extremly slow are programs like MS Word (30 seconds, when you open a
|document the first time).
|
|
| same problem here. This a known but _unresolved_ problem for
| Samba 3.0.7 and 2.2.12 - you can read about in the mailing
| list archive (read the complete threads):
|
| http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=sambam=109410258903823w=2
| http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=sambam=108006188614178w=2

Unresolved may be a little too strong.  I'm pretty sure the
problem is the XP firewall.  Can you send me a level 10 debug
log with timestamps so I can verify?

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RE: [Samba] Experience on using Samba with XP SP2

2004-10-20 Thread Bill Mann
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I sent a private Mail to Gerald. I hope it's ok, because the log is also 
as gz file 4 MB!

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 Thomas Bork wrote:
 | Hallo,
 |
 |
 |We have problems with printing after installing XP SP2.
 |In nearly every software it takes about 10 seconds to 30 seconds, if 
 you
 |click on Print-Button and wait for the print dialogue window.
 |Extremly slow are programs like MS Word (30 seconds, when you open a
 |document the first time).
 |
 |
 | same problem here. This a known but _unresolved_ problem for
 | Samba 3.0.7 and 2.2.12 - you can read about in the mailing
 | list archive (read the complete threads):
 |
 | http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=sambam=109410258903823w=2
 | http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=sambam=108006188614178w=2

 Unresolved may be a little too strong.  I'm pretty sure the
 problem is the XP firewall.  Can you send me a level 10 debug
 log with timestamps so I can verify?




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Re: [Samba] Experience on using Samba with XP SP2

2004-10-20 Thread rruegner
Hi Walter,
relate to your answers i would say your win drivers arent very 
compatibel to win xp sp2,
have you tried to get the printer directly connected to a win xp serv 
pack2 machine using with the same drivers?
if the buggy behavior stay with lokal conected drivers and printer
you know that you have to wait for better drivers or trying
another setup maybe using ghostscript drivers wih cups and/or raw printing.
Best Regards

Walter Willmertinger schrieb:

rruegner schrieb:
Hi Walter,
i have the same setup samba 3.07 , cups win xp serv pack 2 german.
I have noticed that something changed in behavior after the upgrade to 
win xp serv pack 2 , but non of your described failures are comming
up in my setups for hp laser printers , and canon bjc 2000 as well as 
my pdf printer.
I only noticed after upgrade to serv pack 2 that ich have to refresh
the pinter icon in the taskbar now after printing is done to disapear.
also my standart paper size is now switching to letter and not staying 
to default dina 4.
But i have not upgraded my cups or/and win drivers ( which is allways 
recomended ), i wanted to cotroll this stuff these days but as this 
bugs are not really heavy for me , i will wait until there is time.
I dont think this is really a problem with samba.
Are you using cups?

YES, I think it is cups 1.1.20
How is your smb.conf

very simple: Here the relevant parts:
# Global parameters
[global]
workgroup = CSINTERN
server string = col Samba Server on RedHat
log file = /usr/local/samba/var/log.%m
max log size = 10
deadtime = 60
preferred master = No
domain master = No
ldap ssl = no
printer admin = root, walterw, fritzw, gerhardj
hosts allow = 192.168.1.
[homes]
comment = Home Directories
read only = No
create mask = 0750
[printers]
comment = All Printers
path = /var/spool/samba
printer admin = root, walterw
create mask = 0700
guest ok = Yes
printable = Yes
use client driver = Yes
browseable = No
[print$]
comment = Share fuer Printer Treiber
path = /usr/local/samba/lib/printers
write list = root, walterw, fritzw, gerhardj
[kyocera-ps]
comment = Kopierdrucker mit Duplexfunktion
path = /var/spool/samba
printer admin = root, walterw
read only = No
create mask = 0700
guest ok = Yes
printable = Yes
printer name = KYOCERA
use client driver = Yes
oplocks = No
share modes = No
**

, have you checked cups logs,

nothing special!
do you have the latest printers?

Yes, actual drivers
What are this Printers ( Manufacter )

Kyocera, HP ...
Have disabled the xp firewall

Tried with and without firewall
as well as the webclient services on xp,

tried with enabled and disabled
what are the event logs talking at the win xp?

only on XP startup I get an error message:
you can see in the appended temp.jpg
If you don't see it:
It is a message in sytem part.
Source is MRxSmb
Type is warning
Event number is 3019
Text is: ( if I try to translate): Redirector Service cannot recognize 
the type of connection

Is file sharing running corect with your samba machine?

Yes, no problem, even with MS Access
Is it a stand alone spooler , 

???
do you do accounting, 

nothing setup
are you printing
via a printserver device

yes, network print server, done over CUPS
or direct over lpd/usb

no!
Do you use postscript/ghostscript filters, or direct win drivers?

direct win drivers
All this stuff must be tested and controlled to give you the right 
answer/help...there is no naturally reason why printing with samba
should fail with win xp as far i know

It does not fail, the startup of the print dialogue is just very slow !! 
When removing SP2, the problem has gone!

Best Regards
Walter Willmertinger schrieb:
We have problems with printing after installing XP SP2.
In nearly every software it takes about 10 seconds to 30 seconds, if 
you click on Print-Button and wait for the print dialogue window.
Extremly slow are programs like MS Word (30 seconds, when you open a 
document the first time).

Another problem, (but I am sure it's not a samba related problem): In 
some word documents you have problems viewing embedded graphics. 
Sometimes you see the graphics, sometimes not. It is not a problem 
with wrong settings (View - Use placeholders for Graphics). In 
preview there is no graphics, maybe after some scrolling the graphics 
appear, on the printout graphics are contained.

Samba installed is 3.0.7 (compiled on RH 9.0 with standard options)!
Regards, Walter
rruegner schrieb:
CHAN YICK WAI schrieb:
Just would like to ask if anyone has experience with Samba with XP 
SP2, can
you share with us?

Thanks,
Yw
Hi, for sure we share : it works
read the samba faqs for more info, and/or give us more detailed 
questions
Regards





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Re: [Samba] Experience on using Samba with XP SP2

2004-10-20 Thread Walter Willmertinger

rruegner schrieb:
Hi Walter,
relate to your answers i would say your win drivers arent very 
compatibel to win xp sp2,
have you tried to get the printer directly connected to a win xp serv 
pack2 machine using with the same drivers?
the driver I use is the newest driver of kyocera. But anyway, maybe 
there is the problem.
If I change the default printer to another printer, as an HP Laserjet 6L 
with MS windows driver, the dialogue comes much more quickly (5 
seconds). With the Kyocera-Mitas KM-2030 as standard printer, it takes 
17 seconds to get the dialogue.

if the buggy behavior stay with lokal conected drivers and printer
you know that you have to wait for better drivers or trying
another setup maybe using ghostscript drivers wih cups and/or raw 
printing.
Best Regards

Walter Willmertinger schrieb:

rruegner schrieb:
Hi Walter,
i have the same setup samba 3.07 , cups win xp serv pack 2 german.
I have noticed that something changed in behavior after the upgrade 
to win xp serv pack 2 , but non of your described failures are comming
up in my setups for hp laser printers , and canon bjc 2000 as well 
as my pdf printer.
I only noticed after upgrade to serv pack 2 that ich have to refresh
the pinter icon in the taskbar now after printing is done to disapear.
also my standart paper size is now switching to letter and not 
staying to default dina 4.
But i have not upgraded my cups or/and win drivers ( which is 
allways recomended ), i wanted to cotroll this stuff these days but 
as this bugs are not really heavy for me , i will wait until there 
is time.
I dont think this is really a problem with samba.
Are you using cups?

YES, I think it is cups 1.1.20
How is your smb.conf

very simple: Here the relevant parts:
# Global parameters
[global]
workgroup = CSINTERN
server string = col Samba Server on RedHat
log file = /usr/local/samba/var/log.%m
max log size = 10
deadtime = 60
preferred master = No
domain master = No
ldap ssl = no
printer admin = root, walterw, fritzw, gerhardj
hosts allow = 192.168.1.
[homes]
comment = Home Directories
read only = No
create mask = 0750
[printers]
comment = All Printers
path = /var/spool/samba
printer admin = root, walterw
create mask = 0700
guest ok = Yes
printable = Yes
use client driver = Yes
browseable = No
[print$]
comment = Share fuer Printer Treiber
path = /usr/local/samba/lib/printers
write list = root, walterw, fritzw, gerhardj
[kyocera-ps]
comment = Kopierdrucker mit Duplexfunktion
path = /var/spool/samba
printer admin = root, walterw
read only = No
create mask = 0700
guest ok = Yes
printable = Yes
printer name = KYOCERA
use client driver = Yes
oplocks = No
share modes = No
**

, have you checked cups logs,

nothing special!
do you have the latest printers?

Yes, actual drivers
What are this Printers ( Manufacter )

Kyocera, HP ...
Have disabled the xp firewall

Tried with and without firewall
as well as the webclient services on xp,

tried with enabled and disabled
what are the event logs talking at the win xp?

only on XP startup I get an error message:
you can see in the appended temp.jpg
If you don't see it:
It is a message in sytem part.
Source is MRxSmb
Type is warning
Event number is 3019
Text is: ( if I try to translate): Redirector Service cannot 
recognize the type of connection

Is file sharing running corect with your samba machine?

Yes, no problem, even with MS Access
Is it a stand alone spooler , 

???
do you do accounting, 

nothing setup
are you printing
via a printserver device

yes, network print server, done over CUPS
or direct over lpd/usb

no!
Do you use postscript/ghostscript filters, or direct win drivers?

direct win drivers
All this stuff must be tested and controlled to give you the right 
answer/help...there is no naturally reason why printing with samba
should fail with win xp as far i know

It does not fail, the startup of the print dialogue is just very slow 
!! When removing SP2, the problem has gone!

Best Regards
Walter Willmertinger schrieb:
We have problems with printing after installing XP SP2.
In nearly every software it takes about 10 seconds to 30 seconds, 
if you click on Print-Button and wait for the print dialogue window.
Extremly slow are programs like MS Word (30 seconds, when you open 
a document the first time).

Another problem, (but I am sure it's not a samba related problem): 
In some word documents you have problems viewing embedded graphics. 
Sometimes you see the graphics, sometimes not. It is not a problem 
with wrong settings (View - Use placeholders for Graphics). In 
preview there is no graphics, maybe after some scrolling the 
graphics appear, on the printout graphics are contained.

Samba installed is 3.0.7 (compiled on RH 9.0 with standard options)!
Regards, Walter
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Re: [Samba] Experience on using Samba with XP SP2

2004-10-20 Thread Gerald (Jerry) Carter
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Walter Willmertinger wrote:
|
|
| rruegner schrieb:
|
| Hi Walter,
| relate to your answers i would say your win drivers arent very
| compatibel to win xp sp2,
| have you tried to get the printer directly connected to a win xp serv
| pack2 machine using with the same drivers?
|
|
| the driver I use is the newest driver of kyocera. But anyway, maybe
| there is the problem.
| If I change the default printer to another printer, as an HP Laserjet 6L
| with MS windows driver, the dialogue comes much more quickly (5
| seconds). With the Kyocera-Mitas KM-2030 as standard printer, it takes
| 17 seconds to get the dialogue.
Could not be a bug just a chatty driver then.  The HP Laserjet
8150 PCL 6 driver is a lot like this as well.


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Re: [Samba] Experience on using Samba with XP SP2

2004-10-19 Thread Walter Willmertinger

rruegner schrieb:
Hi Walter,
i have the same setup samba 3.07 , cups win xp serv pack 2 german.
I have noticed that something changed in behavior after the upgrade to 
win xp serv pack 2 , but non of your described failures are comming
up in my setups for hp laser printers , and canon bjc 2000 as well as 
my pdf printer.
I only noticed after upgrade to serv pack 2 that ich have to refresh
the pinter icon in the taskbar now after printing is done to disapear.
also my standart paper size is now switching to letter and not staying 
to default dina 4.
But i have not upgraded my cups or/and win drivers ( which is allways 
recomended ), i wanted to cotroll this stuff these days but as this 
bugs are not really heavy for me , i will wait until there is time.
I dont think this is really a problem with samba.
Are you using cups?
YES, I think it is cups 1.1.20
How is your smb.conf
very simple: Here the relevant parts:
# Global parameters
[global]
workgroup = CSINTERN
server string = col Samba Server on RedHat
log file = /usr/local/samba/var/log.%m
max log size = 10
deadtime = 60
preferred master = No
domain master = No
ldap ssl = no
printer admin = root, walterw, fritzw, gerhardj
hosts allow = 192.168.1.
[homes]
comment = Home Directories
read only = No
create mask = 0750
[printers]
comment = All Printers
path = /var/spool/samba
printer admin = root, walterw
create mask = 0700
guest ok = Yes
printable = Yes
use client driver = Yes
browseable = No
[print$]
comment = Share fuer Printer Treiber
path = /usr/local/samba/lib/printers
write list = root, walterw, fritzw, gerhardj
[kyocera-ps]
comment = Kopierdrucker mit Duplexfunktion
path = /var/spool/samba
printer admin = root, walterw
read only = No
create mask = 0700
guest ok = Yes
printable = Yes
printer name = KYOCERA
use client driver = Yes
oplocks = No
share modes = No
**

, have you checked cups logs,
nothing special!
do you have the latest printers?
Yes, actual drivers
What are this Printers ( Manufacter )
Kyocera, HP ...
Have disabled the xp firewall
Tried with and without firewall
as well as the webclient services on xp,
tried with enabled and disabled
what are the event logs talking at the win xp?
only on XP startup I get an error message:
you can see in the appended temp.gif
If you don't see it:
It is a message in sytem part.
Source is MRxSmb
Type is warning
Event number is 3019
Text is: ( if I try to translate): Redirector Service cannot recognize
the type of connection
Is file sharing running corect with your samba machine?
Yes, no problem, even with MS Access
Is it a stand alone spooler , 
???
do you do accounting, 
nothing setup
are you printing
via a printserver device
yes, network print server, done over CUPS
or direct over lpd/usb
no!
Do you use postscript/ghostscript filters, or direct win drivers?
direct win drivers
All this stuff must be tested and controlled to give you the right 
answer/help...there is no naturally reason why printing with samba
should fail with win xp as far i know
It does not fail, the startup of the print dialogue is just very slow !!
When removing SP2, the problem has gone!
Best Regards
Walter Willmertinger schrieb:
We have problems with printing after installing XP SP2.
In nearly every software it takes about 10 seconds to 30 seconds, if 
you click on Print-Button and wait for the print dialogue window.
Extremly slow are programs like MS Word (30 seconds, when you open a 
document the first time).

Another problem, (but I am sure it's not a samba related problem): In 
some word documents you have problems viewing embedded graphics. 
Sometimes you see the graphics, sometimes not. It is not a problem 
with wrong settings (View - Use placeholders for Graphics). In 
preview there is no graphics, maybe after some scrolling the graphics 
appear, on the printout graphics are contained.

Samba installed is 3.0.7 (compiled on RH 9.0 with standard options)!
Regards, Walter
rruegner schrieb:
CHAN YICK WAI schrieb:
Just would like to ask if anyone has experience with Samba with XP 
SP2, can
you share with us?

Thanks,
Yw
Hi, for sure we share : it works
read the samba faqs for more info, and/or give us more detailed 
questions
Regards



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Re: [Samba] Experience on using Samba with XP SP2

2004-10-19 Thread Gerald (Jerry) Carter
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Thomas Bork wrote:
| Hallo,
|
|
|We have problems with printing after installing XP SP2.
|In nearly every software it takes about 10 seconds to 30 seconds, if you
|click on Print-Button and wait for the print dialogue window.
|Extremly slow are programs like MS Word (30 seconds, when you open a
|document the first time).
|
|
| same problem here. This a known but _unresolved_ problem for
| Samba 3.0.7 and 2.2.12 - you can read about in the mailing
| list archive (read the complete threads):
|
| http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=sambam=109410258903823w=2
| http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=sambam=108006188614178w=2
Unresolved may be a little too strong.  I'm pretty sure the
problem is the XP firewall.  Can you send me a level 10 debug
log with timestamps so I can verify?

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Re: [Samba] Experience on using Samba with XP SP2

2004-10-19 Thread Thomas Bork
Gerald (Jerry) Carter schrieb:
|We have problems with printing after installing XP SP2.
|In nearly every software it takes about 10 seconds to 30 seconds, if you
|click on Print-Button and wait for the print dialogue window.
|Extremly slow are programs like MS Word (30 seconds, when you open a
|document the first time).
|
|
| same problem here. This a known but _unresolved_ problem for
| Samba 3.0.7 and 2.2.12 - you can read about in the mailing
| list archive (read the complete threads):
|
| http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=sambam=109410258903823w=2
| http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=sambam=108006188614178w=2
Unresolved may be a little too strong.
tried to verify with my own setup - can not reproduce it with or without 
xp firewall :(

 I'm pretty sure the
 problem is the XP firewall.  Can you send me a level 10 debug
 log with timestamps so I can verify?
But we have some users with this problem, level 10 debug log is pending 
(Samba 2.2.12).
With level 3 there only were these messages in the log:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=sambam=109421179803704w=2
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Re: [Samba] Experience on using Samba with XP SP2

2004-10-18 Thread Walter Willmertinger
We have problems with printing after installing XP SP2.
In nearly every software it takes about 10 seconds to 30 seconds, if you 
click on Print-Button and wait for the print dialogue window.
Extremly slow are programs like MS Word (30 seconds, when you open a 
document the first time).

Another problem, (but I am sure it's not a samba related problem): In 
some word documents you have problems viewing embedded graphics. 
Sometimes you see the graphics, sometimes not. It is not a problem with 
wrong settings (View - Use placeholders for Graphics). In preview there 
is no graphics, maybe after some scrolling the graphics appear, on the 
printout graphics are contained.

Samba installed is 3.0.7 (compiled on RH 9.0 with standard options)!
Regards, Walter
rruegner schrieb:
CHAN YICK WAI schrieb:
Just would like to ask if anyone has experience with Samba with XP 
SP2, can
you share with us?

Thanks,
Yw
Hi, for sure we share : it works
read the samba faqs for more info, and/or give us more detailed questions
Regards

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Re: [Samba] Experience on using Samba with XP SP2

2004-10-18 Thread Thomas Bork
Hallo,

 We have problems with printing after installing XP SP2.
 In nearly every software it takes about 10 seconds to 30 seconds, if you 
 click on Print-Button and wait for the print dialogue window.
 Extremly slow are programs like MS Word (30 seconds, when you open a 
 document the first time).

same problem here. This a known but _unresolved_ problem for Samba 3.0.7 and 2.2.12 - 
you can read about in the mailing list archive (read the complete threads):

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=sambam=109410258903823w=2
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=sambam=108006188614178w=2

Excerpt:
#

| Yes, but I was hoping for some way in Samba to make
| it timeout faster when it cannot connect back.
|
| Or some way to have 'disable spoolss' not stop downloading
| of drivers as this was still possible in the old days.

XP sp2 seems to be forcing the issue.  We'll have to code
a way to turn off the change notify functionality somehow.





cheers, jerry

#

It would be very nice, if the actual Samba versions 2.2.12/3.0.7 were not so painfully 
slow in printing with XP SP2 or XP SP1 with active XP-firewall. It's a real pain in 
the ass in production environments :(

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Re: [Samba] Experience on using Samba with XP SP2

2004-10-18 Thread rruegner
Hi Walter,
i have the same setup samba 3.07 , cups win xp serv pack 2 german.
I have noticed that something changed in behavior after the upgrade to 
win xp serv pack 2 , but non of your described failures are comming
up in my setups for hp laser printers , and canon bjc 2000 as well as my 
pdf printer.
I only noticed after upgrade to serv pack 2 that ich have to refresh
the pinter icon in the taskbar now after printing is done to disapear.
also my standart paper size is now switching to letter and not staying 
to default dina 4.
But i have not upgraded my cups or/and win drivers ( which is allways 
recomended ), i wanted to cotroll this stuff these days but as this bugs 
are not really heavy for me , i will wait until there is time.
I dont think this is really a problem with samba.
Are you using cups?
How is your smb.conf, have you checked cups logs,
do you have the latest printers?
What are this Printers ( Manufacter )
Have disabled the xp firewall as well as the webclient services on xp,
what are the event logs talking at the win xp?
Is file sharing running corect with your samba machine?
Is it a stand alone spooler , do you do accounting, are you printing
via a printserver device or direct over lpd/usb
Do you use postscript/ghostscript filters, or direct win drivers?
All this stuff must be tested and controlled to give you the right 
answer/help...there is no naturally reason why printing with samba
should fail with win xp as far i know
Best Regards
Walter Willmertinger schrieb:
We have problems with printing after installing XP SP2.
In nearly every software it takes about 10 seconds to 30 seconds, if you 
click on Print-Button and wait for the print dialogue window.
Extremly slow are programs like MS Word (30 seconds, when you open a 
document the first time).

Another problem, (but I am sure it's not a samba related problem): In 
some word documents you have problems viewing embedded graphics. 
Sometimes you see the graphics, sometimes not. It is not a problem with 
wrong settings (View - Use placeholders for Graphics). In preview there 
is no graphics, maybe after some scrolling the graphics appear, on the 
printout graphics are contained.

Samba installed is 3.0.7 (compiled on RH 9.0 with standard options)!
Regards, Walter
rruegner schrieb:
CHAN YICK WAI schrieb:
Just would like to ask if anyone has experience with Samba with XP 
SP2, can
you share with us?

Thanks,
Yw
Hi, for sure we share : it works
read the samba faqs for more info, and/or give us more detailed questions
Regards


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Re: [Samba] Experience on using Samba with XP SP2

2004-10-16 Thread rruegner
CHAN YICK WAI schrieb:
Just would like to ask if anyone has experience with Samba with XP SP2, can
you share with us?
Thanks,
Yw
Hi, for sure we share : it works
read the samba faqs for more info, and/or give us more detailed questions
Regards
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