Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed]
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 06:36:30AM -0700, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: > Jeremy, All, > > I truly appreciate your willingness to help me work on this further. > Unfortunately, we have simply run out of time. > > To make matters worse, I cannot provide traces, logs, etc because this > is a classified government system that cannot be exposed in any way, > which means rather difficult and sometimes problematic troubleshooting > limitations that may keep this problem from being solved. However, this > error is found all over the internet and rarely do you ever see a fix > for it. When I have seen one, it's not a fix that works for me. > > To make matters worse, Microsoft stamped a "Microsoft has confirmed this > to be a problem with the products specified" on WinXP and Samba. > Microsoft has no fix, they have tried many times before, and as it now > stands, appears to be disinterested in providing a hot fix due to the > remaining shelf life of XP. Any support you get form Microsoft on this > particular issue is what they call a "best effort", and do not guarantee > a fix like they do with their own products. > > For anyone that wants to play around with this, here's the config: > > All static IPs > Workgroup only, no domain > Solaris with Samba loaded, a few shares, enabled as WINS server, > configured as Master Browser > No DNS server > XP has WINS setting pointing at Samba box, hosts file used instead of > DNS, lmjosts file NTO in use because of WINS on Samba, XP's Computer > Browser service disabled to force XP to see Samba box as master browser > (otherwise will elect itself as master browser and totally ignore Samba) My feeling is it's the disabling of the browser service that is the problem. WinXP doesn't ignore Samba browse priorities - set correctly Samba will always win browse elections. I'd like to investigate this more but have other priorities to look at. I'm pretty sure given access to your site I could get it up and running though, I use to solve browsing problems like this as a kind of mental relaxation hobby :-). Not much I can do without logs or packet traces though. I understand you're a secure site so that's not possible. Shame though :-). Cheers, Jeremy. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly[Closed]
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 08:48:23AM -0700, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: > Nope - didn't fix it. Same error. > > But an excellent suggestion though, thanks. Probably you can't publish them, but have you tried to analyze a network trace from the Windows client taken by wireshark on the client? If you can reproduce the problem in a fresh install far away from your production network, you might be able to send us the traces. (not sure if this is remotely realistic) Do you have any custom patches in your Samba? And -- skimming over the thread I missed the Samba version information. I see you're using it on Solaris. Is this self-compiled or the SUN-provided version? With best regards, Volker Lendecke -- SerNet GmbH, Bahnhofsallee 1b, 37081 Göttingen phone: +49-551-37-0, fax: +49-551-37-9 AG Göttingen, HRB 2816, GF: Dr. Johannes Loxen -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly[Closed]
Nope - didn't fix it. Same error. But an excellent suggestion though, thanks. Bob -Original Message- From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Hodges,Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 8:39 AM To: Chris Smith Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly[Closed] Could be. I'm trying it now just out of curiosity. Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and this will be a fix. :-) -Original Message- From: Chris Smith [mailto:smb...@chrissmith.org] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 8:25 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed] On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: > A key item I have to keep remembering is that all of this works great in > Windows 2000. It's only XP that's having the problem. Don't know if I would put so much weight on that - a difference, yes, but not a key item. XP may just be more finicky when it comes to things like proper naming conventions. I haven't run a Samba-2.x installation in years but I have at one time or another had Samba working successfully with everything from the workgroup add-on for MS-DOS to Windows 7. Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed]
Could be. I'm trying it now just out of curiosity. Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and this will be a fix. :-) -Original Message- From: Chris Smith [mailto:smb...@chrissmith.org] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 8:25 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed] On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: > A key item I have to keep remembering is that all of this works great in > Windows 2000. It's only XP that's having the problem. Don't know if I would put so much weight on that - a difference, yes, but not a key item. XP may just be more finicky when it comes to things like proper naming conventions. I haven't run a Samba-2.x installation in years but I have at one time or another had Samba working successfully with everything from the workgroup add-on for MS-DOS to Windows 7. Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed]
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: > A key item I have to keep remembering is that all of this works great in > Windows 2000. It's only XP that's having the problem. Don't know if I would put so much weight on that - a difference, yes, but not a key item. XP may just be more finicky when it comes to things like proper naming conventions. I haven't run a Samba-2.x installation in years but I have at one time or another had Samba working successfully with everything from the workgroup add-on for MS-DOS to Windows 7. Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed]
No, I didn't. Nor can I because of the impact it would have on a number of different issues that are unchangeable/written in stone. A key item I have to keep remembering is that all of this works great in Windows 2000. It's only XP that's having the problem. Bob -Original Message- From: Chris Smith [mailto:smb...@chrissmith.org] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 8:13 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: Jeremy Allison; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed] On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: > Workgroup only, no domain > Solaris with Samba loaded, a few shares, enabled as WINS server, > configured as Master Browser Did you ever correct the underscore in the hostname issue and then test? Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed]
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: > Workgroup only, no domain > Solaris with Samba loaded, a few shares, enabled as WINS server, > configured as Master Browser Did you ever correct the underscore in the hostname issue and then test? Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed]
You bet. http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AsEw2kKriectewf3wTL9r42bvZx4?p=Windows+XP+%2B+Samba+%2B+%22The+specified+network+name+is+no+longer+available%22&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-312 Bob -Original Message- From: Ryan Novosielski [mailto:novos...@umdnj.edu] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:28 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC; Jeremy Allison Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed] Might you be able to provide a couple of links to other places you've seen this on the internet (or sample search terms)? Perhaps one has some of the information that could be used to look into the problem further, or something that could be used to triangulate the problem. Would be neat to get it nailed down one way or another. -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Jan 3, 2011 8:36, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: Jeremy, All, I truly appreciate your willingness to help me work on this further. Unfortunately, we have simply run out of time. To make matters worse, I cannot provide traces, logs, etc because this is a classified government system that cannot be exposed in any way, which means rather difficult and sometimes problematic troubleshooting limitations that may keep this problem from being solved. However, this error is found all over the internet and rarely do you ever see a fix for it. When I have seen one, it's not a fix that works for me. To make matters worse, Microsoft stamped a "Microsoft has confirmed this to be a problem with the products specified" on WinXP and Samba. Microsoft has no fix, they have tried many times before, and as it now stands, appears to be disinterested in providing a hot fix due to the remaining shelf life of XP. Any support you get form Microsoft on this particular issue is what they call a "best effort", and do not guarantee a fix like they do with their own products. For anyone that wants to play around with this, here's the config: All static IPs Workgroup only, no domain Solaris with Samba loaded, a few shares, enabled as WINS server, configured as Master Browser No DNS server XP has WINS setting pointing at Samba box, hosts file used instead of DNS, lmjosts file NTO in use because of WINS on Samba, XP's Computer Browser service disabled to force XP to see Samba box as master browser (otherwise will elect itself as master browser and totally ignore Samba) Behavior: WinXP can map to any resource on Samba with zero problems - it is not a permissions issue. Attempting to browse to a Samba resource, however, produces "The specified network name is no longer available" in XP. If Computer Browser service enabled on XP, XP may or may not be able to browse to Samba box (this is entirely unstable, because within 15 minutes, if XP has elected itself as master browser, XP will eventually time out and lose the server list, and "Specified network no longer available" error returns). Never, is WinXP able to retrieve the browse list from Samba. Microsoft claims that this is because the network configuration is too simplified and because real WINS and DNS servers are not in use. All we're trying to do is get one stinkin' XP workstation to talk to one stinkin' Samba box in a simple workgroup. That's it. So far, it's got everyone that looks at this problem absolutely baffled as to how this could not work. Those who have looked at it and given up: Microsoft US Air Force US Marine Corps Various private military contractors Samba email list group (best support so far, but still no dice) Again, thanks to all who have tried figuring this out. I know I haven't given you much to work with, so don't feel bad. It's just that I have simply run out of time to get this resolved. Bob -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allison [mailto:j...@samba.org] Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:04 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: samba Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed] On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:29:53PM -0700, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: > Well, here's what's happening. > > Microsoft Tech Support confirms that this is a problem with Windows XP. > There is no fix, and I don't expect one coming considering XP's end of > life in 2012. All Microsoft has are workarounds. Don't throw in the towel just yet. I've never seen a WindowsXP box that won't work with Samba, we just need more info. > Microsoft's recommendations are to add more servers to the mix (DNS, > WINS, etc) and if that doesn't work, then one of their several > "workarounds" is to dump the use of Samba altogether. None of the > p
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed]
Might you be able to provide a couple of links to other places you've seen this on the internet (or sample search terms)? Perhaps one has some of the information that could be used to look into the problem further, or something that could be used to triangulate the problem. Would be neat to get it nailed down one way or another. -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Jan 3, 2011 8:36, Hodges,Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC <robert.hodges@hill.af.mil> wrote: Jeremy, All, I truly appreciate your willingness to help me work on this further. Unfortunately, we have simply run out of time. To make matters worse, I cannot provide traces, logs, etc because this is a classified government system that cannot be exposed in any way, which means rather difficult and sometimes problematic troubleshooting limitations that may keep this problem from being solved. However, this error is found all over the internet and rarely do you ever see a fix for it. When I have seen one, it's not a fix that works for me. To make matters worse, Microsoft stamped a "Microsoft has confirmed this to be a problem with the products specified" on WinXP and Samba. Microsoft has no fix, they have tried many times before, and as it now stands, appears to be disinterested in providing a hot fix due to the remaining shelf life of XP. Any support you get form Microsoft on this particular issue is what they call a "best effort", and do not guarantee a fix like they do with their own products. For anyone that wants to play around with this, here's the config: All static IPs Workgroup only, no domain Solaris with Samba loaded, a few shares, enabled as WINS server, configured as Master Browser No DNS server XP has WINS setting pointing at Samba box, hosts file used instead of DNS, lmjosts file NTO in use because of WINS on Samba, XP's Computer Browser service disabled to force XP to see Samba box as master browser (otherwise will elect itself as master browser and totally ignore Samba) Behavior: WinXP can map to any resource on Samba with zero problems - it is not a permissions issue. Attempting to browse to a Samba resource, however, produces "The specified network name is no longer available" in XP. If Computer Browser service enabled on XP, XP may or may not be able to browse to Samba box (this is entirely unstable, because within 15 minutes, if XP has elected itself as master browser, XP will eventually time out and lose the server list, and "Specified network no longer available" error returns). Never, is WinXP able to retrieve the browse list from Samba. Microsoft claims that this is because the network configuration is too simplified and because real WINS and DNS servers are not in use. All we're trying to do is get one stinkin' XP workstation to talk to one stinkin' Samba box in a simple workgroup. That's it. So far, it's got everyone that looks at this problem absolutely baffled as to how this could not work. Those who have looked at it and given up: Microsoft US Air Force US Marine Corps Various private military contractors Samba email list group (best support so far, but still no dice) Again, thanks to all who have tried figuring this out. I know I haven't given you much to work with, so don't feel bad. It's just that I have simply run out of time to get this resolved. Bob -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allison [mailto:j...@samba.org] Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:04 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: samba Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed] On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:29:53PM -0700, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: > Well, here's what's happening. > > Microsoft Tech Support confirms that this is a problem with Windows XP. > There is no fix, and I don't expect one coming considering XP's end of > life in 2012. All Microsoft has are workarounds. Don't throw in the towel just yet. I've never seen a WindowsXP box that won't work with Samba, we just need more info. > Microsoft's recommendations are to add more servers to the mix (DNS, > WINS, etc) and if that doesn't work, then one of their several > "workarounds" is to dump the use of Samba altogether. None of the > proposed workarounds work for us, we're locked into a specific > configuration. > > So both Microsoft and my shop are throwing in the towel on this one and > we're resorting to simply mapping to all the shares instead of having > users browse to them. Sounds simple, but this represents a huge config > and documentation change on many levels for us, a lot bigger than anyone > could know. A very frustrating and expensive workaroun
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed]
Jeremy, All, I truly appreciate your willingness to help me work on this further. Unfortunately, we have simply run out of time. To make matters worse, I cannot provide traces, logs, etc because this is a classified government system that cannot be exposed in any way, which means rather difficult and sometimes problematic troubleshooting limitations that may keep this problem from being solved. However, this error is found all over the internet and rarely do you ever see a fix for it. When I have seen one, it's not a fix that works for me. To make matters worse, Microsoft stamped a "Microsoft has confirmed this to be a problem with the products specified" on WinXP and Samba. Microsoft has no fix, they have tried many times before, and as it now stands, appears to be disinterested in providing a hot fix due to the remaining shelf life of XP. Any support you get form Microsoft on this particular issue is what they call a "best effort", and do not guarantee a fix like they do with their own products. For anyone that wants to play around with this, here's the config: All static IPs Workgroup only, no domain Solaris with Samba loaded, a few shares, enabled as WINS server, configured as Master Browser No DNS server XP has WINS setting pointing at Samba box, hosts file used instead of DNS, lmjosts file NTO in use because of WINS on Samba, XP's Computer Browser service disabled to force XP to see Samba box as master browser (otherwise will elect itself as master browser and totally ignore Samba) Behavior: WinXP can map to any resource on Samba with zero problems - it is not a permissions issue. Attempting to browse to a Samba resource, however, produces "The specified network name is no longer available" in XP. If Computer Browser service enabled on XP, XP may or may not be able to browse to Samba box (this is entirely unstable, because within 15 minutes, if XP has elected itself as master browser, XP will eventually time out and lose the server list, and "Specified network no longer available" error returns). Never, is WinXP able to retrieve the browse list from Samba. Microsoft claims that this is because the network configuration is too simplified and because real WINS and DNS servers are not in use. All we're trying to do is get one stinkin' XP workstation to talk to one stinkin' Samba box in a simple workgroup. That's it. So far, it's got everyone that looks at this problem absolutely baffled as to how this could not work. Those who have looked at it and given up: Microsoft US Air Force US Marine Corps Various private military contractors Samba email list group (best support so far, but still no dice) Again, thanks to all who have tried figuring this out. I know I haven't given you much to work with, so don't feel bad. It's just that I have simply run out of time to get this resolved. Bob -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allison [mailto:j...@samba.org] Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:04 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: samba Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed] On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:29:53PM -0700, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: > Well, here's what's happening. > > Microsoft Tech Support confirms that this is a problem with Windows XP. > There is no fix, and I don't expect one coming considering XP's end of > life in 2012. All Microsoft has are workarounds. Don't throw in the towel just yet. I've never seen a WindowsXP box that won't work with Samba, we just need more info. > Microsoft's recommendations are to add more servers to the mix (DNS, > WINS, etc) and if that doesn't work, then one of their several > "workarounds" is to dump the use of Samba altogether. None of the > proposed workarounds work for us, we're locked into a specific > configuration. > > So both Microsoft and my shop are throwing in the towel on this one and > we're resorting to simply mapping to all the shares instead of having > users browse to them. Sounds simple, but this represents a huge config > and documentation change on many levels for us, a lot bigger than anyone > could know. A very frustrating and expensive workaround if you knew the > scope. Don't do this yet. I haven't seen any debug logs from you, or a network trace. Changing your config without proper investigation is completely premature IMHO. > This decision to pull the plug was made after I came across an online > forum where someone had this very same issue, worked with Microsoft Tech > Support for 7 months(!), and it never got resolved. We have been networking Windowx XP boxes to Samba for longer than anyone still working in Microsoft Tech support, trust me on that :-). So I'd still like to fix thi
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed]
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Jeremy Allison wrote: > We have been networking Windowx XP boxes to Samba > for longer than anyone still working in Microsoft > Tech support, trust me on that :-). Cute :) -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed]
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:29:53PM -0700, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: > Well, here's what's happening. > > Microsoft Tech Support confirms that this is a problem with Windows XP. > There is no fix, and I don't expect one coming considering XP's end of > life in 2012. All Microsoft has are workarounds. Don't throw in the towel just yet. I've never seen a WindowsXP box that won't work with Samba, we just need more info. > Microsoft's recommendations are to add more servers to the mix (DNS, > WINS, etc) and if that doesn't work, then one of their several > "workarounds" is to dump the use of Samba altogether. None of the > proposed workarounds work for us, we're locked into a specific > configuration. > > So both Microsoft and my shop are throwing in the towel on this one and > we're resorting to simply mapping to all the shares instead of having > users browse to them. Sounds simple, but this represents a huge config > and documentation change on many levels for us, a lot bigger than anyone > could know. A very frustrating and expensive workaround if you knew the > scope. Don't do this yet. I haven't seen any debug logs from you, or a network trace. Changing your config without proper investigation is completely premature IMHO. > This decision to pull the plug was made after I came across an online > forum where someone had this very same issue, worked with Microsoft Tech > Support for 7 months(!), and it never got resolved. We have been networking Windowx XP boxes to Samba for longer than anyone still working in Microsoft Tech support, trust me on that :-). So I'd still like to fix this properly. > So, it sucks to be me. Please get the network trace and debug level 10 log of the Windows XP box trying to connect to Samba, this should give us the information we need to fix it. Jeremy. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly[Closed]
Unfortunately we're not able to install more software of radically change any configurations. We also do not use LDAP (just a workgroup, hosts file, static IPs and Samba). But those are good ideas, I'll keep them in mind just in case. Major thanks. :-) Bob -Original Message- From: t...@tms3.com [mailto:t...@tms3.com] Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 12:45 PM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly[Closed] So both Microsoft and my shop are throwing in the towel on this one and we're resorting to simply mapping to all the shares instead of having users browse to them. Sounds simple, but this represents a huge config and documentation change on many levels for us, a lot bigger than anyone could know. Some ideas: 1. Webpage on intranet web server with a list of available shares. With Internut Exploder, the links will open as a drive folder. 2. MSDFS. Use the home path in ldap (etc.) to map homes through an MSDFS share. Nest all available shares in the MSDFS zone. You could even have several MSDFS shares with different available shares for different groups. In either case the changes are global and user friendly. Happy New Year A very frustrating and expensive workaround if you knew the scope. This decision to pull the plug was made after I came across an online forum where someone had this very same issue, worked with Microsoft Tech Support for 7 months(!), and it never got resolved. So, it sucks to be me. You folks are AWESOME, and came up with much better ideas that Microsoft did, but still to no avail. You all have my unwavering respect and thanks, and I really mean it. - Bob -Original Message- From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Novosielski Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:45 AM To: samba Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There is a directive used to include other config files. I do not recall what it is, but I do recall it being in the manual for smb.conf. ;) Please keep replies on-list. Thanks. On 12/29/2010 02:19 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: Good tip, thanks. How to I make use of this "smb.conf.%m" option? Bob -Original Message- From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Novosielski Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:33 AM To: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly You can set the logs to level 10 using the params in the manual for smb.conf. Also a neat trick, though, is to include the config file "smb.conf.%m", which may or may not exist for all machine names, and include the debug parameter in there. This allows you to add the log level 10 for only the client(s) you want so as not to waste disk space on a busy machine. =R On 12/29/2010 01:10 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: Jeremy, This makes sense, I'll try it. Excellent idea. I'm new to Samba, so how do I get it to run in debug mode and do the logging option you mentioned? Sorry to sound so juvenile, my experience with Samba is in reverse - getting Linux boxes to use Windows servers. Bob -Original Message- From: Jeremy Allison [mailto:j...@samba.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 10:33 AM To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC Cc: t...@tms3.com; samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly On Wed, Dec 29, 2010
Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly [Closed]
Well, here's what's happening. Microsoft Tech Support confirms that this is a problem with Windows XP. There is no fix, and I don't expect one coming considering XP's end of life in 2012. All Microsoft has are workarounds. Microsoft's recommendations are to add more servers to the mix (DNS, WINS, etc) and if that doesn't work, then one of their several "workarounds" is to dump the use of Samba altogether. None of the proposed workarounds work for us, we're locked into a specific configuration. So both Microsoft and my shop are throwing in the towel on this one and we're resorting to simply mapping to all the shares instead of having users browse to them. Sounds simple, but this represents a huge config and documentation change on many levels for us, a lot bigger than anyone could know. A very frustrating and expensive workaround if you knew the scope. This decision to pull the plug was made after I came across an online forum where someone had this very same issue, worked with Microsoft Tech Support for 7 months(!), and it never got resolved. So, it sucks to be me. You folks are AWESOME, and came up with much better ideas that Microsoft did, but still to no avail. You all have my unwavering respect and thanks, and I really mean it. - Bob -Original Message- From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Novosielski Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:45 AM To: samba Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba Properly -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There is a directive used to include other config files. I do not recall what it is, but I do recall it being in the manual for smb.conf. ;) Please keep replies on-list. Thanks. On 12/29/2010 02:19 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: > Good tip, thanks. How to I make use of this "smb.conf.%m" option? > > Bob > > -Original Message- > From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org > [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Novosielski > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:33 AM > To: samba@lists.samba.org > Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba > Properly > > You can set the logs to level 10 using the params in the manual for > smb.conf. Also a neat trick, though, is to include the config file > "smb.conf.%m", which may or may not exist for all machine names, and > include the debug parameter in there. This allows you to add the log > level 10 for only the client(s) you want so as not to waste disk space > on a busy machine. > > =R > > On 12/29/2010 01:10 PM, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC > wrote: >> Jeremy, > >> This makes sense, I'll try it. Excellent idea. > >> I'm new to Samba, so how do I get it to run in debug mode and do the >> logging option you mentioned? > >> Sorry to sound so juvenile, my experience with Samba is in reverse - >> getting Linux boxes to use Windows servers. > >> Bob > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Jeremy Allison [mailto:j...@samba.org] >> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 10:33 AM >> To: Hodges, Robert CTR USAF AFMC 520 SMXS/MXDEC >> Cc: t...@tms3.com; samba@lists.samba.org >> Subject: Re: [Samba] Need Help Getting Windows XP To Use Samba >> Properly > >> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:22:46AM -0700, Hodges, Robert CTR USAF >> AFMC > >> 520 SMXS/MXDEC wrote: >>> TMS3, >>> >>> Thanks for joining in, really appreciate it. >>> >>> I'm trying to keep it all straight, I'm relatively new to Samba (but >> learning quickly). >>> >>> What I now know: >>> >>> 1. Sniffer on XP box reveals that XP does see the broadcasts from >> Samba. >>> >>> 2. The Microsoft support tool/command "Browstat status" shows that >>> XP >> does recognize Samba as the server (if Computer Browser service >> disabled, otherwise XP may/may not elect itself as the master - >> unpredictable), but also shows that XP is unable to pull down the >> browse list form the Samba box. > >> This is the key. Separate out the logs by incoming client name, run >> smbd at debug level 10 and then look in the log. to >> see if it's trying to fetch the browse list, and if so why it goes >> wrong. > >> Jeremy. > > - -- - _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | |Ryan Novosielski - Sr. Systems Programmer |$&| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| |novos...@umdnj.edu - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent.|IST/CST-Academic Svcs. - ADMC 450, Newark -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0cxSUACgkQmb+gadEcsb6fCgCfetMccsL9aLvE5LN2+tC9xbqZ gDgAn1CR0QgAahXcpFfQj/CuDqsKq2LO =Gdr3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
