[sane-devel] Crazy idea :)
On Sun, 2008-06-29 20:22:23 +0200, litlle girl wrote: > flatbed scanners are scanning moving head forward, > there in no reason to loose time on moving head backward useles, > next page can be scanned at head backward move, > and then fliped horizontally. > What do you think? Sure. Just send patches. (And a real name instead of "litlle girl" would be nice, too.) MfG, JBG -- Jan-Benedict Glaw jbglaw at lug-owl.de +49-172-7608481 Signature of:Lauf nicht vor Deinem Gl?ck davon: the second : Es k?nnte hinter Dir stehen! -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/attachments/20080629/d4d7f075/attachment.pgp
[sane-devel] Crazy idea :)
Hi, flatbed scanners are scanning moving head forward, there in no reason to loose time on moving head backward useles, next page can be scanned at head backward move, and then fliped horizontally. What do you think? Regards LLG
[sane-devel] CIS scanners: to calibrate or not to calibrate :) this is the question (my scanner is mad and lazy :)
> I don't know what the gt68xx uses for calibration data, > but the highly experimental genesys/calibration-cache code stores(in memory > only) for each combination of color mode and resolution: > * exposure time > * AFE offset and gain > * per pixel offset and gain(actually just the black/white levels, but the > offset and gain are fully defined by those) gt68xx uses for calibration data internal white and black marks inside the scanner, below the glas (at the -y positon of scanner head) Regards LLG
[sane-devel] CIS scanners: to calibrate or not to calibrate :) this is the question (my scanner is mad and lazy :)
2008/6/29 Gerhard Jaeger : > Hi, > > On Freitag, 27. Juni 2008, litlle girl wrote: > Most probably it will calibrate. Right after installation of the drivers, > you'll be asked to insert a white calibration paper with black marks on > it. Then it starts calibration and stores this data somewhere. Yes, i think too, that win calibrates scanner right after installation of the drivers. > Hi guyz, > i recognize that win drivers dont calibrate my CIS scanner before scan. I ment win dont calibrate every time :) It was difficoult to see win calibration bacause my scanner Plustek OpticSlim 2400+ dont need to insert a white calibration paper with white and black marks on it, because white and black marks are inside the scanner. >> gt68xx backend is loosing about 20sec every time on calibrating! >> Is there any way to turn off gt68xx backend calibrating? > have a look @ the M12 entry, the flag GT68XX_FLAG_SHEET_FED > should do the trick. It'll avoid calibration. > The plustek-backend is able to store calibration data and to > read them back before scanning. This backend (and probably most > others also) needs the value from coarse calibration (the AFE stuff) > and the fine calibration (for each sensor pixel). > The calibration data is stored for each user in its ~/.sane directory. > HTH > Gerhard Maybe code from plustek-backend will be usable in GT68XX backend??
[sane-devel] anyone working on Lexmark X2330 support?
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 15:42 +0200, Gerard Klaver wrote: > Let me know when you have something. Ok, the attached c file works with my scanner. I haven't tested it exhaustively yet, there are timing issues in general (grabbing the data too slowly or too quickly leads to badness and the need for resetting) and you have to edit the code to change the scan parameters, but it works for me in a few cases (colour/greyscale at 150 DPI). I'll do some more tweaking/testing, try to figure out some of the unknown bits in the protocol and the advanced stuff the Lexmark Windows app can do and make it a bit more robust with resetting the scanner to a good state in case of failure. To compile it with GCC you'll probably need to delete the first line, I've been using tcc to merge compile+run into just run. It needs libusb and libpng installed to compile/run and will write out lexmark_scanner.png to the current directory and a bunch of debugging output to stdout. Hopefully some SANE developer can help me turn it into a SANE backend. I'd also like to know if it is similar to any other scanners that are already supported and maybe an existing driver should be extended. I also wrote a short protocol document, not sure if that is useful to SANE developers or not though. -- bye, pabs http://pabs.zip.to -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: lexmark-x2330-scanner.c Type: text/x-csrc Size: 10857 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/attachments/20080629/0a25344a/attachment-0001.c -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/attachments/20080629/0a25344a/attachment-0001.pgp
[sane-devel] CIS scanners: to calibrate or not to calibrate :) this is the question (my scanner is mad and lazy :)
Hi, Pierre Willenbrock wrote: > Rene Rebe schrieb: >> litlle girl wrote: >>> AFE settings looks more stable: >>> >>> grep "\[gt68xx\] afe" ./* >>> ./color-1.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x10 0x05 0x0f 0x04 >>> ./color-2.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x10 0x05 0x0f 0x04 >>> ./color-3.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x10 0x05 0x0f 0x04 >>> ./gray-1.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x10 0x05 0x0f 0x04 >>> ./gray-2.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 >>> ./gray-3.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0e 0x03 >>> ./lineart-1.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0e 0x03 >>> ./lineart-2.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0e 0x03 >>> ./lineart-3.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 >> >> Aside exposure and AFE the backend probably uploads a >> scaling value for each image sensor element (white / dark >> shading etc.?) that should be pretty constant. > > >> (And no, I still have not read the genesys backend source >> to verify what it's doing, this is just from other >> educated experience.) > > I don't know what the gt68xx uses for calibration data, > but the highly experimental genesys/calibration-cache code stores(in > memory only) for each combination of color mode and resolution: > * exposure time > * AFE offset and gain > * per pixel offset and gain(actually just the black/white levels, but > the offset and gain are fully defined by those) Yeah, my point was to write them out to some permanent storage (filesystem) to cache the values and thus avoid 20-30s(++) every time a user accesses the scanner. >> I bet the Windows driver also does not re-calibrate every >> scan, at least the Mac driver for the Canon Lide 70 does >> only calibrate once after unpacking. >> >> Yours, >> > > Regards, > Pierre -- Ren? Rebe - ExactCODE GmbH - Europe, Germany, Berlin http://exactcode.de | http://t2-project.org | http://rene.rebe.name
[sane-devel] CIS scanners: to calibrate or not to calibrate :) this is the question (my scanner is mad and lazy :)
Rene Rebe schrieb: > litlle girl wrote: >> AFE settings looks more stable: >> >> grep "\[gt68xx\] afe" ./* >> ./color-1.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x10 0x05 0x0f 0x04 >> ./color-2.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x10 0x05 0x0f 0x04 >> ./color-3.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x10 0x05 0x0f 0x04 >> ./gray-1.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x10 0x05 0x0f 0x04 >> ./gray-2.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 >> ./gray-3.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0e 0x03 >> ./lineart-1.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0e 0x03 >> ./lineart-2.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0e 0x03 >> ./lineart-3.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 > > Aside exposure and AFE the backend probably uploads a > scaling value for each image sensor element (white / dark > shading etc.?) that should be pretty constant. > > (And no, I still have not read the genesys backend source > to verify what it's doing, this is just from other > educated experience.) I don't know what the gt68xx uses for calibration data, but the highly experimental genesys/calibration-cache code stores(in memory only) for each combination of color mode and resolution: * exposure time * AFE offset and gain * per pixel offset and gain(actually just the black/white levels, but the offset and gain are fully defined by those) > I bet the Windows driver also does not re-calibrate every > scan, at least the Mac driver for the Canon Lide 70 does > only calibrate once after unpacking. > > Yours, > Regards, Pierre
[sane-devel] CIS scanners: to calibrate or not to calibrate :) this is the question (my scanner is mad and lazy :)
Hi, On Freitag, 27. Juni 2008, litlle girl wrote: > Hi guyz, > i recognize that win drivers dont calibrate my CIS scanner before scan. Most probably it will calibrate. Right after installation of the drivers, you'll be asked to insert a white calibration paper with black marks on it. Then it starts calibration and stores this data somewhere. > gt68xx backend is loosing about 20sec every time on calibrating! > Is there any way to turn off gt68xx backend calibrating? have a look @ the M12 entry, the flag GT68XX_FLAG_SHEET_FED should do the trick. It'll avoid calibration. The plustek-backend is able to store calibration data and to read them back before scanning. This backend (and probably most others also) needs the value from coarse calibration (the AFE stuff) and the fine calibration (for each sensor pixel). The calibration data is stored for each user in its ~/.sane directory. HTH Gerhard
[sane-devel] anyone working on Lexmark X2330 support?
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 14:33 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 15:42 +0200, Gerard Klaver wrote: > > > Let me know when you have something. > > Ok, the attached c file works with my scanner. I haven't tested it > exhaustively yet, there are timing issues in general (grabbing the data > too slowly or too quickly leads to badness and the need for resetting) > and you have to edit the code to change the scan parameters, but it > works for me in a few cases (colour/greyscale at 150 DPI). > > I'll do some more tweaking/testing, try to figure out some of the > unknown bits in the protocol and the advanced stuff the Lexmark Windows > app can do and make it a bit more robust with resetting the scanner to a > good state in case of failure. > > To compile it with GCC you'll probably need to delete the first line, > I've been using tcc to merge compile+run into just run. > > It needs libusb and libpng installed to compile/run and will write out > lexmark_scanner.png to the current directory and a bunch of debugging > output to stdout. > > Hopefully some SANE developer can help me turn it into a SANE backend. > I'd also like to know if it is similar to any other scanners that are > already supported and maybe an existing driver should be extended. > > I also wrote a short protocol document, not sure if that is useful to > SANE developers or not though. > Maybe using copy of the lexmark backend naming it lexmark2 or copy from logitech1 backend (see http://gkall.hobby.nl/logitech-pagescan-usb.html) to lexmark2 backend?? A quick check on your file seems that there are not many commands needed to do a scan, so pasting into a backend will be not so much work. I can take a look how i can paste it in a copy of the logitech1 backend. -- m.vr.gr. Gerard Klaver
[sane-devel] CIS scanners: to calibrate or not to calibrate :) this is the question (my scanner is mad and lazy :)
litlle girl wrote: > AFE settings looks more stable: > > grep "\[gt68xx\] afe" ./* > ./color-1.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x10 0x05 0x0f 0x04 > ./color-2.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x10 0x05 0x0f 0x04 > ./color-3.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x10 0x05 0x0f 0x04 > ./gray-1.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x10 0x05 0x0f 0x04 > ./gray-2.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 > ./gray-3.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0e 0x03 > ./lineart-1.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0e 0x03 > ./lineart-2.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0e 0x03 > ./lineart-3.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 Aside exposure and AFE the backend probably uploads a scaling value for each image sensor element (white / dark shading etc.?) that should be pretty constant. (And no, I still have not read the genesys backend source to verify what it's doing, this is just from other educated experience.) I bet the Windows driver also does not re-calibrate every scan, at least the Mac driver for the Canon Lide 70 does only calibrate once after unpacking. Yours, -- Ren? Rebe - ExactCODE GmbH - Europe, Germany, Berlin http://exactcode.de | http://t2-project.org | http://rene.rebe.name
[sane-devel] CIS scanners: to calibrate or not to calibrate :) this is the question (my scanner is mad and lazy :)
AFE settings looks more stable: grep "\[gt68xx\] afe" ./* ./color-1.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x10 0x05 0x0f 0x04 ./color-2.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x10 0x05 0x0f 0x04 ./color-3.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x10 0x05 0x0f 0x04 ./gray-1.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x10 0x05 0x0f 0x04 ./gray-2.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 ./gray-3.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0e 0x03 ./lineart-1.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0e 0x03 ./lineart-2.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0e 0x03 ./lineart-3.log:[gt68xx] afe 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 0x0f 0x04 Reg. LLG
[sane-devel] CIS scanners: to calibrate or not to calibrate :) this is the question (my scanner is mad and lazy :)
2008/6/28 Rene Rebe : > litlle girl wrote: >>> >>> The windows driver probably calibrates once, when the scanner is >>> first used, and stores the reference data somewhere (file, registry, >>> etc.). >>> >>> The SANE driver should try to do the same (not registry of course, >>> but some /var/... whatever file-system location. >>> >>> Yours, >>> >>> -- >>> Ren? Rebe - ExactCODE GmbH - Europe, Germany, Berlin >>> http://exactcode.de | http://t2-project.org | http://rene.rebe.name >>> >> >> This is very good idea! :) >> I think "calibrate.conf" is good place to put calibrate data. >> >> calibrate.conf structure: >> vendor, product, mode (Lineart,Gray,Color) calibrate data >> >> Maybe "recalibrate" option will be needed :) > > As proecssed run with normal user's ID have to be able to > write to it some Un*x a-like /var/state/sane/$backend-$model.raw > file should be more suitable. > > But as I'm not in CPU-less scanners the backend authors > will probably figure out what they like most. > > Yours, > > -- > Ren? Rebe - ExactCODE GmbH - Europe, Germany, Berlin > http://exactcode.de | http://t2-project.org | http://rene.rebe.name > I've made some research, I scan 3 times at lineart, gray and color mode and grep from log last calibrated exposure_time. Lineart 1st [gt68xx] gt68xx_generic_set_exposure_time: 0x300 0x3b3 0x40a 2nd [gt68xx] gt68xx_generic_set_exposure_time: 0x301 0x300 0x3fc 3rd [gt68xx] gt68xx_generic_set_exposure_time: 0x301 0x3b3 0x29c Gray 1st [gt68xx] gt68xx_generic_set_exposure_time: 0x300 0x2c2 0x29c 2nd [gt68xx] gt68xx_generic_set_exposure_time: 0x341 0x3d2 0x29c 3rd [gt68xx] gt68xx_generic_set_exposure_time: 0x350 0x40b 0x44c Color 1st [gt68xx] gt68xx_generic_set_exposure_time: 0x33b 0x2c8 0x29c 2nd [gt68xx] gt68xx_generic_set_exposure_time: 0x300 0x2c9 0x29c 3rd [gt68xx] gt68xx_generic_set_exposure_time: 0x300 0x2c7 0x29c It doesnt make much sense :( LLG
[sane-devel] How to accurately scan A4(210mmx297mm) size paper?
Yep But was just warning eagleskycloud, whose concern was to get an "exact sized" scan area, in mm Can be possible with pixma too, but requires scanning at > 600 dpi Which apparently is not possible with Canon's Win driver, but works fine (up to 4800 dpi on some pixma models) with Sane pixma backend ;-) Nicolas Le samedi 28 juin 2008 ? 22:49 +0200, litlle girl a ?crit : > Maybe beter scan bigger area and then crop/autocrop image, in the case > of the pixma backend. > LLG >