Re: Crucial Computer Program for Particle Physics at Risk of Obsolescence | Quanta Magazine
Am 05.01.23 um 04:31 schrieb Yasha Karant: SL originally was rebuilt through Fermilab/CERN for HEP and adopted by a number of persons who wanted a stable "hardened enterprise" Linux. Because of the association with HEP and the needed computational resources for the support of HEP, I was curious if anyone on this list was or will be involved with FORM. Was FORM being used on SL environments? Is it being used today on whatever environments that currently are deployed by what were SL HEP sites? Most of the HEP lists that are available outside of the actual communities of the various HEP collaborations do not seem to be discussing this issue. Sorry for the intrusion. Hi Yasha, DESY is still using FORM in the theoretical physics group, we have even bought work group servers with lots of RAM to run it, on SL7 of cause. Regards, Götz Waschk -- Götz Waschk° Phone: +49 33762 77169 Deutsches Elektronen-Synchrotron DESY ° E-Mail: goetz.was...@desy.de Platanenallee 6 15738 Zeuthen Germany smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Crucial Computer Program for Particle Physics at Risk of Obsolescence | Quanta Magazine
SL originally was rebuilt through Fermilab/CERN for HEP and adopted by a number of persons who wanted a stable "hardened enterprise" Linux. Because of the association with HEP and the needed computational resources for the support of HEP, I was curious if anyone on this list was or will be involved with FORM. Was FORM being used on SL environments? Is it being used today on whatever environments that currently are deployed by what were SL HEP sites? Most of the HEP lists that are available outside of the actual communities of the various HEP collaborations do not seem to be discussing this issue. Sorry for the intrusion. On 1/4/23 19:14, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 8:34 PM Yasha Karant wrote: Is anyone on this list using or involved with FORM? Although the account below is for the popular press, the content is relevant, as is the retention, tenure, and promotion process for university-based faculty who often are the (sub)PI for a HEP experiment (sub-PI may mean PI on a grant that depends upon the overall collaboration to be fundable). https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.quantamagazine.org_crucial-2Dcomputer-2Dprogram-2Dfor-2Dparticle-2Dphysics-2Dat-2Drisk-2Dof-2Dobsolescence-2D20221201_=DwIDaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=BVKcgRQ4MjUdslTNpZMW9YNlzNB_l1ZaqYbRjXw-F7AWZ0VY4Ie43vgk-HR5KTSl=O1GdXMWyirwUFfFFT0h4UfGn3RAU0ntgYkJTb_bJ_mY= This would seem to have nothing to do with Scientific Linux, which is a rebuilt operating system from an upstream source and no longer being maintained. Why do you bring it up here? Nico Kadel-Garcia
Re: Crucial Computer Program for Particle Physics at Risk of Obsolescence | Quanta Magazine
On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 8:34 PM Yasha Karant wrote: > > Is anyone on this list using or involved with FORM? Although the > account below is for the popular press, the content is relevant, as is > the retention, tenure, and promotion process for university-based > faculty who often are the (sub)PI for a HEP experiment (sub-PI may mean > PI on a grant that depends upon the overall collaboration to be fundable). > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.quantamagazine.org_crucial-2Dcomputer-2Dprogram-2Dfor-2Dparticle-2Dphysics-2Dat-2Drisk-2Dof-2Dobsolescence-2D20221201_=DwIDaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=BVKcgRQ4MjUdslTNpZMW9YNlzNB_l1ZaqYbRjXw-F7AWZ0VY4Ie43vgk-HR5KTSl=O1GdXMWyirwUFfFFT0h4UfGn3RAU0ntgYkJTb_bJ_mY= This would seem to have nothing to do with Scientific Linux, which is a rebuilt operating system from an upstream source and no longer being maintained. Why do you bring it up here? Nico Kadel-Garcia