Re: Modula 2?
On 07/03/2015 06:44 PM, Jeffrey Anderson wrote: That's how it came through, which is rather odd, since I love perl very much and find it quite beautiful and elegant. Now with the both of you loving Perl, I am going to have to learn it. I don't mind using four line to do what can be crammed together in one if that helps me to self document it. And there is nothing stopping me from using the structure I learned with Modula2 in Perl. I already to it with Bash script. It really helps with the debugging! Thank you both for helping me with this -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~
Re: Modula 2?
Sorry, but was this meant as a reply to my comment? That's how it came through, which is rather odd, since I love perl very much and find it quite beautiful and elegant. On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Konstantin Olchanski olcha...@triumf.ca wrote: ... [I hate] Perl [due to] folks trying to ... And I hate cars because some people drive too slow (too fast). If you step into a flame war, at least bring dry powder, will you? A feature of perl is write only regular expressions. A feature of python is significant white space (learned to love that in fortran and in Makefiles). Choose your poison with great consideration. Perl4 forever! -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada -- -- Jeffrey Anderson| jdander...@lbl.gov Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory | Office: 50A-5104E | Mailstop 50A-5101 Phone: 510 486-4208 | Fax: 510 486-4204
Re: Modula 2?
... [I hate] Perl [due to] folks trying to ... And I hate cars because some people drive too slow (too fast). If you step into a flame war, at least bring dry powder, will you? A feature of perl is write only regular expressions. A feature of python is significant white space (learned to love that in fortran and in Makefiles). Choose your poison with great consideration. Perl4 forever! -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada
Re: Modula 2?
On 01/07/15 04:25, toddandmargo wrote: On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 14:41:41 -0700 *Konstantin Olchanski olcha...@triumf.ca* wrote On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 06:59:29PM -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote: Is Modula2 available for SL 6 and 7? pascal - modula-2 - oberon - java - go Maybe I should just give up and learn Perl These days Python and Perl are pretty safe languages which usually is part of most basic Linux installations. If you extend it to the BSD family, Perl is safest. However Python most likely have an easier learning curve than Perl. Both languages are, IMHO, good alternatives. But I generally find Python code much easier to to read. Performance wise, they can both perform very well. If you have no Python experience at all, I can recommend this book: http://www.diveintopython.net/ -- kind regards, David Sommerseth
Re: Modula 2?
On 07/01/2015 03:23 AM, David Sommerseth wrote: On 01/07/15 04:25, toddandmargo wrote: On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 14:41:41 -0700 *Konstantin Olchanski olcha...@triumf.ca* wrote On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 06:59:29PM -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote: Is Modula2 available for SL 6 and 7? pascal - modula-2 - oberon - java - go Maybe I should just give up and learn Perl These days Python and Perl are pretty safe languages which usually is part of most basic Linux installations. If you extend it to the BSD family, Perl is safest. However Python most likely have an easier learning curve than Perl. Both languages are, IMHO, good alternatives. But I generally find Python code much easier to to read. Performance wise, they can both perform very well. If you have no Python experience at all, I can recommend this book: http://www.diveintopython.net/ I have found that the biggest issue I have with Perl is folks trying to cram the sun, the moon, and stars all on to one line. I much prefer to break things up into several line to make them as self documenting as possible. But at least I can figure Perl out most of the time when I see it. I have a harder time with C and I know I shouldn't
RE: Modula 2?
Todd, IMO, Perl can be made to look at least as inscrutable as APL. But there's nothing intrinsic in the language that forces you to write code that can't be understood. It is unfortunate that some practitioners love to write concise (i.e., difficult to understand) code, especially trying to fit it all on one line. Good Perl code should have lots of comments and clear structure, just like any other language which can be written so it can be easily understood. Nothing like having to go back to code you wrote 4 years ago at 3 am with no comments, to encourage good writing style. Just my 2 cents. Carl Friedberg friedb...@esb.com (212) 798-0718 www.esb.com The Elias Book of Baseball Records 2015 Edition -Original Message- From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov [mailto:owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov] On Behalf Of ToddAndMargo Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:33 PM To: scientific-linux-users@fnal.gov Subject: Re: Modula 2? On 07/01/2015 03:23 AM, David Sommerseth wrote: On 01/07/15 04:25, toddandmargo wrote: On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 14:41:41 -0700 *Konstantin Olchanski olcha...@triumf.ca* wrote On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 06:59:29PM -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote: Is Modula2 available for SL 6 and 7? pascal - modula-2 - oberon - java - go Maybe I should just give up and learn Perl These days Python and Perl are pretty safe languages which usually is part of most basic Linux installations. If you extend it to the BSD family, Perl is safest. However Python most likely have an easier learning curve than Perl. Both languages are, IMHO, good alternatives. But I generally find Python code much easier to to read. Performance wise, they can both perform very well. If you have no Python experience at all, I can recommend this book: http://www.diveintopython.net/ I have found that the biggest issue I have with Perl is folks trying to cram the sun, the moon, and stars all on to one line. I much prefer to break things up into several line to make them as self documenting as possible. But at least I can figure Perl out most of the time when I see it. I have a harder time with C and I know I shouldn't
Re: Re: Modula 2?
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 14:41:41 -0700 Konstantin Olchanski lt;olcha...@triumf.cagt; wrote On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 06:59:29PM -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote: gt; gt; Is Modula2 available for SL 6 and 7? gt; pascal -gt; modula-2 -gt; oberon -gt; java -gt; go -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada Maybe I should just give up and learn Perl
Re: Modula 2?
Modula-2 is a pretty 'dead' language. The GNU compiler tool looks to be one of the most up to date from what a google search seems to sya. On 29 June 2015 at 19:59, ToddAndMargo toddandma...@zoho.com wrote: Hi All, Is Modula2 available for SL 6 and 7? Found this: http://www.nongnu.org/gm2/release.html Is there something better? Many thanks, -T -- Stephen J Smoogen.
Modula 2?
Hi All, Is Modula2 available for SL 6 and 7? Found this: http://www.nongnu.org/gm2/release.html Is there something better? Many thanks, -T
