Re: New Install of 6.4 - no Internet step 2, 3, 4 -- 5 - What works Does not

2013-08-14 Thread Larry Linder
Gigabyte 970A-DS3 with Quad core AMD.
SL 5.8 loads and everything works.

Fedora 19 loads and everything works. 
kernel linux 3.9.5-301.fc19

SL 6.4 loads and when network is set up.  Realtech on board chip set RTL 
8168/811E as marked on chip.
Network will not connect.
Ping 192.168.0.1 - router and it runs ping and no return from router.
ifconfig
eth0 receives data but TX is always 0.
Tried different drivers for realtech chip - nothing worked and most would fail 
when you restart no eth0.
Fresh install of 6.4 with network set up - same result - no network TX.
Loaded new Kernel from Elrepo.kernel-it-3.0.89-el6.elrepo.x86_64.rpm
Installed with rpm -i *.rpm.
rebooted system
touched key to select new kernel at boot.
ifconfig 
eth0 receives data and transmits data.
network now connects and everything now works.

Conclusion is the kernel supplied in 6.4 has a mistake somewhere, realtech 
driver and hardware are good.

r8168 driver works with SL5.8.  Installing new kernel solved the problem.
r8169 driver is used with Fedora 19.

Have learned more than I wanted to know.

Thank you all for your help.
Larry Linder

On Tuesday 13 August 2013 11:57 am, Larry Linder wrote:
 On Monday 12 August 2013 10:41 am, Larry Linder wrote:
  On Friday 09 August 2013 12:44 pm, you wrote:
   On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Larry Linder
  
   larry.lin...@micro-controls.com wrote:
 Have you looked at ELRepo? Particularly, FAQ#4 at
 http://elrepo.org/tiki/FAQ may help you find the right driver for
 the NIC.

 Akemi
   
The problem with the MB's using RTL8168/8111 has been know for a few
years. The 32 bit version of SL 6.2 works - have not verified it.
We need to use SL 64 our system.
   
Installed Windows 7 on a spare disk, Internet found and worked -
hardware is checked.
   
Downloaded new driver from realtech.com for RTL8168/8111 and
sneaker net ed it over to SL 6.4 box applied the new driver.
New driver must have a problem with the 64 bit interface - or SL 6 X
_64 code is broken somewhere.
  
   Did you have a chance to identify your device IDs (see above, my note)?
  
   I have a system with the following NIC:
  
   02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
   RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev
   02)
  
   The motherboard is GA-MA785GM-US2H.
  
   I use ELRepo's driver from kmod-r8168-8.032.00-1.el6.elrepo.x86_64.
   The OS is SL 6.4 (64-bit) but this machine has been running SL for at
   least 3 years with no apparent network trouble.
  
   Akemi
 
  Tried the driver from elrepo.X86.64 - did not work -
  A direct install of SL6.4 resulted in eth0 receiving data but not
  transmission.  Installing new driver resulted in eth0 not being
  recognized. Ping quit - no eth0 found.   ifconfig confirms that there
  is not eth0.
 
  We had to enable IOMMU on mother board and then Fedora 19 live would
  load. The driver used was in Fedora 19 was R1869-  Internet was working.
 
  Tried using r1869 with SL 6.4 and eth0 was not listed in ifconfig
 
  Numerous people on net said that SL 6.4 32 bit version would load and
  Ethernet worked.  May try this a later today to verify it.
 
  Reloading SL 6.4 from DVD this AM to use system as an isolated box.
 
  Any help would be appreciated.
  Learned more about drivers than I wanted to know.
 
  Comment:
  Fedora 19 with the latest Gnome desktop is written for a tablet.   It
  only takes 6 mouse clicks to do anything useful - Hope RH 7 will allow a
  person to select an older version of KDE or Gnome.
  I would hate to think of the number of mouse ites injuries we could
  have. Is there a number of simpler desktops available.
  The new KDE is useless, Gnome in Fidora 19 is terrible so where do people
  who need a no BS computer go?
 
  Thank You All
 
  Larry Linder

 The mystery of why there is no Internet on 6.4 using the Gigabyte board
 become more confusing.
 We were looking at our hardware list and decided that boxes deployed two
 years ago had essentially the same NIC stuff and they worked with 5.5 -
 5.9. We loaded 5.8 into new Gigabyte hardware and guess what it worked
 perfectly !!!
 The 6.4 DVD was down loaded and checked and everything matches.
 There is something wrong in the Gnome system network set up.  SL 5.8 has a
 very different network setup.
 We got pretty suspicious when we loaded updated driver and new Kernel 3.0.8
 and same result.   Too many people stated that this worked.

 SL 6.4 is loading for the nth time and we will use another scheme to setup
 network.

 Thank You All

 Larry Linder


Re: New Install of 6.4 - no Internet step 2, 3, 4 -- 5 - What works Does not

2013-08-14 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:16 AM, Larry Linder
larry.lin...@micro-controls.com wrote:

 Conclusion is the kernel supplied in 6.4 has a mistake somewhere, realtech
 driver and hardware are good.

 r8168 driver works with SL5.8.  Installing new kernel solved the problem.
 r8169 driver is used with Fedora 19.

 Have you looked at ELRepo? Particularly, FAQ#4 at
 http://elrepo.org/tiki/FAQ may help you find the right driver for
 the NIC.

 Akemi

   Did you have a chance to identify your device IDs (see above, my note)?
  
   I have a system with the following NIC:
  
   02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
   RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev
   02)

Larry,

I'm still waiting for you to provide the device IDs of your hardware.
The info might help locate the source of the issue. Please show us the
output returned by the command:

lspci -nn | grep -i net

Akemi


Re: New Install of 6.4 - no Internet step 2, 3, 4 -- 5 - What works Does not

2013-08-14 Thread Larry Linder
On Wednesday 14 August 2013 11:35 am, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:16 AM, Larry Linder

 larry.lin...@micro-controls.com wrote:
  Conclusion is the kernel supplied in 6.4 has a mistake somewhere,
  realtech driver and hardware are good.
 
  r8168 driver works with SL5.8.  Installing new kernel solved the problem.
  r8169 driver is used with Fedora 19.
 
  Have you looked at ELRepo? Particularly, FAQ#4 at
  http://elrepo.org/tiki/FAQ may help you find the right driver
  for the NIC.
 
  Akemi
   
Did you have a chance to identify your device IDs (see above, my
note)?
   
I have a system with the following NIC:
   
02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168]
(rev 02)

 Larry,

 I'm still waiting for you to provide the device IDs of your hardware.
 The info might help locate the source of the issue. Please show us the
 output returned by the command:

 lspci -nn | grep -i net

 Akemi
New system
3:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev 06)

2 year old Gigiabyte system in shop
04:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev 03)

Larry


Re: New Install of 6.4 - no Internet step 2, 3, 4 -- 5 - What works Does not

2013-08-14 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Larry Linder
larry.lin...@micro-controls.com wrote:
 On Wednesday 14 August 2013 11:35 am, Akemi Yagi wrote:

02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168]
(rev 02)

 Larry,

 I'm still waiting for you to provide the device IDs of your hardware.
 The info might help locate the source of the issue. Please show us the
 output returned by the command:

 lspci -nn | grep -i net

 Akemi
 New system
 3:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
 RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev 06)

 2 year old Gigiabyte system in shop
 04:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
 RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev 03)

 Larry

The same IDs but with a newer rev. It needs some investigation as to
what difference the rev number makes in terms of the driver
functionality.

Akemi


Re: New Install of 6.4 - no Internet step 2, 3, 4 -- 5

2013-08-13 Thread Larry Linder
On Monday 12 August 2013 10:41 am, Larry Linder wrote:
 On Friday 09 August 2013 12:44 pm, you wrote:
  On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Larry Linder
 
  larry.lin...@micro-controls.com wrote:
Have you looked at ELRepo? Particularly, FAQ#4 at
http://elrepo.org/tiki/FAQ may help you find the right driver for
the NIC.
   
Akemi
  
   The problem with the MB's using RTL8168/8111 has been know for a few
   years. The 32 bit version of SL 6.2 works - have not verified it.
   We need to use SL 64 our system.
  
   Installed Windows 7 on a spare disk, Internet found and worked -
   hardware is checked.
  
   Downloaded new driver from realtech.com for RTL8168/8111 and sneaker
   net ed it over to SL 6.4 box applied the new driver.
   New driver must have a problem with the 64 bit interface - or SL 6 X
   _64 code is broken somewhere.
 
  Did you have a chance to identify your device IDs (see above, my note)?
 
  I have a system with the following NIC:
 
  02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
  RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev
  02)
 
  The motherboard is GA-MA785GM-US2H.
 
  I use ELRepo's driver from kmod-r8168-8.032.00-1.el6.elrepo.x86_64.
  The OS is SL 6.4 (64-bit) but this machine has been running SL for at
  least 3 years with no apparent network trouble.
 
  Akemi

 Tried the driver from elrepo.X86.64 - did not work -
 A direct install of SL6.4 resulted in eth0 receiving data but not
 transmission.  Installing new driver resulted in eth0 not being recognized.
 Ping quit - no eth0 found.   ifconfig confirms that there is not eth0.

 We had to enable IOMMU on mother board and then Fedora 19 live would load.
 The driver used was in Fedora 19 was R1869-  Internet was working.

 Tried using r1869 with SL 6.4 and eth0 was not listed in ifconfig

 Numerous people on net said that SL 6.4 32 bit version would load and
 Ethernet worked.  May try this a later today to verify it.

 Reloading SL 6.4 from DVD this AM to use system as an isolated box.

 Any help would be appreciated.
 Learned more about drivers than I wanted to know.

 Comment:
 Fedora 19 with the latest Gnome desktop is written for a tablet.   It only
 takes 6 mouse clicks to do anything useful - Hope RH 7 will allow a person
 to select an older version of KDE or Gnome.
 I would hate to think of the number of mouse ites injuries we could have.
 Is there a number of simpler desktops available.
 The new KDE is useless, Gnome in Fidora 19 is terrible so where do people
 who need a no BS computer go?

 Thank You All

 Larry Linder

The mystery of why there is no Internet on 6.4 using the Gigabyte board become 
more confusing.
We were looking at our hardware list and decided that boxes deployed two years 
ago had essentially the same NIC stuff and they worked with 5.5 - 5.9.
We loaded 5.8 into new Gigabyte hardware and guess what it worked 
perfectly !!!
The 6.4 DVD was down loaded and checked and everything matches.  
There is something wrong in the Gnome system network set up.  SL 5.8 has a 
very different network setup.   
We got pretty suspicious when we loaded updated driver and new Kernel 3.0.8 
and same result.   Too many people stated that this worked.   

SL 6.4 is loading for the nth time and we will use another scheme to setup 
network.

Thank You All

Larry Linder


Re: New Install of 6.4 - no Internet step 2, 3

2013-08-12 Thread Larry Linder
On Friday 09 August 2013 12:44 pm, you wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Larry Linder

 larry.lin...@micro-controls.com wrote:
   Have you looked at ELRepo? Particularly, FAQ#4 at
   http://elrepo.org/tiki/FAQ may help you find the right driver for the
   NIC.
  
   Akemi
 
  The problem with the MB's using RTL8168/8111 has been know for a few
  years. The 32 bit version of SL 6.2 works - have not verified it.
  We need to use SL 64 our system.
 
  Installed Windows 7 on a spare disk, Internet found and worked - hardware
  is checked.
 
  Downloaded new driver from realtech.com for RTL8168/8111 and sneaker
  net ed it over to SL 6.4 box applied the new driver.
  New driver must have a problem with the 64 bit interface - or SL 6 X _64
  code is broken somewhere.

 Did you have a chance to identify your device IDs (see above, my note)?

 I have a system with the following NIC:

 02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
 RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev
 02)

 The motherboard is GA-MA785GM-US2H.

 I use ELRepo's driver from kmod-r8168-8.032.00-1.el6.elrepo.x86_64.
 The OS is SL 6.4 (64-bit) but this machine has been running SL for at
 least 3 years with no apparent network trouble.

 Akemi

Tried the driver from elrepo.X86.64 - did not work - 
A direct install of SL6.4 resulted in eth0 receiving data but not 
transmission.  Installing new driver resulted in eth0 not being recognized.  
Ping quit - no eth0 found.   ifconfig confirms that there is not eth0.

We had to enable IOMMU on mother board and then Fedora 19 live would load.
The driver used was in Fedora 19 was R1869-  Internet was working.

Tried using r1869 with SL 6.4 and eth0 was not listed in ifconfig

Numerous people on net said that SL 6.4 32 bit version would load and Ethernet 
worked.  May try this a later today to verify it.

Reloading SL 6.4 from DVD this AM to use system as an isolated box.

Any help would be appreciated.
Learned more about drivers than I wanted to know.

Comment:
Fedora 19 with the latest Gnome desktop is written for a tablet.   It only 
takes 6 mouse clicks to do anything useful - Hope RH 7 will allow a person to 
select an older version of KDE or Gnome.  
I would hate to think of the number of mouse ites injuries we could have.
Is there a number of simpler desktops available.
The new KDE is useless, Gnome in Fidora 19 is terrible so where do people who 
need a no BS computer go?

Thank You All

Larry Linder


Re: New Install of 6.4 - no Internet step 2, 3

2013-08-12 Thread Jeffrey Anderson
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Larry Linder 
larry.lin...@micro-controls.com wrote:

 Comment:
 Fedora 19 with the latest Gnome desktop is written for a tablet.   It only
 takes 6 mouse clicks to do anything useful - Hope RH 7 will allow a person
 to
 select an older version of KDE or Gnome.
 I would hate to think of the number of mouse ites injuries we could have.
 Is there a number of simpler desktops available.
 The new KDE is useless, Gnome in Fidora 19 is terrible so where do people
 who
 need a no BS computer go?


I agree with you about Gnome3.  I don't mind the latest KDE (4.10), but
agree that it may be too heavy for some.
Fedora19 shipped with MATE as an option, though I don't think it is
installed by default.  It is a fork of Gnome 2 and may be suitable.
yum groupinstall MATE Desktop   to get it.

LXDE and IceWM are still available through simple yum updates from the
standard Fedora repo as well.

Jeff


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Re: New Install of 6.4 - no Internet step 2, 3

2013-08-12 Thread Paul Robert Marino
I use XFCE on fedoraI would like to see it on EL 7.Its a good balance of usability without the bloat that Gnome and KDE have developed over the years.-- Sent from my HP Pre3On Aug 12, 2013 13:42, Jeffrey Anderson jdander...@lbl.gov wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Larry Linder larry.lin...@micro-controls.com wrote:

Comment:
Fedora 19 with the latest Gnome desktop is written for a tablet.   It only
takes 6 mouse clicks to do anything useful - Hope RH 7 will allow a person to
select an older version of KDE or Gnome.
I would hate to think of the number of mouse ites injuries we could have.
Is there a number of simpler desktops available.
The new KDE is useless, Gnome in Fidora 19 is terrible so where do people who
need a no BS computer go?I agree with you about Gnome3.  I dont mind the latest KDE (4.10), but agree that it may be too heavy for some.

Fedora19 shipped with MATE as an option, though I dont think it is installed by default.  It is a fork of Gnome 2 and may be suitable.yum groupinstall MATE Desktop   to get it.

LXDE and IceWM are still available through simple yum updates from the standard Fedora repo as well.  Jeff

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Re: New Install of 6.4 - no Internet step 2, 3

2013-08-09 Thread Larry Linder
On Thursday 08 August 2013 12:17 pm, Robert Blair wrote:
 If this is like the board I got a while ago - one issue is the BIOS
 defaults (the USB problems). The board I had had IOMMU disabled by
 default and this needs to be enabled for USB to work under linux.

 On 08/08/2013 10:45 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
  On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Larry Linder
 
  larry.lin...@micro-controls.com wrote:
  After searching the net there are a number of people who have the same
  problem.   Gigabyte GA-970-DS3 mother boards have several problems out
  of the box.   With Ubuntu 64 bit systems they do not work or support the
  RealTech RTL8168/811E chip set.  Other reported failures appear to be
  USB3.
 
  I looks like we have a windows only board at the moment.
 
  A fix is to download the latest driver for the chip set, compile it and
  install it,  test it.   According to article Ubuntu's newest has
  updated driver.
  Our MB is also a version 1.0 and now they are up to 3.0.   The good deal
  for a few $ may be an expensive one in labor.
 
  When we are done, will post a how to fix this for SL.
 
  This system is really quick with a Quad core and 4.1 GHz clock.   It
  looked initially like a super computer at a steal and is well worth the
  time spent if fix works.
 
  Larry Linder
 
  Have you looked at ELRepo? Particularly, FAQ#4 at
  http://elrepo.org/tiki/FAQ may help you find the right driver for the
  NIC.
 
  Akemi
The problem with the MB's using RTL8168/8111 has been know for a few years.
The 32 bit version of SL 6.2 works - have not verified it.
We need to use SL 64 our system.

Installed Windows 7 on a spare disk, Internet found and worked - hardware is 
checked.

Downloaded new driver from realtech.com for RTL8168/8111 and sneaker net ed 
it over to SL 6.4 box applied the new driver.
New driver must have a problem with the 64 bit interface - or SL 6 X _64 code 
is broken somewhere.

Next is to load up Fedora 19 and see if it works.   Then we will be able to 
use SL 7.

Once we have decoded the problem - who at redhat should the problem submitted 
to to make sure they get driver / SL to work.

More - later

Back to work

Thank You all
Larry Linder


Re: New Install of 6.4 - no Internet step 2, 3

2013-08-09 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Larry Linder
larry.lin...@micro-controls.com wrote:

  Have you looked at ELRepo? Particularly, FAQ#4 at
  http://elrepo.org/tiki/FAQ may help you find the right driver for the
  NIC.
 
  Akemi

 The problem with the MB's using RTL8168/8111 has been know for a few years.
 The 32 bit version of SL 6.2 works - have not verified it.
 We need to use SL 64 our system.

 Installed Windows 7 on a spare disk, Internet found and worked - hardware is
 checked.

 Downloaded new driver from realtech.com for RTL8168/8111 and sneaker net ed
 it over to SL 6.4 box applied the new driver.
 New driver must have a problem with the 64 bit interface - or SL 6 X _64 code
 is broken somewhere.

Did you have a chance to identify your device IDs (see above, my note)?

I have a system with the following NIC:

02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev
02)

The motherboard is GA-MA785GM-US2H.

I use ELRepo's driver from kmod-r8168-8.032.00-1.el6.elrepo.x86_64.
The OS is SL 6.4 (64-bit) but this machine has been running SL for at
least 3 years with no apparent network trouble.

Akemi