Re: Open Letter....

2010-08-12 Thread Michael Tiernan

RE: Open Letter (Plea for Medical Help/Assistance) to World Leaders
I am just impressed and gratified to know that World Leaders are using 
Scientific Linux. :)


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Re: Open Letter....

2010-08-12 Thread Troy Dawson

Michael Tiernan wrote:

RE: Open Letter (Plea for Medical Help/Assistance) to World Leaders
I am just impressed and gratified to know that World Leaders are using 
Scientific Linux. :)




Needless to say, That account is removed from the list.  Just be glad 
the barrage of other things that came in at the same time didn't hit the 
list.

Troy

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Re: Open Letter....

2010-08-12 Thread g
On 08/12/2010 01:45 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:
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 Needless to say, That account is removed from the list.  Just be glad 
 the barrage of other things that came in at the same time didn't hit the 
 list.

troy,

my thanks to you.


my junk filters caught his 1226 hrs utc email, but missed the 1252 hrs utc.

only reason i can see was his using 'to: the linux community' in body
of email.


noting x-spam on hepa1.fnal.gov;

1226 hrs utc;

 X-Spam-Status:
   No, score=4.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,DEAR_SOMETHING,FB_GET_MEDS
autolearn=disabled

1252 hrs utc;

 X-Spam-Status:
   No, score=3.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,SARE_BAYES_5x7, SARE_FRAUD_X3
autolearn=disabled


otherwise, as always, thanks for your great work and fine efforts.


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Re: Another side effect that crept in with SL 5.5

2010-08-12 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:08, Larry Linder
larry.lin...@micro-controls.com wrote:
 I hate to say this but Linux has been around a long time and refuses to grow
 up.   The kids at Fedora scare me to death, due to lack to testing and
 maturity.   How does some thing that has worked for a long long time suddenly
 quit.

Having been around for a while, I would say that the testing inside of
Fedora is actually more than what went into most Red Hat Linux (4.1 -
7) that I worked on. The problem is that the market you are working in
 is NOT the market Fedora is built for. So what kind of testing you
would do is not what Fedora is looking to do.

Certified embedded hardware is a completely different beast. You are
going to have test suites on top of test suites and you are going to
expect software sides to stay the same because you have too much time
handling all the changes in the last batch of chips you got. And while
you are looking for an OS that is free in cost (because that last
batch of chips cost 6cents per versus the original 5 cents you
expected) you are going to want something that stays the same forever
and a day. The people who are driving Fedora are on the complete
opposite end of the Technology adoption curve from you so of course it
looks completely scary.


[This does not excuse Cups dropping known behaviour in the middle of a
release... I could pass the buck to Apple, but that never works.]


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Re: Another side effect that crept in with SL 5.5

2010-08-12 Thread Jon Peatfield

On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

snip

[This does not excuse Cups dropping known behaviour in the middle of a
release... I could pass the buck to Apple, but that never works.]


Well the text to ps converter that Apple provide isn't the one that 
Fedora/RH/sl use so may not be their bug.


btw we just use a wrapper round a2ps since when we switched to cups we 
were comming from a *very* different print system which happened to use 
a2ps.  Of course now our users hardly ever seem to send text...


 -- Jon