News on Scientific Linux
I have heard of some rather upsetting news that "Scientific Linux will likely to be dropped soon as RHEL aren't planning to release source rpms outside the RHEL customers - only source tar balls". Not sure if the change on source makes any difference to the Sc Linux development team. But I shall be grateful if someone please confirm or deny this news. Many thanks. Peter -- Scanned by iCritical.
Re: News on Scientific Linux
On 06/06/2014 09:08 AM, peter.c...@stfc.ac.uk wrote: I have heard of some rather upsetting news that "Scientific Linux will likely to be dropped soon as RHEL aren't planning to release source rpms outside the RHEL customers - only source tar balls". Not sure if the change on source makes any difference to the Sc Linux development team. But I shall be grateful if someone please confirm or deny this news. Many thanks. Peter What's your source for that information? -- Stephen Berg Systems Administrator NRL Code: 7320 Office: 228-688-5738 stephen.berg@nrlssc.navy.mil
RE: News on Scientific Linux
An indirect news from a colleague, hence I am seeking for more creditable clarification from this group. -Original Message- From: Stephen Berg (Contractor) [mailto:stephen.berg@nrlssc.navy.mil] Sent: 06 June 2014 15:11 To: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@LISTSERV.FNAL.GOV Subject: Re: News on Scientific Linux On 06/06/2014 09:08 AM, peter.c...@stfc.ac.uk wrote: > I have heard of some rather upsetting news that "Scientific Linux will > likely to be dropped soon as RHEL aren't planning to release source rpms > outside the RHEL customers - only source tar balls". > > Not sure if the change on source makes any difference to the Sc Linux > development team. > > But I shall be grateful if someone please confirm or deny this news. > > Many thanks. > > Peter What's your source for that information? -- Stephen Berg Systems Administrator NRL Code: 7320 Office: 228-688-5738 stephen.berg@nrlssc.navy.mil -- Scanned by iCritical.
Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] News on Scientific Linux
The folks over at CentOS are planning to host the RHEL source in a set of git repos. The long term future of source rpms on ftp.redhat.com is somewhat fluid right now. Pat On 06/06/2014 09:14 AM, Peter C. Chiu wrote: An indirect news from a colleague, hence I am seeking for more creditable clarification from this group. -Original Message- From: Stephen Berg (Contractor) [mailto:stephen.berg@nrlssc.navy.mil] Sent: 06 June 2014 15:11 To: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@LISTSERV.FNAL.GOV Subject: Re: News on Scientific Linux On 06/06/2014 09:08 AM, peter.c...@stfc.ac.uk wrote: I have heard of some rather upsetting news that "Scientific Linux will likely to be dropped soon as RHEL aren't planning to release source rpms outside the RHEL customers - only source tar balls". Not sure if the change on source makes any difference to the Sc Linux development team. But I shall be grateful if someone please confirm or deny this news. Many thanks. Peter What's your source for that information? -- Stephen Berg Systems Administrator NRL Code: 7320 Office: 228-688-5738 stephen.berg@nrlssc.navy.mil -- Pat Riehecky Scientific Linux developer http://www.scientificlinux.org/
RE: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] News on Scientific Linux
Thanks, Pat, but would that be significant enough to impact future releases? Peter -Original Message- From: Pat Riehecky [mailto:riehe...@fnal.gov] Sent: 06 June 2014 15:21 To: Chiu, Peter (STFC,RAL,RALSP); SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@LISTSERV.FNAL.GOV Subject: Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] News on Scientific Linux The folks over at CentOS are planning to host the RHEL source in a set of git repos. The long term future of source rpms on ftp.redhat.com is somewhat fluid right now. Pat On 06/06/2014 09:14 AM, Peter C. Chiu wrote: > An indirect news from a colleague, hence I am seeking for more creditable > clarification from this group. > > -Original Message- > From: Stephen Berg (Contractor) > [mailto:stephen.berg@nrlssc.navy.mil] > Sent: 06 June 2014 15:11 > To: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@LISTSERV.FNAL.GOV > Subject: Re: News on Scientific Linux > > On 06/06/2014 09:08 AM, peter.c...@stfc.ac.uk wrote: >> I have heard of some rather upsetting news that "Scientific Linux >> will likely to be dropped soon as RHEL aren't planning to release source >> rpms outside the RHEL customers - only source tar balls". >> >> Not sure if the change on source makes any difference to the Sc Linux >> development team. >> >> But I shall be grateful if someone please confirm or deny this news. >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Peter > What's your source for that information? > > -- > Stephen Berg > Systems Administrator > NRL Code: 7320 > Office: 228-688-5738 > stephen.berg@nrlssc.navy.mil -- Pat Riehecky Scientific Linux developer http://www.scientificlinux.org/ -- Scanned by iCritical.
Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] News on Scientific Linux
Excerpts from Pat Riehecky's message of 2014-06-06 16:20:35 +0200: > The folks over at CentOS are planning to host the RHEL source in a set > of git repos. The long term future of source rpms on ftp.redhat.com is > somewhat fluid right now. https://indico.cern.ch/event/274555/session/11/#20140519 has some SL related presentations from last week. Steve > > Pat > > On 06/06/2014 09:14 AM, Peter C. Chiu wrote: > > An indirect news from a colleague, hence I am seeking for more creditable > > clarification from this group. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Stephen Berg (Contractor) [mailto:stephen.berg@nrlssc.navy.mil] > > Sent: 06 June 2014 15:11 > > To: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@LISTSERV.FNAL.GOV > > Subject: Re: News on Scientific Linux > > > > On 06/06/2014 09:08 AM, peter.c...@stfc.ac.uk wrote: > >> I have heard of some rather upsetting news that "Scientific Linux will > >> likely to be dropped soon as RHEL aren't planning to release source rpms > >> outside the RHEL customers - only source tar balls". > >> > >> Not sure if the change on source makes any difference to the Sc Linux > >> development team. > >> > >> But I shall be grateful if someone please confirm or deny this news. > >> > >> Many thanks. > >> > >> Peter > > What's your source for that information? > > > > -- > > Stephen Berg > > Systems Administrator > > NRL Code: 7320 > > Office: 228-688-5738 > > stephen.berg@nrlssc.navy.mil > -- -- Steve Traylen, CERN IT.
Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] News on Scientific Linux
We expect to be able to continue releasing updates for SL5 and SL6. Pat On 06/06/2014 09:25 AM, peter.c...@stfc.ac.uk wrote: Thanks, Pat, but would that be significant enough to impact future releases? Peter -Original Message- From: Pat Riehecky [mailto:riehe...@fnal.gov] Sent: 06 June 2014 15:21 To: Chiu, Peter (STFC,RAL,RALSP); SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@LISTSERV.FNAL.GOV Subject: Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] News on Scientific Linux The folks over at CentOS are planning to host the RHEL source in a set of git repos. The long term future of source rpms on ftp.redhat.com is somewhat fluid right now. Pat On 06/06/2014 09:14 AM, Peter C. Chiu wrote: An indirect news from a colleague, hence I am seeking for more creditable clarification from this group. -Original Message- From: Stephen Berg (Contractor) [mailto:stephen.berg@nrlssc.navy.mil] Sent: 06 June 2014 15:11 To: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@LISTSERV.FNAL.GOV Subject: Re: News on Scientific Linux On 06/06/2014 09:08 AM, peter.c...@stfc.ac.uk wrote: I have heard of some rather upsetting news that "Scientific Linux will likely to be dropped soon as RHEL aren't planning to release source rpms outside the RHEL customers - only source tar balls". Not sure if the change on source makes any difference to the Sc Linux development team. But I shall be grateful if someone please confirm or deny this news. Many thanks. Peter What's your source for that information? -- Stephen Berg Systems Administrator NRL Code: 7320 Office: 228-688-5738 stephen.berg@nrlssc.navy.mil -- Pat Riehecky Scientific Linux developer http://www.scientificlinux.org/ -- Pat Riehecky Scientific Linux developer http://www.scientificlinux.org/
Re: News on Scientific Linux
I wonder if there is some truth to this...just noticed, when looking around for some source for this, that Red Hat seems to be pushing a platform called Red Hat Enterprise Linux For Scientific Computing. PEV On 06/06/2014 10:14 AM, peter.c...@stfc.ac.uk wrote: An indirect news from a colleague, hence I am seeking for more creditable clarification from this group. -Original Message- From: Stephen Berg (Contractor) [mailto:stephen.berg@nrlssc.navy.mil] Sent: 06 June 2014 15:11 To: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@LISTSERV.FNAL.GOV Subject: Re: News on Scientific Linux On 06/06/2014 09:08 AM, peter.c...@stfc.ac.uk wrote: I have heard of some rather upsetting news that "Scientific Linux will likely to be dropped soon as RHEL aren't planning to release source rpms outside the RHEL customers - only source tar balls". Not sure if the change on source makes any difference to the Sc Linux development team. But I shall be grateful if someone please confirm or deny this news. Many thanks. Peter What's your source for that information? -- Stephen Berg Systems Administrator NRL Code: 7320 Office: 228-688-5738 stephen.berg@nrlssc.navy.mil -- Paul E Virgo Sr. System Administrator Code 610.2 SESDA III - DAAC/DISC Goddard Space Flight Ctr/NASA Greenbelt, MD Greenbelt, MD 20771 (301) 614-5751
Re: News on Scientific Linux
>From the announcement regarding the cooperation between Red Hat and CentOS: "Members and contributors to the CentOS efforts are still isolated from the RHEL Groups inside Red Hat, with the only interface being srpm / source path tracking, no sooner than is considered released. In summary: we retain an upstream." It sounds like the SRPMs aren't going anywhere. Brandon Vincent
Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] News on Scientific Linux
> We expect to be able to continue releasing updates for SL5 and SL6. >> The folks over at CentOS are planning to host the RHEL source in a set >> of git repos. The long term future of source rpms on ftp.redhat.com >> is somewhat fluid right now. Dear all, This email is in this context and reflects my opinions and not necessarily the opinions of my current employer. 1) I think the value of the "Scientific Linux" is very high and many people see that. I think the respect Fermi gain relative to the effort they put into "Scientific Linux" is imminence, but maybe not easy to put in a quarterly reporting financial spread sheet. 2) I think Redhat effectively buying Centos shows the business value of a free open source distribution to them. Scientific Linux is a very valuable resource that many would be envious of Redhat for cultivating. I expect Redhat wants to continue with a good relationship from Scientific Linux. I have no doubt others may be keen to step in if Redhat ever misbehaves toward Scientific Linux. I hope the funding is secure for Scientific Linux Fermi; as in terms of outreach and impact factor I think "Scientific Linux" is an ongoing success. If funding is not disappearing, (of which I have no reason to believe it is) I think just because the future is "somewhat fluid right now" does not mean the end of the world. Certainly we will all be watching this space, and waiting to hear what comes of discussions, between "Scientific Linux Fermi" and "Redhat", but I for one would defiantly not panic, as the worst that could happen will not be so bad. In the last HEPIX it was clear the discussions where not finished. The scientific Linux community picked an open source platform for a reason, so that the worst that could happen would not cause major disruption. This remains true as it was when Scientific Linux was formed. Even if bad things happen with Redhat/Centos (which would surprise me) I have no doubt that the "Scientific Linux" community will adapt. Best regards Owen.
need bash variable syntax help
Hi All, In Bash script language, how do I create a variable name from a variable? I am trying to create a variable called "abcStatus" x=abc $xStatus=xyz obviously doesn't work. What am I doing wrong? Many thanks, -T
Re: need bash variable syntax help
There is probably a better way, (bash declare perhaps?), but: x=abc eval $(echo $x)Status="This works!" Brandon Vincent On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:52 AM, ToddAndMargo wrote: > Hi All, > > In Bash script language, how do I create a variable name > from a variable? > > I am trying to create a variable called "abcStatus" > > x=abc > $xStatus=xyz > > obviously doesn't work. What am I doing wrong? > > Many thanks, > -T
Re: need bash variable syntax help
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 8:52 PM, ToddAndMargo mailto:toddandma...@zoho.com>> wrote:
Hi All,
In Bash script language, how do I create a variable name
from a variable?
I am trying to create a variable called "abcStatus"
x=abc
$xStatus=xyz
obviously doesn't work. What am I doing wrong?
Many thanks,
-T
On 06/06/2014 09:09 PM, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote:
x=abc
eval ${x}Status=xyz
echo $abcStatus
- Pat
Hi Pat,
Wow. I would have never figured that out on my own.
Thank you!
Follow on question: this works, but I would like
to clean it up:
xx=ech
eval "$xx""o abc"
abc
-T
--
~~
Computers are like air conditioners.
They malfunction when you open windows
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Re: need bash variable syntax help
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:52 AM, ToddAndMargo wrote: Hi All, In Bash script language, how do I create a variable name from a variable? I am trying to create a variable called "abcStatus" x=abc $xStatus=xyz obviously doesn't work. What am I doing wrong? Many thanks, -T On 06/06/2014 09:14 PM, Brandon Vincent wrote:> There is probably a better way, (bash declare perhaps?), but: > > x=abc > eval $(echo $x)Status="This works!" > > Brandon Vincent > Hi Brandon, I completely blanked on "eval". Thank you! -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~
Re: need bash variable syntax help
Actually, it would be good if someone with a good deal of bash scripting experience chimed in. eval is not safe to use in a bash script. If the input is crafted cleverly, the script can execute unwanted commands. Not to mention the above examples don't work great with characters like "!" which are evaluated as the built-in history command by eval. You need to actually escape my example with backslashes for that reason. Brandon Vincent On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 4:25 AM, ToddAndMargo wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:52 AM, ToddAndMargo >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> In Bash script language, how do I create a variable name >>> from a variable? >>> >>> I am trying to create a variable called "abcStatus" >>> >>> x=abc >>> $xStatus=xyz >>> >>> obviously doesn't work. What am I doing wrong? >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> -T >> >> > > On 06/06/2014 09:14 PM, Brandon Vincent wrote:> There is probably a better > way, (bash declare perhaps?), but: > >> >> x=abc >> eval $(echo $x)Status="This works!" >> >> Brandon Vincent >> > > Hi Brandon, > >I completely blanked on "eval". Thank you! > > > -T > > -- > ~~ > Computers are like air conditioners. > They malfunction when you open windows > ~~
Re: need bash variable syntax help
On 06/06/2014 09:23 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 8:52 PM, ToddAndMargo mailto:toddandma...@zoho.com>> wrote:
Hi All,
In Bash script language, how do I create a variable name
from a variable?
I am trying to create a variable called "abcStatus"
x=abc
$xStatus=xyz
obviously doesn't work. What am I doing wrong?
Many thanks,
-T
On 06/06/2014 09:09 PM, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote:
x=abc
eval ${x}Status=xyz
echo $abcStatus
- Pat
Hi Pat,
Wow. I would have never figured that out on my own.
Thank you!
Follow on question: this works, but I would like
to clean it up:
xx=ech
eval "$xx""o abc"
abc
-T
How do I echo the variable?
echo $(eval "${x}Status")
isn't working
--
~~
Computers are like air conditioners.
They malfunction when you open windows
~~
Re: need bash variable syntax help
eval variable="${x}Status"
echo ${!variable}
Brandon Vincent
Re: need bash variable syntax help
I think this is probably an X-Y problem.
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem
Something missing is a description what the OP is trying to accomplish.
At least in shell scripts, every time I've thought I needed to declare a
variable name dynamically it turned out I was missing a better solution
somewhere. (In the case of metaprogramming I've never found Bash to be the
right tool.)
On Saturday 07 June 2014 04:41:14 Brandon Vincent wrote:
> eval variable="${x}Status"
> echo ${!variable}
>
> Brandon Vincent
Re: need bash variable syntax help
As zxq9 mentioned, there is probably a better way to do this. Honestly, the examples with eval should not be used. Here is the article I was looking for: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/048 Brandon Vincent
