Re: Installing modules into Software Collections Python27 on SL7.1

2016-01-30 Thread James M. Pulver


Well, and it looks like I may have been wasting my time anyway as I mis-read 
the notice in the program I was using, which is it needs Python 2.7.9 not 
2.7.8...


James Pulver


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Subject: Installing modules into Software Collections Python27 on SL7.1


Can anyone provide me some assistance in how I ought to install cheetah to 
python27 SCL?

http://www.cheetahtemplate.org/docs/users_guide_html_multipage/gettingStarted.install.html

sadly while there is a cheetah package for SL7, there's isn't a 
python27-cheetah rpm I can find.

Seems to be about it for the actual software. I've tried pointing at:

scl enable python27 bash

python setup.py install --prefix /opt/rh/python27/root


but cheetah test fails. I've tried just doing the python setup.py install but 
that munges the RPM installed cheetah for system python.


Any help would be appreciated.


--

James Pulver


Problem with GnuCash after recent Scientific Linux 7.1 updates

2016-01-30 Thread James M. Pulver
Every time I try and start it, I get

gnucash: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib64/libwebkitgtk-1.0.so.0: undefined 
symbol: _gst_tag_list_type


The GnuCash IRC helped me to figure out that it seems to be an issue with some 
dependencies not being filled for the package that provides that file?


Any ideas how to resolve this? I've installed gnucash from EPEL-Testing now to 
get the latest version, but had this same problem with the version I had used 
successfully before from Nux.


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James Pulver


Installing modules into Software Collections Python27 on SL7.1

2016-01-30 Thread James M. Pulver
Can anyone provide me some assistance in how I ought to install cheetah to 
python27 SCL?

http://www.cheetahtemplate.org/docs/users_guide_html_multipage/gettingStarted.install.html

sadly while there is a cheetah package for SL7, there's isn't a 
python27-cheetah rpm I can find.

Seems to be about it for the actual software. I've tried pointing at:

scl enable python27 bash

python setup.py install --prefix /opt/rh/python27/root


but cheetah test fails. I've tried just doing the python setup.py install but 
that munges the RPM installed cheetah for system python.


Any help would be appreciated.


--

James Pulver


SL6 to SL7 transition guides?

2016-01-30 Thread Keith Lofstrom
Is there a transition guide from 4,5,6 distros to 7 distros?
Something like "if you used to do XXX with init, this is
how to do XXXd with systemd", for all the bits of the distro
that made large behavioral changes with RHEL7/CENTOS7/SL7 ?

The transition from SL6x to SL7x is challenging for those of
us who set up our Linux environments with init, Gnome2, etc.
years ago and copied them mostly intact from distro to distro
(and turned off selinux, which was easier than learning it). 

I accept that with SL7 I must learn systemd, selinux, new
versions of applications such as firefox, evince instead of
acrobat, and how to compile and maintain mate because gnome3
designers favor glitz over preserving procedural workflows. 

The sparse documentation I've seen explains RHEL7 in terms
of itself, not in terms of transitions, especially for
applications added by customers on top of the distro.
The libraries changed also, so I will be porting,
rewriting, even abandoning some of those applications.
As much work as this is, it is better to do it now, 
before more applications are added.

So - are there any documents, useful magazine articles,
websites, that make the transition less difficult, that
explain how to redesign procedures and port applications?

Keith

P.S. Getting angry and vengeful is tempting but not
productive.  Decades ago I worked for Tektronix, when the
flagship 7000 series of oscilloscopes was replaced by the
new and very different 11000 series.  Sales of both series
plunged when customers realized that Tektronix would not
support their workflows in the future, and bought predictable
lab and production instrumentation elsewhere.  I wonder if a
similar sales plunge is happening at Redhat now?  I had such
hopes for Ubuntu/Canonical, but they have the same disease.

-- 
Keith Lofstrom  kei...@keithl.com


Re: SL6 to SL7 transition guides?

2016-01-30 Thread Steven Haigh
On 31/01/2016 2:52 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> Is there a transition guide from 4,5,6 distros to 7 distros?
> Something like "if you used to do XXX with init, this is
> how to do XXXd with systemd", for all the bits of the distro
> that made large behavioral changes with RHEL7/CENTOS7/SL7 ?
> 
> The transition from SL6x to SL7x is challenging for those of
> us who set up our Linux environments with init, Gnome2, etc.
> years ago and copied them mostly intact from distro to distro
> (and turned off selinux, which was easier than learning it). 

Yup. One thing you'll learn really quickly is that RH abandoned TONS of
packages to EPEL - meaning they don't have to actually support them.

A lot of things that used to be in the core repos are now not.

If you're doing desktop stuff, I don't think EL7 has it anymore - may as
well use Fedora. I use Fedora + KDE5 on my laptop and its about as good
as gnome was before the great dumbing down that made Gnome 3.

And yeah, I get told off in the official channels all the time for this,
but I still disable selinux on just about everything.

--
Steven Haigh

Email: net...@crc.id.au
Web: https://www.crc.id.au
Phone: (03) 9001 6090 - 0412 935 897




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