Re: SL7.2 Live DVDkde would not boot

2016-04-02 Thread David G . Miller
Yasha Karant  writes:

> 
> An alternative approach -- if it will work.  Suppose I purchase a 1 
> Tbyte external USB drive (typically with a NTFS partition//format, but 
> this can be changed).
> Suppose I install such a drive in the target machine that has MS Win 10 
> on the internal hard drive, and then, during the boot (secure boot 
> disabled, legacy boot enabled),
> boot from the SL 7.2 install DVD.  Could I do the full install (I am not 
> worried about partitions, etc., yet -- merely for testing purposes) to 
> the USB drive, not touching the internal harddrive,
> and, after the install, boot the machine from the external USB drive 
> (again, not touching the harddrive).  Is this feasible?  I fully 
> understand that an external USB drive machine will be "slower" than
> a properly configured SATA internal harddrive machine -- but will this work?
> 
> Yasha Karant
> 
> On 04/02/2016 02:28 PM, Chris Schanzle wrote:
> > On 04/02/2016 01:25 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
> >> Other than stating that EL 7 will not work, are there any other 
> >> suggestions? 
> >
> > Best option is to remove the drive and put your own in for testing.
> >
> > Alternatively, clone the drive with CloneZilla or if you're more 
> > comfortable, "dd | gzip -1" and muck with it to your hearts 
> > content...if you need to restore it to 'factory condition' just 
> > restore your backup.
> >
> > I do this with ANY new purchase...before turning the system on and 
> > booting it up.
> >
> 
> 
I did that for a few years with Fedora.  I still have a 400GB USB drive with
a couple of versions of Fedora on it (I "walked" forward my Fedora installs
so that I had a stable, previous version install on one set of partitions
and the latest, bleeding edge on another partition set).  I needed a newer
kernel than was shipping with SL/CentOS/RHEL at the time.  Just keep track
of which drive is which when you do the install and change your boot order
so the USB drive has priority if it's attached.

I tend to use this arrangement with my "work" laptops that come with Windows
installed by the IT department on the hard drive.  I boot the systems to
Linux on the external USB and can then escape from Windows when I feel the
need.  

I also found the Linux install on an external drive is even portable between
hardware platforms so an option is to install to the external drive from so
other hardware and just boot the problem laptop from the external drive
after you've confirmed that the installation works.

Cheers,
Dave


kmix does not open

2013-08-06 Thread g

greetings,

running:system  = Scientific Linux release 6.3 (Carbon)
installed:  audio mixer = kmix

]$ kmix -v
Qt: 4.6.2
KDE: 4.3.4 (KDE 4.3.4)
KMix: 3.5

kmix is is in the menu under Applications  Multimedia. when i click
Sound Mixer, i get a bouncing 'kmix' icon which times out

looked in the kmix handbook, /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kmix/index.docbook,
2.5. Configure operations, info presumes that kmix is running. it is not.

i ran an inet search, what i looked at was presuming kmix would run.

just what and where do i need to config kmix to get it to run?


most great full for any and all info, pointers, suggestions.

tia.

--

peace out.

in a world with out fences, who needs gates.

sl6.3 linux

tc.hago.

g
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Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Upgrade SLC5 to SLC6 ?

2013-07-23 Thread g

hello pat,

On 07/23/2013 01:17 PM, Pat Riehecky wrote:

It is not possible to upgrade from the 5x branch to the 6x branch.  A fresh
install is required.

Pat


i have to disagree with you on this issue.

iirc, my last 5x was 5.9. i first ran yum update and then ran yum upgrade,
both ran with out any problems.

my /etc/reddhat-release shows;

Scientific Linux release 6.3 (Carbon)


i did not check to insure that all packages are now at 6.3, but i would
presume that they are.


--

peace out.

in a world with out fences, who needs gates.

sl6.3 linux

tc.hago.

g
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Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] SL6x x86_64 repository broken - errors in repomd.xml

2013-04-23 Thread g

On 04/23/2013 01:45 AM, Urs Beyerle wrote:

On 04/23/2013 12:12 AM, g wrote:

[...]
i did note one thing diff between site '*SUM' files and mine. you have
7 files in list, i have 4. which accounts for shorter file size.

my files do not contain the 'Live*.iso' files listed. very strange.


The three Live Medias were just released 2 days ago.

 That's why you don't have them in your list.

thank, Urs. that explains it very well.

--

peace out.

in a world with out fences, who needs gates.

sl5.9 linux

tc. hago.

g
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Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] SL6x x86_64 repository broken - errors in repomd.xml

2013-04-22 Thread g

hello pat.

On 04/22/2013 08:13 AM, Pat Riehecky wrote:

 On 04/20/2013 05:43 AM, g wrote:




[geo@localhost sl6.4-dvd]$ ls -l
total 4292316
-rw-rw-r--. 1 geo geo329 Apr 18 06:47
-rw-rw-r--. 1 geo geo   1667 Apr 18 06:46 README
-rw-rw-r--. 1 geo geo425 Apr 18 06:47 SHA256SUM
-rw-rw-r--. 1 geo geo  207618048 Apr 18 07:33 SL-64-x86_64-2013-03-18-boot.iso
-rw-rw-r--. 1 geo geo 4187694392 Apr 19 12:08 SL-64-x86_64-2013-03-18-Install-
DVD.iso





Just ran a secondary check, the signatures look good to me:


ok. i thank you.

i did note one thing diff between site '*SUM' files and mine. you have
7 files in list, i have 4. which accounts for shorter file size.

my files do not contain the 'Live*.iso' files listed. very strange.

the 'SHA1SUM' file was pulled after running 'sha256sum' and had the
failure.

i checked time stamps [see ls -l above], and as you can see, i also
have a file  , which contains 41 byte check sums.

i do not know where   came from, it is a 'sha1sum'. i ran 'sha1sum against
files, '*boot.iso' checked ok, '*DVD.iso' failed.

very, very strange.

i will get a friend who has cable internet to pull install dvd.

i do thank you for your time.


later.
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sl5.9 linux

tc. hago.

g
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Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] SL6x x86_64 repository broken - errors in repomd.xml

2013-04-20 Thread g

hello pat.

On 04/19/2013 08:52 AM, Pat Riehecky wrote:



That's more than a little strange.


this is true.

even more so, yesterday i finished a 17 hrs download of;

  SL-64-x86_64-2013-03-18-Install-DVD.iso   18-Mar-2013 09:56   4.0G

from;

  http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6.4/x86_64/iso/

i have a dsl connection that at _start_ of telco dsl line is rated
to be 8M0. because i am at very end of line, 17,000 ft, iirc, and
i get a max of 0M78 bps, with an average of 0M68 bps. therefore
such a long download.



I've fixed it up.  I'll have to look into how they got messed up.


i know you can not fix my connection, but i would appreciate if you
would also check above page's sha256sums.


this is what i get;

[geo@localhost sl6.4-dvd]$ ls -l
total 4292316
-rw-rw-r--. 1 geo geo329 Apr 18 06:47
-rw-rw-r--. 1 geo geo   1667 Apr 18 06:46 README
-rw-rw-r--. 1 geo geo425 Apr 18 06:47 SHA256SUM
-rw-rw-r--. 1 geo geo  207618048 Apr 18 07:33 SL-64-x86_64-2013-03-18-boot.iso
-rw-rw-r--. 1 geo geo 4187694392 Apr 19 12:08 SL-64-x86_64-2013-03-18-Install-
DVD.iso
[geo@localhost sl6.4-dvd]$ sha256sum -c SHA256SUM
SL-64-x86_64-2013-03-18-boot.iso: OK
SL-64-x86_64-2013-03-18-Install-DVD.iso: FAILED
sha256sum: SL-64-x86_64-2013-03-21-Everything-DVD1.iso: No such file or 
directory
SL-64-x86_64-2013-03-21-Everything-DVD1.iso: FAILED open or read
sha256sum: SL-64-x86_64-2013-03-21-Everything-DVD2.iso: No such file or 
directory
SL-64-x86_64-2013-03-21-Everything-DVD2.iso: FAILED open or read
sha256sum: WARNING: 2 of 4 listed files could not be read
sha256sum: WARNING: 1 of 2 computed checksums did NOT match
[geo@localhost sl6.4-dvd]$ sha256sum  SL-64-x86_64-2013-03-18-Install-DVD.iso
153d36611e9dfb6cac52eb64ad3ec65c130074d936bccc788a34699e952ff6c4  SL-64-
x86_64-2013-03-18-Install-DVD.iso
[geo@localhost sl6.4-dvd]$ cat SHA256SUM
f0ccbd8cb802b489ab6a606c90f05f5d249db1cb1e0e931dbb703240b4d97d8c  SL-64-
x86_64-2013-03-18-boot.iso
233293ce1da9bad8f49c13cdb9a0b7d7b88322d083eef2e98eaca3e300520ef1  SL-64-
x86_64-2013-03-18-Install-DVD.iso
94a8d37c47e2fa1e7a69721f6491ea672dfcdaa8dc4c935e1e7aba1a911e6498 
SL-64-x86_64-2013-03-21-Everything-DVD1.iso
da8f4c95eb4f7371fbcca0e07f31d2cb92fc6b4130c405661ccec15c351ecafb 
SL-64-x86_64-2013-03-21-Everything-DVD2.iso

[geo@localhost sl6.4-dvd]$

a friend who has an 80M0 bps is pulling dvd iso for me and i really
would hate to have to tell him his efforts where not necessary. he will
not mind if sha256sum's are in err, but i am to wonder if he has same
results that i had. especially if he makes check, finds a bad check and
pulls again. :-)

thank you very much.

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tc. hago.

g
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Re: Bootable USB installer for SL6.3

2013-04-11 Thread g

On 04/11/2013 01:33 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:



(There is one caveat with running the installer from writable media -
the SL6.3 installer sometimes writes the GRUB boot loader on the USB installer
disk instead of the installation target disks - producing an unbootable
system and ruining the USB installer disk at the same time. I have
not seen the SL6.1 installer do this. Maybe one should use write-protect
capable USB flash media).


a write-protected usb would be nice. it would have to be done in a way that
it would be done at creation time. a switch would be nice, but it would have
to be a very small switch for the pny 16g0 usb memory stick that i use. :-)

as for your writing grub to the usb memory stick, how is grub installer
being called?

i installed sl 6.3 live cd to a 8g0 partition [i use sda2 for writing files
i wish to install.] and had such happen several times. after which it started 
writing to _sdb1_.


i am very curious as to what went on and why it now, so far, has started
writing grub to correct partition.

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tc. hago.

g
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Re: Thunderbird mail alert sounds -

2013-02-08 Thread g

On 02/08/2013 03:19 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:


if you did not already check your settings in about:config, i
suggest you do so to insure that settings are as desired. you
may need to create a user.js so that you have an override to
the prefs.js if they get reset with each reboot. for this
procedure, see;

   http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config
   http://kb.mozillazine.org/Modify_Thunderbird_settings

if you do not see what you want, check the 'hot links' that are
imbedded in the pages and the See also and External links at
bottom of each page.

also,,,

if you open your internet browser and log to site;

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mail_and_news_settings

then usectrl+f and enter

mail.biff

in search bar, you will find the settings for mail.biff.*.

among those settings, you will see a mail.biff setting to enable
'popups' that you may have to manually add to about:config.

again, if the settings do not 'stick', they need to be added to
the user.js.


 I've got all those settings right as verified by the method you
 suggest. They were set from the GUI, something I have done many
 times and which have always worked out of the box until I hit
 SL6.3.

i am at sl5.9. i need to add memory to move up to sl6.3. :(

what version/release does sl6.3 have for thunderbird?

 I go one step further with an add-on Tonequilla which
 allows me to have recorded voice announcements for users or
 groups via the Thunderbird mail filters, and that is what I
 really need working if I am going to continue to use this, I
 can't come running up a flight of stairs every time Thunderbird
 goes ding-dong, and it doesn't even do that now, no alert sounds
 at all.

i try to keep add-ons to a minimum and do not know about Tonequilla.

it may be a bug that it is not working with your version/release. if
so, you will need to file a 'bugzilla' report.

it would not hurt for you to join the mozilla support list;

   https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/home

mozilla also has an 'ask' page where you might find an answer;

   https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/ask

the Explore Help Topics will give some guidance for various problems.
see bottom of page Can't Find an Answer to check if anyone is using
Tonequilla to get help. or, if there is an 'authors site' for
Tonequilla on page where you pulled Tonequilla, contact them to see
if they know what problem is.

 In fact I don't remember seeing the visual notification
 come up either but I will need to verify that.

see above for 'popups'.

 I do appreciate the information about where the configuration
 actually is set though ...

you are most welcome. i wish it had been a simple answer. but then,
what is?

-- 

peace out.

tc.hago,

g
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Re: Thunderbird mail alert sounds -

2013-02-07 Thread g

On 02/06/2013 09:09 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
 I have been unable to determine why the Thunderbird message
 received sounds do not work. The same .wav files work as
 expected with aplay. This is an SL-6.3/64bit computer and
 Thunderbird 10.0.12.

 Is this problem unique to me or is there a known fix?

you sure do come up with some good questions. :)

i had never given thought to a notification alert until you brought
it up and come to find that it is set in thunderbird's about:config.

from thunderbird's main menu bar, select;

  Edit  Preferences  Advanced  General  [Config Editor]

in the about:config window's Filter: bar, enter the word;

  sound

among the Preference Name, you should see;

  mail.biff.play_sound.url

which is the location path for the .wav file to be played.

if you desire, you can add your own .wav files there, or supply
your own path for personal files. i do not suggest cat sounds. your
dogs might tear up your computer trying to get to the cat. (GBWG)

you will also see;

  mail.bif.play_sound.type

in my config, it was set 0. i changed this to 1. i now
have an alert sound played when i have email/s arrive.

if you open your internet browser and log to site;

   http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mail_and_news_settings

then use ctrl+f and enter

   mail.biff

in search bar, you will find the settings for mail.biff.*.

hope that helps you and others who want to *hear* when new email/s
arrive.

enjoy. ;)
-- 

peace out.

tc.hago,

g
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Re: mk2fs hangs at writing superblocks...

2013-01-04 Thread g

On 01/04/2013 08:58 AM, Jean-Michel Barbet wrote:
 Hello all,

 We got second hand Dell PE1950s and I am trying to install SL55/64b
 on one of them.

 I tried with Kickstart, then with a DVD and I get identical behaviour :
 The mk2fs command hangs at 90% at the writing superblocks stage.

have you considered using 'partition magic' or similar type program?

-- 

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g
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yum update error

2012-11-22 Thread g
greetings.

this is not a new error for me. problems is, i do not recall solution
i was given.

when running yum:


# yum --nogpgcheck --skip-broken update

-- Finished Dependency Resolution
testdisk-doc-6.11-3.el5.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
  -- Unresolvable requirement testdisk = 6.11-3.el5 for \
  testdisk-doc-6.11-3.el5.i386 (installed)

Skip-broken could not solve problems
Error: Missing Dependency: libntfs-3g.so.81 is needed by \
  package testdisk-6.12-1.el5.i386 (epel)
Error: Missing Dependency: libntfs-3g.so.81 is needed by \
  package 2:ntfsprogs-2011.4.12-5.el5.i386 (epel)


which repo do i need enabled for libntfs-3g.so.81 ?

tia.

-- 

peace out.

tc.hago,

g
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Re: yum update error

2012-11-22 Thread g
*posting to scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov so others may see reply*

2012/11/22 Marcin Lage marcin.l...@gmail.com

 Available Packages
 ntfs-3g.i686
 2:2011.4.12-5.el6   epel
 ntfs-3g.x86_64  2:2011.4.12-5.el6
 epel


   http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/6/
   http://pkgs.repoforge.org/rpmforge-release/ - as well.



 2012/11/22 g gel...@bellsouth.net

 greetings.

 this is not a new error for me. problems is, i do not recall solution
 i was given.

 when running yum:

 
 # yum --nogpgcheck --skip-broken update

 -- Finished Dependency Resolution
 testdisk-doc-6.11-3.el5.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
   -- Unresolvable requirement testdisk = 6.11-3.el5 for \
   testdisk-doc-6.11-3.el5.i386 (installed)
 
 Skip-broken could not solve problems
 Error: Missing Dependency: libntfs-3g.so.81 is needed by \
   package testdisk-6.12-1.el5.i386 (epel)
 Error: Missing Dependency: libntfs-3g.so.81 is needed by \
   package 2:ntfsprogs-2011.4.12-5.el5.i386 (epel)
 

 which repo do i need enabled for libntfs-3g.so.81 ?

 tia.

 --

 peace out.

 tc.hago,

 g
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Re: yum update error

2012-11-22 Thread g
*posting to scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov so others may see reply*

From: Marcin Lage marcin.l...@gmail.com

Available Packages
ntfs-3g.i6862:2011.4.12-5.el6
epel
ntfs-3g.x86_64  2:2011.4.12-5.el6
epel

2012/11/22 g gel...@bellsouth.net

 greetings.

 this is not a new error for me. problems is, i do not recall solution
 i was given.

 when running yum:

 
 # yum --nogpgcheck --skip-broken update

 -- Finished Dependency Resolution
 testdisk-doc-6.11-3.el5.i386 from installed has depsolving problems
   -- Unresolvable requirement testdisk = 6.11-3.el5 for \
   testdisk-doc-6.11-3.el5.i386 (installed)
 
 Skip-broken could not solve problems
 Error: Missing Dependency: libntfs-3g.so.81 is needed by \
   package testdisk-6.12-1.el5.i386 (epel)
 Error: Missing Dependency: libntfs-3g.so.81 is needed by \
   package 2:ntfsprogs-2011.4.12-5.el5.i386 (epel)
 

 which repo do i need enabled for libntfs-3g.so.81 ?

 tia.

 --

 peace out.

 tc.hago,

 g
 .






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Re: clock factor file

2012-10-03 Thread g

On 10/03/2012 06:45 AM, jdow wrote:
 On 2012/10/02 22:09, g wrote:
 greetings.

 in unix, there is a file, name of which i do not recall, used as a
 'clock factor' and controls the 'tick rate' for the system clock.

 is such a file used in scientific linux and what is it's name?

 tia.

 Do you mean adjtime by any chance? Unfortunately the values in its
 fields do not seem to be well defined. It is part of the initscripts
 package.
 
 {^_^}

it has been way too long that i used unix to say yes, but 'adj-time'
does not sound familiar.

there where no 'fields', as in linux's 'adj-time', only a single value
that was over 10 digits long.

as stated in orig post, it was used as a _factor_to_adjust_ the
'tick rate'. no speed up or slow down as 'adj-time' does.

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clock factor file

2012-10-02 Thread g
greetings.

in unix, there is a file, name of which i do not recall, used as a
'clock factor' and controls the 'tick rate' for the system clock.

is such a file used in scientific linux and what is it's name?

tia.

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Re: Lifecycle

2012-04-24 Thread g

On 04/24/2012 11:02 AM, zxq9 wrote:
  From a question on the Japanese mailing list:
 
 TUV is committing to a 10 year production lifecycle for 5 and 6. CentOS 
 has now reflected this on their project's lifecycle page. Scientific 
 Linux does not match this.

in a previous post from Connie Sieh;


 Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:20:13 -0500
 From: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 (Santiago) discussion mailing-list
 rhelv6-l...@redhat.com
 To: rhelv6-l...@redhat.com
 Subject: [rhelv6-list] Announcement: Red Hat Enterprise Linux Life Cycle
 Extended to Ten Years

Today Red Hat is pleased to announce that it has extended the life cycle of
Red  Hat Enterprise Linux 5, 6 and future releases from seven to 10 years,
effective immediately. This announcement is in response to the widespread
adoption of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 since its introduction in 2007, and
the increasing rate of adoption of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 since its
launch in 2010.


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**
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So I installed Linux.
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Re: Lifecycle

2012-04-24 Thread g

On 04/24/2012 03:53 PM, zxq9 wrote:


 I take that to mean that SL is similarly extended, then. I suppose the
 project page just hasn't been updated to reflect this.
-=-

i tend to presume as such.

 Thanks for finding that.
-=-

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**
The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better.
So I installed Linux.
**
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Re: Firefox 10 system wide preferences

2012-03-28 Thread g

On 03/28/2012 09:29 PM, Mark Stodola wrote:


 I'm just looking to set the default homepage for now.  Is anyone 
 successfully doing this?  Has it changed from Firefox 3.0, 3.6, and the 
 current packaged 10?
-=-

menu bar;

  Edit  Preferences  General

  Startup


 A working example and file path would be much appreciated.
-=-

your choice.

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Re: ETA for critical firefox/thunderbird updates?

2012-03-16 Thread g

On 03/16/2012 05:47 AM, Yasha Karant wrote:
 On 03/15/2012 02:57 PM, g wrote:
 On 03/15/2012 07:39 PM, Stephan Wiesand wrote:
 Dear developers,

 I hate being such a PITR, but have to ask: Is there an ETA for those
 updates? What's the problem? Yes it's 3.x -  10.x, but it has been obvious
 for weeks that this would happen eventually. CentOS got those out 24h ago.
 What about SL? Any chance we'll see rebuilds at least in
 {5,6}rolling/testing tomorrow?
 -=-

 before you go jumping into 'latest and greatest' from mozilla,
 you should check out their mailing lists and/or news groups.


 there is nothing 'great' about all the problems i am seeing
 on their list.


 
 Does the above nothing 'great' mean that the content on:
 
 http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox.html
 
 and similar URLs for other Mozilla applications, is not anything about 
 which to be concerned?  Have these security updates been backported by 
 TUV into what are nominally earlier releases of the various Mozilla 
 applications?
 
 If this is not the case, why are the security concerns not important?
 
 Yasha Karant
 


first off, you make no mention of which sl or mozilla releases you are using,
nor where you pulled them.

from your header, i see that you are using;

  Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.2)
  Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2

which you may have manually installed in sl 5.x, or you are using
sl 6.x, and it is a fnal.gov fastbugs rpm;

  firefox-10.0.1-1.el6_2.i686.rpm   24-Feb-2012 14:53
  firefox-10.0.1-1.el6_2.x86_64.rpm 24-Feb-2012 14:54
  thunderbird-10.0.1-3.el6_2.i686.rpm   24-Feb-2012 14:53
  thunderbird-10.0.1-3.el6_2.x86_64.rpm 24-Feb-2012 14:54

where as the security releases show;

  firefox-3.6.26-1.el6_2.i686.rpm   01-Feb-2012 12:01
  firefox-3.6.26-1.el6_2.x86_64.rpm 01-Feb-2012 12:01
  thunderbird-3.1.18-2.el6_2.i686.rpm   16-Feb-2012 16:09
  thunderbird-3.1.18-2.el6_2.x86_64.rpm 16-Feb-2012 16:09

the above rpms are what are shown in paths below;

  http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6x/

so, where you pulled your release, i do not know, nor would i guess.


i am running;

  Scientific Linux SL release 5.5 (Boron)

using;
  Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.26)
  Gecko/20120216 Red Hat/3.6-1.el5_7 Firefox/3.6.26
  Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20120201)


as for security updates, i am current by these notices;

} Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:00:05 -0600
} Message-Id: 201202012000.q11k05ep027...@fefmon2.fnal.gov
} To: scientific-linux-err...@fnal.gov
} Subject: Security ERRATA Critical: thunderbird on SL4.x, SL5.x i386/x86_64
} From: riehe...@fnal.gov
}
} Issue Date:  2012-02-01
} CVE Numbers: CVE-2012-0442
}  CVE-2011-3670


} Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:00:29 -0600
} Message-Id: 201202012000.q11k0tih027...@fefmon2.fnal.gov
} To: scientific-linux-err...@fnal.gov
} Subject: Security ERRATA Critical: firefox on SL4.x, SL5.x, SL6.x
}  i386/x86_64
} From: riehe...@fnal.gov
}
} Issue Date:  2012-01-31
} CVE Numbers: CVE-2012-0442
}  CVE-2011-3670
}  CVE-2012-0449
}  CVE-2012-0444
}  CVE-2011-3659

so i have little concern about security problems.


*now*, lets separate the apples from the oranges.

i said _problems_ and you bring up _security_. 2 entirely different matters
of concern.

the 'mailing list'/'news groups' that i made reference to have nothing to
do with security. they relate to operating problems and i see many problems
being posted every day.

granted most of the problems are operator related. those that are not,
stock answer is 'update to latest release'.

also, most of of the post are oos related. a few are mac related. very few
are linux related.

why this is, i do not know, other than if a linux user has a problem, he/she
have the intellect to first search for problems had by others and most likely
find a solution.

oos users do not seem to have this level of intellect and find it easier to
ask without searching. which is why oos users are just that. users.

mozilla devs are going thru a 'keeping up' phase that started after google
chrome was released and google started throwing out new releases. there
was a lot of 'traffic' about this and there has never been a good explanation
from the devs as to just why they are doing such. also, they are not fixing
a lot of the bugs in there releases until that have enough built up to put
out a new release. this is evident if you look are v/r numbers of what is
being released now compared to v/r that are in versions prior to 4.x

such practices are not found in good linux distribs, other than with fedora,
as fedora is actually a debugging distrib for redhat enterprise.

so, i maintain my statement. if you want to upgrade to 'latest and greatest',
go ahead. but do expect *problems*. if you want to deal with *problems*,
upgrade every time mozilla devs make a new release.

all in all, scientific linux is a very stable distrib

Re: ETA for critical firefox/thunderbird updates?

2012-03-15 Thread g

On 03/15/2012 07:39 PM, Stephan Wiesand wrote:
 Dear developers,

 I hate being such a PITR, but have to ask: Is there an ETA for those
 updates? What's the problem? Yes it's 3.x - 10.x, but it has been obvious
 for weeks that this would happen eventually. CentOS got those out 24h ago.
 What about SL? Any chance we'll see rebuilds at least in
 {5,6}rolling/testing tomorrow?
-=-

before you go jumping into 'latest and greatest' from mozilla,
you should check out their mailing lists and/or news groups.


there is nothing 'great' about all the problems i am seeing
on their list.


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Re: XFCE: user switching

2012-03-03 Thread g

On 03/04/2012 04:51 AM, Andrew Z wrote:
 Hello,
  how do i add switch user capability to XFCE?
  it seemed that in 4.8 (at least ubuntu team)  had to add it. But i can't
 find any solution for RH.
 it seemed that i need to have xfswitch, but found nothing in the regular
 repos.
 The closest i found is this one -

-=-

do you wish adding su to xfce or, adding to os and calling from a
command line while in an 'xfce terminal'?


switch user as a gui within xfce, i am not aware of.


switch user, aka, substitute user, aka, super user, aka, su,
is a default command, available from os, while in a terminal window.

it is run by typing at a command line prompt;

  su,enter

at keyboard, then entering

  root user password,enter

after which, you are desired user.



from a 'terminal window', read;

  man su [for terse manual]

or

  info su[full documentation]


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unsigned package -- jdk-1.6.0_31-fcs.i586.rpm

2012-03-01 Thread g
during recent update, yumex returned error;

Error checking package signatures:
 Package jdk-1.6.0_31-fcs.i586.rpm is not signed

update completed via yum --nogpgcheck update.

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Re: unsigned package -- jdk-1.6.0_31-fcs.i586.rpm

2012-03-01 Thread g


On 03/01/2012 02:31 PM, Vladimir Mosgalin wrote:
 Hi g!
 
  On 2012.03.01 at 10:34:41 +, g wrote next:
 
 during recent update, yumex returned error;

 Error checking package signatures:
  Package jdk-1.6.0_31-fcs.i586.rpm is not signed

 update completed via yum --nogpgcheck update.
 
 This package isn't part of SL system.
-=-

not true - guess again.


the jdk package was a dependency of one of the java packages shown by
yumex/yum.


repos enabled are;

  adobe-linux-i386
  elrepo
  epel
  sl-base
  sl-contrib
  sl-fastbugs
  sl-security


from yumex;

--- Package java-1.6.0-openjdk.i386 1:1.6.0.0-1.25.1.10.6.el5_8 set to be 
updated
--- Package java-1.6.0-sun-compat.i586 0:1.6.0.31-3.sl5.jpp set to be updated
--- Package jdk.i586 2000:1.6.0_31-fcs set to be updated
--- Package libsmbclient.i386 0:3.0.33-3.38.el5_8 set to be updated
--- Package samba-client.i386 0:3.0.33-3.38.el5_8 set to be updated
--- Package samba-common.i386 0:3.0.33-3.38.el5_8 set to be updated


from yum;

Updating:
 java-1.6.0-openjdk i386  1:1.6.0.0-1.25.1.10.6.el5_8sl-security   37 M
 java-1.6.0-sun-compat  i586  1.6.0.31-3.sl5.jpp sl-security   66 k
 jdki586  2000:1.6.0_31-fcs  sl-security   68 M
 libsmbclient   i386  3.0.33-3.38.el5_8  sl-security  909 k
 samba-client   i386  3.0.33-3.38.el5_8  sl-security  5.7 M
 samba-common   i386  3.0.33-3.38.el5_8  sl-security  6.7 M


you will note, in above, that jdk is shown *sl-security*.


Running Transaction
  Updating   : jdk 1/12
Unpacking JAR files...
rt.jar...
jsse.jar...
charsets.jar...
tools.jar...
localedata.jar...
plugin.jar...
javaws.jar...
deploy.jar...
  Updating   : java-1.6.0-sun-compat   2/12
  Updating   : java-1.6.0-openjdk  3/12
  Updating   : libsmbclient4/12
  Updating   : samba-common5/12
  Updating   : samba-client6/12




 Unless you have some specific requirements, generally you can use
 SL-supplied java-1.6.0-openjdk and java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel packages
 instead of package above, then you won't have this kind of problem. But
 if you are sure you strictly require Oracle Java implementation, then,
 well, either deal with it, or try checking oracle website to see if you
 are using recommended way of installing it.
-=-

seems like you are guessing again.


 (note that using nogpgcheck all the time or setting it in yum.conf is
 a really bad and dangerous practice)
-=-

very much aware and only had to use this time.

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Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] unsigned package -- jdk-1.6.0_31-fcs.i586.rpm

2012-03-01 Thread g

On 03/01/2012 03:12 PM, Pat Riehecky wrote:
 On 03/01/2012 04:34 AM, g wrote:
 during recent update, yumex returned error;

 Error checking package signatures:
   Package jdk-1.6.0_31-fcs.i586.rpm is not signed

 update completed via yum --nogpgcheck update.

 
 We are unable to sign the jdk packages, and have not done so 
 historically.  The package provider will now allow modification to the 
 package file.  Private attempts to sign the rpm have resulted in 
 packages which cannot be installed.
-=-

interesting.


 The jdk package is the only package in SL which should not be signed.
-=-

even more interesting.

this is first time that i have had signature problem.

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Re: unsigned package -- jdk-1.6.0_31-fcs.i586.rpm

2012-03-01 Thread g
hello v.

On 03/01/2012 07:45 PM, Vladimir Mosgalin wrote:


 Yes, sorry for providing wrong information.
-=-

i will take blame on this one.

actually, i errored first. i did not state release and list packages
in my first post. so, my bad.


i did have info in a text file from when update failure occurred and
did not include later when i posted.


i do thank you for reply and i will remember oracle's lacking and failure
of providing package signatures.


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Re: How does one change SL 6 boot screen font size

2012-01-14 Thread g

On 01/14/2012 06:25 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:


 I would like to modify this.

in /boot/grub/grub.conf remove or insert #  in front of rhgb add
quiet lines.

in kernel line, add at end vga=nnn followed by font size you want.

for value of 'nnn', see;

  http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes

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Re: How does one change SL 6 boot screen font size

2012-01-14 Thread g
Vladimir
On 01/14/2012 09:31 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:


 On 01/14/2012 12:10 PM, g wrote:
 On 01/14/2012 06:25 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
 

 I would like to modify this.
 in /boot/grub/grub.conf remove or insert #  in front of rhgb add
 quiet lines.

 in kernel line, add at end vga=nnn followed by font size you want.

 for value of 'nnn', see;

http://wiki.antlinux.com/pmwiki.php?n=HowTos.VgaModes

 hth.
 
 The above and similar suggestions partially addressed the issues.
 
 The modifications are to the parameters of one stanza in 
 /boot/grub/grub.conf .
 
 The vga=nnn (radix decimal value) works -- I used 771 and will 
 experiment with some other possible values (771 the decimal conversion 
 of a hexadecimal value from the URL in the above response; gaculator in 
 scientific RPN mode did the conversion with no issue).
 

 However #rhgb and #quiet does not solve the other issue.  Although 
 additional information rapidly does scroll on the boot screen, a 
 Scientific Linux 6 splash screen with a circular boldened icon section 
 that rotates still does appear,
-=-

ok. my error.

rhgb and quiet if in 'kernel' line, should removed. it they are in
'main', then remove or use # .

i did not recall all of what i have, so here is 'main' and 1st 'title';

+++

### fn=  grub.conf  built 2011.1203.2120
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
#  all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
#  root (hd1,8)
#  kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sdb8
#  initrd /initrd-version.img

#boot=/dev/sda
default=0
timeout=10
## splashimage=(hd1,8)/grub/splash.xpm.gz   *removes graphic screen*.
## hiddenmenu *allows selection of multi kernels installed*.

###
title Scientific Linux 5.5 (2.6.18-274.12.1.el5) sdb10
root (hd1,9)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-274.12.1.el5 ro root=LABEL=/12 \
  devfs=nomount resume=/dev/hdb2 acpi=force vga=794
initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18-274.12.1.el5.img

+++

changing vga= will cause a change in font size. to make further
changes in font size, as Vladimir stated, font and size is set by
/etc/sysconfig/i18n and SYSFONT=.

as for scroll speed, it is fast in first part and then slows because
what is loaded at start are fast loads. if you want to get a slower
scroll, you could insert sleep 10 in startup scripts. but, that is
too many dimes for the little bit of sugar.

the only reason i have my grub.config as i do, is so i can watch for
any failures. if i see a failure, i press Scroll Lock key to hold
screen for reading, then press again to continue.

as Kevin replied, if you want to see what happened, read your logs.
if your system is crashing during boot, logs may not / will not show
when/where it happened.


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Re: Unsubscribing

2012-01-12 Thread g

On 01/12/2012 07:45 PM, Always Learning wrote:


like your pin name, 'always learning'.

this is what i received when i first joined Scientific Linux email lists.

note second paragraph.

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Re: Unsubscribing

2012-01-12 Thread g

On 01/12/2012 09:45 PM, Always Learning wrote:
 On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 21:31 +, g wrote:

 like your pin name, 'always learning'.

 Hopefully until the minute I die, I will continue to learn new things.
-=-

may you be so blessed.


 How does that help me understand the apparent contradiction in the
 list's emails added headers and the 5.1.1 SMTP rejection message ?
-=-

actually, it does not.

i sent you what i did to help you to unsubscribe, not explain why you
had problems with what is in header.

if you are unsubscribing, what diff does it make? ;)

just joking. it is a good question that only the sl maintainers and
sl list maintainers can answer.


 Is the text in the headers correct, half-correct, a little correct or
 wrong ?
-=-

if it does not work and you are still subscribed, then i would say that
it is 'all the way' wrong.

 Best regards,
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to you also.

 Still Learning !
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Re: yum and yumex: problem installing packages

2011-12-26 Thread g

On 12/26/2011 05:33 AM, Steven J. Yellin wrote:
  I don't know how to select a particular mirror, and still don't see 
 why what you did doesn't force installation of ntfs-3g.  Perhaps ntfs-3g 
 isn't being installed because yum decides there's a good enough version of 
 ntfs-3g already installed.  'rpm -q ntfs-3g' should show whether the 
 package is already installed.
-=-

]$ rpm -q ntfs-3g
package ntfs-3g is not installed


 If it is, try removing it.  Or maybe you
 have an incorrect version of a yum-related package.  Here's what I get 
 from 'rpm -qa|grep yum':
 
 yum-3.2.22-37.sl.noarch
 yum-utils-1.1.16-16.el5.noarch
 yum-autoupdate-1.1-2.SL.noarch
 yum-changelog-1.1.16-16.el5.noarch
 yum-priorities-1.1.16-16.el5.noarch
 yum-fastestmirror-1.1.16-16.el5.noarch
 yum-downloadonly-1.1.16-16.el5.noarch
 yum-metadata-parser-1.1.2-3.el5.i386
 yum-allowdowngrade-1.1.16-14.sl5.1.noarch
 yum-conf-5x-1-9.SL.noarch
 yum-protectbase-1.1.16-16.el5.noarch
-=-


]$ rpm -qa|grep yum|sort
yum-3.2.22-26.sl
yum-aliases-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-allowdowngrade-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-autoupdate-1-1.SL
yum-changelog-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-conf-55-1.SL
yum-conf-epel-5-1
yum-cron-0.6-3.el5
yum-downloadonly-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-fastestmirror-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-filter-data-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-keys-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-kmod-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-list-data-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-merge-conf-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-metadata-parser-1.1.2-3.el5
yum-priorities-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-protectbase-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-protect-packages-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-refresh-updatesd-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-rhn-plugin-0.5.4-15.el5
yum-security-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-tmprepo-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-tsflags-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-updateonboot-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-updatesd-0.9-2.sl
yum-upgrade-helper-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-utils-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-verify-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yum-versionlock-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
yumex-2.0.3-1.0.el5
]$

which show an interesting yum difference.

you have i have
 sl5  sl5.1.
 yum-3.2.22-37.sl.noarch  yum-3.2.22-26.sl
 yum-utils-1.1.16-16.el5.noarch   yum-utils-1.1.16-14.sl5.1
 yum-conf-5x-1-9.SL.noarchyum-conf-55-1.SL
  yum-conf-epel-5-1

are you running a test/rolling release?

-=-=-=-

after playing for a long while, i decided to erase old testdisk
to see what would happen.

-+-+-
yum -y install ntfs-3g

 Installing:
   ntfs-3g   i386   2:2011.4.12-5.el5   epel   319 k

 Installed:
  ntfs-3g.i386 2:2011.4.12-5.el5
-+-+-
yum -y install testdisk

  Installing:
testdisk  i386  6.12-1.el5   epel   531 k

  Installed:
testdisk.i386 0:6.12-1.el5
-+-+-

so, all seems well again. i hope. :-)

as for why all the problems before, they are now behind and i will
not wonder as to why. will be interesting to see how it goes when
they update. tho i hope to be in  6.x before then. 8-D


i thank you very much for your time, help and advise.


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Re: yum and yumex: problem installing packages

2011-12-26 Thread g

On 12/27/2011 04:31 AM, Steven J. Yellin wrote:
 I use the rolling version, 5x, at home.
-=-

that explains release differences.

 I'm glad you're mostly satisfied, and hope the problem doesn't
 come back again to bite you.
-=-

it was interesting getting it cleared up and a learning experience.

if i have problems when using yumex again, i will use yum to try
clearing them.

gui is nice for selectively installing packages, but it sucks for
when there are problems.

thanks again.


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Re: yum and yumex: problem installing packages

2011-12-25 Thread g
excuse delay in reply. this mess has been aggravating to no end. decided to
let it sit and come back to it.

On 12/16/2011 09:26 PM, Steven J. Yellin wrote:
  In my SL5, i386 computer, with the yum-priorities rpm installed, in
 /etc/yum.repos.d the sl-contrib repository has priority=10, the dag
 repository has priority=30, and the epel repository has no priority set.
-=-

my settings are same.


 According to
 
 http://wiki.centos.org/PackageManagement/Yum/Priorities
 
 Packages from repositories with a lower priority will never be used to
-=-

nice to know, but following such is still no help.


 So it may be safer to instead remove the priority=10 line in the
 sl-contrib repo, or just temporarily disable sl-contrib, as I previously
 suggested.
-=-

i took that even further. i removed old '2:ntfsprogs-2011.4.12-5.el5.i386'
and 'testdisk-6.12-1.el5.i386'.

it matters not where i tried to install the new packages from, i still get
same error, Missing Dependency: libntfs-3g.so.81 is needed by 


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Re: yum and yumex: problem installing packages

2011-12-25 Thread g

On 12/26/2011 03:24 AM, Steven J. Yellin wrote:
 yum --enablerepo=epel provides \*/libntfs-3g.so.81
 
 finds libntfs-3g.so.81 in epel's ntfs-3g-2011.4.12-5.el5.i386, so 
 installing ntfsprogs from epel with yum should resolve the dependency by 
 getting both it and ntfs-3g.  Indeed, with sl-contrib (and, it happens, 
 epel) disabled by default, and neither ntfsprogs nor ntfs-3g installed on 
 my SL5 i386 computer,
 
 yum --enablerepo=epel install ntfsprogs
-=-

i have epel enabled:

+++

17:53:45 : Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
17:53:45 :  * epel: mirror.unl.edu
17:53:45 :  * sl-base: ftp.scientificlinux.org
17:53:45 :  * sl-contrib: ftp.scientificlinux.org
17:53:45 :  * sl-fastbugs: ftp.scientificlinux.org
17:53:45 :  * sl-security: ftp.scientificlinux.org
17:53:56 : 140 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
17:53:56 : 0 packages excluded due to repository protections
17:53:56 : Reading version lock configuration
17:53:56 : Setup Yum : Transaction Set
17:53:57 : 0 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
17:53:57 : 0 packages excluded due to repository protections
snip
17:57:42 :  --- testdisk-6.12-1.el5.i386
17:57:42 :  Packages to update
17:57:42 :  --- 2:ntfsprogs-2011.4.12-5.el5.i386
17:57:42 : Preparing for install/remove/update
17:57:43 : -- Preparing for install
17:57:43 : -- Preparing for a full update
17:57:43 : -- Running transaction check
17:57:43 : --- Package ntfsprogs.i386 2:2011.4.12-5.el5 set to be updated
17:57:45 : -- Processing Dependency: libntfs-3g.so.81 for package: ntfsprogs
17:57:45 : --- Package testdisk.i386 0:6.12-1.el5 set to be updated
17:57:46 : -- Processing Dependency: libntfs-3g.so.81 for package: testdisk
17:58:16 : -- Finished Dependency Resolution
17:58:16 : 2:ntfsprogs-2011.4.12-5.el5.i386 from epel has depsolving problems
17:58:16 :   -- Missing Dependency: libntfs-3g.so.81 is needed by package \
   2:ntfsprogs-2011.4.12-5.el5.i386 (epel)
17:58:16 : testdisk-6.12-1.el5.i386 from epel has depsolving problems
17:58:16 :   -- Missing Dependency: libntfs-3g.so.81 is needed by package \
   testdisk-6.12-1.el5.i386 (epel)
+++

line '17:58:16' show that it is trying the epel repo mirror.


 did install both.  Maybe more details about what yum repos are enabled, 
 what you did, and what the yum output was would help explain why what you 
 tried didn't work.  Or you might be able to resolve the problem simply by 
 first installing ntfs-3g from epel.
-=-

could it be mirror problem?

is there a 'direct to' epel that i could try?


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Re: yum and yumex: problem installing packages

2011-12-16 Thread g
On 12/16/2011 08:53 AM, Steven J. Yellin wrote:
  I believe the below question
 
 would you have suggestions for these 2?

 ]$ yum resolvedep libntfs-3g.so.81
 ]# yum provides */libntfs-3g.so.81
 -=-
 
 is asking how the above commands should be changed if they don't find the 
 package containing libntfs-3g.so.81.
-=-

correct.


 The desired package turns out to be ntfs-3g in epel, where it won't be found
 by the above commands unless epel is enabled by default.  If epel is not
 enabled by default, one may still find the package with, for example,
 
 yum --enablerepo=epel resolvedep libntfs-3g.so.81
 
 To enable epel by default, edit /etc/yum.repos.d/epel.repo to have
 enabled=1 instead of enabled=0 in the [epel] section.
 
 To search all repositories in /etc/yum.repos.d,
 
 yum --enablerepo=* resolvedep libntfs-3g.so.81
-=-

in my first post, i left this in to show what repos i have enabled;


} when updating packages with yumex, errors with;
}
} 13:54:01 : Determining fastest mirrors
} 13:54:33 :  * epel: mirrors.ptd.net
} 13:54:33 :  * sl-base: ftp1.scientificlinux.org
} 13:54:33 :  * sl-contrib: ftp1.scientificlinux.org
} 13:54:33 :  * sl-fastbugs: ftp1.scientificlinux.org
} 13:54:33 :  * sl-security: ftp1.scientificlinux.org

so i already have epel repo in defaults and still do not find dep.

when i run yum as you suggest;

+++
]# yum --enablerepo=epel resolvedep libntfs-3g.so.81
Loaded plugins: aliases, changelog, downloadonly, fastestmirror, filter-data,
  : kernel-module, keys, kmod, list-data, merge-conf, priorities,
  : protect-packages, protectbase, refresh-updatesd, rhnplugin,
  : security, tmprepo, tsflags, upgrade-helper, verify, versionlock
This system is not registered with RHN.
RHN support will be disabled.
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * epel: mirrors.ptd.net
 * sl-base: ftp1.scientificlinux.org
 * sl-contrib: ftp1.scientificlinux.org
 * sl-fastbugs: ftp1.scientificlinux.org
 * sl-security: ftp1.scientificlinux.org
adobe-linux-i386 |  951 B 00:00
elrepo   | 1.9 kB 00:00
epel | 3.7 kB 00:00
sl-base  | 2.1 kB 00:00
sl-contrib   | 1.9 kB 00:00
sl-fastbugs  | 1.9 kB 00:00
sl-security  | 1.9 kB 00:00
sl-security/primary_db   | 1.3 MB 00:17
140 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
0 packages excluded due to repository protections
Reading version lock configuration
No Package Found for libntfs-3g.so.81
]#


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Re: yum and yumex: problem installing packages

2011-12-16 Thread g
On 12/16/2011 03:06 PM, g wrote:
 On 12/16/2011 08:53 AM, Steven J. Yellin wrote:

while this was on it's way, i tried;

+++

[root@argosyiayia geo-sl]# yum --enablerepo=epel resolvedep libntfs-3g.so.81
snip

No Package Found for libntfs-3g.so.81

[root@argosyiayia geo-sl]# yum --enablerepo=epel update ntfs-3g
snip

Package(s) ntfs-3g available, but not installed.
No Packages marked for Update

[root@argosyiayia geo-sl]# yum --enablerepo=epel install ntfs-3g
snip

Resolving Dependencies
Skipping filters plugin, no data
-- Running transaction check
--- Package ntfs-3g.i386 2:1.1104-3.sl5 set to be updated
-- Processing Dependency: libfuse.so.2(FUSE_2.2) for package: ntfs-3g
-- Processing Dependency: libfuse.so.2 for package: ntfs-3g
-- Processing Dependency: libfuse.so.2(FUSE_2.5) for package: ntfs-3g
-- Processing Dependency: libfuse.so.2(FUSE_2.6) for package: ntfs-3g
-- Processing Dependency: fuse for package: ntfs-3g
-- Running transaction check
--- Package fuse.i386 0:2.7.4-8.el5 set to be updated
--- Package fuse-libs.i386 0:2.7.4-8.el5 set to be updated
-- Finished Dependency Resolution
Beginning Kernel Module Plugin
Finished Kernel Module Plugin

Dependencies Resolved


 Package   Arch VersionRepository  Size

Installing:
 ntfs-3g   i386 2:1.1104-3.sl5 sl-contrib 147 k
Installing for dependencies:
 fuse  i386 2.7.4-8.el5sl-base 83 k
 fuse-libs i386 2.7.4-8.el5sl-base 72 k

Transaction Summary

Install   3 Package(s)
Upgrade   0 Package(s)

Total download size: 301 k
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
(1/3): fuse-libs-2.7.4-8.el5.i386.rpm|  72 kB 00:01
(2/3): fuse-2.7.4-8.el5.i386.rpm |  83 kB 00:01
(3/3): ntfs-3g-1.1104-3.sl5.i386.rpm | 147 kB 00:01

Total57 kB/s | 301 kB 00:05
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
  Installing : fuse-libs1/3
  Installing : fuse 2/3
  Installing : ntfs-3g  3/3
yum-updatesd not on the bus

Installed:
  ntfs-3g.i386 2:1.1104-3.sl5

Dependency Installed:
  fuse.i386 0:2.7.4-8.el5  fuse-libs.i386 0:2.7.4-8.el5

Complete!

[root@argosyiayia geo-sl]# yum update
snip

-- Running transaction check
--- Package libicu.i386 0:3.6-5.16.1 set to be updated
--- Package libpurple.i386 0:2.6.6-5.el5_7.4 set to be updated
--- Package ntfsprogs.i386 2:2011.4.12-5.el5 set to be updated
-- Processing Dependency: libntfs-3g.so.81 for package: ntfsprogs
--- Package pidgin.i386 0:2.6.6-5.el5_7.4 set to be updated
--- Package testdisk.i386 0:6.12-1.el5 set to be updated
-- Processing Dependency: libntfs-3g.so.81 for package: testdisk
-- Finished Dependency Resolution
2:ntfsprogs-2011.4.12-5.el5.i386 from epel has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libntfs-3g.so.81 is needed by package
2:ntfsprogs-2011.4.12-5.el5.i386 (epel)
testdisk-6.12-1.el5.i386 from epel has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libntfs-3g.so.81 is needed by package
testdisk-6.12-1.el5.i386 (epel)
Beginning Kernel Module Plugin
Finished Kernel Module Plugin
Error: Missing Dependency: libntfs-3g.so.81 is needed by package
testdisk-6.12-1.el5.i386 (epel)
Error: Missing Dependency: libntfs-3g.so.81 is needed by package
2:ntfsprogs-2011.4.12-5.el5.i386 (epel)
 You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
 You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
package-cleanup --dupes
rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
[root@argosyiayia geo-sl]#

+++

so now i have come back to original problem. :-(

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Re: yum and yumex: problem installing packages

2011-12-15 Thread g
On 12/15/2011 09:25 PM, Steven J. Yellin wrote:
 14:08:09 : Error checking package signatures: \
  Package jdk-1.6.0_29-fcs.i586.rpm is not signed
 
  Apparently SL has not been able to get the jdk package signed, but for 
 security yum by default requires that it be signed.  I think you should 
 try to evade that security precaution with
 
 yum --nogpgcheck update jdk java-1.6.0-sun-compat
 
 Once that update is done, the rest of them should update without problem. 
 Or just do
 
 yum --nogpgcheck update
-=-

steven,

thanks for reply.

interesting how much difference proper syntax can make. ;-)


would you have suggestions for these 2?

 ]$ yum resolvedep libntfs-3g.so.81
 ]# yum provides */libntfs-3g.so.81
-=-

i do not believe running;

  yum --skip-broken update ntfsprogs-2011.4.12-5.el5.i386 \
  testdisk-6.12-1.el5.i386

is an option.


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Re: unable to cut a DVD from iso

2011-12-10 Thread g
On 12/09/2011 06:25 PM, Todd And Margo Chester wrote:
 On 12/07/2011 02:09 PM, g wrote:


 Since I switched to Optiarc, I do not even know it they *have* a tech
 support department.  They just work.  Doesn't care what OS you are
 using either.  Usually stuff that cheap has all kinds of problems,
 but Optiarc is the exception to the rule.
 
 http://www.sony-optiarc.us/
-=-

with sony being picked for cd/dvd/blueray 'standard', they should know
how to make an inexpensive drive.

for sure they have recovered their experimenting cost by now and can
afford to build and sell drives for what they are actually worth.

the big 'screw the public' was that they had designs for dvd and double
layer before they ever released first cd drive. reason for waiting was
to recover cost by putting out cd drives and making more money.


 K3b has a lot of trouble with the door opening and closing before
 verify. Then again, this could be fix in the current version.  But,
 no RPMs, so ...
-=-

why should they worry about something that is mainly a problem with old
drives which will end up bad and replaced before they can end up solving?


 I have no idea what so ever you are speaking!  :-)
-=-

some times, i wonder if i do. other times...


 Haven't used it yet.  Got it recommended to me over on the Xfce
 mailing list.  It *looks* pretty sweet.  Just wondering if you
 had any experience with it. I am not married to k3b.  Maybe its
 RPM's are more up to date.
-=-

could be xfce users do not know about k3b. ;)

next time i run 'update', i will install it just to have a look.

i believe 'cdroaster' was name of other burner i used with mandrake.


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Re: unable to cut a DVD from iso

2011-12-07 Thread g
On 12/07/2011 06:48 PM, Todd And Margo Chester wrote:


 When cutting a CD, K3B does not wait long enough for the door
 to open and close.  But, it gets through it.  But on
 a DVD, it crashes when the DVD door closes for the verify.

 k3b does the open and close thing to flush something inside the
 writer.  This is to support bad firmware in bad drives (Plextor).
 Mine is a Optiarc, so it is a good tip to just turn the feature off.
 Thank you!
---

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i had a plextor drive. a real pain. only good thing about it is that it
stopped writing about 6 months after i bought it. when i bought it, i was
not aware of problems and why it had to open tray, just that k3b would
hang if i did not open tray.

it was a low write speed, so when i bought a new drive, i got a faster one,
turned off tray open, and all was ok.

it was interesting to see that some hung with out opening, while others
hung up from opening.


 Useless as long as k3b's version for EL6 is wildly out of date.
 You just get told to upgrade.  (I asked RPM Forge if they would
 generate up to date RPMs.)
---

some folks have no concept of what can be involved with updating. ;)

imbw, but i believe rpm's are built by k3b group from kde. may have
better luck going to kde.


 Have you use Brasero?
---

no. what features does it have over k3b?

as mentioned, in early days of k3b, i had minor problems that worked out
with later v/r and better burners. so i have not had need/reason to try
a different front end.

only other burner front end i have ever used is what was in mandrake. it
had a couple of nice features, but even with it, i mostly used k3b when
it was released because it was easier and quicker to use for burning .iso
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Re: unable to cut a DVD from iso

2011-12-06 Thread g
On 12/06/2011 09:55 PM, Todd And Margo Chester wrote:


 Would kvm have anything to do with this?
---

i do not use kvm, so i can not offer an answer.


 $ sha1sum ./SL-61-x86_64-2011-07-27-Everything-DVD2.iso
 0dd829f14bd32be0bb6be5feedfd97062fe45b58 
 ./SL-61-x86_64-2011-07-27-Everything-DVD2.iso
---

which shows you have a good .iso file to burn from.


 That is not the problem.  This is the problem:
 
md5sum source.iso /dev/sr0
---

this i have never tried, tho stands to reason that it should work.

now, as to '*sum' checking a burned cd/dvd, i have never had a good
check.

but, i have had cd/dvd, when booted and 'self check' was run, it return
a good check.

on fedora tsl, this has been attributed to the boot information on cd/dvd
being different from what is in iso file.


do cd/dvd that you have burned have a 'self check', or have you
gotten that far?


in finial thoughts, when you run 'md5sum source.iso /dev/sr0', are you
running that in a 'real' system or are you running it from kvm?


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Re: unable to cut a DVD from iso

2011-12-06 Thread g
On 12/06/2011 10:37 PM, Todd And Margo Chester wrote:


 Look at the md5sum of the contents of the DVD vs the ISO.
 There is an iso inside an iso!  And the second one is
 correct!   What the ...
---

iso inside an iso? are you saying that you mounted .iso as a loop
device and saw a .iso file?

or are you saying you looked at contents of dvd and saw a .iso file?

if former, no idea.

if latter, you *copied* .iso file as a file to dvd. you did not 'burn'
the the .iso file.



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Re: unable to cut a DVD from iso

2011-12-06 Thread g
On 12/06/2011 11:26 PM, Todd And Margo Chester wrote:



 I am burning the iso file inside the dvd!
---

procedure is to burn an *image*. not the file. ;)


 I get a mountable DVD with the iso I just burned inside it!
---

because you are burning file, not image.

even a blank dvd is mountable.

either a blank dvd or a dvd with an image file, or an image burned to
a dvd are mountable.

only a *burned image* is bootable.

 I tried booting off of SL61-DVD1.  It would not boot.  So, I could not
 do the self check.

if it is *iso file*, it will not boot.


 It was from the host.
---

best way.


 k3b crashes a lot when trying to do a verify.  So I have always
 just used the md5sum above.
---

if k3b is crashing a lot, i would suggest checking logs and contacting
k3b support. k3b crashing a lot is not normal.

i am currently running sl5.5 and have great results with k3b. no crashes
after burning over 20 cd's and dvd's. all have passed k3b's checking after
burning.

only failures has been with r/w that have been rewritten over about 20 times.
dropping write speed 1 level produces a good burn.


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Re: unable to cut a DVD from iso

2011-12-06 Thread g
On 12/07/2011 04:14 AM, Todd And Margo Chester wrote:
 On 12/06/2011 06:33 PM, g wrote:
 in addition, as a note of curiousness, do you have k3b configed to open
 cd/dvd drawer?

 yes.
---

i guess i could/should have gone ahead and mentioned why i was asking,
but i had other things run thru the head at time.

ria, i have not had k3b crash, but i have had an early v/r lock up when
it opened and closed tray. disabling ended lock up.


another bit of curiousness, at what point during verify does k3b crash?


k3b has their own site;

  http://www.k3b.org

which is mainly for announcing releases, fixes, downloads, and a faq;

  http://k3b.plainblack.com/faq

while their forum is at;

  http://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=153

where you may/should find a solution for problem you are having.


command line is faster way for burning .iso files and file paths, but
not as easy as k3b when you have a bunch of scattered files to burn.
[that is when arguments are passed correctly. ;-) ]


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Re: Why is CPU usage for plugin-container so high?

2011-12-01 Thread g
On 12/02/2011 12:19 AM, Yasha Karant wrote:
  From the top command :
 
 8587 ykarant   20   0  794m 449m  30m R 81.8  5.6 561:50.12 
 plugin-containe
 
 with the 81.8 being %CPU composite usage on a modern quad-core X86-64 
 machine.
 
 ps axw reveals:
 
   8587 ?Sl   562:06 /usr/lib/firefox/plugin-container 
 /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so -greomni 
 /usr/lib/firefox/omni.jar 13704 true plugin
 
 Does anyone understand why plugin-container for libflashplayer.so is 
 such a CPU usage hog?


see this link for operation of plugin-container;

  http://kb.mozillazine.org/Plugin-container_and_out-of-process_plugins

it is possible that if you have a lot of plugins, they are using up
memory, or just one is hogging memory.

if you have multi java plugins, disable them one by one to see if hogging
and you could delete old ones.

also, if you have plugins that you seldom use, disable them.

another thing you can do is disable all add-ons to see how much memory
plugin-container is using.

remember, you must restart firefox for changes to apply.

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Re: Yum Force Reinstall question

2011-11-19 Thread g
On 11/19/2011 09:13 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
 I have run across a situation in which one (or more) of the icons in the 
 gnome-icon-theme RPM have been damaged



read;

  man rpm
  man yum

  info rpm
  info yum


if you do not know what provided gnome-icon-themes, you can run

  rpm --whatprovides 'name.of.themes'

or

  yum provides 'name.of.themes'

to get package name.


running;

  yum reinstall 'icon.package.name'

should put you back.


i have never had to do such, but if my understanding is correct, above
will/should/may bring back your icons.


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Re: rsync problem?

2011-11-14 Thread g
On 11/15/2011 05:56 AM, Jon Peatfield wrote:
 For the past few days our nightly cron job to update our local site sl 
 mirror from rsync://rsync.scientificlinux.org/ has been failing with:
 
@ERROR: max connections (30) reached -- try again later
 
 are too many of us trying to fetch by rsync or should we have changed to a 
 different server at some point?

could be. maybe.

suggestions: stager cron times.

better would be to set up a local mirror.


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Re: Red Hat engineer renews attack on Windows 8-certified secure boot

2011-10-20 Thread g
On 10/20/2011 08:58 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:


 the practical issue

the practical issue is that you are posting links that have nothing
to due with intent of this list as they are off topic.

what is even more aggravating and irritating about your posting is that
you post a link and then quote that link.

please stop posting what *you think* is interesting. *it is not*.

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Re: Red Hat engineer renews attack on Windows 8-certified secure boot

2011-10-20 Thread g
On 10/21/2011 02:13 AM, jdow wrote:
 Somebody ought to complain to the CSUSB and to Verizon about his spam.

it is not truly spam, and complaining to above, as you suggest, is not
really necessary.

i will give op credit to have enough intelligence to re-frame after he
sees the post that are against his posting of such needless emails.

should he be a 'd.a.', then yes. :-)

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Re: Red Hat engineer renews attack on Windows 8-certified secure boot

2011-10-20 Thread g
On 10/21/2011 03:37 AM, jdow wrote:
 Your rant is an off topic rant, too, sir.

 Please stop it lest you issue further proof of your dysfunctional personality.

so which is worse, a rant or a slander?

think about it.

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Re: Looking for (web) searchable packages list

2011-09-14 Thread g
On 09/14/2011 11:11 AM, Frank Lanitz wrote:
 Hi folks,

 Is there any packages.scientificlinux.org or something where I can
 search for packages and its version inside the different releases? I'm
 knowing this from packages.debian.org and it was always very helpful.
---

using google advanced search set for: english, linux, 100 hits per page.;

http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=enoutput=linuxrestrict=linuxnum=100

enter in line;

  all these words:

package name

enter in line;

  Search within a site or domain:

http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/


google will respond with locations for package.


*note* if you do not have a google account, you may have to create one
to eliminate 'quick search'.


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Re: problem with hald

2011-03-10 Thread Charles G Waldman
  On 09/03/11 15:57, Steven Timm wrote:
   any reason you can't just turn hald off?  Most servers don't need it.
  
   Steve Timm

Furthermore note that HAL is deprecated and scheduled for removal ...

 - Charles


Re: SL 5.6 released?

2011-02-09 Thread g
On 02/09/2011 04:11 PM, Ewan Mac Mahon wrote:
 Hi,
 
 As far as I'm aware SL 5.6 isn't out yet - I don't think I've seen a
 release announcement, it's not on ftp.scientificlinux.org, and the web
 site front page lists 5.5 as the latest, and SL 6 was being considered a
 higher priority.

sl 5.6 is sl 5 rolling:

+++
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:30:44 -0600
 From: Troy Dawson daw...@fnal.gov
Subject: TESTING - kernel update for SL5
Sender: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
To: scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov
Message-id: 4d387144.1070...@fnal.gov

Hello,
We have had our first kernel security update following the release of SL
5.6.  We have tested it on a SL5.0 machine.  It installs, runs and
openafs works on it.  I would feel much better if others ran it to make
sure it works for them.

Can others test this kernel out on their machines to make sure it
doesn't break something we didn't expect.

I have also put the new kvm into the x86_64 testing area with the kernel.

To test or update

SL5
---

  yum --enablerepo=sl-testing update kernel\*

or you can download rpm's by hand at

http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/5rolling/testing/i386/kernel/
http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/5rolling/testing/x86_64/kernel/

kernel-2.6.18-238.1.1.el5

Thanks
Troy Dawson
+++

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Re: SL 5.5 Luks losetup

2011-02-08 Thread g
On 02/08/2011 08:48 PM, g1vrg wrote:
 Hi, I'm on SL 5.5 and have Luks encrypted partitions. Can anyone tell
 me whether the encrytption type is aes and key size please?

never used luks, but i did find this link to have some good info;

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/System_Encryption_with_LUKS_for_dm-crypt


 On another matter when trying to get losetup (cryptoloop) to work it
 returns with the error ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: invalid argument.

as above, but did recheck page and there is at above link;

# 7 Encrypting a loopback filesystem
* 7.1 Preparation and mapping
* 7.2 Encrypt using a key-file
* 7.3 Resizing the loopback filesystem


which may help, until someone knowledged replies.


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Re: SL 5.5 Luks losetup

2011-02-08 Thread g
hi ray,

i appreciate your consideration by sending post to me and cc: to
scientific linux.

but really, do you not think i wold see your post without sending to
directly to me?

or is it that you like to live up to your isp's name? :)


On 02/08/2011 10:47 PM, Ray Van Dolson ra...@bludgeon.org wrote:


 FYI, the CentOS wiki has a pretty good page on dm-crypt plus LUKS:
 
   http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/EncryptedFilesystem

may be so. but i do not have anything to do with centos, which is why
i use scientific linux. ;)

*no offense intended in part of whole of this email.*

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middle and last name. like 'rayv...@blugeon.org'.

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[OT] addressing/replying to list [thread ravel from: Re: SL 5.5 Luks losetup]

2011-02-08 Thread g
On 02/08/2011 11:48 PM, Chris Tooley wrote:


 We receive emails as CC to scientific linux and a From: original 
 sender field.  Reply to all is best, as it sends to everyone on the 
 list - especially if you have an answer, this way everyone finds out. 
 Generally I remove the To: field when I'm responding, but some people 
 might not, I wouldn't take any offense at it :)

i have been with this tsl for several years now and i understand how this
list works.

yet it is different from all of other list.

other list insert a reply-to: or they send 'from: listname'.

as it is, if a replier sends to: poster and a cc: sl, then a
subscriber is 'hammed' and 'spammed' with emails.


if list handler was set up to insert a reply-to:, which i forget to
do sometimes, it would make things a lot easier.

in respect to your reply, to reply *only* to:poster, as some subscribers,
do, does deprive rest of subscribers of knowing that post has been answered
and what answer is. also, it leads to multi replies that may not be needed.

even further, a reader could/might be of attitude,

 oh, that is an easy one to answer. poster has probably received several
  answers by now, so i do not think i will bother.

wherein, fact maybe that no one replies and poster goes without getting
any replies to his post.


i noted in your post, you sent;

  To: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
  Cc: scientific linux users scientific-linux-us...@fnal.gov

is it really necessary to send to 'owner' of users' list server?


 CentOS and Scientific Linux are both RHEL based - generally,

this i am aware of, but as you say, 'generally'.

 if you find something about packages for CentOS it's applicable to SL.

maybe.

as for offense, definitely, none taken.

i learned years ago to always consider the source. (GBWG)

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Re: kernel-debuginfo

2011-02-02 Thread g
On 02/02/2011 06:26 PM, Andreas Petzold wrote:

 where can I find the kernel-debuginfo rpms for SL? I'd like to have look at 
 the kdumps of a misbehaving machine and AFAIK, I need the kernel-debuginfo 
 packages for that.

you did not say which version, release, or, 32 or 64 bit, therefore:

for 34 hits via;

  http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/

http://www.google.com/search?num=100hl=enlr=site=linuxrestrict=linuxoutput=linuxq=%22kernel-debuginfo%22+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fftp.scientificlinux.org%2Flinux%2Fscientific%2FbtnG=Search


for 21 hits via;

  http://ftp1.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22kernel-debuginfo%22+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fftp1.scientificlinux.org%2Flinux%2Fscientific%2Fhl=ennum=100lr=ft=icr=safe=imagesbtnmeta%3Dsearch%3Dlinux=


pick which ever you need from google pages.


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Re: Disable nightly updates in SL55

2011-02-01 Thread g
On 02/02/2011 01:16 AM, Christopher Stolzenberg wrote:
 Hello,
 
 How to turn off the nightly updates?
 
 # chkconfig yum off
 # rm /etc/cron.daily/yum.cron
 # yum remove yum-autoupdate
 
 Is that correct?

not quite.

i believe it should be chkconfig yum-cron off. once turned off, i do
not believe you need the 'rm' and 'yum remove'.

running chkconfig --list|grep yum will show what you do have enabled.

whereas, on my system;

$ chkconfig --list|grep yum
yum 0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
yum-cron0:off   1:off   2:on3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
yum-updateonboot0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
yum-updatesd0:off   1:off   2:on3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
$


so you see that chkconfig yum off only gets yum, which should be off,
unless you are running a yum command.

you may want to run system-config-services to disable;

 'yum-cron' -- run yum daily via cron

 'yum-updateonboot' -- 'yum update' at boot

 'yum-updatesd' -- periodically checks for updates and send notifications

saves a lot of command line entries.


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Re: upcoming book for RH cert exams [Was: Re: Hello to everybody]

2011-01-22 Thread g
hello rday,

On 01/22/2011 10:34 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
snip

 [DISCLAIMER: i have *no* financial interest in this book, other than
 having been paid a flat fee for the reviewing.  i make nothing from
 any eventual sales.]

nothing wrong with that.

snip

 beyond the above, i won't mention any more unless someone explicitly
 asks.

ok. i am asking.

being that i am 'sold' on Scientific Linux, i have been considering
purchase of a new book on Red Hat Linux.

to get best of what is available, i am considering purchase of an exam
book, as such is usually better for deep learning.


so, to ask, what is name of new book that you reviewed?

is it shown on site yet?

ria, checking http://www.pearsoned.com/ shows nothing in 'press' and
'shop' links.

selecting 'higher ed' link, http://www.pearsonhighered.com/ appears to lean
towards courses only.

tia.

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Re: please give me the required link

2011-01-18 Thread g

On 01/18/2011 04:32 PM, Parshwa Murdia wrote:


 can one get me TORRENT link for KDE desktop version of live CD of SL
 5.5 for a single desktop PC at home.

as i told you off list, i do not believe sl5.5 live is not supplied with
kde desktop. at least, i did not find such in searching.

to install kde desktop, you must first install gnome version to harddrive.
boot from harddrive, then use yum to install kde base.

also, i told you that i was not aware of torrent site you asked about and
that you needed to ask sl tsl if there might be a closer site.


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Re: please give me the required link

2011-01-18 Thread g
On 01/18/2011 05:12 PM, Phong Nguyen wrote:
 The Live DVD includes KDE.

op is wanting live cd, not live dvd.


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Re: Problems with booting SL6: Grub hangs

2011-01-15 Thread g

On 01/15/2011 06:29 PM, Scott Nelson wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I don't think this is a problem with SL6 per se,

are you running a multi boot system?

did you have grub install to boot sector of first drive?

when grub starts your system, do you have a menu with a selection
of other installations?

do you have a live cd/dvd?


i am not with sl6 as yet, and above is some info that will help
those who are  with a solution to your problem.


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Re: [SOLVED]: Problems with booting SL6: Grub hangs

2011-01-15 Thread g

On 01/15/2011 08:47 PM, Scott Nelson wrote:


 In the grub.conf file, it had root (hd0,1) and /dev/sda2 is an LVM
 partition.  I guessed at changing my root to the same as /boot (hd0,0)
 and all is working now. I guess the kernel and the initramfs things take
 care of getting an LVM going as my root partition.

great. but interesting.

i would have thought that the installation would have seen your second
drive as your first drive and first drive as your second drive and set
up system as such. yet anaconda read them correctly and installed by
physical and not by bios boot.

good to know.

 Thanks.

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Re: unwanted connections when firefox opens

2011-01-13 Thread g

On 01/13/2011 12:00 PM, Bluejay Adametz wrote:
snip

bluejay,

thank you for reply;

 Something like:
 
 -A OUTPUT -d nnn.ip.addr.nnn -p all -j REJECT

this is true.

 added to your /etc/sysconfig/iptables file and a restart of iptables
 ought to block  access to the specified IP address.

located it with 'locate iptables' just after post of
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 01:44:27 +

 But that's just covering up the root cause.

this is most true.

after a little 'head scratching' and 'brain smoke', i did some more
checking and found that what was going on was 2 of add-ons installed
where 'calling home' to see say hello and see what was new.

please see post of Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 02:43:16 + for what
i found. as yet, i have not taken time to track down second url.

thanks again.


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Re: yum update with '/sbin/restorecon reset' message

2011-01-12 Thread g
On 01/12/2011 03:49 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:
 g wrote:
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   Updating   : java-1.6.0-sun-compat
   Updating   : selinux-policy-targeted
 /sbin/restorecon reset /etc/cups/interfaces context system_u:object_r:cup
 t:s0-system_u:object_r:cupsd_interface_t:s0
 /sbin/restorecon reset /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs context system_u:object_r:ini
 c_t:s0-system_u:object_r:nfsd_initrc_exec_t:s0
 /sbin/restorecon reset /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfslock context system_u:object_r
 _exec_t:s0-system_u:object_r:rpcd_initrc_exec_t:s0
 /sbin/restorecon reset /etc/rc.d/init.d/rpcidmapd context system_u:object
 rc_exec_t:s0-system_u:object_r:rpcd_initrc_exec_t:s0
 /sbin/restorecon reset /etc/sysconfig/iptables context system_u:object_r:
 0-system_u:object_r:etc_runtime_t:s0
   Updating   : selinux-policy-devel
snip

 ***LONG VERSION***
 To skip this, go to end of email
 
  From the selinux-policy-targeted postinstall script
 
fixfiles -C ${FILE_CONTEXT}.pre restore;
 
  From the fixfiles man page
snip

 ***SHORT VERSION***
 
 Since you have just installed a new selinux policy, it is going through 
 your system to make sure everything is labeled correctly according to 
 that policy.

thank you, troy. for 'long' and 'short'.

without 'long', i would not have picked up on another selinux command. ;)

i had read, and failed to mention, 'man' for 'restorecon', [and,
'load_policy', 'checkpolicy', 'setfiles'], which gave me insight to
what was going on. but there was no indication as to what triggered
'restorecon' to run.

now i why it occured after installing 'selinux-policy-targeted'. just
one more feature of selinux to know when any of it's files are being
updated legally and actions to take.

one more that a boy for NSA.

 Troy
 p.s. Sorry for the long explanation, but I was in the middle of 
 researching something very similar.

my apoligies for interruption. :)

i hope you found answer.


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unwanted connections when firefox opens

2011-01-12 Thread g
greetings,

for some time, i have been noticing network traffic when i open firefox.

my 'round to it' finally installed wireshark and i have found that i
have data transfers with to sites.

#1 - 72.167.239.239 = godaddy.com
#2 - 82.103.148.40  = easyspeedy.com

i have no firefox add-ons related to above and have never loaded anything
that should be causing these connections.

i tried putting name in '/etc/hosts' file to send them to '127.0.0.1',
but this did not work, so i am presuming that what ever is causing
connections is doing so by address and not by name lookup.

anyone know of above two and what i can do to eliminate them?

any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.


tia.

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Re: unwanted connections when firefox opens

2011-01-12 Thread g

On 01/13/2011 12:46 AM, Steven J. Yellin wrote:
 You can learn enough about iptables to use your firewall for blocking 
 traffic to and from those sites.  Maybe you'll then find some image you're 
 used to seeing will vanish.

i read/studied 4 good books on operations of ipchains and iptables just
after iptables came out and understand what i need to do to block ip
addresses with iptables.

problems is, i have not found any rpm packages to make modifying iptables
easy. so i am now trying to figure out just how and where iptables are
set up so that i can block addresses.

i was hoping that someone might be familiar with what has been
installed/link into firefox so that i could remove it and prevent such
from happening again.

malware, for want of a better name, usually has ability to make it's own
changes to other address blocks and then go back to doing it's dastardly
deeds.

such malware is prevalent in ms os and there are programs written for
removing such.


i thank you for taking time to reply.

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Re: unwanted connections when firefox opens [SOLVED]

2011-01-12 Thread g

On 01/13/2011 01:58 AM, Phong Nguyen wrote:
 Have you tried monitoring network traffic with iftop or netstat to determine
 what exactly is opening connections to those servers? GoDaddy also is a
 major SSL certificate authority and Firefox may be verifying a certificate
 from them.

thank you for your reply and pointers.

as it turns out, godaddy.com and easyspeedy.com are actually hosting sites
for the software for 2 add-ons that i have installed and they are checking
for updates.

82.103.140.40 is for NoScript, by InformAction, hosted by easyspeedy.com.

i have not determined what godaddy.com is hosting.


my apoligies to all for burning storage.


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Re: how to update repo list

2011-01-11 Thread g
On 01/11/2011 06:37 PM, Phil Schaffner wrote:
snip

phil,

thank you for your reply.

it got me thinking and wondering why i had changed the epel.repo list.

i could not recall why, so i replaced the newer epel.repo [2010.0918.1316]
with the 'org' epel.repo [2008.0623.2003].

i then ran # yum update and now all is back to normal

now i will run another backup and run an update.


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Re: how to update repo list

2011-01-11 Thread g

On 01/11/2011 07:02 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:
snip

 rhn (and it's libraries) are still in the plain SL because the programs 
snip

troy,

thank you for your post.

not sure how i got the RedHat repo list, surely not for 'Spacewalk',
but it is there.

as long as 'yum' knows i am not registered user, i will leave it in
in case i ever have need.

looking forward to upgrading to sl6.


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yum update with '/sbin/restorecon reset' message

2011-01-11 Thread g
greetings,


while running yum update from command line, i got several messages
stating /sbin/restorecon reset.

are these something to be of concern, or is this normal?

ria, i received no such messages in previous updates.


messages:

+++
Running Transaction
  Updating   : xdg-utils
  Updating   : selinux-policy
  Updating   : glibc-common
  Updating   : jdk
Unpacking JAR files...
rt.jar...
jsse.jar...
charsets.jar...
tools.jar...
localedata.jar...
plugin.jar...
javaws.jar...
deploy.jar...
  Updating   : java-1.6.0-sun-compat
  Updating   : selinux-policy-targeted
/sbin/restorecon reset /etc/cups/interfaces context system_u:object_r:cup
t:s0-system_u:object_r:cupsd_interface_t:s0
/sbin/restorecon reset /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs context system_u:object_r:ini
c_t:s0-system_u:object_r:nfsd_initrc_exec_t:s0
/sbin/restorecon reset /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfslock context system_u:object_r
_exec_t:s0-system_u:object_r:rpcd_initrc_exec_t:s0
/sbin/restorecon reset /etc/rc.d/init.d/rpcidmapd context system_u:object
rc_exec_t:s0-system_u:object_r:rpcd_initrc_exec_t:s0
/sbin/restorecon reset /etc/sysconfig/iptables context system_u:object_r:
0-system_u:object_r:etc_runtime_t:s0
  Updating   : selinux-policy-devel
  Installing : kernel-devel
  Installing : kernel
+++

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Re: Configuration of Screen SL 4.8 - Configuració n de pantalla

2011-01-10 Thread g

On 01/10/2011 08:03 AM, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
snip

 Many graphics cards/chips are tuned to standard resolutions
 and do not work or work well with unusual resolutions.
 I've never seen 1078x700 before - 1024x768 is the nearest
 standard resolution that I've come across.

i believe you will find *1078* falls in lcd class monitors.

because op did not specify just what his system was, is why i replied
to his post as i did.

i felt that if he wanted help and not give needed info, i would
send what i did and let him figure out rest of it.

op should have a manual showing resolutions, or at least be able to
look up monitor, be it laptop or desktop.

one day i hope to find a site listing resolutions for crt, led, lcd,
and plasma monitors and not have to search oem sites.


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Re: Configuration of Screen SL 4.8 - Configuració n de pantalla

2011-01-08 Thread g
On 01/08/2011 10:53 AM, Urs Beyerle wrote:
 On 01/08/2011 05:54 AM, g wrote:
 have you tried editing '/etc/X11.xorg.conf'?
 
 Just a small typo: xorg.conf can be found under /etc/X11/xorg.conf

tired eyes did not help much either. i read back over and edited my
reply 4 times and never caught that.

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Re: Configuration of Screen SL 4.8 - Configuració n de pantalla

2011-01-07 Thread g
On 01/08/2011 04:12 AM, Dario wrote:
 Hi all, I have a problem with the screen resolution since it only gives me
 options 800x600 and 600x480, my monitor supports good the resolution
 1078x700 but does not give me that option, even by changing the refresh
 rate.

have you tried editing '/etc/X11.xorg.conf'?

run;

  $ man xorg.conf

to see what labels are used for and what values to use.

if you already have an '/etc/X11.xorg.conf', make a backup copy before
you edit.


you can edit file manually via a terminal and

  $ su

to become 'root user', or while under a desktop, via a terminal, enter;

  $ system-config-display

and enter 'root user' password.


you do not state if you are using desktop, laptop, crt, lcd, or led.

so, here is what i have for desktop with 20 crt;


# Xorg configuration created by system-config-display

Section ServerLayout
Identifier single head configuration
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
Option  XkbModel pc105
Option  XkbLayout us+inet
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
ModelNameMonitor 1280x1024
HorizSync31.5 - 81.0
VertRefresh  50.0 - 75.0
Option  dpms
Gamma   0.85  1.00  0.90  # created by KGamma
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Videocard0
Driver  ati
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Videocard0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth 24

SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes1280x1024 1280x960 1280x800 1280x768 \
 1280x720 1152x864 1152x768 1024x768 \
 832x624 800x600 640x480 640x400
EndSubSection
EndSection



hth.


ps. i filter 'text/html' and do not track 'text/html' email folder as
often as 'text/plain'. so, to get a faster response, please post back
using 'text/plain'.

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Re: locked out of root privileges(SL5.2)?

2011-01-04 Thread g
On 01/04/2011 03:17 PM, Salvador Aguinaga wrote:
snip

 chmod: changing permissions of `.bashrc': Read-only file system

this is telling you than your system is mounting as a
Read-only file system and you can not write to a read-only system.

therefore;

1st:
boot system, check /etc/fstab to see if / drive has ro in 4th field.
read man fstab.

if fstab shows ro, boot a live cd/dvd or install cd/dvd in rescue mode and
select mounting of drive(s). in command line, change to mounted drive and
'etc' directory, edit fstab to change ro to rw.

2nd:
boot system without graphics to show boot process. that is, press tab key
at 1st start of boot to get boot menu. read instructions at bottom of menu.

press e to edit, select kernel line and press e. then left arrow to
words rhgb and quiet and delete them. press enter when done.

press b to boot and watch text for line welcome to scientific linux. in
following lines, you will see mounting of drive(s). watch for errors.

if you see errors and drive is being mounted 'read-only', press
ctrl_alt_delete to break out of boot.

boot a live cd/dvd or install cd/dvd in rescue mode. with drive unmounted,
run fsck to check disk.
___

not to 'put you off', but a good place to search for linux help is;

http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=enoutput=linuxrestrict=linuxnum=100

in example, at line reading 'this exact wording or phrase:', entering;
  Read-only+file+system
will produce 7,970 hits, as such;

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Read-only%2Bfile%2Bsystem%22hl=ennum=100lr=ft=icr=safe=imagesbtnmeta%3Dsearch%3Dlinux=

where you will find many more causes of a 'read-only' file systems.
___

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Re: locked out of root privileges(SL5.2)?

2011-01-04 Thread g
On 01/04/2011 05:06 PM, Salvador Aguinaga wrote:
 Thank you every one ...

you are welcome.

 I think I have enough leads to figure out this issue from here.

hope that you do.

when you find problem, please post back to list so that all may know
what solution you found.

also, instead of starting a new thread, just add [SOLVED] to end
of subject line.

thank you.


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Re: locked out of root privileges(SL5.2)?

2011-01-04 Thread g

On 01/04/2011 08:38 PM, john h outlan wrote:
 Hello evryone. I use sl6 for work as a desktop. I have to have sound. I
 get very very low sound and no userspace adjustments like pcm etc will
 change it. Its on a dell precision m6500 laptop. Love the distro so can
 anyone help me?


john,

breaking a thread with questions unrelated to thread is bad etiquette.

tho this list does not have guidelines, that i have found, you should
have a look this link to see why;

  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

it to your benefit and will greatly help you finding help.

thank you.

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[Fwd: Re: Happy New Year]

2010-12-30 Thread g

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Happy New Year
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:14:12 +0530
From: vivek chalotra vivekat...@gmail.com
Reply-To: vivekat...@gmail.com
To: g gel...@bellsouth.net
References: 861484.53167...@web94705.mail.in2.yahoo.com
4d1d5eef.6000...@bellsouth.net

I wish all the scientific linux developers and users a very happy and
prosperous new year-2011.


Vivek Chalotra
GRID Project Associate,
High Energy Physics Group,
Department of Physics  Electronics,
University of Jammu,
Jammu 180006,
INDIA.


On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 10:11 AM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 On 12/31/2010 04:19 AM, suhaiL khan wrote:
  I wish all the members of the scientific community a very pleasant and
  professional New Year. May you reach higher heights in your quests in the
  coming year.
  Best Wishes
  HAPPY 2011
  suhail

 and many more to you and rest of the Scientific Linux user.

 especially to the great group of maintainers.

 thank you all.

 --

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 tc.hago,

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Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] sl linux 6 alpha

2010-11-29 Thread Martes G Wigglesworth

On 11/28/2010 10:10 AM, Bert Barten wrote:

I have installed sl linux 6 alpha. When I tried to open firefox nothing
happened. Also I have updated the program noting happened!!! What can be
the
reason?

Did you run firefox from command line?
What happens there?
If firefox fails it should spit something out at the command line, 
however, you have not referenced any command line output so I wanted to 
know what it was, or if you had attempted to use this method as a 
troubleshooting tool, as of yet.


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Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] sl linux 6 alpha

2010-11-29 Thread Martes G Wigglesworth

On 11/29/2010 11:22 AM, bert barten wrote:

Which command must I use for firefox?

Greetings Bert.

I am referencing the use of a commandline call to firefox.
If you have used yum then something may have gone wrong with the install 
of firefox, however, if you have simply downloaded the most current 
firefox version, then a call to firefox from any shell, within a 
gui-enabled install of SL-Linux should cause it to start up, and 
messages that you usually don't see will be posted to standard output 
within that running shell.


There were some yum removal and installation commands presented earlier 
this afternoon, however, your issue seemed to be stemming from not being 
able to call firefox up, from a known install.


However, I just tried this on my fedora system and it just runs firefox 
and returns to a prompt without holding the shell session. (i.e. firefox 
is run in the background)


But this should tell you if you are able to run firefox or if it is even 
installed.


You could also run locate firefox or 'which firefox' to locate it. It 
should be in /usr/bin/firefox.


I haven't seen any new posts, so hopefully you have resolved this issue.

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Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Dell Poweredge T110 Installation

2010-10-25 Thread Martes G Wigglesworth
 I have had issues with the install media, as indicted in some posts 


that I submitted previously.

I wonder if there is a bit of a glitch in some of the install sources?

I am beyond super-neo to SL-Linux, so I am not a good person to make 
such an assumption, however the install media that I used was so outside 
the indicated installation parameters that it looked like an old 
basic-gui install, rather than what you get on fedora, or current RedHat 
EL installs.


I actually reverted to using the Security-Spin of fedora-13 for the 
development system that was intended for SL-Linux, and I have not gotten 
a chance to test the DVD-iso images that I used, via vbox, to verify my 
results. If you have another box, you can do the same, to verify that 
the installation is not system specific, in experiencing fault. (install 
vbox and install using the dvd-iso that you have burned to see if it 
still hangs while existing inside a virtuabox virtual machine.)


This is just a basic troubleshooting technique that has helped me in the 
past, when doing other development work.


A more senior SL-Linux admin will hopefully chime in and assist you further.

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Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Installation media not recognized duringinstall...

2010-10-20 Thread Martes G Wigglesworth

 On 10/19/2010 11:55 AM, Troy Dawson wrote:



Where, exactly, did you get the dvd-i386 iso?
There are many i386 DVD images relating to Scientific Linux.  Until we
know which one you are talking about, it's very hard to help.

I downloaded the dvd iso directly from the sl-linux site repository.  I 
believe that I used the primary site for download in the US, however, I 
don't actually remember which specific site I used.


I did however, download it from links on the primary site for Scientific 
Linux.


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Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Installation media not recognized duringinstall...

2010-10-20 Thread Martes G Wigglesworth

 On 10/19/2010 11:55 AM, Troy Dawson wrote:


Where, exactly, did you get the dvd-i386 iso?
There are many i386 DVD images relating to Scientific Linux.  Until we 
know which one you are talking about, it's very hard to help.


I checked my history and found this link, which was the source of the 
incident DVD image:


http://ftp1.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/55/iso/i386/dvd/SL.55.051810.DVD.i386.disc1.iso

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Re: Scientific Linux 5.4/5.5 X freezes randomly and frequently With Nvidia Quadro NVS 290

2010-10-19 Thread g
On 10/11/2010 01:18 AM, Baowei Liu wrote:
snip

 Thanks a lot, g. The problem appeared when I tried to install 3D graphic 
 libraries for a 3D graphic tool. I had the took work after I installed
 the nvidia drivers. Now I got nonveau driver back and so everything goes
 back to where I started. But still I'm happy with the freezing issue
 gone. I will worry about the 3D thing later Thanks again for your
 help.

you are welcome.

it is unfortunate that you can not get nvidia's drivers to work. seems like
nvidia has not gotten fully 'out of bed' with ms yet.

i checked my bookmarks to see what i had marked for nvidia and out of 12,
these 3 are linux and video card related.

  http://fedorasolved.org/video-solutions/nvidia-yum-kmod
  http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-nvidia.html
  http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia

they are fedora related, but may be of help. never know.

hth.


~~~
please excuse my delay in replying. i filter 'text/html' emails to a
separate folder and do not check it often and did not expect your reply
to be 'text/html', as your post was 'text/plain'.

there are many others besides myself who filter 'text/html', a lot of
whom send them to trash and never reply to 'text/html'.

in future, for your own benefit, i would suggest that when posting to
a tech support list, use 'text/plain'. it may well increase responses.
mine, for sure. ;)
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Re: Scientific Linux 5.4/5.5 X freezes randomly and frequently With Nvidia Quadro NVS 290

2010-10-10 Thread g
On 10/10/2010 03:22 PM, Baowei Liu wrote:

 I'm not sure if this is a Nvidia drivers or SL issue. But I hope I can
 find some help here I installed x86_64 SL5.4 and updated to SL5.5 on a
 Lenovo Thinkstation D20. I tried different versions of graphic drivers 
 including the latest driver I can find on nvidia website for my Nvidia 
 Quadro NVS 290 video card.

i am lucky in that i do not have an nvidia video card and from
what i have seen of problems, i will stay away from them.

from what i have seen on fedora support list, there is a consistent
problem with nvidia video cards and nvidia drivers. it is getting
better, but still not cured.

among suggestions that have worked are;

  boot level 3, start desktop with 'startx'.
  remove and reinstall 'nvidia' driver.
  use 'nouveau' drivers.

+++
a google advanced linux search:

http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=enoutput=linuxrestrict=linuxnum=100

for;

1]  nvidia Quadro+NVS+290

http://www.google.com/search?q=nvidia+%22Quadro%2BNVS%2B290%22hl=ennum=100lr=ft=icr=safe=imagesbtnmeta%3Dsearch%3Dlinux=

returns 6,410 hits.

2]  nvidia Quadro+NVS+290 +fixed

http://www.google.com/search?num=100hl=enlr=site=linuxrestrict=linuxoutput=linuxq=nvidia+%22Quadro%2BNVS%2B290%22+%2BfixedbtnG=Search

returns 15 hits.

3]  nvidia Quadro+NVS+290 +solved

http://www.google.com/search?num=100hl=enlr=site=linuxrestrict=linuxoutput=linuxq=nvidia+%22Quadro%2BNVS%2B290%22+%2BsolvedbtnG=Search

returns 37 hits.
+++

i did not check any of the hits to see what problems where, but it does show
that there is hope.

hth.

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restoring firefox 3.0.19 due to problems with 3.6.9

2010-10-02 Thread g
greetings,

i have 2 install of sl 5.4.

in this version i updated firefox from 3.0.19 to 3.6.9, which has been
nothing but problems.

in other install of 5.4, i did not allow update.

firefox runs starts slower, will not open a url when *all* kde settings
show firefox as default browser.

sites take longer to load.

in closing firefox;

1] with either 'X' in upper right, 'file  quit' or ctrl+q,
   i get a window telling me that 'fuelApplications' script is
   still running.

2] _sometimes_, maybe 20%, selecting 'continue' will close firefox
   without locking desktop.

3] selecting 'ignore' / 'close anyway', what ever it is called,
   will not.

4] using ctrl+alt+esc will close firefox

with either of above failures 1, 3, or via 4, when firefox is reopen,
i get the da window 'this is embarrassing'.

what should be embarrassing, i that authors screwed up as they did.

i know and understand security reasons for updating to 3.1.9, but with
all of problems with 3.1.9, i would rather take my chances with 3.0.19.

because i still have 3.0.19 in other install, can i simple delete
'/usr/bin/firefox' and '/usr/lib/firefox-3.1.9/*' and then copy over
old '/usr/bin/firefox' and '/usr/lib/firefox-3.0.*/*' files?

tia.

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Re: Excessive Screen Dimming with Intel HD Graphics

2010-09-27 Thread g
On 09/28/2010 02:18 AM, Luis Catane wrote:
 My machine is running on an Intel Core i3-330M Processor with Intel HD
 Graphics built-in to the chip. It's a Dell Studio 17 laptop by the
 way.  Everything
 on the screen is so dim it might as well be black.  I tried booting from
 both Ubuntu and Fedora Live CD's.  Dimming was not a problem for either of
 those distros.  I talked to some IT guy who suggested I hunt down a
 parameter called 'gamma' and adjust it.  I hope someone here can point me in
 the right direction.  I really want to give SL a try.

presuming you are using kde desktop;

click the K of menu button, under 'all applications', look for
'control center' and click on it.

in 'control center' window, click + sign next to 'peripherals' to open
then click 'display'.

center tab labeled 'monitor gamma' is where you set 'gamma'.

mine read;

  gamma: 1.00
  red:   0.85
  green: 1.00
  blue:  0.90

i also have 'save settings to XF86Config' checked.


hth.




 
 
 Cheers,
 
 
 Luis Catane
 Molecular Foundry
 LBL
 

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Re: ATI driver makes system fonts tiny

2010-09-21 Thread g
On 09/22/2010 01:47 AM, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote:
snip

 I've made a screenshot: http://pp.blast.pl/www.png/sl/sl_01.png

from appearance of firefox fonts, problem is with 'sylpheed'.

 Where to look at to make any corrections?

have you check sylpheed's 'configuration' in menu bar to see if you can
increase fonts?


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Re: ATI driver makes system fonts tiny

2010-09-21 Thread g
On 09/22/2010 02:31 AM, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote:
snip

 Yes but you are wrong.

no, i am not wrong. only in error as i was drawn by font of web page
font size and did not notice firefox chrome fonts.

as for sylpheed, i was asking a question as you did not state if you had
check for a configuration for chrome font size. tho there should, at least
in thunderbird there is, a font setting for views.

what else has small fonts?

for firefox, you can change 'chrome' by looking at
'profile/chrome/Chrome-example.css' file and follow instructions.

as for sylpheed, i can not answer as i use thunderbird for email.

if sylpheed has a chrome file for text, you may want to look at it.

 But from where?
 
 BTW. Other Linuxes have gtk2-theme-switch to change layouts and fonts.
 What to use in RHEL clones?

i would imagine same. try;

  locate gtk|grep doc | locate gtk|grep theme

to see what is available in doc files and themes.


later.

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Re: ATI driver makes system fonts tiny

2010-09-21 Thread g
On 09/22/2010 05:01 AM, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote:
snip

 But the damn small fonts are still present. They can't be changed by
 any of your suggested ways.

then i suggest that you subscribe to firefox developers list and ask
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Re: ATI driver makes system fonts tiny

2010-09-21 Thread g
On 09/22/2010 05:38 AM, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote:
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your attitude is a very prime example of your intelligence.


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Re: Problems with external monitor

2010-09-19 Thread g
On 09/19/2010 03:28 PM, Elio Fabri wrote:
snip

 Any suggestions?

from what i have seen on this and other linux tech support list, you need
to set up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file for 2 monitors.


not knowing your setup, i ran this google linux advanced search for you;

http://www.google.com/search?hl=enas_q=xorg.conf+external+monitoras_epq=sl%2B5as_oq=as_eq=num=100lr=as_filetype=ft=ias_sitesearch=as_qdr=allas_rights=as_occt=anycr=as_nlo=as_nhi=safe=imagesbtnmeta%3Dsearch%3Dlinux=

which gave 14 hits and you should find what is required.

some modifications will be needed to fit you requirements.


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Re: installing x86_64 first, then i386

2010-09-17 Thread g
On 09/17/2010 09:24 AM, Arnau Bria wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I've added a i386 repo to my x86_64 nodes and I'm seeing that, when
 installing the node, yum sometimes installs many i386 packages and
 sometimes not.
 So, I'd like to set yum to install always x86_64 and then i386 (if
 needed or specified).

i am not totally sure about this, but after going thru a lot of problems
with fedora 12 and 'repos', this may be reasonable answer.

you need to structure your 'sl.repo.local' or what ever you call it to
have structure similar to what standard 'sl.repo' has.

  baseurl=http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/54/$basearch/SL

for your local repos;

  baseurl=http://path.to.local/linux/scientific/54/$basearch/SL

which may/can be shortened to;

  baseurl=http://path.to.local/54/$basearch/SL

note use of 54, $basearch, SL.


you will/may need to have i386 and x86_64 rpms in their respective
directories if i386 you need is not in x86_64.

open this link in you browser and follow thru relative directories to
see how they follow, especially when you get to $basearch

  http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/

if i am in error, i am sure troy dawson or one of other maintainers will
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Re: installing x86_64 first, then i386

2010-09-17 Thread g
On 09/17/2010 01:11 PM, Arnau Bria wrote:
snip

 our local repos are SL/SLC replicas. SO they have same structure.

ok.

   baseurl=http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/54/$basearch/SL
 notice that there are some i386/noarch packages under that repo.

yes. i did look before replying and it appeared that there were a lot
more 'noarch' than 'i386'.

problems i ran into were mostly with 'noarch'.

i presume that you did insure that what you are having problems with
you do have in your local repo.


 Thanks for your reply,

i wish i could be of more help.

hopefully, troy dawson will finish his coffee and be able to help you. ;)


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Re: installing x86_64 first, then i386

2010-09-17 Thread g
On 09/17/2010 02:17 PM, Arnau Bria wrote:
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 I think he will be busy patching last kernel bug :-)

looks like troy was not that busy. :)

i just wish his reply applied to my problems. but i will try to apply it
to see what results i get.

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Re: SVG versions of SL Logo

2010-09-07 Thread g
On 09/07/2010 11:46 PM, William Shu wrote:
 Hi Troy, It would seem there is an access control problem. Unless I'm
 missing something, I get, for example, the message:
 
 Forbidden
 
 You don't have permission to access
 /linux/scientific/graphics/latest/banners/sl-banner-450x100-black.png on
 this server.


actually, all content bellow;

http://ftp1.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/graphics/

is forbidden, other than viewing content listing.


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Re: stopping dm-* modules and associated files from loading at boot

2010-09-01 Thread g
On 09/01/2010 03:17 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
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 I don't remember where I saw the description about the omit options.

ok.

 In any event, that approach apparently did not work for you.

very true.

 The unpacking/repacking method is a sure way to remove modules from
 the .img file. Your system might fail to boot but it is worth a try if
 you wish to experiment.

have never done such, but that is what i like about computers and linux.

always something new to learn.


boot failure is not a problem. i have 3 kernels loaded to fall back to.

this is a triple boot box, so i can also use 1 of other 2 to restore
old init*.img. yes, i always backup a file before fiddling. learned
that in early s100 days.

if manual removal does not work, i will probably use yum to remove raid
software.

just might be that is what i should have done to start.


again, thanks for your help.

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Re: stopping dm-* modules and associated files from loading at boot

2010-08-31 Thread g
On 08/31/2010 04:35 AM, Chris Stevens wrote:
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 Some suggestions.  First, I think that renaming the dm directory won't 
 do what you want because a modprobe -a will rebuild the dependencies 
 with the new directory names.

sounds logical.


 That's just a theory of mine that's unproven.

a good theory, but what would execute modprobe -a, other than doing so
manually?

while attempting to manually trouble shoot a problem, such as now, i would
not with out as you suggest...

 To defeat this, you would need to move that directory completely out
 /lib/modules tree.


 However, I would make sure you have a backup kernel configured that you
 can boot from if this crashes your startup.

i keep at least 3 old kernels in case of need to fall back that far.


 A less drastic measure to try would be to make a /etc/modprobe.conf file
 with something like this
 
 alias modulename off

added;

  alias dm-mem-cache.ko off
  alias dm-mod.ko off
  alias dm-log.ko off
  alias dm-region.ko off
  alias dm-messages.ko off
  alias dm-raid45.ko off

to /etc/modprobe.conf, then ran

  mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.6.18-164.11.1.el5.img 2.6.18-164.11.1.el5

rebooted, above dm-* still loaded.

 blacklist modulename

is there a difference than 'alias * off'?


 see http://wiki.xdroop.com/space/RedHat/Prevent+Module+Loading for the 
 reference of this solution.

read.


 I would think that a raid setup would need to put this stuff on the 
 initial ram disk in case raid is needed to access the boot/root 
 partitions. 

i have no raid installation.


 So a mkinitrd would probably need to be done after making 
 /etc/modprobe.conf.

which i did.


i thank you for your help.

i am open to other suggestions.

even considering using yum to remove all raid files. i would rather
leave as i may setup a raid system after next end of year.



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Re: stopping dm-* modules and associated files from loading at boot

2010-08-31 Thread g
On 08/31/2010 11:33 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
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 Are you using LVM?

no. i dislike lvm almost as much as ms bs os.

 If not, you might want to run mkinitrd with the following options:
 
 --omit-raid-modules
 --omit-lvm-modules

it had been a while from last using mkinitrd, so i read man again.
i will admit that i read right over those 2 arguments.

will try and post back in an hour. [ NCIS just started on local tv. :) ]


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Re: stopping dm-* modules and associated files from loading at boot

2010-08-31 Thread g
 On 08/31/2010 11:33 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:

thank you for reply.

snip

 Are you using LVM?
 
 no. i dislike lvm almost as much as ms bs os.
 
 If not, you might want to run mkinitrd with the following options:

 --omit-raid-modules
 --omit-lvm-modules

tried;

  # mkinitrd --omit-raid-modules --omit-lvm-modules \
/boot/initrd-2.6.18-164.11.1.el5.img 2.6.18-164.11.1.el5

dm-* modules load on boot.

added

  blacklist dm-[module names]

to modprobe.conf, 'dm-*' modules load on boot.


any further suggestions?


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Re: stopping dm-* modules and associated files from loading at boot

2010-08-31 Thread g
On 09/01/2010 05:10 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
snip

 I understand mkinitrd would not honor the options if the system sees
 certain hardware.

from where do you get this?

to my knowledge, i have in/on/around this system box to give any
indication of raid.


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stopping dm-* modules and associated files from loading at boot

2010-08-30 Thread g
greetings,

running sl 5.4.

i have never used raid drives and i am not using raid, so i want to stop
dm-* modules and associated files from loading at boot.

i have read 'man modprobe', 'man mdadm', and understand how they work.

problem is, man pages do not tell which /etc/rc.d/rc?.d files are used
to load raid.

i did find 'mdmonitor.dnu' and 'mdmdp.dnu', but these appear to be for
monitoring raid drives.

so 2 questions;

 1] what do i need to do to stop loading raid?

 2] when ready for raid, what should i read for installation info?


tia.

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