Re: Should yum-autoupdate depend on mailx?
Am Montag, 26. September 2011, 13:25:17 schrieb Pat Riehecky: We've added mailx as a dependency since it doesn't pull in anything extra (in terms of mail system packages). It should be in fastbugs later this week. Thanks a lot! --Dennis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Should yum-autoupdate depend on mailx?
Am Montag, 19. September 2011, 18:46:25 schrieben Sie: Am Montag, 19. September 2011, 09:56:47 schrieb Pat Riehecky: Adding it shouldn't be too much work, but from the distribution side we don't want to force all our users to run a sending only mail server (or more) unless they actually want to. I might instead add a check in the script where, if sending mail doesn't look possible, it simply doesn't try to send it. That way people don't have to worry about surprise software installation on their next update. I know I'd freak out if suddenly my system is running sendmail/postfix when it wasn't before. It does not seem that mailx requires sendmail/postfix (says rpm -qR mailx). So adding the dependency should be safe. Has this info I gave been considerd? Has anything been decided on this issue, yet? --Dennis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Should yum-autoupdate depend on mailx?
On 09/26/2011 11:46 AM, Dennis Schridde wrote: Am Montag, 19. September 2011, 18:46:25 schrieben Sie: Am Montag, 19. September 2011, 09:56:47 schrieb Pat Riehecky: Adding it shouldn't be too much work, but from the distribution side we don't want to force all our users to run a sending only mail server (or more) unless they actually want to. I might instead add a check in the script where, if sending mail doesn't look possible, it simply doesn't try to send it. That way people don't have to worry about surprise software installation on their next update. I know I'd freak out if suddenly my system is running sendmail/postfix when it wasn't before. It does not seem that mailx requires sendmail/postfix (says rpm -qR mailx). So adding the dependency should be safe. Has this info I gave been considerd? Has anything been decided on this issue, yet? --Dennis Sorry about that, I thought I'd replied to this.. seems my memory is a bit off. We've added mailx as a dependency since it doesn't pull in anything extra (in terms of mail system packages). It should be in fastbugs later this week. -- Pat Riehecky Scientific Linux Developer
Re: Should yum-autoupdate depend on mailx?
Dennis Schridde writes: So it is indeed a bug? How should I progress from here? (I did not see a bugtracker on the website.) Since very few packages actually belong to SL (as opposed to TUV, who have their own bugzilla), we just say on the mailing list: Hey Connie and Pat, here's an easily fixed bug! Specifically, please add a mailx dependency to yum-autoupdate. Low tech but it works :) Reminds me of a Letterman cartoon episode, for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3y_H3SaoAYfeature=results_videoplaynext=1list=PLBE024B04B63BF3E8 -- Alec Habig, University of Minnesota Duluth Physics Dept. ha...@neutrino.d.umn.edu http://neutrino.d.umn.edu/~habig/ pgpiFpGqGEhDy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Should yum-autoupdate depend on mailx?
On 09/19/2011 08:52 AM, Alec T. Habig wrote: Dennis Schridde writes: So it is indeed a bug? How should I progress from here? (I did not see a bugtracker on the website.) Since very few packages actually belong to SL (as opposed to TUV, who have their own bugzilla), we just say on the mailing list: Hey Connie and Pat, here's an easily fixed bug! Specifically, please add a mailx dependency to yum-autoupdate. Low tech but it works :) Reminds me of a Letterman cartoon episode, for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3y_H3SaoAYfeature=results_videoplaynext=1list=PLBE024B04B63BF3E8 Adding it shouldn't be too much work, but from the distribution side we don't want to force all our users to run a sending only mail server (or more) unless they actually want to. I might instead add a check in the script where, if sending mail doesn't look possible, it simply doesn't try to send it. That way people don't have to worry about surprise software installation on their next update. I know I'd freak out if suddenly my system is running sendmail/postfix when it wasn't before. -- Pat Riehecky Scientific Linux Developer
Re: Should yum-autoupdate depend on mailx?
Am Montag, 19. September 2011, 09:56:47 schrieb Pat Riehecky: On 09/19/2011 08:52 AM, Alec T. Habig wrote: Dennis Schridde writes: So it is indeed a bug? How should I progress from here? (I did not see a bugtracker on the website.) Since very few packages actually belong to SL (as opposed to TUV, who have their own bugzilla), we just say on the mailing list: Hey Connie and Pat, here's an easily fixed bug! Specifically, please add a mailx dependency to yum-autoupdate. Low tech but it works :) Reminds me of a Letterman cartoon episode, for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3y_H3SaoAYfeature=results_videop laynext=1list=PLBE024B04B63BF3E8 Adding it shouldn't be too much work, but from the distribution side we don't want to force all our users to run a sending only mail server (or more) unless they actually want to. I might instead add a check in the script where, if sending mail doesn't look possible, it simply doesn't try to send it. That way people don't have to worry about surprise software installation on their next update. I know I'd freak out if suddenly my system is running sendmail/postfix when it wasn't before. It does not seem that mailx requires sendmail/postfix (says rpm -qR mailx). So adding the dependency should be safe. --Dennis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Should yum-autoupdate depend on mailx?
Hello!
Thank you for your reply!
The issue I meant to report was that, even though the files installed by
autoupdate-2-2.noarch use mailx, the *package* does not depend on it.
Kind regards,
Dennis
Am Freitag, 16. September 2011, 15:33:01 schrieb jdow:
Yum autoupdate sends email to root about updates performed. Perhaps
that is the reason it is looking for mailx. It uses mailx in a scripted
mode to create the messages.
{^_^}
On 2011/09/16 02:33, Dennis Schridde wrote:
Hello!
Line 211 of /etc/cron.daily/yum-autoupdate calls /bin/mail, but yum-
autoupdate-2-2.noarch does not depend on anything providing that file
(mailx-12.4-6.el6.x86_64).
This seems like a bug in dependencies, or is there a reason for this?
Kind regards,
Dennis
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Re: Should yum-autoupdate depend on mailx?
Am Samstag, 17. September 2011, 11:20:17 schrieb Alec T. Habig: Dennis Schridde writes: The issue I meant to report was that, even though the files installed by autoupdate-2-2.noarch use mailx, the *package* does not depend on it. It should have this dependency. For yum-cron we did put it in, as some people with minimal or super-secure installs didn't want to put in mailx, and then the cron jobs bombed. It's an easy tweak to the spec file. So it is indeed a bug? How should I progress from here? (I did not see a bugtracker on the website.) --Dennis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Should yum-autoupdate depend on mailx?
Hello! Line 211 of /etc/cron.daily/yum-autoupdate calls /bin/mail, but yum- autoupdate-2-2.noarch does not depend on anything providing that file (mailx-12.4-6.el6.x86_64). This seems like a bug in dependencies, or is there a reason for this? Kind regards, Dennis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Should yum-autoupdate depend on mailx?
Yum autoupdate sends email to root about updates performed. Perhaps
that is the reason it is looking for mailx. It uses mailx in a scripted
mode to create the messages.
{^_^}
On 2011/09/16 02:33, Dennis Schridde wrote:
Hello!
Line 211 of /etc/cron.daily/yum-autoupdate calls /bin/mail, but yum-
autoupdate-2-2.noarch does not depend on anything providing that file
(mailx-12.4-6.el6.x86_64).
This seems like a bug in dependencies, or is there a reason for this?
Kind regards,
Dennis
