Re: flash replacement

[Andrew Z]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Todd And Margo Chester <
toddandma...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Andrew Z > > wrote:
>>
>> David,
>>   i'm using the one from adobe. See here:
>> yum repolist
>> 
>> repo idrepo
>> name   status
>> DropboxDropbox
>> Repository  4
>> adobe-linux-x86_64 Adobe Systems
>> Incorporated  2
>>
>> installing:
>>   flash-pluginx86_6411.2.202.251-release
>> adobe-linux-x86_646.9 M
>>
>> and it's the one i'm bi%% heartlessly about.
>> can you try this one
>> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=NBO9z4Hy9rI&feature=share&**
>> list=PLB7667BC178F2658F
>> )
>> in HD full screen for say 15 minutes? Works fine when in anything
>> but full screen for me.
>>
>> AZ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:23 AM, David Sommerseth
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 14/11/12 10:58, Todd And Margo Chester wrote:
>>  > On 11/13/2012 08:57 PM, Andrew Z wrote:
>>  >> hello,
>>  >>   is there an alternative for ( lots of grumpy swearing
>> omitted ) flash
>>  >> plugin in FF? with the latest 11.2.202.251 x86 release the
>> HD videos in
>>  >> full-screen a crashing.
>>  >> [bitching on]
>>  >>   first i deal with an invasion of Avatars - "the blue
>> people" and now
>>  >> $$$ thing won't even play for longer than 4 minutes in full
>> screen
>>  >> [bitching off]
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Hi Andrew,
>>  >
>>  >Oh good.  I get to help someone for a change.
>>  >
>>  >The recent Flash player is a DISASTER.  Can't seem to get
>>  > anyone to fix it either.
>>  >
>>  >Back off to flash-plugin-11.1.102.63-0.1.**
>> el6.rf.x86_64.rpm
>>  > (or 32 bit, if that's what you are running) and turn off auto
>>  > updates.
>>  >
>>  >
>> http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el6/**en/x86_64/dag/RPMS/flash-**
>> plugin-11.1.102.63-0.1.el6.rf.**x86_64.rpm
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > # rpm -e flash-plugin
>>  > # rpm -ivh flash-plugin-11.1.102.63-0.1.**el6.rf.x86_64.rpm
>>  >
>>
>
>
> On 11/14/2012 05:50 AM, Andrew Z wrote:
>
> > Todd,
> >   same thing for me with 11.1 version - crashed in full screen after
> > maybe 1 minute. Audio continued tho %)
> > AZ
>
> Try backing off a few more revisions.  11.1.102.63 was my sweet spot.
>
> http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el6/**en/x86_64/dag/RPMS
>
> My symptoms are reversed colors (blue people) and artifacts of the
> flash item all over the screen.  I have to kill Firefox to get them to
> go away.
>
> -T
>
Todd,
 you are having Avatar moments because you ( probably) have "hardware
optimization flag set. Try right-clicking on the video and remove that
flag. at least that was the cure for me.

I bit the bullet and installed Chrome... well, i say - unorthodox interface
but the videos work HD full screen. And it even has "hardware acceleration"
flag on. But looking at 100% usage of CPU i , for some reason, skeptical..
I'll try to move down the revisions as you suggest.

Thank you
AZ

Re: flash replacement

[Todd And Margo Chester]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Andrew Z mailto:form...@gmail.com>> wrote:

David,
  i'm using the one from adobe. See here:
yum repolist

repo idrepo
name   status
DropboxDropbox
Repository  4
adobe-linux-x86_64 Adobe Systems
Incorporated  2

installing:
  flash-pluginx86_6411.2.202.251-release
adobe-linux-x86_646.9 M

and it's the one i'm bi%% heartlessly about.
can you try this one

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBO9z4Hy9rI&feature=share&list=PLB7667BC178F2658F)
in HD full screen for say 15 minutes? Works fine when in anything
but full screen for me.

AZ




On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:23 AM, David Sommerseth
mailto:sl+us...@lists.topphemmelig.net>> wrote:

On 14/11/12 10:58, Todd And Margo Chester wrote:
 > On 11/13/2012 08:57 PM, Andrew Z wrote:
 >> hello,
 >>   is there an alternative for ( lots of grumpy swearing
omitted ) flash
 >> plugin in FF? with the latest 11.2.202.251 x86 release the
HD videos in
 >> full-screen a crashing.
 >> [bitching on]
 >>   first i deal with an invasion of Avatars - "the blue
people" and now
 >> $$$ thing won't even play for longer than 4 minutes in full
screen
 >> [bitching off]
 >
 >
 > Hi Andrew,
 >
 >Oh good.  I get to help someone for a change.
 >
 >The recent Flash player is a DISASTER.  Can't seem to get
 > anyone to fix it either.
 >
 >Back off to flash-plugin-11.1.102.63-0.1.el6.rf.x86_64.rpm
 > (or 32 bit, if that's what you are running) and turn off auto
 > updates.
 >
 >

http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el6/en/x86_64/dag/RPMS/flash-plugin-11.1.102.63-0.1.el6.rf.x86_64.rpm
 >
 >
 > # rpm -e flash-plugin
 > # rpm -ivh flash-plugin-11.1.102.63-0.1.el6.rf.x86_64.rpm
 >



On 11/14/2012 05:50 AM, Andrew Z wrote:

> Todd,
>   same thing for me with 11.1 version - crashed in full screen after
> maybe 1 minute. Audio continued tho %)
> AZ

Try backing off a few more revisions.  11.1.102.63 was my sweet spot.

http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el6/en/x86_64/dag/RPMS

My symptoms are reversed colors (blue people) and artifacts of the
flash item all over the screen.  I have to kill Firefox to get them to
go away.

-T

Re: flash replacement

[Andrew Z]

right - in full screen - "kill -9" is the new pink.
but in "large viewer" - everything works fine (for me).

> .. I'll try to see if can gather some more info and get a
bugzilla report submitted to the Mozilla team.

I'm skeptical due to adobe sending all dev work to google folks.(Pepper).



On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:55 PM, David Sommerseth wrote:

> On 14/11/12 20:32, Andrew Z wrote:
> > David,
> >  we are running the same mozilla/adobe setup. Unlike you i don't have
> > anything captured in xsession-errors file.
> > If you run the same HD (720p) in the "large player" mode in youtube - it
> > (probably) won't crash.
>
> That's correct!  But I don't have a crash, I have a hard freeze, and I
> can not even escape the fullscreen mode normally and have to kill the
> xulrunner/plugin-container.  And this freeze only happens in full screen.
>
> > .. //frustration
>
> Yep! Agreed.  I'll try to see if can gather some more info and get a
> bugzilla report submitted to the Mozilla team.
>
>
> kind regards,
>
> David Sommerseth
>
>
> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:55 AM, David Sommerseth
> > mailto:da...@sommerseths.net>> wrote:
> >
> > On 14/11/12 14:44, Andrew Z wrote:
> >
> > David,
> >   i'm using the one from adobe. See here:
> > yum repolist
> > 
> > repo idrepo name
> >   status
> > DropboxDropbox Repository
> >4
> > adobe-linux-x86_64 Adobe Systems Incorporated
> >2
> >
> > installing:
> >   flash-pluginx86_6411.2.202.251-release
> >  adobe-linux-x86_646.9 M
> >
> > and it's the one i'm bi%% heartlessly about.
> > can you try this one
> > (
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?__v=NBO9z4Hy9rI&feature=share&__list=PLB7667BC178F2658F
> > <
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBO9z4Hy9rI&feature=share&list=PLB7667BC178F2658F
> >
> > <
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?__v=NBO9z4Hy9rI&feature=share&__list=PLB7667BC178F2658F
> > <
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBO9z4Hy9rI&feature=share&list=PLB7667BC178F2658F
> >>)
> >
> > in HD full screen for say 15 minutes? Works fine when in
> > anything but full
> > screen for me.
> >
> >
> > I'm using these packages:
> >
> > flash-plugin-11.2.202.251-__release.x86_64
> > firefox-10.0.10-1.el6_3.x86_64
> >
> > This is an up-to-date SL6.3 x86_64 system with sl and sl6x repos
> > enabled.
> >
> > I tested that youtube video in fullscreen and it ran without any
> > issues for about 30 minutes in 480p mode with 1920x1200 resolution.
> >  But with 720p mode, it halts completely (audio and video) on my
> > laptop within 5 minutes - but only with certain circumstances.  I
> > then found this error in
> > ~/.xsession-errors:
> >
> > WARNING: pipe error (67): Connection reset by peer: file
> >
> /builddir/build/BUILD/__xulrunner-10.0.10/mozilla-__esr10/ipc/chromium/src/chrome/__common/ipc_channel_posix.cc,
> > line 419
> >
> > Checking it with gdb, attaching to the xulrunner-2/plugin-container
> > process, I see something which looks like a locking issue - probably
> > caused buffer underflows due to network issues.
> >
> > (gdb) bt
> > #0  __lll_lock_wait () at
> > ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/__linux/x86_64/lowlevellock.S:__136
> > #1  0x7fcebdc463be in _L_lock_995 () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
> > #2  0x7fcebdc46326 in __pthread_mutex_lock
> > (mutex=0x7fcebcc0dd70) at pthread_mutex_lock.c:101
> > #3  0x003761c23f79 in PR_Lock (lock=0x7fcebcc0dd70) at
> > ../../../mozilla/nsprpub/pr/__src/pthreads/ptsynch.c:174
> > #4  0x003e12982f56 in Lock (this=0x7fcebcc1b840) at
> > ../../dist/include/mozilla/__Mutex.h:106
> > #5  Lock (this=0x7fcebcc1b840) at
> > ../../dist/include/mozilla/__Monitor.h:70
> > #6  MonitorAutoLock (this=0x7fcebcc1b840) at
> > ../../dist/include/mozilla/__Monitor.h:125
> > #7  mozilla::ipc::RPCChannel::__OnMaybeDequeueOne
> > (this=0x7fcebcc1b840) at
> >
> /usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.__10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/glue/__RPCChannel.cpp:402
> > #8  0x003e12a308b2 in MessageLoop::RunTask (this=0x7fffb048c200,
> > task=0x7fceaefae6d0) at
> >
> /usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.__10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/chromium/__src/base/message_loop.cc:318
> > #9  0x003e12a32bd6 in MessageLoop::__DeferOrRunPendingTask
> > (this=, pending_task=)
> > at
> >
> /usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.__10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/chromium/__src/base/message_loop.cc:326
> > #10 0x003e12a32fa7 in MessageLoop::DoWork (this=0x7fffb048c200)
> > at
> >
> /usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.__10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/chromium/__src/base/message_loop.cc:426
> > #11 0x003e12a4352a in
> > base::MessagePumpForUI::__RunWithDispatcher (this=0x7fcebcc300a0,
> > delegate=, dispatcher=)
> > a

Re: flash replacement

[Andrew Z]

David,
 we are running the same mozilla/adobe setup. Unlike you i don't have
anything captured in xsession-errors file.
If you run the same HD (720p) in the "large player" mode in youtube - it
(probably) won't crash.

.. //frustration


On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:55 AM, David Sommerseth wrote:

> On 14/11/12 14:44, Andrew Z wrote:
>
>> David,
>>   i'm using the one from adobe. See here:
>> yum repolist
>> 
>> repo idrepo name
>>   status
>> DropboxDropbox Repository
>>  4
>> adobe-linux-x86_64 Adobe Systems Incorporated
>>  2
>>
>> installing:
>>   flash-pluginx86_6411.2.202.251-release  adobe-linux-x86_64
>>6.9 M
>>
>> and it's the one i'm bi%% heartlessly about.
>> can you try this one
>> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=NBO9z4Hy9rI&feature=share&**
>> list=PLB7667BC178F2658F
>>  > list=PLB7667BC178F2658F
>> >)
>>
>> in HD full screen for say 15 minutes? Works fine when in anything but full
>> screen for me.
>>
>
> I'm using these packages:
>
> flash-plugin-11.2.202.251-**release.x86_64
> firefox-10.0.10-1.el6_3.x86_64
>
> This is an up-to-date SL6.3 x86_64 system with sl and sl6x repos enabled.
>
> I tested that youtube video in fullscreen and it ran without any issues
> for about 30 minutes in 480p mode with 1920x1200 resolution.  But with 720p
> mode, it halts completely (audio and video) on my laptop within 5 minutes -
> but only with certain circumstances.  I then found this error in
> ~/.xsession-errors:
>
> WARNING: pipe error (67): Connection reset by peer: file
> /builddir/build/BUILD/**xulrunner-10.0.10/mozilla-**
> esr10/ipc/chromium/src/chrome/**common/ipc_channel_posix.cc, line 419
>
> Checking it with gdb, attaching to the xulrunner-2/plugin-container
> process, I see something which looks like a locking issue - probably caused
> buffer underflows due to network issues.
>
> (gdb) bt
> #0  __lll_lock_wait () at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/**
> linux/x86_64/lowlevellock.S:**136
> #1  0x7fcebdc463be in _L_lock_995 () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
> #2  0x7fcebdc46326 in __pthread_mutex_lock (mutex=0x7fcebcc0dd70) at
> pthread_mutex_lock.c:101
> #3  0x003761c23f79 in PR_Lock (lock=0x7fcebcc0dd70) at
> ../../../mozilla/nsprpub/pr/**src/pthreads/ptsynch.c:174
> #4  0x003e12982f56 in Lock (this=0x7fcebcc1b840) at
> ../../dist/include/mozilla/**Mutex.h:106
> #5  Lock (this=0x7fcebcc1b840) at ../../dist/include/mozilla/**
> Monitor.h:70
> #6  MonitorAutoLock (this=0x7fcebcc1b840) at ../../dist/include/mozilla/**
> Monitor.h:125
> #7  mozilla::ipc::RPCChannel::**OnMaybeDequeueOne (this=0x7fcebcc1b840)
> at /usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.**10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/glue/**
> RPCChannel.cpp:402
> #8  0x003e12a308b2 in MessageLoop::RunTask (this=0x7fffb048c200,
> task=0x7fceaefae6d0) at /usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.**
> 10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/chromium/**src/base/message_loop.cc:318
> #9  0x003e12a32bd6 in MessageLoop::**DeferOrRunPendingTask
> (this=, pending_task=)
> at /usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.**10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/chromium/**
> src/base/message_loop.cc:326
> #10 0x003e12a32fa7 in MessageLoop::DoWork (this=0x7fffb048c200) at
> /usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.**10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/chromium/**
> src/base/message_loop.cc:426
> #11 0x003e12a4352a in base::MessagePumpForUI::**RunWithDispatcher
> (this=0x7fcebcc300a0, delegate=, dispatcher= optimized out>)
> at /usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.**10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/chromium/**
> src/base/message_pump_glib.cc:**199
> #12 0x003e12a30852 in RunHandler (this=) at
> /usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.**10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/chromium/**
> src/base/message_loop.cc:201
> #13 MessageLoop::Run (this=) at
> /usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.**10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/chromium/**
> src/base/message_loop.cc:175
> #14 0x003e11ff90fd in XRE_InitChildProcess (aArgc=6, aArgv= optimized out>, aProcess=)
> at /usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.**10/mozilla-esr10/toolkit/xre/**
> nsEmbedFunctions.cpp:524
> #15 0x00401314 in main (argc=7, argv=) at
> /usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.**10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/app/**
> MozillaRuntimeMain.cpp:81
> (gdb)
>
> I also noticed that if youtube could cache up more data (you know the grey
> shading in front of the red progress marker) ... This issue did not happen.
> So I'd expect there to be an issue in xulrunner, not the flash plug-in
> itself and only when there is a lag in the data stream.
>
> In 480p mode I saw buffer-underflows as well - but those times it would
> just lag for less than 0.5 second and then continue.
>
>
> kind regards,
>
> David Sommerseth
>
>
>
>  On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:23 AM, David Sommerseth
>> > > sl+users@lists.**topphemmelig.net >>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 14/11/12 10:58, Todd And Margo Chester wrote:
>>  >

Re: flash replacement

[David Sommerseth]

On 14/11/12 14:44, Andrew Z wrote:

David,
  i'm using the one from adobe. See here:
yum repolist

repo idrepo name   
status
DropboxDropbox Repository  4
adobe-linux-x86_64 Adobe Systems Incorporated  2

installing:
  flash-pluginx86_6411.2.202.251-release  adobe-linux-x86_646.9 
M

and it's the one i'm bi%% heartlessly about.
can you try this one
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBO9z4Hy9rI&feature=share&list=PLB7667BC178F2658F
)
in HD full screen for say 15 minutes? Works fine when in anything but full
screen for me.


I'm using these packages:

flash-plugin-11.2.202.251-release.x86_64
firefox-10.0.10-1.el6_3.x86_64

This is an up-to-date SL6.3 x86_64 system with sl and sl6x repos enabled.

I tested that youtube video in fullscreen and it ran without any issues for 
about 30 minutes in 480p mode with 1920x1200 resolution.  But with 720p mode, 
it halts completely (audio and video) on my laptop within 5 minutes - but only 
with certain circumstances.  I then found this error in

~/.xsession-errors:

WARNING: pipe error (67): Connection reset by peer: file 
/builddir/build/BUILD/xulrunner-10.0.10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/chromium/src/chrome/common/ipc_channel_posix.cc, 
line 419


Checking it with gdb, attaching to the xulrunner-2/plugin-container process, I 
see something which looks like a locking issue - probably caused buffer 
underflows due to network issues.


(gdb) bt
#0  __lll_lock_wait () at 
../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/lowlevellock.S:136

#1  0x7fcebdc463be in _L_lock_995 () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#2  0x7fcebdc46326 in __pthread_mutex_lock (mutex=0x7fcebcc0dd70) at 
pthread_mutex_lock.c:101
#3  0x003761c23f79 in PR_Lock (lock=0x7fcebcc0dd70) at 
../../../mozilla/nsprpub/pr/src/pthreads/ptsynch.c:174
#4  0x003e12982f56 in Lock (this=0x7fcebcc1b840) at 
../../dist/include/mozilla/Mutex.h:106

#5  Lock (this=0x7fcebcc1b840) at ../../dist/include/mozilla/Monitor.h:70
#6  MonitorAutoLock (this=0x7fcebcc1b840) at 
../../dist/include/mozilla/Monitor.h:125
#7  mozilla::ipc::RPCChannel::OnMaybeDequeueOne (this=0x7fcebcc1b840) at 
/usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/glue/RPCChannel.cpp:402
#8  0x003e12a308b2 in MessageLoop::RunTask (this=0x7fffb048c200, 
task=0x7fceaefae6d0) at 
/usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/chromium/src/base/message_loop.cc:318
#9  0x003e12a32bd6 in MessageLoop::DeferOrRunPendingTask (this=optimized out>, pending_task=)
at 
/usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/chromium/src/base/message_loop.cc:326
#10 0x003e12a32fa7 in MessageLoop::DoWork (this=0x7fffb048c200) at 
/usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/chromium/src/base/message_loop.cc:426
#11 0x003e12a4352a in base::MessagePumpForUI::RunWithDispatcher 
(this=0x7fcebcc300a0, delegate=, dispatcher=optimized out>)
at 
/usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/chromium/src/base/message_pump_glib.cc:199
#12 0x003e12a30852 in RunHandler (this=) at 
/usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/chromium/src/base/message_loop.cc:201
#13 MessageLoop::Run (this=) at 
/usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/chromium/src/base/message_loop.cc:175
#14 0x003e11ff90fd in XRE_InitChildProcess (aArgc=6, aArgv=optimized out>, aProcess=)
at 
/usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.10/mozilla-esr10/toolkit/xre/nsEmbedFunctions.cpp:524
#15 0x00401314 in main (argc=7, argv=) at 
/usr/src/debug/xulrunner-10.0.10/mozilla-esr10/ipc/app/MozillaRuntimeMain.cpp:81

(gdb)

I also noticed that if youtube could cache up more data (you know the grey 
shading in front of the red progress marker) ... This issue did not happen. 
So I'd expect there to be an issue in xulrunner, not the flash plug-in itself 
and only when there is a lag in the data stream.


In 480p mode I saw buffer-underflows as well - but those times it would just 
lag for less than 0.5 second and then continue.



kind regards,

David Sommerseth




On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:23 AM, David Sommerseth
mailto:sl+us...@lists.topphemmelig.net>> 
wrote:

On 14/11/12 10:58, Todd And Margo Chester wrote:
 > On 11/13/2012 08:57 PM, Andrew Z wrote:
 >> hello,
 >>   is there an alternative for ( lots of grumpy swearing omitted ) flash
 >> plugin in FF? with the latest 11.2.202.251 x86 release the HD videos in
 >> full-screen a crashing.
 >> [bitching on]
 >>   first i deal with an invasion of Avatars - "the blue people" and now
 >> $$$ thing won't even play for longer than 4 minutes in full screen
 >> [bitching off]
 >
 >
 > Hi Andrew,
 >
 >Oh good.  I get to help someone for a change.
 >
 >The recent Flash player is a DISASTER.  Can't seem to get
 > anyone to

Re: flash replacement

[Andrew Z]

Todd,
 same thing for me with 11.1 version - crashed in full screen after maybe 1
minute. Audio continued tho %)
AZ


On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Andrew Z  wrote:

> David,
>  i'm using the one from adobe. See here:
> yum repolist
> 
> repo idrepo name
> status
> DropboxDropbox
> Repository  4
> adobe-linux-x86_64 Adobe Systems
> Incorporated  2
>
> installing:
>  flash-pluginx86_6411.2.202.251-release  adobe-linux-x86_64
> 6.9 M
>
> and it's the one i'm bi%% heartlessly about.
> can you try this one (
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBO9z4Hy9rI&feature=share&list=PLB7667BC178F2658F)
> in HD full screen for say 15 minutes? Works fine when in anything but full
> screen for me.
>
> AZ
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:23 AM, David Sommerseth <
> sl+us...@lists.topphemmelig.net> wrote:
>
>> On 14/11/12 10:58, Todd And Margo Chester wrote:
>> > On 11/13/2012 08:57 PM, Andrew Z wrote:
>> >> hello,
>> >>   is there an alternative for ( lots of grumpy swearing omitted ) flash
>> >> plugin in FF? with the latest 11.2.202.251 x86 release the HD videos in
>> >> full-screen a crashing.
>> >> [bitching on]
>> >>   first i deal with an invasion of Avatars - "the blue people" and now
>> >> $$$ thing won't even play for longer than 4 minutes in full screen
>> >> [bitching off]
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Andrew,
>> >
>> >Oh good.  I get to help someone for a change.
>> >
>> >The recent Flash player is a DISASTER.  Can't seem to get
>> > anyone to fix it either.
>> >
>> >Back off to flash-plugin-11.1.102.63-0.1.el6.rf.x86_64.rpm
>> > (or 32 bit, if that's what you are running) and turn off auto
>> > updates.
>> >
>> >
>> http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el6/en/x86_64/dag/RPMS/flash-plugin-11.1.102.63-0.1.el6.rf.x86_64.rpm
>> >
>> >
>> > # rpm -e flash-plugin
>> > # rpm -ivh flash-plugin-11.1.102.63-0.1.el6.rf.x86_64.rpm
>> >
>>
>> Seriously, what's wrong with using the official Adobe Flash player?  I
>> see you're using one from the rpmforge/fusion repo.
>>
>> 1.  Go here: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
>> 2.  Select "YUM for Linux" and click download.
>> 3.  Install that RPM
>> 4.  as root: yum erase flash-*
>> 5.  Disable all those extra elrepo, atrpms, rpmfusion/rpmforge
>> repositories (look inside the files in /etc/yum.repos.d/ )
>> 5.  as root: yum install flash-plugin
>> 6.  Enjoy a more reliable flash.
>>
>> This way you get no 32bit nonsense on 64bit installations.  And you get
>> something which works quite more reliable.  I'm using the Adobe Flash
>> player (64bit) on a couple of my private laptops.  And I'm watching
>> fullscreen TV broadcasts in hi quality resolution (3.5Mbit/s streams)
>> scaled up to my 1920x1200 display ... and if there are issues, that's
>> been related to not getting the needed bandwidth.
>>
>> I've mostly had just troubles with those additional repos, so I only
>> enable them when it's needed.  Otherwise, SL repos + EPEL repos gives a
>> really stable and reliable systems  At least, that's been my experience.
>>
>>
>> kind regards,
>>
>> David Sommerseth
>>
>
>

Re: flash replacement

[Andrew Z]

David,
 i'm using the one from adobe. See here:
yum repolist

repo idrepo name
status
DropboxDropbox
Repository  4
adobe-linux-x86_64 Adobe Systems
Incorporated  2

installing:
 flash-pluginx86_6411.2.202.251-release  adobe-linux-x86_64
6.9 M

and it's the one i'm bi%% heartlessly about.
can you try this one (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBO9z4Hy9rI&feature=share&list=PLB7667BC178F2658F)
in HD full screen for say 15 minutes? Works fine when in anything but full
screen for me.

AZ



On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:23 AM, David Sommerseth <
sl+us...@lists.topphemmelig.net> wrote:

> On 14/11/12 10:58, Todd And Margo Chester wrote:
> > On 11/13/2012 08:57 PM, Andrew Z wrote:
> >> hello,
> >>   is there an alternative for ( lots of grumpy swearing omitted ) flash
> >> plugin in FF? with the latest 11.2.202.251 x86 release the HD videos in
> >> full-screen a crashing.
> >> [bitching on]
> >>   first i deal with an invasion of Avatars - "the blue people" and now
> >> $$$ thing won't even play for longer than 4 minutes in full screen
> >> [bitching off]
> >
> >
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> >Oh good.  I get to help someone for a change.
> >
> >The recent Flash player is a DISASTER.  Can't seem to get
> > anyone to fix it either.
> >
> >Back off to flash-plugin-11.1.102.63-0.1.el6.rf.x86_64.rpm
> > (or 32 bit, if that's what you are running) and turn off auto
> > updates.
> >
> >
> http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el6/en/x86_64/dag/RPMS/flash-plugin-11.1.102.63-0.1.el6.rf.x86_64.rpm
> >
> >
> > # rpm -e flash-plugin
> > # rpm -ivh flash-plugin-11.1.102.63-0.1.el6.rf.x86_64.rpm
> >
>
> Seriously, what's wrong with using the official Adobe Flash player?  I
> see you're using one from the rpmforge/fusion repo.
>
> 1.  Go here: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
> 2.  Select "YUM for Linux" and click download.
> 3.  Install that RPM
> 4.  as root: yum erase flash-*
> 5.  Disable all those extra elrepo, atrpms, rpmfusion/rpmforge
> repositories (look inside the files in /etc/yum.repos.d/ )
> 5.  as root: yum install flash-plugin
> 6.  Enjoy a more reliable flash.
>
> This way you get no 32bit nonsense on 64bit installations.  And you get
> something which works quite more reliable.  I'm using the Adobe Flash
> player (64bit) on a couple of my private laptops.  And I'm watching
> fullscreen TV broadcasts in hi quality resolution (3.5Mbit/s streams)
> scaled up to my 1920x1200 display ... and if there are issues, that's
> been related to not getting the needed bandwidth.
>
> I've mostly had just troubles with those additional repos, so I only
> enable them when it's needed.  Otherwise, SL repos + EPEL repos gives a
> really stable and reliable systems  At least, that's been my experience.
>
>
> kind regards,
>
> David Sommerseth
>

Re: flash replacement

[David Sommerseth]

On 14/11/12 10:58, Todd And Margo Chester wrote:
> On 11/13/2012 08:57 PM, Andrew Z wrote:
>> hello,
>>   is there an alternative for ( lots of grumpy swearing omitted ) flash
>> plugin in FF? with the latest 11.2.202.251 x86 release the HD videos in
>> full-screen a crashing.
>> [bitching on]
>>   first i deal with an invasion of Avatars - "the blue people" and now
>> $$$ thing won't even play for longer than 4 minutes in full screen
>> [bitching off]
> 
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
>Oh good.  I get to help someone for a change.
> 
>The recent Flash player is a DISASTER.  Can't seem to get
> anyone to fix it either.
> 
>Back off to flash-plugin-11.1.102.63-0.1.el6.rf.x86_64.rpm
> (or 32 bit, if that's what you are running) and turn off auto
> updates.
> 
> http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el6/en/x86_64/dag/RPMS/flash-plugin-11.1.102.63-0.1.el6.rf.x86_64.rpm
> 
> 
> # rpm -e flash-plugin
> # rpm -ivh flash-plugin-11.1.102.63-0.1.el6.rf.x86_64.rpm
> 

Seriously, what's wrong with using the official Adobe Flash player?  I
see you're using one from the rpmforge/fusion repo.

1.  Go here: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
2.  Select "YUM for Linux" and click download.
3.  Install that RPM
4.  as root: yum erase flash-*
5.  Disable all those extra elrepo, atrpms, rpmfusion/rpmforge
repositories (look inside the files in /etc/yum.repos.d/ )
5.  as root: yum install flash-plugin
6.  Enjoy a more reliable flash.

This way you get no 32bit nonsense on 64bit installations.  And you get
something which works quite more reliable.  I'm using the Adobe Flash
player (64bit) on a couple of my private laptops.  And I'm watching
fullscreen TV broadcasts in hi quality resolution (3.5Mbit/s streams)
scaled up to my 1920x1200 display ... and if there are issues, that's
been related to not getting the needed bandwidth.

I've mostly had just troubles with those additional repos, so I only
enable them when it's needed.  Otherwise, SL repos + EPEL repos gives a
really stable and reliable systems  At least, that's been my experience.


kind regards,

David Sommerseth

Re: flash replacement

[Todd And Margo Chester]

On 11/13/2012 08:57 PM, Andrew Z wrote:

hello,
  is there an alternative for ( lots of grumpy swearing omitted ) flash
plugin in FF? with the latest 11.2.202.251 x86 release the HD videos in
full-screen a crashing.
[bitching on]
  first i deal with an invasion of Avatars - "the blue people" and now
$$$ thing won't even play for longer than 4 minutes in full screen
[bitching off]



Hi Andrew,

   Oh good.  I get to help someone for a change.

   The recent Flash player is a DISASTER.  Can't seem to get
anyone to fix it either.

   Back off to flash-plugin-11.1.102.63-0.1.el6.rf.x86_64.rpm
(or 32 bit, if that's what you are running) and turn off auto
updates.

http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el6/en/x86_64/dag/RPMS/flash-plugin-11.1.102.63-0.1.el6.rf.x86_64.rpm

# rpm -e flash-plugin
# rpm -ivh flash-plugin-11.1.102.63-0.1.el6.rf.x86_64.rpm

HTH,
-T

Dag, can you fix this?

Re: flash replacement

[Andrew Z]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

> On 13 November 2012 21:57, Andrew Z  wrote:
> > hello,
> >  is there an alternative for ( lots of grumpy swearing omitted ) flash
> > plugin in FF? with the latest 11.2.202.251 x86 release the HD videos in
> > full-screen a crashing.
> > [bitching on]
> >  first i deal with an invasion of Avatars - "the blue people" and now $$$
> > thing won't even play for longer than 4 minutes in full screen
> > [bitching off]
>
> The adobe flash plugin is about the only one that runs "reliably". The
> alternatives gnash and one other I can't remember only cover some of
> the features. Beyond that since Adobe has dropped developing it for
> Linux, the alternative is to run Google Chrome with a built
> in/"up-to-date" one.
>
> --
> Stephen J Smoogen.
> "Don't derail a useful feature for the 99% because you're not in it."
> Linus Torvalds
> "Years ago my mother used to say to me,... Elwood, you must be oh
> so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I
> recommend pleasant. You may quote me."  —James Stewart as Elwood P. Dowd
>

and the seemed to be no plugin to play mp4, right?

flash replacement

[Andrew Z]

hello,
 is there an alternative for ( lots of grumpy swearing omitted ) flash
plugin in FF? with the latest 11.2.202.251 x86 release the HD videos in
full-screen a crashing.
[bitching on]
 first i deal with an invasion of Avatars - "the blue people" and now $$$
thing won't even play for longer than 4 minutes in full screen
[bitching off]