[scifinoir2] Fireball & Lunar Eclipse and more

[Amy Harlib]

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> Notes on the big Pacific Fireball from early Tues AM (Pacific time)... 
> also, there's a Lunar Eclipse tonight (Wed 2/20 - next one's in 2010) ... 
> should be fun... plus other info available here: http://spaceweather.com/
>
> There's a nice animated lunar eclipse page, too :)
> http://shadowandsubstance.com/
>
> Anyone planning on watching
>

Re: [scifinoir2] FW: BIBLE AT YOUR FINGER TIPS

[Bosco Bosco]

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

Actually, that is why I did it.  Chris and I had a fight.  When that 
happens, we try to walk away and come back together after we cool off.  
I needed to kill a few hours, and take my mind off stuff, so I drove up 
to the theater.  Jumper was about to start, so I chose it.  It took my 
mind off of stuff.  I know you got more serious stuff going on, but it 
is just what the doctor ordered.  I went with very low expectations so I 
enjoyed it and went home to make up with Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i've had several people tell me to stay away from this movie at all costs. 
> But I really need a fun time waster to take my mind off some things. Is it at 
> least a good popcorn flick Phyllis and I can lose ourselves in for a couple 
> of hours without feeling regret?
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> I saw it. It definitely was not theater worthy, but I think it would be 
> a great TV show. I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
> mythology and laws were good too. Unfortunately, it came across like a 
> pilot movie for a scifi tv show. To mad it is not a tv series
>
> ravenadal wrote:
>   
>> To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all superpowers. 
>> Couple it with a "proximity sense," keen hearing (so you can hear 
>> when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), 
>> or just plain "common sense" and you have one heck of a skill set!
>>
>> ~rave!
>>
>> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "DJ VIBE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>>   
 On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal  wrote:
 
> There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen 
>   
>>> it)
>>>
>>>   
> SPOILER
>
>   
>> ALERT!!
>>
>> 
> where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane 
>   
>>> Karina on
>>>
>>>   
> his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, 
>   
>>> where he
>>>
>>>   
> has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with 
>   
>> great 
>>
>> 
>>> power!
>>>
>>>   
>>> It was right in keeping with how his character was established in 
>>> the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of 
>>> using his abilities for good. 
>>>
>>> Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception. How 
>>>
>>>   
>> the 
>>
>> 
>>> hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers? Its one thing if 
>>> you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who 
>>> is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your 
>>> stun-wand, how are you gonna get him? In less than three minutes, 
>>> my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation 
>>>
>>>   
>> power 
>>
>> 
>>> offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la 
>>> Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no 
>>> normal human would have a chance against a jumper.
>>>
>>>
>>>   
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Re: [scifinoir2] John McCain emphatically denies romantic relationship

[KeithBJohnson]

you said it!

-- Original message -- 
From: Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
if you'd like some more insight into the culpability of the Times,
the Post and other bastions of the "liberal media," check out
Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media.

That the left's foremost thinker is essentially unknown in his own
country underscores the idea that the various "liberal media" outlets
are as liberal as the multi-national corporations that own them.

If that's not enough evidence, try to find an article by Greg Palast
published in a paper in the US. 

Bosco
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Martin, you read my mind!! I was just stomping around the house
> today saying the very same thing. The Times released a statement
> today saying in effect, "we don't ever publish anything unless
> we've checked the facts", and i immediately said, "oh, like you
> fact-checked the *dozens* of articles you gave front page space to
> supporting Bush's dumb ass lies?". I've listened to Bill Moyers'
> "Buying the War" program half a dozen times, and the Times was as
> culpabe, as criminally, unforgivably *wrong*, as everyone else. I
> can honestly say I don't when my respect for them and many other
> supposedly free-thinking outlets will ever be restored.
> Guess it's Tavis Smiley and "Democracy Now" and McClatchy for me!
> 
> -- Original message -- 
> From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> One thing that strikes me as funny in this is that the
> right-wingers are all decrying this, painting the Times as "that
> liberal rag". How quickly they forget that, back during the run-up
> to the War on Terror (reg, TM, copy), the Times was right in
> lockstep with the GOP in prosecuting the War. I guess they're only
> good as long as they're spouting *your* propaganda...
> 
> ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080221/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_lobbyist
> 
> McCain says report on lobbyist not true By LIBBY QUAID, Associated 
> 
> 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
> 
> 
> John McCain emphatically denied a romantic relationship with a
> female 
> telecommunications lobbyist on Thursday and said a report by The
> New 
> York Times suggesting favoritism for her clients is "not true."
> 
> "I'm very disappointed in the article. It's not true," the likely 
> Republican presidential nominee said as his wife, Cindy, stood
> beside 
> him during a news conference called to address the matter.
> 
> "I've served this nation honorably for more than half a century," 
> said McCain, a four-term Arizona senator and former Navy pilot. "At
> 
> no time have I ever done anything that would betray the public
> trust."
> 
> "I intend to move on," he added.
> 
> McCain described the woman in question, lobbyist Vicki Iseman, as a
> 
> friend.
> 
> The newspaper quoted anonymous aides as saying they had urged
> McCain 
> and Iseman to stay away from each other prior to his failed 
> presidential campaign in 2000. In its own follow-up story, The 
> Washington Post quoted longtime aide John Weaver, who split with 
> McCain last year, as saying he met with lobbyist Iseman and urged
> her 
> to steer clear of McCain.
> 
> Weaver told the Times he arranged the meeting before the 2000 
> campaign after "a discussion among the campaign leadership" about 
> Iseman.
> 
> But McCain said he was unaware of any such conversation, and denied
> 
> that his aides ever tried to talk to him about his interactions
> with 
> Iseman.
> 
> "I never discussed it with John Weaver. As far as I know, there was
> 
> no necessity for it," McCain said. "I don't know anything about
> it," 
> he added. "John Weaver is a friend of mine. He remains a friend of 
> mine. But I certainly didn't know anything of that nature."
> 
> His wife also said she was disappointed with the newspaper.
> 
> "More importantly, my children and I not only trust my husband, but
> 
> know that he would never do anything to not only disappoint our 
> family, but disappoint the people of America. He's a man of great 
> character," Cindy McCain said.
> 
> The couple smiled throughout the questioning at a Toledo hotel.
> 
> "We think the story speaks for itself," Times executive editor Bill
> 
> Keller said in a written statement Thursday. "On the timing, our 
> policy is we publish stories when they are ready."
> 
> McCain's remaining rival for the Republican nomination, f

Re: [scifinoir2] John McCain emphatically denies romantic relationship

[Bosco Bosco]

if you'd like some more insight into the culpability of the Times,
the Post and other bastions of the "liberal media," check out
Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media.

That the left's foremost thinker is essentially unknown in his own
country underscores the idea that the various "liberal media" outlets
 are as liberal as the multi-national corporations that own them.

If that's not enough evidence, try to find an article by Greg Palast
published in a paper in the US. 

Bosco
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Martin, you read my mind!! I was just stomping around the house
> today saying the very same thing. The Times released a statement
> today saying in effect, "we don't ever publish anything unless
> we've checked the facts", and i immediately said, "oh, like you
> fact-checked the *dozens* of articles you gave front page space to
> supporting Bush's dumb ass lies?".  I've listened to Bill Moyers'
> "Buying the War" program half a dozen times, and the Times was as
> culpabe, as criminally, unforgivably *wrong*, as everyone else. I
> can honestly say I don't when my respect for them and many other
> supposedly free-thinking outlets will ever be restored.
> Guess it's Tavis Smiley and "Democracy Now" and McClatchy for me!
> 
> -- Original message -- 
> From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> One thing that strikes me as funny in this is that the
> right-wingers are all decrying this, painting the Times as "that
> liberal rag". How quickly they forget that, back during the run-up
> to the War on Terror (reg, TM, copy), the Times was right in
> lockstep with the GOP in prosecuting the War. I guess they're only
> good as long as they're spouting *your* propaganda...
> 
> ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080221/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_lobbyist
> 
> McCain says report on lobbyist not true By LIBBY QUAID, Associated 
> 
> 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
> 
> 
> John McCain emphatically denied a romantic relationship with a
> female 
> telecommunications lobbyist on Thursday and said a report by The
> New 
> York Times suggesting favoritism for her clients is "not true."
> 
> "I'm very disappointed in the article. It's not true," the likely 
> Republican presidential nominee said as his wife, Cindy, stood
> beside 
> him during a news conference called to address the matter.
> 
> "I've served this nation honorably for more than half a century," 
> said McCain, a four-term Arizona senator and former Navy pilot. "At
> 
> no time have I ever done anything that would betray the public
> trust."
> 
> "I intend to move on," he added.
> 
> McCain described the woman in question, lobbyist Vicki Iseman, as a
> 
> friend.
> 
> The newspaper quoted anonymous aides as saying they had urged
> McCain 
> and Iseman to stay away from each other prior to his failed 
> presidential campaign in 2000. In its own follow-up story, The 
> Washington Post quoted longtime aide John Weaver, who split with 
> McCain last year, as saying he met with lobbyist Iseman and urged
> her 
> to steer clear of McCain.
> 
> Weaver told the Times he arranged the meeting before the 2000 
> campaign after "a discussion among the campaign leadership" about 
> Iseman.
> 
> But McCain said he was unaware of any such conversation, and denied
> 
> that his aides ever tried to talk to him about his interactions
> with 
> Iseman.
> 
> "I never discussed it with John Weaver. As far as I know, there was
> 
> no necessity for it," McCain said. "I don't know anything about
> it," 
> he added. "John Weaver is a friend of mine. He remains a friend of 
> mine. But I certainly didn't know anything of that nature."
> 
> His wife also said she was disappointed with the newspaper.
> 
> "More importantly, my children and I not only trust my husband, but
> 
> know that he would never do anything to not only disappoint our 
> family, but disappoint the people of America. He's a man of great 
> character," Cindy McCain said.
> 
> The couple smiled throughout the questioning at a Toledo hotel.
> 
> "We think the story speaks for itself," Times executive editor Bill
> 
> Keller said in a written statement Thursday. "On the timing, our 
> policy is we publish stories when they are ready."
> 
> McCain's remaining rival for the Republican nomination, former 
> Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, called McCain "a good decent honorable
> 
> man" and

[scifinoir2] Tyler Perry to Create "Madea" Cartoon

[KeithBJohnson]

Dislike or deride Perry if you want, you must acknowledge and admire his 
accomplishments. I hear a lot of people downplay his movies. I admit I got 
tired of Madea really quick, find the Browns to be a bit too slapstick, his 
plays a bit predictable and corny at times. He ain't Shakespeare. "House of 
Payne" is a pretty awful show that I just can't watch.  But I applaud a Black 
man trying to focus on Black people, showing Black love and faith. I salute 
someone who shows us good and bad, as drug addicts and preachers, cheating 
husbands and great dads, blue collar workers and college professors.   Someone 
who shows *real* Black people and who in the end loves us for what we are and 
what we can be. I just wish that more of us were trying to do what he's been 
doing.  And you can't ignore his financial successes, which are often the 
things that copycat Hollywood must have to give others like Perry a chance.  
Don't hate Madea--just create some choices in addition to him/her...

http://www.eurweb.com/story/eur41056.cfm


'MADEA'…THE CARTOON: Yes, Tyler Perry is animating his famous gangsta grandma 
for a new TV series.

Now that Madea has left her rather large mark on the stage and big screen, the 
next step for creator Tyler Perry is to bring the gun-toting grandma to life in 
her own cartoon series. 
   Perry has teamed up with animation company Exodus Film Group for the 
untitled series, which will be produced entirely up front before shopping to a 
network or releasing on DVD – or both.   
   "After receiving thousands of letters from parents telling me how much 
their kids love Madea and realizing that a lot of the plays were not kid 
friendly," said Perry, "I wanted to do something more appropriate, and this 
seems to be it. A 'Madea' animation looks like the best way."   
   The playwright-turned-filmmaker will create, write and executive produce 
an undetermined number of 22-minute standalone episodes and also provide the 
voice of Mabel "Madea" Simmons.   
  Perry has turned his Madea plays into such movie box office hits as 
"Madea's Family Reunion" and "Diary of a Mad Black Woman." The next Madea 
feature, "Meet the Browns," will be out next month from Lionsgate. He also has 
written for television with the current TBS series "Tyler Perry's House of 
Payne," which Perry also funded and produced before shopping to networks.

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Re: [scifinoir2] John McCain emphatically denies romantic relationship

[KeithBJohnson]

Martin, you read my mind!! I was just stomping around the house today saying 
the very same thing. The Times released a statement today saying in effect, "we 
don't ever publish anything unless we've checked the facts", and i immediately 
said, "oh, like you fact-checked the *dozens* of articles you gave front page 
space to supporting Bush's dumb ass lies?".  I've listened to Bill Moyers' 
"Buying the War" program half a dozen times, and the Times was as culpabe, as 
criminally, unforgivably *wrong*, as everyone else. I can honestly say I don't 
when my respect for them and many other supposedly free-thinking outlets will 
ever be restored.
Guess it's Tavis Smiley and "Democracy Now" and McClatchy for me!

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
One thing that strikes me as funny in this is that the right-wingers are all 
decrying this, painting the Times as "that liberal rag". How quickly they 
forget that, back during the run-up to the War on Terror (reg, TM, copy), the 
Times was right in lockstep with the GOP in prosecuting the War. I guess 
they're only good as long as they're spouting *your* propaganda...

ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080221/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_lobbyist

McCain says report on lobbyist not true By LIBBY QUAID, Associated 

1 hour, 44 minutes ago


John McCain emphatically denied a romantic relationship with a female 
telecommunications lobbyist on Thursday and said a report by The New 
York Times suggesting favoritism for her clients is "not true."

"I'm very disappointed in the article. It's not true," the likely 
Republican presidential nominee said as his wife, Cindy, stood beside 
him during a news conference called to address the matter.

"I've served this nation honorably for more than half a century," 
said McCain, a four-term Arizona senator and former Navy pilot. "At 
no time have I ever done anything that would betray the public trust."

"I intend to move on," he added.

McCain described the woman in question, lobbyist Vicki Iseman, as a 
friend.

The newspaper quoted anonymous aides as saying they had urged McCain 
and Iseman to stay away from each other prior to his failed 
presidential campaign in 2000. In its own follow-up story, The 
Washington Post quoted longtime aide John Weaver, who split with 
McCain last year, as saying he met with lobbyist Iseman and urged her 
to steer clear of McCain.

Weaver told the Times he arranged the meeting before the 2000 
campaign after "a discussion among the campaign leadership" about 
Iseman.

But McCain said he was unaware of any such conversation, and denied 
that his aides ever tried to talk to him about his interactions with 
Iseman.

"I never discussed it with John Weaver. As far as I know, there was 
no necessity for it," McCain said. "I don't know anything about it," 
he added. "John Weaver is a friend of mine. He remains a friend of 
mine. But I certainly didn't know anything of that nature."

His wife also said she was disappointed with the newspaper.

"More importantly, my children and I not only trust my husband, but 
know that he would never do anything to not only disappoint our 
family, but disappoint the people of America. He's a man of great 
character," Cindy McCain said.

The couple smiled throughout the questioning at a Toledo hotel.

"We think the story speaks for itself," Times executive editor Bill 
Keller said in a written statement Thursday. "On the timing, our 
policy is we publish stories when they are ready."

McCain's remaining rival for the Republican nomination, former 
Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, called McCain "a good decent honorable 
man" and said he accepted McCain's response.

"I've campaigned now on the same stage or platform with John McCain 
for 14 months. I only know him to be a man of integrity," Huckabee 
said in Houston. "Today he denied any of that was true. I take him at 
his word. For me to get into it is completely immaterial."

The published reports said McCain and Iseman each denied having a 
romantic relationship. Neither story asserted that there was a 
romantic relationship and offered no evidence that there was, 
reporting only that aides worried about the appearance of McCain 
having close ties to a lobbyist with business before the Senate 
Commerce Committee on which McCain served.

The stories also allege that McCain wrote letters and pushed 
legislation involving television station ownership that would have 
benefited Iseman's clients.

In late 1999, McCain twice wrote letters to the Federal 
Communications Commission on behalf of Florida-based Paxson 
Communications — which had paid Isem

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Preview: Knight Rider Is Back!

[KeithBJohnson]

ah, it was as silly as the rest of the movie. It was such an obvious "let's add 
something spicy and kinda edgy" move

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
And I have to miss *that*?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the intro scene I saw, she was fully clothed and 
packing her gun, saying goodbye to the lady--that's right--she evidently picked 
up at a bar the night before

-- Original message -- 
From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Okay. I get it. Knight Rider redux = BAD. More importantly, is it 
true that the ravishing Sydney Poitner (JR.) essayed her part of her 
part in her underwear?

I just wanna know before I DVR the repeat on Saturday.

~rave!

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

[KeithBJohnson]

i've had several people tell me to stay away from this movie at all costs. But 
I really need a fun time waster to take my mind off some things. Is it at least 
a good popcorn flick Phyllis and I can lose ourselves in for a couple of hours 
without feeling regret?

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I saw it. It definitely was not theater worthy, but I think it would be 
a great TV show. I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
mythology and laws were good too. Unfortunately, it came across like a 
pilot movie for a scifi tv show. To mad it is not a tv series

ravenadal wrote:
> To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all superpowers. 
> Couple it with a "proximity sense," keen hearing (so you can hear 
> when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), 
> or just plain "common sense" and you have one heck of a skill set!
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "DJ VIBE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal  wrote:
>>> >
>>> 
>>> > There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen 
>>> 
>> it)
>> 
>>> >
>>> > SPOILER
>>> > 
>>> 
> ALERT!!
> 
>>> >
>>> > where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane 
>>> 
>> Karina on
>> 
>>> > his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, 
>>> 
>> where he
>> 
>>> > has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with 
>>> 
> great 
> 
>> power!
>> 
>>> >
>>> 
>> It was right in keeping with how his character was established in 
>> the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of 
>> using his abilities for good. 
>>
>> Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception. How 
>> 
> the 
> 
>> hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers? Its one thing if 
>> you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who 
>> is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your 
>> stun-wand, how are you gonna get him? In less than three minutes, 
>> my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation 
>> 
> power 
> 
>> offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la 
>> Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no 
>> normal human would have a chance against a jumper.
>>
>> 
>
>
>
>
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
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[scifinoir2] Tyler Perry Tops Sales Chart

[ravenadal]

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/

Tyler Perry Tops Sales Chart 
Author: THOMAS K. ARNOLD 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted: February 21, 2008 

Why Did I Get Married? 

Lionsgate captured the top spot on the national DVD sales chart with 
Tyler Perry's Why Did I Get Married?, the latest bestselling DVD in 
the successful franchise. The film, which grossed $55 million in 
theaters, debuted at No. 1 on the Nielsen VideoScan First Alert sales 
chart for the week ended Feb. 17, beating several theatrical 
competitors from the major studios. 



Sony Pictures Home Entertainment's We Own the Night, with $28.6 
million in box office receipts, debuted at No. 2. Warner Home Video's 
No Reservations ($43.1 million) bowed at No. 3, while Walt Disney 
Studios Home Entertainment's Gone Baby Gone ($19.6 million) entered 
the chart at No. 5, right behind Disney's Snow Buddies (view 
trailer), the previous week's top DVD seller. 

Another Tyler Perry release, the play What's Done in the Dark, also 
from Lionsgate, debuted at No. 8. 

Gone Baby Gone may not have generated huge purchase demand, but it 
did emerge as the week's top renter, according to Home Media 
Magazine's video rental chart for the week. The Disney/Miramax crime 
drama, written and directed by Ben Affleck, generated an estimated 
$8.9 million in rental revenue. 

We Own the Night, also in the crime-drama genre, debuted at No. 2 on 
the rental chart, with estimated earnings of $7.9 million. The 
romantic comedy No Reservations debuted at No. 5, with $4.6 million, 
while Why Did I Get Married? bowed at No. 15, with $3.5 million. 

On the high-definition disc front, We Own the Night was the top-
selling Blu-ray Disc release of the week, with Gone Baby Gone 
debuting at No. 2. Paramount Home Entertainment's Transformers (2007 
High-Def Disc Awards 5) was No. 1 on the HD DVD chart. 

Re: [scifinoir2] I Refuse to Buy into the Obama Hype (now a supporter)

[Mike Street]

Yeah that was very eye opening.

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Daryle Lockhart
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Great piece.
>
>  And timely! Tonight should be fun with this in the blogosphere.
>
>  On 2/21/08 4:45 PM, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
>
>
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > The following is a summary of the good intentions, successes and
>  > failures of both candidates in the senate. While the author supports
>  > Obama, she had been inclined toward Hillary before doing her research.
>  > I think it is one of the most fact based pieces that I have ever
>  > encountered.
>  >
>  > I Refuse to Buy into the Obama Hype (now a supporter)
>  > by Grassroots Mom
>  > Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 05:13:32 PM PST
>  > http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/20/201332/807/36/458633
>  > The next President is going to have some MAJOR challenges.
>  > I refuse to buy into the hype, on either side, but especially on that of
>  > Obama. However the "empty rhetoric" v. "history of accomplishments"
>  > arguments have prompted me to check it out on my own, not relying on any
>  > candidate's website, book, or worst of all supporters' diaries, like
>  > this one.
>  >
>  > I went to the Library of Congress Website. The FACTS of what each did in
>  > the Senate last year sure surprised me. I'm sure they will surprise you,
>  > too. Whether you love or hate Hillary, you will be surprised. Whether
>  > you think Obama is the second coming of JFK or an inexperienced
>  > lightweight, you will surprised. Go check out the Library of Congress
>  > Website. After spending some time there, it will be clear that there is
>  > really only one candidate would is ready to be the next president, even
>  > better than Gore. If you don't want to spend an hour or two doing
>  > research, then I'll tell you what I discovered on the jump.
>  >
>  > * Grassroots Mom's diary :: ::
>  > *
>  >
>  > I looked up Obama and looked up Clinton. I looked at the bills that they
>  > both authored and introduced. Anyone who has been around politics, and
>  > is honest, realizes that there are a lot of reasons why a Senator votes
>  > one way or another on bills or misses votes. However an examination of
>  > the bills that each of these Senators cared enough about to author and
>  > introduce revealed much to me: what they care about, what their
>  > priorities are, how they tackle problems. And the list of co-sponsors
>  > showed something about how they lead, inspire and work with others.
>  > Finally, looking at which bills actually passed is pretty indicative of
>  > how effective each would be at getting things done.
>  >
>  > Before I get into the nitty gritty, let's all be honest here. It is damn
>  > hard to get anything through Congress these days. And Obama and Clinton
>  > care about the same issues and have obviously worked together on a lot
>  > of legislation, whatever Sen. Clinton's campaign may imply. She is a
>  > frequent co-sponsor on his bills, and he on hers. They are both
>  > completely competent senators.
>  >
>  > I started with Sen. Clinton.
>  >
>  > I'm not a Hillary Hater, but I certainly didn't like her much either. I
>  > didn't like her DLC history; her votes on Iraq, Iran or the bankruptcy
>  > bill; her characterization of the years she spent as First Lady as
>  > "executive experience." Hillary Clinton is no Eleanor Roosevelt. Perhaps
>  > more like Lady Bird Johnson. Hillary claims to have brought us SCHIP
>  > (with a little help from Ted Kennedy). Lady Bird brought us Head Start
>  > as well as cleaner, nicer highways. Anyone 40 or older probably
>  > remembers when the nation's highways were basically disgusting garbage
>  > dumps lined with billboards. But no one thinks Lady Bird should have
>  > been president. Might as well argue for Barbara Bush because of her
>  > efforts on family literacy, or Nancy Reagan and the War on Drugs.
>  >
>  > Hillary Clinton does have a solid record in the Senate, however.
>  >
>  > I came away from my research really knowing a lot more about what is
>  > important to Hillary in her heart: kids and their well being. My
>  > research changed my feeling about her significantly. About 40% of her
>  > bills dealt with health care and/or kids. As a mom with small kids, I
>  > like her passion for children's issues. But curiously, her big bill to
>  > deliver health care to every child, the one she lauds on her website,
>  > S.895 : "A bill to amend titles XIX and XXI of the Social Security Act
>  > to ensure that every child in the United States has access to
>  > affordable, quality health insurance coverage, and for other purposes"
>  > had not a single co-sponsor. Not one, according to the Library of
>  > Congress. Why is that? Is it a bad bill? Or is she not able to recruit
>  > support for her signature issue? Or did she just submit it simply to put
>  > in the hopper, so to speak, so she could claim she was working on it. I

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Aloha

I'm looking for netflix friends. Drop me a line if you're interested

Bosco

I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead.
I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said.

You know these things that happen,
That's just the way it's supposed to be.
And I can't help but wonder,
Don't ya know it coulda been me.


  

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RE: [scifinoir2] Maurice is Back?

[Reece Jennings]

Thank you, my good friend!  Thank you!
 
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:04 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Maurice is Back?



Welcome back indeed, sir! A good day gets better still!

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 aladvantage.com> wrote:
Welcome Back Maurice!

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organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A
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RE: [scifinoir2] Maurice is Back?

[Reece Jennings]

Thanks, Tracey! 


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-Original Message-
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:52 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Maurice is Back?

Welcome Back Maurice!


 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Rescue Vehicle

[Martin]

LMNAO!

Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   
  
 ECNALUBMA (ek na lub' ma) n. A rescue vehicle that can only be seen in 
 the rearview mirror.
  
  
  :o)
  
  
  
 
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RE: [scifinoir2] [OT] [Curious] Ivory Coast's 'big-bottom' craze

[Martin]

LMNAO! This is a good day indeed!

Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   There 
was a flat-butt movement?  Not in MY house! 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Lockhart, Daryle
 Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:16 AM
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [OT] [Curious] Ivory Coast's 'big-bottom' craze
 
 Not me. I'm personally tired of the flat-butt movement. Count me in for Big
 Bottom.
 
 On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:58:46 -0500, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote:
 
 > I'll be in the other room until this craze goes away... 8-O
 >
 > brent wodehouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
 > wrote:   :-)
 >  ---
 >  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7233565.stm
 > Ivory Coast's 'big-bottom' craze
 > By John James
 >  BBC News, Abidjan
 > A national dance craze in Ivory Coast has spawned a black market in  
 > treatments claiming to increase one's bottom size.
 > The dance in question has been inspired by DJ Mix and DJ Eloh's hit 
 > song  Bobaraba, which means "big bottom" in the local Djoula language.
 > When it plays you can be guaranteed that the dance floor will be 
 > packed  with people shaking their derrieres.
 > Even Ivorian footballers have adopted the moves and could be seen 
 > wiggling  their bottoms in a curious on-pitch dance after each goal 
 > scored during  the just-ended Africa Nations Cup.
 > However, doctors have warned of the possible dangers of some of the  
 > concoctions on sale.
 > While the dance has been embraced by both sexes, DJ Mix says it was  
 > inspired by women.
 > "We made it as a tribute to women, because African women are defined 
 > by  the shape of their bottoms," he says.
 > "Move your bottom, jump, you see, it's alive."
 > Kady Meite, one of his dancers, says the song is a message for women.
 > "There are women today with large bottoms who are embarrassed, so it's 
 > to  say don't be ashamed - be comfortable," she says.
 > The message seems to have been taken on board - so much so that some 
 > women  are now going in search of a "bobaraba".
 > Injections
 > In the sprawling Adjame market just north of the city centre in 
 > Abidjan,  women sell "bottom enhancers".
 > "You need to inject this liquid into your bottom once a day," says a  
 > market trader, showing a vial of coloured liquid labelled "Vitamin B12".
 > Each vial costs $2. The label claims it is made in China.
 > If you do not like the sound of injections, the same amount of money 
 > will  also get you a small tub of cream.
 > There is no description of what the product contains or how to apply 
 > it;  just the words "Big bottoms and big breasts", and two 
 > illustrating  pictures.
 > Local gynaecologist Dr Marcel Sissoko is sceptical about the concoctions.
 > "This medicine could be dangerous for your health because we don't 
 > know  the ingredients. It's being used without a medical 
 > prescription," he warns.
 > "The health ministry hasn't authorised this and doctors don't know 
 > what's  in there, so there are risks."
 > At the Micronutrient Information Centre at Oregon State University in 
 > the  United States, Dr Victoria Drake says she knows of no scientific 
 > evidence  that vitamin B12 can be used to treat anything except 
 > vitamin B12  deficiency.
 > 'Danger'
 > DJ Mix admits there is now a growing fashion for young women to show 
 > off  their bottoms.
 > "If a woman goes dancing and wants to take two or three treatments, no  
 > problem," he says.
 > "But we don't say to girls that they must take treatment to enhance 
 > your  bottom, no."
 > One man on the streets of Abidjan agreed: "Us boys, we appreciate 
 > these  things because when women use the treatment it attracts us, but 
 > for women  it's not good."
 > Most women I spoke to preferred to avoid the treatments.
 > "Me? I prefer to be natural so you can know your true value. It's best 
 > not  to use these medicines. It's not good - it's actually very 
 > dangerous,"
 > one
 >  said.
 > Another woman was happy with what came naturally.
 > "I do the bobaraba because I already have a big bum. When I dance,  
 > everyone looks at me."
 >
 >
 > "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will 
 > get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man 
 > Without A Country"
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Re: [scifinoir2] Original "Battlestar Galactica," "Night Gallery," "Buck Rogers," "Tek War" get ne

[Martin]

You can say that again. I'm drooling at the thought of "Night Gallery".

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   And many of these, old 
as they are, would still be more desirable than remakes like "Bionic Woman" and 
"Knight Rider"
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: "brent wodehouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 
http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSN2031765420080220?feedType=RSS&feedName=internetNews
 
 "A-Team" and "Kojak" get new life on NBC sites
 
 Wed Feb 20, 2008
 
 By Alex Woodson
 
 NEW YORK (Hollywood Reporter) - NBC Universal said Tuesday it will stream
 full episodes of old TV shows, including "The A-Team" and "Kojak," on its
 Web sites.
 
 Beginning this month, the shows will be available on NBC.com and on
 network-owned niche sites SciFi.com, ChillerTV.com and SleuthChannel.com.
 
 The NBC.com additions are "A-Team," "The Alfred Hitchcock Hour," "Miami
 Vice," "Buck Rogers," "Emergency," "Night Gallery" and the original
 "Battlestar Galactica."
 
 "Buck Rogers" and "Battlestar Galactica" also will be available on
 SciFi.com, along with "Tek War" and "Night Gallery"; "Hitchcock," "Swamp
 Thing," "Tremors," "Crow" and "Night Gallery" will be featured on
 ChillerTV.com; and SleuthChannel.com will present the Telly Savalas
 starrer "Kojak," "Miami Vice," "A-Team," "Night Gallery" and "Simon &
 Simon."
 
 The content also will be available on Hulu, the online video joint venture
 that NBC Universal launched with News Corp. last year. Through Hulu, the
 shows will be syndicated to Yahoo, News Corp.'s MySpace, MSN, Comcast,
 Time Warner's AOL and other Web destinations.
 
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[scifinoir2] Re: John McCain emphatically denies romantic relationship

[ravenadal]

Studies have speculated that slightly more than half of all married 
men will cheat on their wives and slightly less than half won't.  
John McCain has already exhibited himself as part of the 50% that 
will.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I doubt that the report is true because, had it been, someone in 
the GOP would've used it to shoot him down early on. That said, he's 
still not a good man, and would be potentially a more disasterous 
choice for POTUS than- well, anyone since Ronnie-poo. :P
> 
> ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   This 
article prompted me to google McCain, I shouldn't have been but 
>  I was surprised at how much is his official biography fails to 
jibe 
>  with his myth.  Did he or didn't he?  After reading the below, I 
>  suspect he DID.
>  
>  ~rave!
>  
>  Following in the footsteps of his father and grandfather, John 
Sidney 
>  McCain III entered the United States Naval Academy. McCain was a 
>  rebellious midshipman, and his career at the Naval Academy was 
>  ambivalent and lackluster. He had his share of run-ins with the 
>  faculty and leadership; each year he was given over 100 demerits 
(for 
>  unshined shoes, formation faults, talking out of place, and the 
like) 
>  earning him membership in the "Century Club." He did not take well 
to 
>  those of higher rank arbitrarily wielding power over him — "It was 
>  bullshit, and I resented the hell out of it"
>  
>  McCain was then commissioned an ensign, and spent two and a half 
>  years as a naval aviator in training at Naval Air Station 
Pensacola 
>  in Florida and Naval Air Station Corpus Christi in Texas, flying A-
1 
>  Skyraiders. He earned a reputation as a party man, as he drove a 
>  Corvette, dated an exotic dancer named "Marie the Flame of 
Florida", 
>  and, as he would later say, "generally misused my good health and 
>  youth."
>  
>  Stationed at Naval Air Station Cecil Field outside Jacksonville, 
>  Florida (1974), the McCains' marriage began to falter. McCain had 
>  extramarital affairs, and he would later say, "My marriage's 
collapse 
>  was attributable to my own selfishness and immaturity more than it 
>  was to Vietnam, and I cannot escape blame by pointing a finger at 
the 
>  war. The blame was entirely mine."[84] His wife Carol would later 
>  echo those sentiments, saying "I attribute [the breakup of our 
>  marriage] more to John turning 40 and wanting to be 25 again than 
I 
>  do to anything else."  
>  
>  McCain met his current wife, Cindy Lou, in April 1979 and divorced 
>  his first wife in April 1980. 
>  
>  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart  wrote:
>  >
>  > 
>  > Gee I WONDER WHERE this story came from?
>  > 
>  > The sad thing is is that this will  be taken out of context and 
the 
>  focus
>  > will be on the implied romantic side of their relationship,  
which 
>  they both
>  > deny, instead of ³...and why does he have lobbyists as friends?²
>  > 
>  > Whatever Obama has in his closet, now would be a good tie to get 
it 
>  out.
>  > It¹s about to go down.
>  > 
>  > 
>  > On 2/21/08 1:12 PM, "ravenadal"  wrote:
>  > 
>  > >  
>  > >  
>  > >  
>  > > 
>  > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080221/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_lobbyist
>  > > 
>  > > McCain says report on lobbyist not true By LIBBY QUAID, 
Associated
>  > > 
>  > > 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
>  > >  
>  > > 
>  > > John McCain emphatically denied a romantic relationship with a 
>  female
>  > > telecommunications lobbyist on Thursday and said a report by 
The 
>  New
>  > > York Times suggesting favoritism for her clients is "not true."
>  > > 
>  > > "I'm very disappointed in the article. It's not true," the 
likely
>  > > Republican presidential nominee said as his wife, Cindy, stood 
>  beside
>  > > him during a news conference called to address the matter.
>  > > 
>  > > "I've served this nation honorably for more than half a 
century,"
>  > > said McCain, a four-term Arizona senator and former Navy 
>  pilot. "At
>  > > no time have I ever done anything that would betray the public 
>  trust."
>  > > 
>  > > "I intend to move on," he added.
>  > > 
>  > > McCain described the woman in question, lobbyist Vicki Iseman, 
as 
>  a
>  > > friend.
>  > > 
>  > > The

[scifinoir2] In the Year 2012

[ravenadal]

2012 is sometimes claimed to be a great year of spiritual 
transformation (or apocalypse). Many esoteric sources interpret the 
completion of the thirteenth B'ak'tun cycle in the Long Count of the 
Maya calendar (which occurs on December 21 by the most widely held 
correlation) to mean there will be a major change in world order.
Accordingly, several eclectic authors claim that a major, world-
changing event will take place in 2012:
•   NASA predicts that the Sun will reverse its own magnetic 
poles during 2012 as result of reaching the end of the current 11-
year sunspot cycle.
•   The 1995 book The Mayan Prophecies linked the Maya calendar 
with long-period sunspot cycles. 
•   The book 2012: Mayan Year of Destiny claims the Maya may have 
been instructed in their wisdom by disembodied entities from Orion 
and the Pleiades. Contact was maintained through shamanic rituals 
conducted in accordance with the movements of planets and stars. 
However, some Mayan priests living and working in Guatemala assert 
that there is no legitimacy to this theory. 
•   The 1997 book The Bible Code claims that, according to 
certain algorithms of the Bible code, a meteor, asteroid or comet 
will collide with the Earth. 
•   The book The Nostradamus Code speaks of a series of natural 
disasters caused by a comet (possibly as above) that will allow the 
third Antichrist to disperse his troops around the globe under the 
guise of aid in preparation for a possible nuclear war, although in 
the strictest sense it is unspecific as to nuclear war or some other 
natural or man caused destruction. 
•   The book The Orion Prophecy claims that the Earth's magnetic 
field will reverse. 
•   The 2005 book Beyond 2012: Catastrophe or Ecstasy by Geoff 
Stray reviews several theories, prophecies and predictions concerning 
2012 and finds where authors have used faulty information or have 
bent the truth to fit their theories. 
•   The 2006 book 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl by Daniel 
Pinchbeck discusses theories of a possible global awakening to 
psychic connection by the year 2012, creating a noosphere. 
•   The 2007 book Apocalypse 2012: A Scientific Investigation 
into Civilization's End by Lawrence Joseph does not make any specific 
new predictions, but it reviews a number of 2012 predictions made by 
various sources, and presents arguments for the possible existence of 
dangerous positive feedback loops involving solar storms, Earth's 
magnetic field, cosmic rays, hurricanes, global warming, earthquakes, 
and supervolcanoes that may be on the verge of erupting. 
Other prophecies and apocalyptic writings and hypotheses for this 
year include:
•   Terence McKenna's numerological novelty theory suggests a 
point of singularity in which humankind will go through a great shift 
in consciousness. 
•   Some proponents of a peak oil catastrophe place major events 
in 2012. Richard C. Duncan's book The Peak of World Oil Production 
and the Road To The Olduvai Gorge claims that the Olduvai cliff will 
begin and permanent blackouts will occur worldwide. Several studies 
predict a peak in oil production in or around 2012. 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: talking about your women

[Martin]

I'm walking away from that. Too many women know where I live...

ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   This is 
funny because A)apparently your husband(?) sent it to you and 
 B) it is true!
 
 ~rave!
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly 
 Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >
 > Since you guys are always discussing your women, I thought i would 
 > forward this to you
 > 
 > Chris de Morsella wrote:
 > > The FBI had an opening for an assassin.
 > > After all the background checks, interviews and testing were 
 done, there
 > > were 3 finalists; two men and a woman.
 > > 
 > > 
 > > For the final test, the FBI agents took one of the men to a large 
 metal
 > > door and handed him a gun.
 > > 
 > > 
 > > 'We must know that you will follow your instructions no matter 
 what the
 > > circumstances. Inside the room you will find your wife sitting in 
 a
 > > chair . . . Kill her!!'
 > > 
 > > The man said, 'You can't be serious. I could never shoot my wife.'
 > > The agent said, 'Then you're not the right man for this job. Take 
 your
 > > wife and go home.'
 > > 
 > > The second man was given the same instructions. He took the gun 
 and went
 > > into the room. All was quiet for a bout 5 minutes. The man came 
 out with
 > > tears in his eyes, 'I tried, but I can't kill my wife.' The agent 
 said,
 > > 'You don't have what it takes. Take your wife and
 > > go home.'
 > > 
 > > Finally, it was the woman's turn. She was given the same 
 instructions, to
 > > 
 > > kill her husband. She took the gun and went into the room. Shots 
 were
 > > heard, one after another. They heard screaming, crashing, banging 
 on the
 > > walls. After a few minutes, all was quiet. The door opened slowly 
 and
 > > there stood the woman, wiping the sweat from her brow.
 > >  
 > > 'This gun is loaded with blanks' she said. 'I had to beat him to 
 death
 > > with the chair.'
 > >  
 > > MORAL:
 > > Women are crazy. Don't mess with them
 > > 
 > >  
 > >
 >
 
 
 
   


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Re: [scifinoir2] John McCain emphatically denies romantic relationship

[Martin]

One thing that strikes me as funny in this is that the right-wingers are all 
decrying this, painting the Times as "that liberal rag". How quickly they 
forget that, back during the run-up to the War on Terror (reg, TM, copy), the 
Times was right in lockstep with the GOP in prosecuting the War. I guess 
they're only good as long as they're spouting *your* propaganda...

ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080221/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_lobbyist
 
 McCain says report on lobbyist not true By LIBBY QUAID, Associated 
 
 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
  
 
 John McCain emphatically denied a romantic relationship with a female 
 telecommunications lobbyist on Thursday and said a report by The New 
 York Times suggesting favoritism for her clients is "not true."
 
 "I'm very disappointed in the article. It's not true," the likely 
 Republican presidential nominee said as his wife, Cindy, stood beside 
 him during a news conference called to address the matter.
 
 "I've served this nation honorably for more than half a century," 
 said McCain, a four-term Arizona senator and former Navy pilot. "At 
 no time have I ever done anything that would betray the public trust."
 
 "I intend to move on," he added.
 
 McCain described the woman in question, lobbyist Vicki Iseman, as a 
 friend.
 
 The newspaper quoted anonymous aides as saying they had urged McCain 
 and Iseman to stay away from each other prior to his failed 
 presidential campaign in 2000. In its own follow-up story, The 
 Washington Post quoted longtime aide John Weaver, who split with 
 McCain last year, as saying he met with lobbyist Iseman and urged her 
 to steer clear of McCain.
 
 Weaver told the Times he arranged the meeting before the 2000 
 campaign after "a discussion among the campaign leadership" about 
 Iseman.
 
 But McCain said he was unaware of any such conversation, and denied 
 that his aides ever tried to talk to him about his interactions with 
 Iseman.
 
 "I never discussed it with John Weaver. As far as I know, there was 
 no necessity for it," McCain said. "I don't know anything about it," 
 he added. "John Weaver is a friend of mine. He remains a friend of 
 mine. But I certainly didn't know anything of that nature."
 
 His wife also said she was disappointed with the newspaper.
 
 "More importantly, my children and I not only trust my husband, but 
 know that he would never do anything to not only disappoint our 
 family, but disappoint the people of America. He's a man of great 
 character," Cindy McCain said.
 
 The couple smiled throughout the questioning at a Toledo hotel.
 
 "We think the story speaks for itself," Times executive editor Bill 
 Keller said in a written statement Thursday. "On the timing, our 
 policy is we publish stories when they are ready."
 
 McCain's remaining rival for the Republican nomination, former 
 Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, called McCain "a good decent honorable 
 man" and said he accepted McCain's response.
 
 "I've campaigned now on the same stage or platform with John McCain 
 for 14 months. I only know him to be a man of integrity," Huckabee 
 said in Houston. "Today he denied any of that was true. I take him at 
 his word. For me to get into it is completely immaterial."
 
 The published reports said McCain and Iseman each denied having a 
 romantic relationship. Neither story asserted that there was a 
 romantic relationship and offered no evidence that there was, 
 reporting only that aides worried about the appearance of McCain 
 having close ties to a lobbyist with business before the Senate 
 Commerce Committee on which McCain served.
 
 The stories also allege that McCain wrote letters and pushed 
 legislation involving television station ownership that would have 
 benefited Iseman's clients.
 
 In late 1999, McCain twice wrote letters to the Federal 
 Communications Commission on behalf of Florida-based Paxson 
 Communications — which had paid Iseman as its lobbyist — urging quick 
 consideration of a proposal to buy a television station license in 
 Pittsburgh. At the time, Paxson's chief executive, Lowell W. "Bud" 
 Paxson, also was a major contributor to McCain's 2000 presidential 
 campaign. 
 
 McCain did not urge the FCC commissioners to approve the proposal, 
 but he asked for speedy consideration of the deal, which was pending 
 from two years earlier. In an unusual response, then-FCC Chairman 
 William Kennard complained that McCain's request "comes at a 
 sensitive time in the deliberative process" and "could have 
 procedural and substantive impacts on the commission's deliberations 
 and, thus, on the due process rights of the parties." 
 
 McCain 

Re: [scifinoir2] John McCain emphatically denies romantic relationship

[Martin]

I'll second that, Daryle. Obama needs to clean out the cupboard *fast*.

Daryle Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   
 Gee I WONDER WHERE this story came from?
 
 The sad thing is is that this will  be taken out of context and the focus
 will be on the implied romantic side of their relationship,  which they both
 deny, instead of ³...and why does he have lobbyists as friends?²
 
 Whatever Obama has in his closet, now would be a good tie to get it out.
 It¹s about to go down.
 
 On 2/21/08 1:12 PM, "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
 >  
 >  
 >  
 > 
 > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080221/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_lobbyist
 > 
 > McCain says report on lobbyist not true By LIBBY QUAID, Associated
 > 
 > 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
 >  
 > 
 > John McCain emphatically denied a romantic relationship with a female
 > telecommunications lobbyist on Thursday and said a report by The New
 > York Times suggesting favoritism for her clients is "not true."
 > 
 > "I'm very disappointed in the article. It's not true," the likely
 > Republican presidential nominee said as his wife, Cindy, stood beside
 > him during a news conference called to address the matter.
 > 
 > "I've served this nation honorably for more than half a century,"
 > said McCain, a four-term Arizona senator and former Navy pilot. "At
 > no time have I ever done anything that would betray the public trust."
 > 
 > "I intend to move on," he added.
 > 
 > McCain described the woman in question, lobbyist Vicki Iseman, as a
 > friend.
 > 
 > The newspaper quoted anonymous aides as saying they had urged McCain
 > and Iseman to stay away from each other prior to his failed
 > presidential campaign in 2000. In its own follow-up story, The
 > Washington Post quoted longtime aide John Weaver, who split with
 > McCain last year, as saying he met with lobbyist Iseman and urged her
 > to steer clear of McCain.
 > 
 > Weaver told the Times he arranged the meeting before the 2000
 > campaign after "a discussion among the campaign leadership" about
 > Iseman.
 > 
 > But McCain said he was unaware of any such conversation, and denied
 > that his aides ever tried to talk to him about his interactions with
 > Iseman.
 > 
 > "I never discussed it with John Weaver. As far as I know, there was
 > no necessity for it," McCain said. "I don't know anything about it,"
 > he added. "John Weaver is a friend of mine. He remains a friend of
 > mine. But I certainly didn't know anything of that nature."
 > 
 > His wife also said she was disappointed with the newspaper.
 > 
 > "More importantly, my children and I not only trust my husband, but
 > know that he would never do anything to not only disappoint our
 > family, but disappoint the people of America. He's a man of great
 > character," Cindy McCain said.
 > 
 > The couple smiled throughout the questioning at a Toledo hotel.
 > 
 > "We think the story speaks for itself," Times executive editor Bill
 > Keller said in a written statement Thursday. "On the timing, our
 > policy is we publish stories when they are ready."
 > 
 > McCain's remaining rival for the Republican nomination, former
 > Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, called McCain "a good decent honorable
 > man" and said he accepted McCain's response.
 > 
 > "I've campaigned now on the same stage or platform with John McCain
 > for 14 months. I only know him to be a man of integrity," Huckabee
 > said in Houston. "Today he denied any of that was true. I take him at
 > his word. For me to get into it is completely immaterial."
 > 
 > The published reports said McCain and Iseman each denied having a
 > romantic relationship. Neither story asserted that there was a
 > romantic relationship and offered no evidence that there was,
 > reporting only that aides worried about the appearance of McCain
 > having close ties to a lobbyist with business before the Senate
 > Commerce Committee on which McCain served.
 > 
 > The stories also allege that McCain wrote letters and pushed
 > legislation involving television station ownership that would have
 > benefited Iseman's clients.
 > 
 > In late 1999, McCain twice wrote letters to the Federal
 > Communications Commission on behalf of Florida-based Paxson
 > Communications — which had paid Iseman as its lobbyist — urging quick
 > consideration of a proposal to buy a television station license in
 > Pittsburgh. At the time, Paxson's chief executive, Lowell W. "Bud"
 > Paxson, also was a major contributor to McCain

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Preview: Knight Rider Is Back!

[Martin]

And I have to miss *that*?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   the intro scene I saw, 
she was fully clothed and packing her gun, saying goodbye to the lady--that's 
right--she evidently picked up at a bar the night before
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 Okay. I get it. Knight Rider redux = BAD. More importantly, is it 
 true that the ravishing Sydney Poitner (JR.) essayed her part of her 
 part in her underwear?
 
 I just wanna know before I DVR the repeat on Saturday.
 
 ~rave!
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: John McCain emphatically denies romantic relationship

[Martin]

I doubt that the report is true because, had it been, someone in the GOP 
would've used it to shoot him down early on. That said, he's still not a good 
man, and would be potentially a more disasterous choice for POTUS than- well, 
anyone since Ronnie-poo. :P

ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   This article 
prompted me to google McCain, I shouldn't have been but 
 I was surprised at how much is his official biography fails to jibe 
 with his myth.  Did he or didn't he?  After reading the below, I 
 suspect he DID.
 
 ~rave!
 
 Following in the footsteps of his father and grandfather, John Sidney 
 McCain III entered the United States Naval Academy. McCain was a 
 rebellious midshipman, and his career at the Naval Academy was 
 ambivalent and lackluster. He had his share of run-ins with the 
 faculty and leadership; each year he was given over 100 demerits (for 
 unshined shoes, formation faults, talking out of place, and the like) 
 earning him membership in the "Century Club." He did not take well to 
 those of higher rank arbitrarily wielding power over him — "It was 
 bullshit, and I resented the hell out of it"
 
 McCain was then commissioned an ensign, and spent two and a half 
 years as a naval aviator in training at Naval Air Station Pensacola 
 in Florida and Naval Air Station Corpus Christi in Texas, flying A-1 
 Skyraiders. He earned a reputation as a party man, as he drove a 
 Corvette, dated an exotic dancer named "Marie the Flame of Florida", 
 and, as he would later say, "generally misused my good health and 
 youth."
 
 Stationed at Naval Air Station Cecil Field outside Jacksonville, 
 Florida (1974), the McCains' marriage began to falter. McCain had 
 extramarital affairs, and he would later say, "My marriage's collapse 
 was attributable to my own selfishness and immaturity more than it 
 was to Vietnam, and I cannot escape blame by pointing a finger at the 
 war. The blame was entirely mine."[84] His wife Carol would later 
 echo those sentiments, saying "I attribute [the breakup of our 
 marriage] more to John turning 40 and wanting to be 25 again than I 
 do to anything else."  
 
 McCain met his current wife, Cindy Lou, in April 1979 and divorced 
 his first wife in April 1980. 
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >
 > 
 > Gee I WONDER WHERE this story came from?
 > 
 > The sad thing is is that this will  be taken out of context and the 
 focus
 > will be on the implied romantic side of their relationship,  which 
 they both
 > deny, instead of ³...and why does he have lobbyists as friends?²
 > 
 > Whatever Obama has in his closet, now would be a good tie to get it 
 out.
 > It¹s about to go down.
 > 
 > 
 > On 2/21/08 1:12 PM, "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > 
 > >  
 > >  
 > >  
 > > 
 > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080221/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_lobbyist
 > > 
 > > McCain says report on lobbyist not true By LIBBY QUAID, Associated
 > > 
 > > 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
 > >  
 > > 
 > > John McCain emphatically denied a romantic relationship with a 
 female
 > > telecommunications lobbyist on Thursday and said a report by The 
 New
 > > York Times suggesting favoritism for her clients is "not true."
 > > 
 > > "I'm very disappointed in the article. It's not true," the likely
 > > Republican presidential nominee said as his wife, Cindy, stood 
 beside
 > > him during a news conference called to address the matter.
 > > 
 > > "I've served this nation honorably for more than half a century,"
 > > said McCain, a four-term Arizona senator and former Navy 
 pilot. "At
 > > no time have I ever done anything that would betray the public 
 trust."
 > > 
 > > "I intend to move on," he added.
 > > 
 > > McCain described the woman in question, lobbyist Vicki Iseman, as 
 a
 > > friend.
 > > 
 > > The newspaper quoted anonymous aides as saying they had urged 
 McCain
 > > and Iseman to stay away from each other prior to his failed
 > > presidential campaign in 2000. In its own follow-up story, The
 > > Washington Post quoted longtime aide John Weaver, who split with
 > > McCain last year, as saying he met with lobbyist Iseman and urged 
 her
 > > to steer clear of McCain.
 > > 
 > > Weaver told the Times he arranged the meeting before the 2000
 > > campaign after "a discussion among the campaign leadership" about
 > > Iseman.
 > > 
 > > But McCain said he was unaware of any such conversation, and 
 denied
 > > that his aides ever tried to talk

[scifinoir2] Re: Hopes rise for finding alien Earths

[ravenadal]

And not a minute too soon, either!  Apparently this earth has gone 
into "self cleaning" mode to rid herself of the human "virus" dead 
set on choking off all her resources.

News flash: Bee hives are being destroyed by "colony collapse" 
disease.  No bees = no pollination.  No pollination = no crops.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_Collapse_Disorder

News flash: Bananas, world's most popular fruit is about to pass into 
oblivion.  Scientists say popular fruit could be extinct in ten years.

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=7715

~(no)rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Amy Harlib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Subject:  Hopes rise for finding alien Earths
> 
> 
> > URL to an article in MSNBC
> > _http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23212185/_
> > (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23212185/)
> >
> > First few paragraphs
> > "
> > BOSTON - Rocky planets like Earth  could be found around most 
sunlike 
> > stars
> > in our galaxy, new research suggests,  further raising hopes that 
> > scientists
> > will someday find E.T. or at least  primitive life beyond our 
solar 
> > system.
> > The finding is based on an  analysis of dust around 309 stars 
with masses
> > comparable to our sun.
> > NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope was  able to detect the heat that 
radiated
> > from the dust, "not unlike the smoke  you'll see rising from 
chimneys 
> > around here
> > in the Boston area on a cold day,"  said researcher Michael Meyer 
of the
> > University of Arizona.
> >
> >
> > Meyer  and his colleagues found "warm" dust, between minus 280 
and 80 
> > degrees
> > Fahrenheit (-173 to 27 degrees Celsius), orbiting at an estimated 
distance
> > from  their stars in the same range that Earth and Jupiter are 
found in 
> > _our
> > solar system_
> > (http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagegallery/igviewer.php?
imgid=4162&gid=298) 
> > . This allowed them to infer the presence of  colliding
> > larger rocky bodies, and to estimate that at least 20 percent and 
up  to 
> > as many as
> > 60 percent of the sunlike stars in our galaxy's disk could give  
rise to
> > _rocky planets like Earth_
> > 
(http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060125_smallest_planet.html) .
> >
> >
> > "From those observations of dust,  we infer the presence of 
colliding 
> > larger
> > rocky bodies, not unlike asteroids and  other things in our solar 
system 
> > that
> > we know bang together and generate dust,"  Meyer told reporters 
here at 
> > the
> > annual meeting of the American Association for  the Advancement 
of 
> > Science. "By
> > tracing that dust, we trace these dynamical  processes that we 
think led 
> > to
> > the formation of the terrestrial planets in our  solar system."
> > The best guess scientists have for  the time scale of the 
formation of 
> > Earth,
> > as a result of collisions, is when our  sun was between 10 
million to 50
> > million years old (it is now about 4.6 billion  years old). Meyer 
found 
> > the warm
> > dust trails in stars between 3 million and 300  million years 
old. "
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

[Martin]

Give 'em time, Tracey.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
 I saw it.  It definitely was not theater worthy, but I 
think it would be 
 a great TV show.  I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
 mythology and laws were good too.  Unfortunately, it came across like a 
 pilot movie for a scifi tv show.   To mad it is not a tv series
 
 ravenadal wrote:
 > To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all superpowers.  
 > Couple it with a "proximity sense," keen hearing (so you can hear 
 > when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), 
 > or just plain "common sense" and you have one heck of a skill set!
 >
 > ~rave!
 >
 > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "DJ VIBE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >   
 >>  
 >> 
 >>>  On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal  wrote:
 >>>  >
 >>>  
 >>>  > There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen 
 >>>   
 >> it)
 >> 
 >>>  >
 >>>  >  SPOILER
 >>>  >  
 >>>   
 > ALERT!!
 >   
 >>>  >
 >>>  >  where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane 
 >>>   
 >> Karina on
 >> 
 >>>  >  his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, 
 >>>   
 >> where he
 >> 
 >>>  >  has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with 
 >>>   
 > great 
 >   
 >> power!
 >> 
 >>>  >
 >>>   
 >> It was right in keeping with how his character was established in 
 >> the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of 
 >> using his abilities for good.  
 >>
 >> Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception.  How 
 >> 
 > the 
 >   
 >> hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers?  Its one thing if 
 >> you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who 
 >> is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your 
 >> stun-wand, how are you gonna get him?  In less than three minutes, 
 >> my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation 
 >> 
 > power 
 >   
 >> offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la 
 >> Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no 
 >> normal human would have a chance against a jumper.
 >>
 >> 
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >  
 > Yahoo! Groups Links
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >   
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Maurice is Back?

[Martin]

Welcome back indeed, sir! A good day gets better still!

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Welcome Back Maurice!


 
Yahoo! Groups Links






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[scifinoir2] Fireball & Lunar Eclipse and more

[Amy Harlib]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



> Notes on the big Pacific Fireball from early Tues AM (Pacific time)... 
> also, there's a Lunar Eclipse tonight (Wed 2/20 - next one's in 2010) ... 
> should be fun... plus other info available here: http://spaceweather.com/
>
> There's a nice animated lunar eclipse page, too :)
> http://shadowandsubstance.com/
>
> Anyone planning on watching
>

[scifinoir2] Hopes rise for finding alien Earths

[Amy Harlib]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject:  Hopes rise for finding alien Earths


> URL to an article in MSNBC
> _http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23212185/_
> (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23212185/)
>
> First few paragraphs
> "
> BOSTON - Rocky planets like Earth  could be found around most sunlike 
> stars
> in our galaxy, new research suggests,  further raising hopes that 
> scientists
> will someday find E.T. or at least  primitive life beyond our solar 
> system.
> The finding is based on an  analysis of dust around 309 stars with masses
> comparable to our sun.
> NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope was  able to detect the heat that radiated
> from the dust, "not unlike the smoke  you'll see rising from chimneys 
> around here
> in the Boston area on a cold day,"  said researcher Michael Meyer of the
> University of Arizona.
>
>
> Meyer  and his colleagues found "warm" dust, between minus 280 and 80 
> degrees
> Fahrenheit (-173 to 27 degrees Celsius), orbiting at an estimated distance
> from  their stars in the same range that Earth and Jupiter are found in 
> _our
> solar system_
> (http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagegallery/igviewer.php?imgid=4162&gid=298)
>  
> . This allowed them to infer the presence of  colliding
> larger rocky bodies, and to estimate that at least 20 percent and up  to 
> as many as
> 60 percent of the sunlike stars in our galaxy's disk could give  rise to
> _rocky planets like Earth_
> (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060125_smallest_planet.html) .
>
>
> "From those observations of dust,  we infer the presence of colliding 
> larger
> rocky bodies, not unlike asteroids and  other things in our solar system 
> that
> we know bang together and generate dust,"  Meyer told reporters here at 
> the
> annual meeting of the American Association for  the Advancement of 
> Science. "By
> tracing that dust, we trace these dynamical  processes that we think led 
> to
> the formation of the terrestrial planets in our  solar system."
> The best guess scientists have for  the time scale of the formation of 
> Earth,
> as a result of collisions, is when our  sun was between 10 million to 50
> million years old (it is now about 4.6 billion  years old). Meyer found 
> the warm
> dust trails in stars between 3 million and 300  million years old. "

[scifinoir2] Fw: World Science: Brain cells tied to consciousness reported

[Amy Harlib]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fascinating science stuff.


* Moon systems, not planets, may be place to 
find life:
Alien life might be both easier and more interesting
to discover through a new strategy, a study suggests.

http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/080219_jupiters


* Brain cells tied to consciousness reported 
found:
Trying to understand what causes consciousness is
one of the most exasperating problems in all science.

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/080219_conscious


* Music may aid stroke recovery:
New findings suggest music helps stimulate repair 
of brain wiring, researchers report.

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/080219_stroke-music


* Study links heavy cell phone use to cancer:
Increased risk of salivary gland tumors might be
avoidable by using hands-free devices, scientists say.

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/080216_cellphone


* Salt might have thwarted Martian life:
New research may narrow the possibilities for where
and when microbes could have lived on the red planet.

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/080215_mars-salt





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Re: [scifinoir2] Scientists Create a Black That Erases Virtually All Light

[Amy Harlib]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Totally fascinating and very SFnal.


> Their Deepest, Darkest Discovery
> Scientists Create a Black That Erases Virtually All Light
>
> By Rick Weiss
> Washington Post Staff Writer
> Wednesday, February 20, 2008; A01
>
> Black is getting blacker.
>
> Researchers in New York reported this month that they have created a
> paper-thin material that absorbs 99.955 percent of the light that hits
> it, making it by far the darkest substance ever made -- about 30 times
> as dark as the government's current standard for blackest black.
>
> The material, made of hollow fibers, is a Roach Motel for photons -- 
> light checks in, but it never checks out. By voraciously sucking up all
> surrounding illumination, it can give those who gaze on it a dizzying
> sensation of nothingness.
>
> "It's very deep, like in a forest on the darkest night," said Shawn-Yu
> Lin, a scientist who helped create the material at Rensselaer
> Polytechnic Institute in Troy, N.Y. "Nothing comes back to you. It's
> very, very, very dark."
>
> But scientists are not satisfied. Using other new materials, some are
> trying to manufacture rudimentary Harry Potter-like cloaks that make
> objects inside of them literally invisible under the right conditions -- 
> the pinnacle of stealthy technology.
>
> Both advances reflect researchers' growing ability to manipulate light,
> the fleetest and most evanescent of nature's offerings. The nascent
> invisibility cloak now being tested, for example, is made of a material
> that bends light rays "backward," a weird phenomenon thought to be
> impossible just a few years ago.
>
> Known as transformation optics, the phenomenon compels some wavelengths
> of light to flow around an object like water around a stone. As a
> result, things behind the object become visible while the object itself
> disappears from view.
>
> "Cloaking is just the tip of the iceberg," said Vladimir Shalaev, a
> professor of electrical and computer engineering at Purdue University
> and an expert in the fledgling field. "With transformation optics you
> can do many other tricks," perhaps including making things appear to be
> located where they are not and focusing massive amounts of energy on
> microscopic spots.
>
> U.S. military and intelligence agencies have funded the cloaking
> research "for obvious reasons," said David Schurig, a physicist and
> electrical engineer at North Carolina State University who recently
> designed and helped test a cloaking device. In that experiment, a
> shielded object a little smaller than a hockey puck was made invisible
> to a detector that uses microwaves to "see."
>
> The first working cloaks will be limited that way, he said -- able to
> steer just a limited part of the light spectrum around objects -- and it
> could be years before scientists make cloaks that work for all
> wavelengths, including the visible spectrum used by the human eye.
>
> But even cloaks that work on just a few key wavelengths could offer huge
> benefits, making objects invisible to laser beams used for weapons
> targeting, for example, or rendering an enemy's night goggles useless
> because objects would be invisible to the infrared rays those devices use.
>
> The Defense Department did not fund development of the new
> blacker-than-black material, created by Lin and his colleagues. But
> military officials were among the first to call after a description of
> the work appeared in this month's issue of the journal Nano Letters, Lin
> said in an interview.
>
> Substances that absorb every smidgeon of incoming visible light could
> complement existing stealth coatings that absorb radar waves, Lin said.
> He and others emphasized, however, that there are also peaceful and more
> immediate applications for the blackest stuff on Earth.
>
> Solar panels coated with it would be much more efficient than those
> coated with conventional black paint, which reflects 5 percent or more
> of incoming light. Telescopes lined with it would sop up random flecks
> of incident light, providing a blacker background to detect faint stars.
>
> And a wide array of heat detectors and energy-measuring devices,
> including climate-tracking equipment on satellites, would become far
> more accurate than they are today if they were coated with
> energy-grabbing superblack.
>
> That helps explain why Lin has been fielding queries from solar-energy
> companies such as SolFocus of Mountain View, Calif., and the European
> Space Agency.
>
> "The more black the material the better," said Gerald Fraser, a
> physicist at the National Institute of Standards and Technology, the
> federal agency that specializes in fine measurements and industrial
> standards.
>
> That agency offers scientists a chemical mix it calls "standard black,"
> which for years has been the defining measure of blackness.
> Photographers and printers use it to calibrate their gray scales.
> Industrial radiologists use it to calibrate X-ray imaging systems that
> det

[scifinoir2] Fw: News Release: Satellite Shoot Down is an Anti-Satellite Test

[Amy Harlib]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]





SATELLITE SHOOT DOWN NOTHING MORE 

THAN ANTI-SATELLITE TEST

 

 

For Immediate Release
 

Contact:  Bruce Gagnon 207-443-9502
 

 

The planned Pentagon shoot down of the wayward U.S. military satellite is 
nothing more than an opportunity to test new Star Wars anti-satellite weapons 
(ASAT) technology says the Global Network Against Weapons & Nuclear Power in 
Space.  

 

"The Bush administration is magnifying the risk to justify the testing of new 
dangerous and provocative offensive space warfare technologies," says Bruce 
Gagnon, Coordinator of the Global Network, which is based in Maine.

 

"At the time when we need to be constraining space debris-creating ASAT 
testing, this test will throw open the door to a new arms race in space."

 

The Strategic Command's (StratCom) high-tech Global Operations Center, buried 
beneath Offutt AFB in Omaha, Nebraska, will play the lead role in coordinating 
the ASAT test.  StratCom now heads all military space operations since merging 
with the U.S. Space Command in 2002.

 

"The decision to destroy the American satellite does not look harmless as they 
try to claim, especially at a time when the U.S. has been evading negotiations 
on the limitation of an arms race in outer space," a Russian Defense Ministry 
statement has concluded.

 

For many years Russia and China have gone to the United Nations General 
Assembly with a resolution calling for a treaty to ban all weapons in space.  
The U.S. and Israel have annually voted against the treaty while every other 
nation in the world supports such a new legal ban on space weapons.  The U.S. 
aerospace industry says that Star Wars will be the largest industrial project 
in the history of the planet Earth.

 

Global Network board member Stacey Fritz, Coordinator of No Nukes North in 
Alaska where so-called missile defense interceptors have been deployed says, "A 
culmination of events this month reveals the true direction of space weapons 
technology.  China and Russia have formally proposed a new ban on space weapons 
on the heels of polls showing widespread public support for such a treaty in 
both the U.S. and Russia. Not only does the U.S. refuse to consider the ban, 
but also after denying for years that these systems have offensive 
capabilities, the rogue Bush administration proposes to demonstrate missile 
defense's anti-satellite technology.  The doors of the Trojan horse are 
spilling open and the new arms race is on."

 

Three U.S. Navy Aegis destroyers, outfitted with missile interceptors, will 
fire at the satellite as it falls back to Earth from positions just off Hawaii. 
 These same Aegis ships are now being home ported by the Navy throughout the 
Asian-Pacific region giving the U.S. the ability to encircle China's coast.  
These Aegis ships could give the U.S. the ability to intercept China's twenty 
nuclear missiles that today are capable of reaching the west coast of the 
continental U.S.  The Pentagon has been war-gaming a U.S. first-strike attack 
on China, set in 2016, for the past several years.  In that attack the Aegis 
ships would negate China's nuclear retaliatory force by intercepting their 
missiles in the boost phase.

 

The Global Network is made up of more than 140-affiliated peace groups around 
the world working to halt the nuclearization and weaponization of space.

 

For more information see www.space4peace.org 

 

- END -

 


Global Network Against Weapons & Nuclear Power in Space
PO Box 652
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[scifinoir2] Fw: Get Inside The WikiLeaks Issue Quickly From Here

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Subject: Get Inside The WikiLeaks Issue Quickly From Here


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[scifinoir2] Maurice is Back?

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

Welcome Back Maurice!


 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I saw it.  It definitely was not theater worthy, but I think it would be 
a great TV show.  I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
mythology and laws were good too.  Unfortunately, it came across like a 
pilot movie for a scifi tv show.   To mad it is not a tv series



ravenadal wrote:
> To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all superpowers.  
> Couple it with a "proximity sense," keen hearing (so you can hear 
> when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), 
> or just plain "common sense" and you have one heck of a skill set!
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "DJ VIBE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>>  
>> 
>>>  On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal  wrote:
>>>  >
>>>  
>>>  > There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen 
>>>   
>> it)
>> 
>>>  >
>>>  >  SPOILER
>>>  >  
>>>   
> ALERT!!
>   
>>>  >
>>>  >  where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane 
>>>   
>> Karina on
>> 
>>>  >  his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, 
>>>   
>> where he
>> 
>>>  >  has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with 
>>>   
> great 
>   
>> power!
>> 
>>>  >
>>>   
>> It was right in keeping with how his character was established in 
>> the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of 
>> using his abilities for good.  
>>
>> Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception.  How 
>> 
> the 
>   
>> hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers?  Its one thing if 
>> you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who 
>> is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your 
>> stun-wand, how are you gonna get him?  In less than three minutes, 
>> my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation 
>> 
> power 
>   
>> offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la 
>> Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no 
>> normal human would have a chance against a jumper.
>>
>> 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: talking about your women

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

you would think he would not want to put any ideas in my head.

ravenadal wrote:
> This is funny because A)apparently your husband(?) sent it to you and 
> B) it is true!
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly 
> Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Since you guys are always discussing your women, I thought i would 
>> forward this to you
>>
>> Chris de Morsella wrote:
>> 
>>> The FBI had an opening for an assassin.
>>> After all the background checks, interviews and testing were 
>>>   
> done, there
>   
>>> were 3 finalists; two men and a woman.
>>>
>>>
>>> For the final test, the FBI agents took one of the men to a large 
>>>   
> metal
>   
>>> door and handed him a gun.
>>>
>>>
>>> 'We must know that you will follow your instructions no matter 
>>>   
> what the
>   
>>> circumstances. Inside the room you will find your wife sitting in 
>>>   
> a
>   
>>> chair . . . Kill her!!'
>>>
>>> The man said, 'You can't be serious. I could never shoot my wife.'
>>> The agent said, 'Then you're not the right man for this job. Take 
>>>   
> your
>   
>>> wife and go home.'
>>>
>>> The second man was given the same instructions. He took the gun 
>>>   
> and went
>   
>>> into the room. All was quiet for a bout 5 minutes. The man came 
>>>   
> out with
>   
>>> tears in his eyes, 'I tried, but I can't kill my wife.' The agent 
>>>   
> said,
>   
>>> 'You don't have what it takes. Take your wife and
>>> go home.'
>>>
>>> Finally, it was the woman's turn. She was given the same 
>>>   
> instructions, to
>   
>>> kill her husband. She took the gun and went into the room. Shots 
>>>   
> were
>   
>>> heard, one after another. They heard screaming, crashing, banging 
>>>   
> on the
>   
>>> walls. After a few minutes, all was quiet. The door opened slowly 
>>>   
> and
>   
>>> there stood the woman, wiping the sweat from her brow.
>>>  
>>> 'This gun is loaded with blanks' she said. 'I had to beat him to 
>>>   
> death
>   
>>> with the chair.'
>>>  
>>> MORAL:
>>> Women are crazy. Don't mess with them
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>   
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[scifinoir2] Re: John McCain emphatically denies romantic relationship

[ravenadal]

This article prompted me to google McCain, I shouldn't have been but 
I was surprised at how much is his official biography fails to jibe 
with his myth.  Did he or didn't he?  After reading the below, I 
suspect he DID.

~rave!

Following in the footsteps of his father and grandfather, John Sidney 
McCain III entered the United States Naval Academy. McCain was a 
rebellious midshipman, and his career at the Naval Academy was 
ambivalent and lackluster. He had his share of run-ins with the 
faculty and leadership; each year he was given over 100 demerits (for 
unshined shoes, formation faults, talking out of place, and the like) 
earning him membership in the "Century Club." He did not take well to 
those of higher rank arbitrarily wielding power over him — "It was 
bullshit, and I resented the hell out of it"

McCain was then commissioned an ensign, and spent two and a half 
years as a naval aviator in training at Naval Air Station Pensacola 
in Florida and Naval Air Station Corpus Christi in Texas, flying A-1 
Skyraiders. He earned a reputation as a party man, as he drove a 
Corvette, dated an exotic dancer named "Marie the Flame of Florida", 
and, as he would later say, "generally misused my good health and 
youth."

Stationed at Naval Air Station Cecil Field outside Jacksonville, 
Florida (1974), the McCains' marriage began to falter. McCain had 
extramarital affairs, and he would later say, "My marriage's collapse 
was attributable to my own selfishness and immaturity more than it 
was to Vietnam, and I cannot escape blame by pointing a finger at the 
war. The blame was entirely mine."[84] His wife Carol would later 
echo those sentiments, saying "I attribute [the breakup of our 
marriage] more to John turning 40 and wanting to be 25 again than I 
do to anything else."  

McCain met his current wife, Cindy Lou, in April 1979 and divorced 
his first wife in April 1980. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> Gee I WONDER WHERE this story came from?
> 
> The sad thing is is that this will  be taken out of context and the 
focus
> will be on the implied romantic side of their relationship,  which 
they both
> deny, instead of ³...and why does he have lobbyists as friends?²
> 
> Whatever Obama has in his closet, now would be a good tie to get it 
out.
> It¹s about to go down.
> 
> 
> On 2/21/08 1:12 PM, "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080221/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_lobbyist
> > 
> > McCain says report on lobbyist not true By LIBBY QUAID, Associated
> > 
> > 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
> >  
> > 
> > John McCain emphatically denied a romantic relationship with a 
female
> > telecommunications lobbyist on Thursday and said a report by The 
New
> > York Times suggesting favoritism for her clients is "not true."
> > 
> > "I'm very disappointed in the article. It's not true," the likely
> > Republican presidential nominee said as his wife, Cindy, stood 
beside
> > him during a news conference called to address the matter.
> > 
> > "I've served this nation honorably for more than half a century,"
> > said McCain, a four-term Arizona senator and former Navy 
pilot. "At
> > no time have I ever done anything that would betray the public 
trust."
> > 
> > "I intend to move on," he added.
> > 
> > McCain described the woman in question, lobbyist Vicki Iseman, as 
a
> > friend.
> > 
> > The newspaper quoted anonymous aides as saying they had urged 
McCain
> > and Iseman to stay away from each other prior to his failed
> > presidential campaign in 2000. In its own follow-up story, The
> > Washington Post quoted longtime aide John Weaver, who split with
> > McCain last year, as saying he met with lobbyist Iseman and urged 
her
> > to steer clear of McCain.
> > 
> > Weaver told the Times he arranged the meeting before the 2000
> > campaign after "a discussion among the campaign leadership" about
> > Iseman.
> > 
> > But McCain said he was unaware of any such conversation, and 
denied
> > that his aides ever tried to talk to him about his interactions 
with
> > Iseman.
> > 
> > "I never discussed it with John Weaver. As far as I know, there 
was
> > no necessity for it," McCain said. "I don't know anything about 
it,"
> > he added. "John Weaver is a friend of mine. He remains a friend of
> > mine. But I certainly didn't know anything of that nature."
> > 
> > His wife also s

Re: [scifinoir2] "Chuck" wins battle of "Big Box Nerds"!

[Daryle Lockhart]

Smartest thing  NBC¹s done since the Tonight Show.

³Chuck² and ³Life² were my favorite new shows. Too bad ³Journeyman² didn¹t
make it. 


On 2/21/08 12:49 PM, "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  
>  
>  
> 
> "Chuck" wins the battle of the "Big Box Nerds"!  Woo Hoo!  Oh, wait, I
> never saw an episode of "Chuck."
> 
> Nevermind.
> 
> ~rave!
> 
> Heroes, Chuck and Life Renewed by NBC
> Network confirms the three series will be back this fall.
> by IGN Staff
> http://tv.ign.com/articles/852/852011p1.html
> 
>  
> 




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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Preview: Knight Rider Is Back!

[KeithBJohnson]

the intro scene I saw, she was fully clothed and packing her gun, saying 
goodbye to the lady--that's right--she evidently picked up at a bar the night 
before

-- Original message -- 
From: "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Okay. I get it. Knight Rider redux = BAD. More importantly, is it 
true that the ravishing Sydney Poitner (JR.) essayed her part of her 
part in her underwear?

I just wanna know before I DVR the repeat on Saturday.

~rave!


 

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Re: [scifinoir2] John McCain emphatically denies romantic relationship

[Daryle Lockhart]

Gee I WONDER WHERE this story came from?

The sad thing is is that this will  be taken out of context and the focus
will be on the implied romantic side of their relationship,  which they both
deny, instead of ³...and why does he have lobbyists as friends?²

Whatever Obama has in his closet, now would be a good tie to get it out.
It¹s about to go down.


On 2/21/08 1:12 PM, "ravenadal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  
>  
>  
> 
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080221/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_lobbyist
> 
> McCain says report on lobbyist not true By LIBBY QUAID, Associated
> 
> 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
>  
> 
> John McCain emphatically denied a romantic relationship with a female
> telecommunications lobbyist on Thursday and said a report by The New
> York Times suggesting favoritism for her clients is "not true."
> 
> "I'm very disappointed in the article. It's not true," the likely
> Republican presidential nominee said as his wife, Cindy, stood beside
> him during a news conference called to address the matter.
> 
> "I've served this nation honorably for more than half a century,"
> said McCain, a four-term Arizona senator and former Navy pilot. "At
> no time have I ever done anything that would betray the public trust."
> 
> "I intend to move on," he added.
> 
> McCain described the woman in question, lobbyist Vicki Iseman, as a
> friend.
> 
> The newspaper quoted anonymous aides as saying they had urged McCain
> and Iseman to stay away from each other prior to his failed
> presidential campaign in 2000. In its own follow-up story, The
> Washington Post quoted longtime aide John Weaver, who split with
> McCain last year, as saying he met with lobbyist Iseman and urged her
> to steer clear of McCain.
> 
> Weaver told the Times he arranged the meeting before the 2000
> campaign after "a discussion among the campaign leadership" about
> Iseman.
> 
> But McCain said he was unaware of any such conversation, and denied
> that his aides ever tried to talk to him about his interactions with
> Iseman.
> 
> "I never discussed it with John Weaver. As far as I know, there was
> no necessity for it," McCain said. "I don't know anything about it,"
> he added. "John Weaver is a friend of mine. He remains a friend of
> mine. But I certainly didn't know anything of that nature."
> 
> His wife also said she was disappointed with the newspaper.
> 
> "More importantly, my children and I not only trust my husband, but
> know that he would never do anything to not only disappoint our
> family, but disappoint the people of America. He's a man of great
> character," Cindy McCain said.
> 
> The couple smiled throughout the questioning at a Toledo hotel.
> 
> "We think the story speaks for itself," Times executive editor Bill
> Keller said in a written statement Thursday. "On the timing, our
> policy is we publish stories when they are ready."
> 
> McCain's remaining rival for the Republican nomination, former
> Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, called McCain "a good decent honorable
> man" and said he accepted McCain's response.
> 
> "I've campaigned now on the same stage or platform with John McCain
> for 14 months. I only know him to be a man of integrity," Huckabee
> said in Houston. "Today he denied any of that was true. I take him at
> his word. For me to get into it is completely immaterial."
> 
> The published reports said McCain and Iseman each denied having a
> romantic relationship. Neither story asserted that there was a
> romantic relationship and offered no evidence that there was,
> reporting only that aides worried about the appearance of McCain
> having close ties to a lobbyist with business before the Senate
> Commerce Committee on which McCain served.
> 
> The stories also allege that McCain wrote letters and pushed
> legislation involving television station ownership that would have
> benefited Iseman's clients.
> 
> In late 1999, McCain twice wrote letters to the Federal
> Communications Commission on behalf of Florida-based Paxson
> Communications — which had paid Iseman as its lobbyist — urging quick
> consideration of a proposal to buy a television station license in
> Pittsburgh. At the time, Paxson's chief executive, Lowell W. "Bud"
> Paxson, also was a major contributor to McCain's 2000 presidential
> campaign. 
> 
> McCain did not urge the FCC commissioners to approve the proposal,
> but he asked for speedy consideration of the deal, which was pending
> from two years earlier. In an unusual response, then-FCC 

[scifinoir2] John McCain emphatically denies romantic relationship

[ravenadal]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080221/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_lobbyist

McCain says report on lobbyist not true By LIBBY QUAID, Associated 

1 hour, 44 minutes ago
 


John McCain emphatically denied a romantic relationship with a female 
telecommunications lobbyist on Thursday and said a report by The New 
York Times suggesting favoritism for her clients is "not true."

"I'm very disappointed in the article. It's not true," the likely 
Republican presidential nominee said as his wife, Cindy, stood beside 
him during a news conference called to address the matter.

"I've served this nation honorably for more than half a century," 
said McCain, a four-term Arizona senator and former Navy pilot. "At 
no time have I ever done anything that would betray the public trust."

"I intend to move on," he added.

McCain described the woman in question, lobbyist Vicki Iseman, as a 
friend.

The newspaper quoted anonymous aides as saying they had urged McCain 
and Iseman to stay away from each other prior to his failed 
presidential campaign in 2000. In its own follow-up story, The 
Washington Post quoted longtime aide John Weaver, who split with 
McCain last year, as saying he met with lobbyist Iseman and urged her 
to steer clear of McCain.

Weaver told the Times he arranged the meeting before the 2000 
campaign after "a discussion among the campaign leadership" about 
Iseman.

But McCain said he was unaware of any such conversation, and denied 
that his aides ever tried to talk to him about his interactions with 
Iseman.

"I never discussed it with John Weaver. As far as I know, there was 
no necessity for it," McCain said. "I don't know anything about it," 
he added. "John Weaver is a friend of mine. He remains a friend of 
mine. But I certainly didn't know anything of that nature."

His wife also said she was disappointed with the newspaper.

"More importantly, my children and I not only trust my husband, but 
know that he would never do anything to not only disappoint our 
family, but disappoint the people of America. He's a man of great 
character," Cindy McCain said.

The couple smiled throughout the questioning at a Toledo hotel.

"We think the story speaks for itself," Times executive editor Bill 
Keller said in a written statement Thursday. "On the timing, our 
policy is we publish stories when they are ready."

McCain's remaining rival for the Republican nomination, former 
Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, called McCain "a good decent honorable 
man" and said he accepted McCain's response.

"I've campaigned now on the same stage or platform with John McCain 
for 14 months. I only know him to be a man of integrity," Huckabee 
said in Houston. "Today he denied any of that was true. I take him at 
his word. For me to get into it is completely immaterial."

The published reports said McCain and Iseman each denied having a 
romantic relationship. Neither story asserted that there was a 
romantic relationship and offered no evidence that there was, 
reporting only that aides worried about the appearance of McCain 
having close ties to a lobbyist with business before the Senate 
Commerce Committee on which McCain served.

The stories also allege that McCain wrote letters and pushed 
legislation involving television station ownership that would have 
benefited Iseman's clients.

In late 1999, McCain twice wrote letters to the Federal 
Communications Commission on behalf of Florida-based Paxson 
Communications — which had paid Iseman as its lobbyist — urging quick 
consideration of a proposal to buy a television station license in 
Pittsburgh. At the time, Paxson's chief executive, Lowell W. "Bud" 
Paxson, also was a major contributor to McCain's 2000 presidential 
campaign. 

McCain did not urge the FCC commissioners to approve the proposal, 
but he asked for speedy consideration of the deal, which was pending 
from two years earlier. In an unusual response, then-FCC Chairman 
William Kennard complained that McCain's request "comes at a 
sensitive time in the deliberative process" and "could have 
procedural and substantive impacts on the commission's deliberations 
and, thus, on the due process rights of the parties." 

McCain wrote the letters after he received more than $20,000 in 
contributions from Paxson executives and lobbyists. Paxson also lent 
McCain his company's jet at least four times during 1999 for campaign 
travel. 

"Riding on the airplane was an accepted practice," McCain said 
Thursday, adding that he supported a change in rules since then. As 
for the letters, he said: "I said I'm not telling you how to make a 
decision; I'm just telling you that you should move forward and make 
a decision on this issue. I believe that 

[scifinoir2] Re: talking about your women

[ravenadal]

This is funny because A)apparently your husband(?) sent it to you and 
B) it is true!

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly 
Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Since you guys are always discussing your women, I thought i would 
> forward this to you
> 
> Chris de Morsella wrote:
> > The FBI had an opening for an assassin.
> > After all the background checks, interviews and testing were 
done, there
> > were 3 finalists; two men and a woman.
> > 
> > 
> > For the final test, the FBI agents took one of the men to a large 
metal
> > door and handed him a gun.
> > 
> > 
> > 'We must know that you will follow your instructions no matter 
what the
> > circumstances. Inside the room you will find your wife sitting in 
a
> > chair . . . Kill her!!'
> > 
> > The man said, 'You can't be serious. I could never shoot my wife.'
> > The agent said, 'Then you're not the right man for this job. Take 
your
> > wife and go home.'
> > 
> > The second man was given the same instructions. He took the gun 
and went
> > into the room. All was quiet for a bout 5 minutes. The man came 
out with
> > tears in his eyes, 'I tried, but I can't kill my wife.' The agent 
said,
> > 'You don't have what it takes. Take your wife and
> > go home.'
> > 
> > Finally, it was the woman's turn. She was given the same 
instructions, to
> > 
> > kill her husband. She took the gun and went into the room. Shots 
were
> > heard, one after another. They heard screaming, crashing, banging 
on the
> > walls. After a few minutes, all was quiet. The door opened slowly 
and
> > there stood the woman, wiping the sweat from her brow.
> >  
> > 'This gun is loaded with blanks' she said. 'I had to beat him to 
death
> > with the chair.'
> >  
> > MORAL:
> > Women are crazy. Don't mess with them
> > 
> >  
> >
>

[scifinoir2] Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

[ravenadal]

To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all superpowers.  
Couple it with a "proximity sense," keen hearing (so you can hear 
when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), 
or just plain "common sense" and you have one heck of a skill set!

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "DJ VIBE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
> >  On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal  wrote:
> >  >
> >  
> >  > There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen 
> it)
> >  >
> >  >  SPOILER
> >  >  
ALERT!!
> >  >
> >  >  where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane 
> Karina on
> >  >  his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, 
> where he
> >  >  has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with 
great 
> power!
> >  >
> 
> 
> It was right in keeping with how his character was established in 
> the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of 
> using his abilities for good.  
> 
> Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception.  How 
the 
> hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers?  Its one thing if 
> you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who 
> is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your 
> stun-wand, how are you gonna get him?  In less than three minutes, 
> my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation 
power 
> offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la 
> Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no 
> normal human would have a chance against a jumper.
>

[scifinoir2] Re: Preview: Knight Rider Is Back!

[ravenadal]

Okay.  I get it.  Knight Rider redux = BAD.  More importantly, is it 
true that the ravishing Sydney Poitner (JR.) essayed her part of her 
part in her underwear?

I just wanna know before I DVR the repeat on Saturday.

~rave!

[scifinoir2] "Chuck" wins battle of "Big Box Nerds"!

[ravenadal]

"Chuck" wins the battle of the "Big Box Nerds"!  Woo Hoo!  Oh, wait, I 
never saw an episode of "Chuck."

Nevermind.

~rave!

Heroes, Chuck and Life Renewed by NBC
Network confirms the three series will be back this fall.
by IGN Staff
http://tv.ign.com/articles/852/852011p1.html

[scifinoir2] Rescue Vehicle

[Reece Jennings]

 
ECNALUBMA (ek na lub' ma) n. A rescue vehicle that can only be seen in 
the rearview mirror.
 
 
 :o)
 
 
 


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