Re: [scifinoir2] $175 burger: you want gold with that?

2008-05-21 Thread Daryle Lockhart

Well, you  know Bill Gates and Warren Buffet eat free at McDonald's  
for life. This is a working stiff's platter.

On May 20, 2008, at 5:39 PM, Martin wrote:

 I'll just take the gold, thank you. Oh, did anyone forward this to  
 Billy-Boy Gates or Larry Ellison? They might want to take their  
 families out for a snack. :P

 ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Enough of this Obama talk -  
 lets talk about something REALLY
 important like...$175 hamburgers!)

 ~rave!

 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080520/od_nm/hamburger_dc

 $175 burger: you want gold with that? By Daniel Trotta

 2 hours, 20 minutes ago


 Its creators admit it is the ultimate in decadence: a $175 hamburger.

 The Wall Street Burger Shoppe just raised its price from $150 to
 assure its designation as the costliest burger in the city as
 determined by Pocket Change, an online newsletter about the most
 expensive things in New York.

 Wall Street has good days and bad days. We wanted to have the
 everyday burger (for $4) ... and then something special if you really
 have a good day on Wall Street, said co-owner Heather Tierney.

 The burger, created by chef and co-owner Kevin O'Connell, seeks to
 justify its price with a Kobe beef patty, lots of black truffles,
 seared foie gras, aged Gruyere cheese, wild mushrooms and flecks of
 gold leaf on a brioche bun.

 The eatery sells 20 or 25 per month in the fine dining room upstairs
 versus hundreds of $4 burgers each day at the diner counter
 downstairs, Tierney said.

 Pocket Change previously designated the double truffle burger at
 Daniel Boulud's DB Bistro Moderne as the most expensive at $120, and
 the Burger Shoppe set out to top that.

 Boulud's creation -- available only during black truffle season from
 December to March -- rose to $150 this past season, so the Burger
 Shoppe raised its price on Monday to $175.

 Our burger is not about the price, said Georgette Farkas, a Boulud
 spokeswoman. If you are making something concerned only about the
 price, you are off in the wrong direction.

 Without truffles, Boulud's burger costs $32. It has a ground sirloin
 patty stuffed with red wine braised short ribs.

 O'Connell said the Burger Shoppe was finding the ultimate expression
 of each one of the ingredients.

 The concept was like a mushroom-bacon-Swiss cheese burger, which is
 my favorite sort of burger, he said.

 The burger comes with golden truffle mayonnaise, Belgian-style fries
 and a mixed greens and tomato salad. O'Connell pairs the dish with
 many fine wines, a lager or a toasted brown beer, or ginger ale.

 Copyright © 2008 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication
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 the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for
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 reliance thereon.





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 will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut,  
 A Man Without A Country


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2008-05-21 Thread Daryle Lockhart

Jim Rhodes is a pretty important character in the Iron Man books.   
What's been twisted in he movie is that Rhodie actually helped build  
the suits, and gets one fo his own.

On May 20, 2008, at 10:33 PM, ravenadal wrote:

 How is it that Terrence Howard can play a legendary character on the
 New York stage but is stuck as the sidekick who's jealous of Robert
 Downey Jr.'s hardware in Iron Man?

 http://www.boston.com/ae/movies/articles/2008/05/17/a_black_hole/

 A black hole

 African-Americans are blazing creative trails in music, TV, and stage.
 In film, the choice is either bawdy and preachy or earnest but safe -
 with a void in between.

 By Wesley Morris, Globe Staff | May 18, 2008

 few weeks ago I got to see Terrence Howard and Anika Noni Rose play
 Brick and Maggie the Cat in Debbie Allen's Broadway production of
 Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. I went home depressed. Not because the show
 was bad, although, in its clanging way, it is. I was depressed because
 for all its shortcomings, the show was a big entertainment event that
 doesn't happen much in the movies: It had premium melodrama and black
 stars being starry. As a moviegoer, I hurt for that kind of glamour.

 I felt the same hangover leaving an exhilarating concert by Erykah
 Badu and the Roots earlier this month, and watching both The Wire,
 which just said goodbye to us and HBO, and the staggering acting in
 that production of A Raisin in the Sun ABC aired in February: Why
 isn't black life this interesting, vibrant, or complex at the movies?
 How is it that Terrence Howard can play a legendary character on the
 New York stage but is stuck as the sidekick who's jealous of Robert
 Downey Jr.'s hardware in Iron Man?

 When it comes to black America, the movies are stagnating. Well, when
 it comes to any nonwhite male subject matter at the movies, the
 pickings are slim. But there's such a wealth of black stars,
 producers, and directors that the scarcity of movies - big-ticket or
 small, serious or light - focused on the lives of black people, is
 surreal. There's a gaping entertainment void. It's not just the lack
 of quantity. It's the lack of variety. Despite the usual death notices
 posted for hip-hop, black popular music is alive and well.

 At the moment, black movies come in two flavors: uplift dramas and
 Tyler Perry. The first is represented by all those feel-good movies -
 Akeelah and the Bee, Stomp the Yard, Pride, The Great Debaters
 - that, bless their hearts, wanted to empower us, but that nobody
 flocked to see. Message movies are a great notion but tricky as
 entertainment. The makers of these films have this noble but somewhat
 misguided idea that the average black moviegoer wants to feel like
 she's in school.

 Perry's megaplex successes suggest that the average black moviegoer
 wants to feel like she's in church. His movies have sermons. His
 movies have soap opera. And, increasingly, his movies have stars. In
 the past, I've said only somewhat jestingly that a Tyler Perry movie
 is where black actors go to get back in touch with their roots. (The
 prim, post-Nipplegate Janet Jackson who showed up in Why Did I Get
 Married? wasn't just making a movie, she was asking for forgiveness.)
 But now a Tyler Perry movie is where a black actor goes to act. Angela
 Bassett is the star of Meet the Browns. Daddy's Little Girls had
 Gabrielle Union and Idris Elba. And the movie that Perry, who
 essentially works without Hollywood's help, is currently filming has
 Alfre Woodard, Sanaa Lathan, and the loveable Taraji P. Henson, that
 pregnant, hook-belting hooker from Hustle  Flow.

 It doesn't do any good to discount the value of Tyler Perry, and he
 certainly can't be - should not be - ignored. Perry knows what an
 audience wants, and he delivers - with Woody Allen's regularity, too.
 These things tend to come in waves (remember the Wayans brothers'
 racial funhouses from a few years ago?). But Perry is more than a
 ripple. He is black movies right now. His style has inspired studio
 executives to look, wittingly or not, for movies with either Perry's
 clumsy farce (see last winter's The Perfect Holiday or First
 Sunday - on second thought: don't) or his ensemble comic-melodrama
 (This Christmas).

 That's a problem. There's no art in these movies. There's no style.
 And Perry's success, through no fault of his own, limits what chances
 the studios are willing to take on black movies. Rickety ghetto
 comedies, prefab movie biographies, and feel-good historical dramas
 tailor-made for NAACP Image Award contention are one thing. But a
 serious, thoughtful act of filmmaking or some real Hollywood glamour
 is rare.

 Last year, Denzel Washington found himself at two extremes. He
 directed and starred in The Great Debaters, a historical drama that
 used a feel-good formula to tell the somewhat-true story of a Texas
 debate team in the 1930s. It was meant to enlighten and inspire the
 young men and women in the audience. But it was his
 

Re: [scifinoir2] A black hole

2008-05-21 Thread Astromancer
Yeah...Funny how that happened...

Daryle Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
Jim Rhodes is a pretty important character in the Iron Man books. 
What's been twisted in he movie is that Rhodie actually helped build 
the suits, and gets one fo his own.

On May 20, 2008, at 10:33 PM, ravenadal wrote:

 How is it that Terrence Howard can play a legendary character on the
 New York stage but is stuck as the sidekick who's jealous of Robert
 Downey Jr.'s hardware in Iron Man?

 http://www.boston.com/ae/movies/articles/2008/05/17/a_black_hole/

 A black hole

 African-Americans are blazing creative trails in music, TV, and stage.
 In film, the choice is either bawdy and preachy or earnest but safe -
 with a void in between.

 By Wesley Morris, Globe Staff | May 18, 2008

 few weeks ago I got to see Terrence Howard and Anika Noni Rose play
 Brick and Maggie the Cat in Debbie Allen's Broadway production of
 Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. I went home depressed. Not because the show
 was bad, although, in its clanging way, it is. I was depressed because
 for all its shortcomings, the show was a big entertainment event that
 doesn't happen much in the movies: It had premium melodrama and black
 stars being starry. As a moviegoer, I hurt for that kind of glamour.

 I felt the same hangover leaving an exhilarating concert by Erykah
 Badu and the Roots earlier this month, and watching both The Wire,
 which just said goodbye to us and HBO, and the staggering acting in
 that production of A Raisin in the Sun ABC aired in February: Why
 isn't black life this interesting, vibrant, or complex at the movies?
 How is it that Terrence Howard can play a legendary character on the
 New York stage but is stuck as the sidekick who's jealous of Robert
 Downey Jr.'s hardware in Iron Man?

 When it comes to black America, the movies are stagnating. Well, when
 it comes to any nonwhite male subject matter at the movies, the
 pickings are slim. But there's such a wealth of black stars,
 producers, and directors that the scarcity of movies - big-ticket or
 small, serious or light - focused on the lives of black people, is
 surreal. There's a gaping entertainment void. It's not just the lack
 of quantity. It's the lack of variety. Despite the usual death notices
 posted for hip-hop, black popular music is alive and well.

 At the moment, black movies come in two flavors: uplift dramas and
 Tyler Perry. The first is represented by all those feel-good movies -
 Akeelah and the Bee, Stomp the Yard, Pride, The Great Debaters
 - that, bless their hearts, wanted to empower us, but that nobody
 flocked to see. Message movies are a great notion but tricky as
 entertainment. The makers of these films have this noble but somewhat
 misguided idea that the average black moviegoer wants to feel like
 she's in school.

 Perry's megaplex successes suggest that the average black moviegoer
 wants to feel like she's in church. His movies have sermons. His
 movies have soap opera. And, increasingly, his movies have stars. In
 the past, I've said only somewhat jestingly that a Tyler Perry movie
 is where black actors go to get back in touch with their roots. (The
 prim, post-Nipplegate Janet Jackson who showed up in Why Did I Get
 Married? wasn't just making a movie, she was asking for forgiveness.)
 But now a Tyler Perry movie is where a black actor goes to act. Angela
 Bassett is the star of Meet the Browns. Daddy's Little Girls had
 Gabrielle Union and Idris Elba. And the movie that Perry, who
 essentially works without Hollywood's help, is currently filming has
 Alfre Woodard, Sanaa Lathan, and the loveable Taraji P. Henson, that
 pregnant, hook-belting hooker from Hustle  Flow.

 It doesn't do any good to discount the value of Tyler Perry, and he
 certainly can't be - should not be - ignored. Perry knows what an
 audience wants, and he delivers - with Woody Allen's regularity, too.
 These things tend to come in waves (remember the Wayans brothers'
 racial funhouses from a few years ago?). But Perry is more than a
 ripple. He is black movies right now. His style has inspired studio
 executives to look, wittingly or not, for movies with either Perry's
 clumsy farce (see last winter's The Perfect Holiday or First
 Sunday - on second thought: don't) or his ensemble comic-melodrama
 (This Christmas).

 That's a problem. There's no art in these movies. There's no style.
 And Perry's success, through no fault of his own, limits what chances
 the studios are willing to take on black movies. Rickety ghetto
 comedies, prefab movie biographies, and feel-good historical dramas
 tailor-made for NAACP Image Award contention are one thing. But a
 serious, thoughtful act of filmmaking or some real Hollywood glamour
 is rare.

 Last year, Denzel Washington found himself at two extremes. He
 directed and starred in The Great Debaters, a historical drama that
 used a feel-good formula to tell the somewhat-true story of a Texas
 debate team in the 1930s. It was meant to 

1211368276

2008-05-21 Thread oberonz
Fox wins TV season crown
Strike, DVRs cause record ratings drop
By RICK KISSELL
A dominant Fox is set to be crowned the winner of the 2007-08 television 
season, one that the broadcast biz -- and perhaps even Fox -- would just as 
soon forget. 
The writers strike, along with the rising popularity of DVRs and the increased 
availability of programming on multiple platforms, conspired to make this 
season the lowest-rated on record for the broadcasters. There was also a dearth 
of breakout hits, with no new show emerging as the biz's savior. 
Of course, the broadcasters have been losing audience share to cable for years 
-- but this season saw the most troubling year-to-year declines yet. 
In a season when overall television usage among young adults was up slightly, 
the top five English-language broadcast networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox and CW) 
will finish down 10% in adults 18-49 rating (14.1 vs. 15.6). And their overall 
audience average (41.5 million viewers) is off 7% from the 2006-07 campaign 
(44.8 million), according to Nielsen. 
By comparison, ad-supported cable saw a 9% increase in 18-49 rating (17.4 vs. 
15.9) and 7% in total viewers (51.6 million vs. 48.1 million). 
The strike made this year an anomaly, said Fox Entertainment chairman Peter 
Liguori. But we all should look at what happened to those viewership levels 
and be shocked into being more aggressive about our thinking. No one knows what 
will happen with summer viewing and into the fall. 
With just three days to be counted in the season (which ends tonight), Fox led 
all networks with a 4.2 rating/11 share in adults 18-49, followed by ABC and 
CBS (tied at 3.0/8), NBC (2.8/8), Spanish-language Univision (1.5/4) and CW 
(1.1/3). 
Fox, which benefited from airing the Super Bowl this season, is up 5% vs. last 
season -- it's the only network showing gains. CBS, which had aired the Super 
Bowl a year ago, is down the most (19%), while ABC and CW are off 14% and NBC 
10%. 
For the first time, Fox will also finish the season as the most-watched network 
overall, with its 11.1 million viewers beating out traditional leader CBS (10.5 
million). The Eye, which has won most weeks down the stretch, likely would have 
captured its sixth straight total-viewers crown if not for the writers strike. 
Working from a smaller base, MyNetwork made some strides in its second season, 
rising 33% in 18-49 (0.4 vs. 0.3) and 36% in total viewers (1.13 million vs. 
835,000). 
The biggest story of the season, of course, was the three-month writers strike, 
which sapped any momentum the nets were building in the fall. Auds were also 
reluctant to return to hit shows in the spring, with virtually every top hit 
posting ratings declines. 
The rise in DVR playback was another big story, with the residents of one in 
four homes now with the ability to watch programs on their own timetables. 
One result is that hits in crowded timeslots like Thursday at 9 -- where 
Grey's Anatomy, CSI and The Office all toil -- typically see their 
live-plus 7 rating (all DVR playback within a week) shoot up by about 20% vs. 
their averages reported in the next-day Nielsens. 
For Fox, the 2007-08 season reps its fourth consecutive victory in the 
advertiser-friendly demo of adults 18-49. The net has been remarkably 
consistent in recent years, with this year's 4.2 rating a tick above the 4.1 
rating it had maintained the previous three years. 
It has also seen its overall primetime audience grow now with each of the last 
four seasons. 
I feel proud of a group out there, from scheduling and planning to marketing 
and programming, that did a solid job keeping the network vibrant and robust 
amidst the strike, Liguori said. You strip the Super Bowl away and 'American 
Idol' away, and the network is still No. 1 by a good margin. That shows the 
strength of our network across seven nights a week. 
The performance and results editions of Fox's American Idol remained the 
top-rated programs in both adults 18-49 and total viewers, even though the show 
at long last began to show mortal-like signs of ratings erosion. 
Fox's House is running neck and neck with ABC's Desperate Housewives as the 
season's top-rated scripted program in 18-49. 
It's also worth noting that the net prevailed for the season even without its 
traditional second-half Monday anchor, 24 -- a casualty of the writers 
strike. 
Though Fox had its share of first-year bombs, it ended the season with the two 
top-rated new programs in lie-detector reality show Moment of Truth and 
sci-fi drama Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. 
ABC had a winning fall, thanks in part to some promising newcomers, but the 
writers strike and the arrival of Fox's American Idol sapped much of its 
momentum. 
Despite ratings declines, the net's core vets, Grey's Anatomy, Desperate 
Housewives, Lost and Dancing With the Stars, remain top-10 fixtures. ABC 
is returning all three of its frosh Wednesday hours in the fall (Pushing 
Daisies, Private 

Re: [scifinoir2] A black hole

2008-05-21 Thread Justin Mohareb
He did?  Is this a recent RetCon?

I know that they heavily foreshadowed him getting the War Machine suit
in the film.

JJ Mohareb

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 2:22 AM, Daryle Lockhart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jim Rhodes is a pretty important character in the Iron Man books.
 What's been twisted in he movie is that Rhodie actually helped build
 the suits, and gets one fo his own.

-- 
Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy.
http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com


Re: [scifinoir2] $175 burger: you want gold with that?

2008-05-21 Thread Martin
I...I...I couldn't resist...they were silver-plated...

Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aha...you 
fell for the fancy chopsticks meal...
 
 Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  $700
 
 I paid $950 for mine...
 
 Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No thanks...I'll stick with my $700 
Raman noodles
 
 ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Enough of this Obama talk - lets talk 
about something REALLY 
 important like...$175 hamburgers!)
 
 ~rave!
 
 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080520/od_nm/hamburger_dc
 
 $175 burger: you want gold with that? By Daniel Trotta
 
 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
 
 Its creators admit it is the ultimate in decadence: a $175 hamburger.
 
 The Wall Street Burger Shoppe just raised its price from $150 to 
 assure its designation as the costliest burger in the city as 
 determined by Pocket Change, an online newsletter about the most 
 expensive things in New York.
 
 Wall Street has good days and bad days. We wanted to have the 
 everyday burger (for $4) ... and then something special if you really 
 have a good day on Wall Street, said co-owner Heather Tierney.
 
 The burger, created by chef and co-owner Kevin O'Connell, seeks to 
 justify its price with a Kobe beef patty, lots of black truffles, 
 seared foie gras, aged Gruyere cheese, wild mushrooms and flecks of 
 gold leaf on a brioche bun.
 
 The eatery sells 20 or 25 per month in the fine dining room upstairs 
 versus hundreds of $4 burgers each day at the diner counter 
 downstairs, Tierney said.
 
 Pocket Change previously designated the double truffle burger at 
 Daniel Boulud's DB Bistro Moderne as the most expensive at $120, and 
 the Burger Shoppe set out to top that.
 
 Boulud's creation -- available only during black truffle season from 
 December to March -- rose to $150 this past season, so the Burger 
 Shoppe raised its price on Monday to $175.
 
 Our burger is not about the price, said Georgette Farkas, a Boulud 
 spokeswoman. If you are making something concerned only about the 
 price, you are off in the wrong direction.
 
 Without truffles, Boulud's burger costs $32. It has a ground sirloin 
 patty stuffed with red wine braised short ribs.
 
 O'Connell said the Burger Shoppe was finding the ultimate expression 
 of each one of the ingredients.
 
 The concept was like a mushroom-bacon-Swiss cheese burger, which is 
 my favorite sort of burger, he said.
 
 The burger comes with golden truffle mayonnaise, Belgian-style fries 
 and a mixed greens and tomato salad. O'Connell pairs the dish with 
 many fine wines, a lager or a toasted brown beer, or ginger ale.
 
 Copyright © 2008 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication 
 or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without 
 the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for 
 any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in 
 reliance thereon. 
 
 “I am me,” said the stranger, “and I work for the ones who pay my fee...and 
that's not you. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get 
organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A 
Country
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 “I am me,” said the stranger, “and I work for the ones who pay my fee...and 
that's not you. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie

 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 
 
   


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Re: [scifinoir2] Fox Wins Title in Worst TV Season Ever

2008-05-21 Thread Martin
I'm sure that the fine folks at Skiffy are working hard to reclaim the title.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fox wins TV season crown
 Strike, DVRs cause record ratings drop
 By RICK KISSELL
 A dominant Fox is set to be crowned the winner of the 2007-08 television 
season, one that the broadcast biz -- and perhaps even Fox -- would just as 
soon forget. 
 The writers strike, along with the rising popularity of DVRs and the increased 
availability of programming on multiple platforms, conspired to make this 
season the lowest-rated on record for the broadcasters. There was also a dearth 
of breakout hits, with no new show emerging as the biz's savior. 
 Of course, the broadcasters have been losing audience share to cable for years 
-- but this season saw the most troubling year-to-year declines yet. 
 In a season when overall television usage among young adults was up slightly, 
the top five English-language broadcast networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox and CW) 
will finish down 10% in adults 18-49 rating (14.1 vs. 15.6). And their overall 
audience average (41.5 million viewers) is off 7% from the 2006-07 campaign 
(44.8 million), according to Nielsen. 
 By comparison, ad-supported cable saw a 9% increase in 18-49 rating (17.4 vs. 
15.9) and 7% in total viewers (51.6 million vs. 48.1 million). 
 The strike made this year an anomaly, said Fox Entertainment chairman Peter 
Liguori. But we all should look at what happened to those viewership levels 
and be shocked into being more aggressive about our thinking. No one knows what 
will happen with summer viewing and into the fall. 
 With just three days to be counted in the season (which ends tonight), Fox led 
all networks with a 4.2 rating/11 share in adults 18-49, followed by ABC and 
CBS (tied at 3.0/8), NBC (2.8/8), Spanish-language Univision (1.5/4) and CW 
(1.1/3). 
 Fox, which benefited from airing the Super Bowl this season, is up 5% vs. last 
season -- it's the only network showing gains. CBS, which had aired the Super 
Bowl a year ago, is down the most (19%), while ABC and CW are off 14% and NBC 
10%. 
 For the first time, Fox will also finish the season as the most-watched 
network overall, with its 11.1 million viewers beating out traditional leader 
CBS (10.5 million). The Eye, which has won most weeks down the stretch, likely 
would have captured its sixth straight total-viewers crown if not for the 
writers strike. 
 Working from a smaller base, MyNetwork made some strides in its second season, 
rising 33% in 18-49 (0.4 vs. 0.3) and 36% in total viewers (1.13 million vs. 
835,000). 
 The biggest story of the season, of course, was the three-month writers 
strike, which sapped any momentum the nets were building in the fall. Auds were 
also reluctant to return to hit shows in the spring, with virtually every top 
hit posting ratings declines. 
 The rise in DVR playback was another big story, with the residents of one in 
four homes now with the ability to watch programs on their own timetables. 
 One result is that hits in crowded timeslots like Thursday at 9 -- where 
Grey's Anatomy, CSI and The Office all toil -- typically see their 
live-plus 7 rating (all DVR playback within a week) shoot up by about 20% vs. 
their averages reported in the next-day Nielsens. 
 For Fox, the 2007-08 season reps its fourth consecutive victory in the 
advertiser-friendly demo of adults 18-49. The net has been remarkably 
consistent in recent years, with this year's 4.2 rating a tick above the 4.1 
rating it had maintained the previous three years. 
 It has also seen its overall primetime audience grow now with each of the last 
four seasons. 
 I feel proud of a group out there, from scheduling and planning to marketing 
and programming, that did a solid job keeping the network vibrant and robust 
amidst the strike, Liguori said. You strip the Super Bowl away and 'American 
Idol' away, and the network is still No. 1 by a good margin. That shows the 
strength of our network across seven nights a week. 
 The performance and results editions of Fox's American Idol remained the 
top-rated programs in both adults 18-49 and total viewers, even though the show 
at long last began to show mortal-like signs of ratings erosion. 
 Fox's House is running neck and neck with ABC's Desperate Housewives as 
the season's top-rated scripted program in 18-49. 
 It's also worth noting that the net prevailed for the season even without its 
traditional second-half Monday anchor, 24 -- a casualty of the writers 
strike. 
 Though Fox had its share of first-year bombs, it ended the season with the two 
top-rated new programs in lie-detector reality show Moment of Truth and 
sci-fi drama Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. 
 ABC had a winning fall, thanks in part to some promising newcomers, but the 
writers strike and the arrival of Fox's American Idol sapped much of its 
momentum. 
 Despite ratings declines, the net's core vets, Grey's Anatomy, Desperate 

[scifinoir2] Goliath sized champ of WWE savors life as deity in India

2008-05-21 Thread ravenadal
www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-india-wrestler_21may21,0,3301291.story
chicagotribune.com

India's towering Khali savors life as a deity
Goliath-size champ of World Wrestling Entertainment returns home to
adoring crowds

By Rama Lakshmi

The Washington Post

1:53 AM CDT, May 21, 2008

MUMBAI, India — After two hours of swaying to thumping Bollywood
neo-folk music and listening to stock stage jokes, impatient fans
began chanting for the star of the evening to show up. We want Khali!
We want Khali!

And when the Goliath-size professional wrestler of that name appeared
in a blue cotton shirt, jeans and ponytail, thousands of hands thrust
cell phone cameras into the air to capture the image.

Khali, we love you, screamed men and women alike. The Khali bomb!
yelled a male voice. Little boys tried to climb over barricades to get
closer to the stage on a college campus.

In India, such public adulation and hysteria are usually reserved for
stars of cricket or the film industry. But Khali has earned his
frenzied fame by becoming the Indian icon of American televised
wrestling. He is the first man from India to rise high in the American
gladiatorial adventure of World Wrestling Entertainment Inc., winning
the world heavyweight championship last July.

The square-jawed wrestler weighs 420 pounds, is 7 feet 3 inches tall
and measures 63 inches around the chest. He also goes by the names the
Great Khali and Mahabali-Khali — Khali Who Has Great Strength. The
Mahabali title is often applied to the Hindu monkey-headed god Hanuman.

Last week, Khali, 35, returned to India for a vacation. Thousands of
fans were waiting with marigold garlands at the New Delhi airport when
he landed. Since then, it has been one fanatical near-stampede after
another. Khali has kept a back-to-back schedule, meeting reporters,
schoolchildren, slum dwellers, politicians and some of those Bollywood
stars and cricketers.

'Our own Rocky Balboa'
He is our own Rocky Balboa. From zero to hero, said Darshan Rewar,
22, an engineering graduate who arrived with his family three hours
before Khali's appearance at the Mumbai college campus.

We want to go backstage and touch him, just once, said his sister,
Dipti Rewar, a 24-year-old schoolteacher. I want to see the 63-inch
chest.

For two years India's Hindi news TV networks have fed hungry viewers
daily reports on Khali — what he eats, what he wears, whom he married,
whom he prays to. Indian reporters have traveled to Khali's home in
Atlanta and showed viewers images of every corner of his house.

Khali is both a religion and a god, noted the news tabloid Mail Today.

India's president, Pratibha Patil, described him as the pride of the
nation.

I play to bring honor to India's name abroad, and I feel very proud
when I am beating up white wrestlers, Khali said in Mumbai. India was
colonized by Britain, and to many people here, his victories
constitute payback of sorts, the underdog rising to beat the former
master.

Fans recite details of how the towering Khali, in his trademark black
track pants and flowing curls, squashed the dreaded Undertaker with a
kick to the head. He also has battled the likes of Rey Mysterio, Kane
and Dave Batista, using signature moves — the Khali bomb (a two-handed
choke-slam), vise grip and brain-chop.

The WWE Web site attributes mythic qualities to Khali: This enormous
monster has walked the jungles of India unafraid of pythons and
wrestled white Bengal tigers. Legend states that the Punjabi Warrior
has stared into the abyss and the Earth trembled at his gaze.

Born into a poor family
The reality is far less spectacular. Khali was born Dalip Singh Rana
in 1972, in a poor family of seven children in a Himalayan village,
Dhirana. He grew up largely unschooled. As a young man, he struggled
to make ends meet as a manual laborer, crushing stones in
road-building projects. Later, working as a security guard at a store,
he was spotted by a police officer who inducted him into the police force.

He won the Mr. India bodybuilding title in 1996 and 1997, after which
friends funded training for a wrestling career. In 2000, he made his
debut in the American ring under the name Giant Singh. When he joined
WWE, he took on his current ring name, from the Hindu goddess of power
and destruction, Kali.

On paper, he retains his job as a police officer and is on sick
leave, even as he goes about brain-chopping opponents in the United
States.

Khali appeared in the 2005 Hollywood movie The Longest Yard and will
be in Get Smart, to be released next month. Speculation is rife that
he will soon make his debut in Bollywood movies.

Everywhere Khali went, people asked what he eats. He replied that he
doesn't smoke or drink, eats four meals a day and drinks lots of milk.

They also ask their hero if the fights on WWE are real. I am a little
tired of this question, Khali told reporters. We get injured quite
often. Is the injury fake? Is the surgery fake? There is no other
sport where 

[scifinoir2] Re: OT:Top reasons Clinton should not get on dream ticket

2008-05-21 Thread ravenadal
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So once again. If you vote for Obama you are intelligent. If yoy
vote for Clinton or the Republcians you are stupid.
 
All I know is that likely voters in Kentucky, who had already said
their opinion of Barack Obama had been negatively influenced by his
twenty years of attending a Christian church helmed by the Reverend
Jeremiah Wright, STILL thought Obama was a MUSLIM!

Nuff said.

~rave!





RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT:Top reasons Clinton should not get on dream ticket

2008-05-21 Thread KeithBJohnson
Good points. And didn't I hear that, during Saddam's maltreatment of the 
Khurds, the US ambassador at that time told him we wouldn't interfer into his 
internal affairs? I seem to remember hearing it was a female ambassador who 
told him what he did inside his own borders wasn't any of our concern, and I 
thought I heard the conversation had been taped?

-- Original message -- 
From: James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
True.

As I've been an anti-war activist with regard to Iraq since before the war
started, I have observed the complete lack of information and knowledge of
foreign policy in the hands of most voters.

Specifically, most of the people I've spoken with who favor Big Government
Wars of Intervention (like Iraq), have no idea that:

U.S. involvement in the internal affairs of Iraq and our government's
relationship with Huseein began in 1958, NOT 1990 when the CIA, DIA and
British Intelligence all conspired to train him (and several others) to
assassinate General Abdul Qassim.

Over the next two decades, the U.S. continued to use its inside man as he
grew in stature to influence affairs in Iraq until the invasion of Kuwait in
1990. 

Contrary to the bullshit I was fed by the government when I served in the
Gulf War, the Bush Administration did not disapprove of Iraq's invasion of
Kuwait UNTIL Hussein announced his intention of nationalizing the oilfields.

The U.S. also helped fund and stock the chemical and biological weapons
programs Iraq used in its barbaric war with Iran.

In addition, both Cheney and Rumsfeld had long-term relationships (political
and economic) with Hussein when he was at his worst (mass torture, use of
chemical and biological weapons, etc.).

Those are the Cliff's Notes version. There is more in an essay I wrote in
2005:

Seeking Out Monsters: Ignoring the Advice of John Quincy Adams

http://jameslandrith.com/content/view/198/44/

By the way, the Shah of Iran was installed by a Republican Administration
when Premier Mohammed Mossadeq (democratically elected) was overthrown by a
CIA sponsored coup. The Shah led a very repressive regime (if you were a
critic - even worse), which helped fuel the fires behind the Ayatollah
Ruhollah Khomeni's successful coup. All of this was put into motion by
Eisenhower's meddling in the internal affairs of Iran. Jimmy Carter had
exactly jack shit to do with that..

--

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:59 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT:Top reasons Clinton should not get on dream
ticket

No, but the republicans and more recently, Clinton have sought out with a
vengeance, low information voters. I believe Clinton did it out of
necessity when she started losing and recognized that she had an edge with
that group. So she work to exploit that advantage.. 

-Original Message-
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ]
On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:Gymfig%40aol.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 6:32 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT:Top reasons Clinton should not get on dream
ticket

In a message dated 5/20/2008 8:20:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com writes:

Gymfig, the Republicans don't want intelligent people. Just ones smart
enough 
to press the touch-screen option next to their candidates' names. They're 
afraid of all of us pointy-headed liberals...

So once again. If you vote for Obama you are intelligent. If yoy vote for 
Clinton or the Republcians you are stupid. 

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RE: [scifinoir2] OT:Top reasons Clinton should not get on dream ticket

2008-05-21 Thread KeithBJohnson
You make a good, compelling reason for Edwards as Attorney General and maybe 
even on the High Court someday. I have to readjust my thinking, wanting him as 
a more convential politician or leader, I guess.  But you're really making the 
point--perhaps *more* important--that it's a lot of the more behind-the-scenes, 
sometimes less flashy jobs, that are often at least as important as high 
profile ones like Prez, guvnor, etc.
As for Richardson, speaking of flashy, I hear a lot of people say he's not 
scintillating enough to be Sec of State or anything. I thnk a lot of folks feel 
he's too weak or boring for the job.  
Kucinich is so focused on the rights of people, dealing with poverty, 
education, fair housing and hiring, etc., that I sometimes wonder if he'd be a 
good secreatary for a cabinet post that handles that.

-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I see Biden or Richardson as secretary of state. As much as many of us like 
Kucinich, he is not a player and in my opinion, therefore he will not be a part 
of the equation

I agree about Edwards, but to truly clean up the department of Justice and 
restore the constitution, it will require a high profile AG. Additionally, it 
set him up for the supreme court. However, your point is well taken. Where do 
you see him Health and Human Services?

-Original Message-
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 8:48 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT:Top reasons Clinton should not get on dream ticket

i almost feel Edwards would be wasted as Attorney General. Not that he wouldn't 
do good--he would. And Lord knows, given the abuses from that office the last 
seven years, we need a good person in that role. But i guess I like Edwards' 
presence, his affability, his ease with people, I'd rather see him in a role 
where he'd be in front of the public eye and shaping policy more often, instead 
of enforcing the law.

Do you see a role for Joe Biden? Maybe he could be Secretary of State? What 
about Kucinich? Education? Housing and Urban Development?

-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Bosco I know you asked Keith who his VP pick was, but here is my list. I love 
this puzzle

Webb- Former Secretary of the Navy; former republican, could help deliver VA, 
has a good relationship with Obama - they co-sponsored a Vet bill together, 
produced Vet documentaries for PBS, would appeal to Reagan democrats and white 
men to help turn some southern states purple; Con: I hear during his Reagan 
years he said some things about affirmative action than anger blacks; some say 
he is too direct and gets foot in the mouth disease

Bloomberg - Independents and Moderate republicans like him. Democrats like him. 
He's been a dem and a republican, he's a good manager. Would change the dem/ 
Republican dynamic. Cons: No international Experience. From a blue state

The four Hilary consolation picks would be: Wesley Clark, Evan Baye, Strickland 
and Rendell. I think Baye might be the strongest. He is a former governor, has 
international experience, would appeal to Reagan democrats and white men to 
help turn some southern states purple - including deliver Indiana. 

The appease the women VP pick would be: Sibelius, McCaskil, or the governor of 
AZ. I do not think the Hillary supporters who are angry will accept a 
substitute angry and I wonder about two change candidates on the ticket. Also I 
do not think any of them have international experience I think Sibelius would 
be best. I think the AZ governor has young children and many Americans have 
issues with the idea of a woman with young children as president. They think 
she would neglect the kids. However I like McCaskil, but that would be two new 
Senators on the ticket.

I like Edwards, but he did not deliver NC in 2004 and he does not want it. He 
wants Attorney General and I think he would be great for it

I like Richardson, but he is clumsy of the campaign trail for himself and two 
change brown candidates at one time might be too much for this racist country 
to handle. I say give him Secretary of state

-Original Message-
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bosco 
Bosco
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 4:57 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT:Top reasons Clinton should not get on dream ticket

hey Keith

Who would you like to see on the ticket? I am undecided. There are things I 
absolutely love about HRC and things that make me bum out as much as any 
poltician has ever made me bum out. I'm curious to know who the other folks 
under consideration are in the Obama camp.

B

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 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT:Top reasons Clinton should not get 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT:Top reasons Clinton should not get on dream ticket

2008-05-21 Thread Justin Mohareb
That was before the first Gufl War.  Abassador Gillispie told Hussein:
We have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border
disagreement with Kuwait. 

JJ Mohareb

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:21 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good points. And didn't I hear that, during Saddam's maltreatment of the
 Khurds, the US ambassador at that time told him we wouldn't interfer into
 his internal affairs? I seem to remember hearing it was a female ambassador
 who told him what he did inside his own borders wasn't any of our concern,
 and I thought I heard the conversation had been taped?



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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT:Top reasons Clinton should not get on dream ticket

2008-05-21 Thread Bosco Bosco
Hey Tracey

Im clear that HRC is an old school beltway powerbroker and has done things 
which are less than savory. I'm certainly not down with everything she's done. 
I'm sure that looking over the political career of any of the folks that have 
made careers in DC would turn up some truly ugly and at times disturbing 
business. I don't think you can get there without some. However, I don't think 
her examples are worse than other peoples. All I'm really saying is that warts 
and all, her presence in the White House wouldn't appall me but I prefer 
Senator Obama. In the end, the Clinton vs. Obama debate is mostly moot, unless 
the Democratic power brokers defy the will of the people and give the 
nomination to Clinton at the convention. 

The one thing that worries me about Sen. Obama is his position on the war. 
While I am all for ending it and as soon as possible, I'm also for the moral 
responsibility of rebuilding a country we have left destroyed. I don't think 
it's right to simply say we'll just leave. I'd like to see his plan for fixing 
the mess. He may have one but I haven't seen it anywhere. I'm hopeful that 
Senator Obama will do the right thing in Iraq and clean up the mess the war 
criminals have created.

Bosco
--- On Tue, 5/20/08, tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT:Top reasons Clinton should not get on dream ticket
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2008, 8:17 PM


I'm glad I misunderstood and that you voted for who you wanted - no

matter who that is.  I did not perceive you as someone who could be

pressured by others in your political decision making.  



  


[scifinoir2] FW: Torturing Iron Man: The Strange Reversals of a Pentagon Blockbuster

2008-05-21 Thread Tracey de Morsella
 

 

From: Lord Sauron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:36 AM 


Torturing
http://www.truthout.org/article/torturing-iron-man-the-strange-reversals-a-
pentagon-blockbuster  Iron Man: The Strange Reversals of a Pentagon
Blockbuster


Tuesday 20 May 2008

 http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174934 

by: Nick Turse, TomDispatch.com

[Tracey de Morsella] 


The movie Iron Man has been critiqued by antiwar critics for the way it
turned history on its head, using reverse iconic images that replace all
guilt for death and destruction in Vietnam onto America's enemies. (Photo:
Filefront.com) 

Liberal Hollywood is a favorite whipping-boy of right-wingers who
suppose the town and its signature industry are ever-at-work undermining the
U.S. military. In reality, the military has been deeply involved
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174908  with the film industry since the
Silent Era. Today, however, the ad hoc arrangements of the past have been
replaced by a full-scale one-stop shop, occupying a floor of a Los Angeles
office building. There, the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard, and
the Department of Defense itself have established entertainment liaison
offices to help ensure that Hollywood makes movies the military way. 

What they have to trade, especially when it comes to blockbuster films,
is access to high-tech, tax-payer funded, otherwise unavailable gear. What
they get in return is usually the right to alter or shape scripts
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A54632-2002Jun14?language=printer
to suit their needs. If you want to see the fruits of this relationship in
action, all you need to do is head down to your local multiplex. Chances are
that Iron Man - the latest military-entertainment masterpiece - is playing
on a couple of screens.

For the past three weeks, Iron Man -a film produced by its comic-book
parent Marvel and distributed by Paramount Pictures - has cleaned up at the
box office, taking in a staggering $222.5 million in the U.S. and $428.5
million worldwide. The movie, which opened with the tenth biggest weekend
box office performance of all time and the second biggest for a non-sequel,
has the added distinction of being
http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2008/05/05/marvels-hollywood-summer/
the best-reviewed movie of 2008 so far. For instance, in the New
http://movies.nytimes.com/2008/05/02/movies/02iron.html  York Times, movie
reviewer A.O. Scott called Iron Man an unusually good superhero picture,
while Roger Ebert wrote
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080502/REVIEWS/
285399481 : The world needs another comic book movie like it needs another
Bush administration [but] if we must have on more 'Iron Man' is a swell one
to have. There has even been nascent Oscar buzz
http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/05/iron-man-oscar.html .

Robert Downey Jr. has been nearly universally praised for a winning
performance as playboy-billionaire-merchant-of-death-genius-inventor Tony
Stark, head of Stark Industries, a fictional version of Lockheed or Boeing.
In the film, Stark travels to Afghanistan to showcase a new weapon of
massive destruction to American military commanders occupying that country.
On a Humvee journey through the Afghan backlands, his military convoy is
caught up in a deadly ambush by al-Qaeda stand-ins, who capture him and
promptly subject him to what Vice President Dick Cheney once dubbed
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/27/AR200610270
0560.html  a dunk in the water, but used to be known as the Water
Torture. The objct is to force him to build his Jericho weapons system, one
of his masterpieces of death, in their Tora Bora-like mountain cave
complex. 

As practically everyone in the world already knows, Stark instead builds
a prototype metal super-suit and busts out of his cave of confinement,
slaughtering his terrorist captors as he goes. Back in the U.S., a
born-again Stark announces that his company needs to get out of the weapons
game, claiming he has more to offer the world than making things blow up.
Yet, what he proceeds to build is, of course, a souped-up model of the suit
he designed in the Afghan cave. Back inside it, as Iron Man, he then uses it
to blow up bad guys in Afghanistan, taking on the role of a kind of
(super-)human-rights vigilante. He even tangles with U.S. forces in the
skies over that occupied land, but when the Air Force's sleek, ultra
high-tech, F-22A http://cg.follow-w.net/images/070912_ironman.jpg  Raptors
try to shoot him down, he refrains from using his awesome powers of
invention to blow them away. This isn't the only free pass doled out to the
U.S. military in the film.

Just as America's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan continue to bring various
Vietnam analogies to mind, Iron Man has its own Vietnam pedigree. Before
Tony Stark landed in Afghanistan in 2008, he first lumbered
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/brainiac/ironman3.jpg  

[scifinoir2] New Captain America Heroclix

2008-05-21 Thread Justin Mohareb
http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/marvel/figuregallery.asp?unitid=14100

WizKids is doing a figure of the Isaiah Bradley Captain America in the
Secret Invasion set.

JJ Mohareb

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[scifinoir2] Re: FW: Torturing Iron Man: The Strange Reversals of a Pentagon Blockbuster

2008-05-21 Thread ravenadal
Most famously, it appropriated a then-unforgettable Pulitzer
prize-winning photo
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f9/Nguyen.jpg of Lt. 
Colonel Nguyen Ngoc Loan, South Vietnam's national police chief, 
executing an unarmed, bound prisoner during the Tet Offensive with a 
point blank pistol shot to the head. In the film, however, it was the 
evil enemy which made http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-
images/Film/Pix/pictures/2000/01/31/deerhunter.gif American prisoners 
do the same to themselves as they were forced to play Russian Roulette 
for the amusement of their sadistic Vietnamese captors (something that 
had no basis in reality).

I am a fan of critical analysis, and this article is certainly thought 
provoking, but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar (attribution: 
Sigmund Freud).  Contrary to what the above suggests, Michael Cimino, 
the director of The Deerhunter, had a Russian Roulette script he was 
peddling when he was hired to direct Deerhunter.  He grafted his 
roulette script sequence onto the Deerhunter narrative.  While the 
Nguyen Ngoc Loan connection is provocative, I do not believe it was the 
filmmakers intent to invoke it. 

~rave!




Re: [scifinoir2] New Captain America Heroclix

2008-05-21 Thread Martin
Never liked the concept of the game, but I'll buy that, solely to own it.

Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/marvel/figuregallery.asp?unitid=14100

WizKids is doing a figure of the Isaiah Bradley Captain America in the
Secret Invasion set.

JJ Mohareb

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[scifinoir2] More May Return for Hobbit

2008-05-21 Thread Tracey de Morsella

More May Return for Hobbit


Rings stars in talks to rejoin Tolkien universe.


by Brian Linder http://movies.ign.com/email.html  

http://movies.ign.com/articles/875/875645p1.html

May 21, 2008 - Guillermo del Toro, director of both Hellboy films, is about
to move on to another genre franchise, New Line's two-movie adaptation of
J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit. Actors Ian McKellen, who played Gandalf in
Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings, and Andy Serkis (Gollum), have already
been in contact with the production about reprising their roles. And now
there's word of another Rings star coming into the mix.

According to Variety, Viggo Mortensen has been approached about returning to
Middle-earth as Aragorn. Tolkien fans will know that Aragorn isn't
introduced until Fellowship of the Ring, but the second film in the Hobbit
series will be a bridge to the Rings trilogy based on a variety of Tolkien
source material.

The inclusion of Aragorn runs counter to what we previously heard from
actress Liv Tyler who  http://movies.ign.com/articles/875/875397p1.html
told us recently, As far as I know, Arwen and Aragorn are not in The
Hobbit, or definitely aren't in it. But I don't know yet.

Pre-production is about to begin on the project which Fran Walsh and
Philippa Boyens will write with Peter Jackson and del Toro overseeing.

We will all be involved in the script in some fashion but the exact
definition is about a week away,  del Toro told Variety. I am all for
keeping the actors who originated the parts, as much as availability and
their willingness will allow.

 



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[scifinoir2] Bale to Terminate Batman Times Three

2008-05-21 Thread Tracey de Morsella

Bale to Terminate Times Three


Dark Knight star signed for Terminator trilogy.


http://movies.ign.com/articles/875/875447p1.html


by Brian Linder http://movies.ign.com/email.html  

starring in the upcoming Terminator franchise reboot. The Dark Knight star
is signed for an entire trilogy of flicks in which he'll play resistance
leader John Conner.

The producers of Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins, which has already
begun filming, revealed the scoop to BBC News. 

Producer Victor Kubicek said, Christian was our first choice and he's a big
fan of The Terminator, so we're very lucky. But with Batman he's already
done the whole franchise thing, so we weren't sure he'd respond.

Luckily, said The Halcyon Company's Derek Anderson, he read the script
and he loved it, so he's signed on for all three. 

There's no word on whether the other Terminator Salvation stars -- Sam
Worthington, Anton Yelchin, Common, Moon Bloodgood -- will be reprising
their roles in subsequent flicks.

The next Terminator installment, directed by McG, will make its bow
worldwide on May 22, 2009.

 



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1211410501

2008-05-21 Thread Tracey de Morsella

Highlander Reborn


Iron Man writers to pen remake.


by Jim Vejvoda http://movies.ign.com/email.html 

http://movies.ign.com/articles/875/875430p1.html

May 20, 2008 - Connor MacLeod of the clan MacLeod will return ... again.
Summit Entertainment has acquired the remake rights to Highlander and set
the Iron Man screenwriting team of Art Marcum and Matt Holloway to script
the redo.

The 1986 original, starring Christopher Lambert, Sean Connery and Clancy
Brown, beget film sequels, TV series, comic books and videogames.

According to The Hollywood Reporter, Peter Davis, a producer on the
original, will also produce the Highlander remake.

So who could play the new Connor MacLeod? Might Hollywood actually cast a
Scotsman this time? Like say, Gerard Butler, James McAvoy, or Ewan McGregor?
Sound off below!

 

Yahoo!
http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/ign/http%253A%252F%252Fmovies.ign.com%252Fart
icles%252F875%252F875430p1.html  Buzz

 



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Re: [scifinoir2] Highlander Reborn

2008-05-21 Thread Martin
(to the tune of the TV series)

Heere we are...

Bound to be bored!

'Cause this flick is gonna suck so baad...

HEY!

Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Highlander Reborn
 
 Iron Man writers to pen remake.
 
 by Jim Vejvoda http://movies.ign.com/email.html 
 
 http://movies.ign.com/articles/875/875430p1.html
 
 May 20, 2008 - Connor MacLeod of the clan MacLeod will return ... again.
 Summit Entertainment has acquired the remake rights to Highlander and set
 the Iron Man screenwriting team of Art Marcum and Matt Holloway to script
 the redo.
 
 The 1986 original, starring Christopher Lambert, Sean Connery and Clancy
 Brown, beget film sequels, TV series, comic books and videogames.
 
 According to The Hollywood Reporter, Peter Davis, a producer on the
 original, will also produce the Highlander remake.
 
 So who could play the new Connor MacLeod? Might Hollywood actually cast a
 Scotsman this time? Like say, Gerard Butler, James McAvoy, or Ewan McGregor?
 Sound off below!
 
 Yahoo!
 http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/ign/http%253A%252F%252Fmovies.ign.com%252Fart
 icles%252F875%252F875430p1.html  Buzz
 
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There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get 
organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A 
Country
   

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Re: [scifinoir2] Oopps - Subject Typo-- RE: Bale to Terminate Batman Times Three

2008-05-21 Thread Martin
Please see my last...

Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 
 From: Tracey de Morsella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:52 PM
 To: 'scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com'
 Subject: Bale to Terminate Batman Times Three
 
 Bale to Terminate Times Three
 
 Dark Knight star signed for Terminator trilogy.
 
 http://movies.ign.com/articles/875/875447p1.html
 
 by Brian Linder http://movies.ign.com/email.html  
 
 starring in the upcoming Terminator franchise reboot. The Dark Knight star
 is signed for an entire trilogy of flicks in which he'll play resistance
 leader John Conner.
 
 The producers of Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins, which has already
 begun filming, revealed the scoop to BBC News. 
 
 Producer Victor Kubicek said, Christian was our first choice and he's a big
 fan of The Terminator, so we're very lucky. But with Batman he's already
 done the whole franchise thing, so we weren't sure he'd respond.
 
 Luckily, said The Halcyon Company's Derek Anderson, he read the script
 and he loved it, so he's signed on for all three. 
 
 There's no word on whether the other Terminator Salvation stars -- Sam
 Worthington, Anton Yelchin, Common, Moon Bloodgood -- will be reprising
 their roles in subsequent flicks.
 
 The next Terminator installment, directed by McG, will make its bow
 worldwide on May 22, 2009.
 
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There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get 
organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Highlander Reborn

2008-05-21 Thread Bosco Bosco
File this in the ever growing crap pile of bad Hollywood ideas. Not the worst 
idea ever but close enough to smell that bad.

B

--- On Wed, 5/21/08, Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [scifinoir2] Highlander Reborn
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 21, 2008, 5:54 PM













Highlander Reborn



Iron Man writers to pen remake.



by Jim Vejvoda http://movies. ign.com/email. html 



http://movies. ign.com/articles /875/875430p1. html



May 20, 2008 - Connor MacLeod of the clan MacLeod will return ... again.

Summit Entertainment has acquired the remake rights to Highlander and set

the Iron Man screenwriting team of Art Marcum and Matt Holloway to script

the redo.



The 1986 original, starring Christopher Lambert, Sean Connery and Clancy

Brown, beget film sequels, TV series, comic books and videogames.



According to The Hollywood Reporter, Peter Davis, a producer on the

original, will also produce the Highlander remake.



So who could play the new Connor MacLeod? Might Hollywood actually cast a

Scotsman this time? Like say, Gerard Butler, James McAvoy, or Ewan McGregor?

Sound off below!



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RE: [scifinoir2] Highlander Reborn

2008-05-21 Thread Tracey de Morsella
I named my West Highland Terrier Duncan after the Highlander years ago, so
that should tell you what a big fan of the show I was, but the idea of
another horrible redo, just makes me cringe

-Original Message-
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bosco Bosco
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:48 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Highlander Reborn

File this in the ever growing crap pile of bad Hollywood ideas. Not the
worst idea ever but close enough to smell that bad.

B

--- On Wed, 5/21/08, Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
From: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [scifinoir2] Highlander Reborn
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 21, 2008, 5:54 PM













Highlander Reborn



Iron Man writers to pen remake.



by Jim Vejvoda http://movies. ign.com/email. html 



http://movies. ign.com/articles /875/875430p1. html



May 20, 2008 - Connor MacLeod of the clan MacLeod will return ... again.

Summit Entertainment has acquired the remake rights to Highlander and set

the Iron Man screenwriting team of Art Marcum and Matt Holloway to script

the redo.



The 1986 original, starring Christopher Lambert, Sean Connery and Clancy

Brown, beget film sequels, TV series, comic books and videogames.



According to The Hollywood Reporter, Peter Davis, a producer on the

original, will also produce the Highlander remake.



So who could play the new Connor MacLeod? Might Hollywood actually cast a

Scotsman this time? Like say, Gerard Butler, James McAvoy, or Ewan McGregor?

Sound off below!



Yahoo!

http://buzz. yahoo.com/ article/ign/ http%253A% 252F%252Fmovies.
ign.com%252Fart

icles%252F875% 252F875430p1. html  Buzz



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