[scifinoir2] Legend director, Will Smith, reuniting for fantasy?

2009-07-10 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Last time director Francis Lawrence teamed up with star Will Smith, it went
pretty well: I Am Legend was a big hit and got generally good-to-middling
reviews.

Well, now comes news that Lawrence and Smith may reunite for a fantastical
drama titled The City That Sailed at 20th Century Fox, according to The
Hollywood Reporter. Here's how the trade paper reported it:

The director is developing the project, which is being produced by Smith's
Overbrook banner, with an eye to direct. 

Written by Andrew Niccol, the story follows a New York City street magician
whose daughter, because of family circumstances, lives in England. In
exploring a lighthouse one day, the girl discovers a room with magic candles
and wishes to be reunited with her father, causing the island of Manhattan
to break away and drift across the Pond.

Can we again expect to see Smith's spunky real-life daughter, Willow-who
played his on-screen kid in Legend-in City? That would make the family
reunion complete, wouldn't it?

http://scifiwire.com/2009/07/legend-director-will-smit.php



[scifinoir2] Why the clock is running out for a Superman sequel

2009-07-10 Thread Tracey de Morsella
The most interesting points in a court ruling on Wednesday over the rights
to Superman are, 1, that the rights revert back to the heirs of creators
Jerome Siegel and Joe Shuster in 2013 and, 2, that Warner Brothers has no
script and no development plans for a sequel to Bryan Singer's 2006 Superman
Returns.

Indeed, the studio wouldn't be able to release a sequel until 2012 at the
earliest, meaning that the clock is running out for Warner.

The details were contained in a ruling that otherwise favored Warner and its
corporate sibling DC Comics in a suit filed by the heirs of Superman
co-creator Jerome Siegel, Variety reported. Here's some of what the trade
paper reported:

In a decision announced Wednesday, U.S. Judge District Court Judge Stephen
G. Larson found that the license fees the studio paid to corporate sibling
DC Comics didn't represent sweetheart deals as they weren't below fair
market value. That means the heirs will be able seek profits only from DC
Comics-which earned $13.6 million from Warner Brothers for the 2006 release
of Superman Returns-rather than from Warner Brothers as well. ... 

The judge also set a Dec. 1 trial date for determining the allocation of
profits to the heirs, who won a ruling last year from Larson that awarded
them half the copyright for the Superman material. ...

The judge, who conducted a 10-day bench trial, also noted that Warner
Brothers chairman Alan Horn had testified that he hopes to make another
Superman movie but added that the property wasn't under development at the
studio, that no script had been written and that the earliest another
Superman pic could be released would be in 2012. ...

Attorney Marc Toberoff, who represents heirs Joanne Siegel and Laura Siegel
Larson, told Daily Variety that the judge had erred in not considering
comparable licensing deals for best-selling novels penned by Tom Clancy and
Michael Crichton and popular musicals such as My Fair Lady. ...

Toberoff also asserted in a written statement that the Siegel heirs and the
heirs of co-creator Joe Shuster will own the entire Superman copyright in
2013.

 



[scifinoir2] Fwd: Variety.com - Meteor

2009-07-10 Thread Charles


Posted: Thurs., Jul. 9, 2009, 12:59pm PT
Meteor

(Two-part movie; NBC, Sun. July 12-19, 9 p.m.) Filmed in Los Angeles  
by Alpine Medien Prods. in association with Larry Levinson Prods.  
and Grand Army Entertainment and presented by RHI Entertainment.  
Executive producers, Robert Halmi Jr., Larry Levinson; co-executive  
producers, Randy Pope, Michael Moran; producers, Juan Mas, Tony  
Roman; director, Ernie Barbarash; writer, Alexander Greenfield;


Jack Crowe - Billy Campbell
Imogene O'Neil - Marla Sokoloff
Dr. Chetwyn - Jason Alexander
Calvin Stark - Michael Rooker
Sheriff Crowe - Stacy Keach
Gen. Brasser - Ernie Hudson
Dr. Lehman - Christopher Lloyd
Jenny Crowe - Mimi Michaels

By BRIAN LOWRY
Although I seldom go this far out on a limb, Meteor is so bad, so  
unbelievably campy, it almost demands to be seen. Coming a few weeks  
after ABC's Impact, this RHI Entertainment two-parter manages to  
make that end-of-the-world epic look like I, Claudius,  
incorporating a maniac cop subplot and perplexing levels of  
gratuitous violence. Various recognizable actors dot the cast, but  
several of them have the good sense to die well before the end (or  
not) comes, leaving poor Marla Sokoloff as mankind's last best hope.
Despite the shared title, Meteor isn't directly related to the  
1979 disaster movie that starred Sean Connery, which contained a  
then-appropriate Cold War hook, as the U.S. and Soviets had to team  
up to try and prevent a world-annihilating threat.


Instead of geopolitics, director Ernie Barbarash and writer  
Alexander Greenfield settle for a murderous cop (Michael Rooker)  
swearing vengeance against the family of his partner, Jack (Billy  
Campbell), leading him on a chase across California while laws of  
civility break down as huge meteor shards reshape the landscape.


That's because a mountain-sized meteor named Kassandra is hurtling  
toward Earth, and only a crazy old scientist (Christopher Lloyd) and  
his young colleague Imogene (Sokoloff) know how to stop it.  
Unfortunately, they're in Mexico, and when something bad happens to  
the elder lab rat, Imogene has to navigate her way across the border  
hoping to convey vital information to Dr. Chetwyn (Jason Alexander),  
the harried scientist who fired her boss but is now working with the  
military to save humanity.


Because the meteor wreaks havoc on communications, it forces Imogene  
to run an unintentionally hilarious gantlet of escaped fugitives,  
car crashes, gun-toting vigilantes and border-patrol agents.  
Meanwhile, there are multiple side plots that mostly amount to  
killing time before Kassandra reaches the planet, including survival  
efforts in a meteor-struck hospital and the efforts of a local  
sheriff (Stacy Keach) -- who happens to be Jack's dad -- struggling  
to maintain order in his small town.


The giggles would come fast and furious were it not for the  
appalling quantity of violence, which seems less about the fraying  
of social norms in the face of a crisis than a wholly unnecessary  
movie within the movie. Indeed, Rooker's character is so bent on  
destruction that he essentially ignores the fire raining down from  
the sky.


There's much to be said for the major networks spicing their lineups  
with something more than just reality shows during the summer, but  
if Meteor represents the best they have to offer, Armageddon, come  
on down!


camera, Maximo Munzi; production designer, Scott H. Campbell;  
editors, Tricia Gorman, Mike Witting; music, Jonathan Snipes;  
casting, Penny Perry, Amy Reece. 120 MIN.



Read the full article at:
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[RE][scifinoir2] Fwd: Variety.com - Meteor

2009-07-10 Thread Martin Baxter
MST3K-ready, you say? 

I'm there.





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 Posted: Thurs., Jul. 9, 2009, 12:59pm PT
 Meteor

 (Two-part movie; NBC, Sun. July 12-19, 9 p.m.) Filmed in Los Angeles 
 by Alpine Medien Prods. in association with Larry Levinson Prods. 
 and Grand Army Entertainment and presented by RHI Entertainment. 
 Executive producers, Robert Halmi Jr., Larry Levinson; co-executive 
 producers, Randy Pope, Michael Moran; producers, Juan Mas, Tony 
 Roman; director, Ernie Barbarash; writer, Alexander Greenfield;

 Jack Crowe - Billy Campbell
 Imogene O'Neil - Marla Sokoloff
 Dr. Chetwyn - Jason Alexander
 Calvin Stark - Michael Rooker
 Sheriff Crowe - Stacy Keach
 Gen. Brasser - Ernie Hudson
 Dr. Lehman - Christopher Lloyd
 Jenny Crowe - Mimi Michaels

 By BRIAN LOWRY
 Although I seldom go this far out on a limb, Meteor is so bad, so 
 unbelievably campy, it almost demands to be seen. Coming a few weeks 
 after ABC's Impact, this RHI Entertainment two-parter manages to 
 make that end-of-the-world epic look like I, Claudius, 
 incorporating a maniac cop subplot and perplexing levels of 
 gratuitous violence. Various recognizable actors dot the cast, but 
 several of them have the good sense to die well before the end (or 
 not) comes, leaving poor Marla Sokoloff as mankind's last best hope.
 Despite the shared title, Meteor isn't directly related to the 
 1979 disaster movie that starred Sean Connery, which contained a 
 then-appropriate Cold War hook, as the U.S. and Soviets had to team 
 up to try and prevent a world-annihilating threat.

 Instead of geopolitics, director Ernie Barbarash and writer 
 Alexander Greenfield settle for a murderous cop (Michael Rooker) 
 swearing vengeance against the family of his partner, Jack (Billy 
 Campbell), leading him on a chase across California while laws of 
 civility break down as huge meteor shards reshape the landscape.

 That's because a mountain-sized meteor named Kassandra is hurtling 
 toward Earth, and only a crazy old scientist (Christopher Lloyd) and 
 his young colleague Imogene (Sokoloff) know how to stop it. 
 Unfortunately, they're in Mexico, and when something bad happens to 
 the elder lab rat, Imogene has to navigate her way across the border 
 hoping to convey vital information to Dr. Chetwyn (Jason Alexander), 
 the harried scientist who fired her boss but is now working with the 
 military to save humanity.

 Because the meteor wreaks havoc on communications, it forces Imogene 
 to run an unintentionally hilarious gantlet of escaped fugitives, 
 car crashes, gun-toting vigilantes and border-patrol agents. 
 Meanwhile, there are multiple side plots that mostly amount to 
 killing time before Kassandra reaches the planet, including survival 
 efforts in a meteor-struck hospital and the efforts of a local 
 sheriff (Stacy Keach) -- who happens to be Jack's dad -- struggling 
 to maintain order in his small town.

 The giggles would come fast and furious were it not for the 
 appalling quantity of violence, which seems less about the fraying 
 of social norms in the face of a crisis than a wholly unnecessary 
 movie within the movie. Indeed, Rooker's character is so bent on 
 destruction that he essentially ignores the fire raining down from 
 the sky.

 There's much to be said for the major networks spicing their lineups 
 with something more than just reality shows during the summer, but 
 if Meteor represents the best they have to offer, Armageddon, come 
 on down!

 camera, Maximo Munzi; production designer, Scott H. Campbell; 
 editors, Tricia Gorman, Mike Witting; music, Jonathan Snipes; 
 casting, Penny Perry, Amy Reece. 120 MIN.


 Read the full article at:
 http://www.variety.com/story.asp?l=storyamp;r=VE1117940651amp;c=32

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[RE][scifinoir2] Legend director, Will Smith, reuniting for fantasy?

2009-07-10 Thread Martin Baxter
If it shows up, and time allows, I'm there.





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 From : Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


Last time director Francis Lawrence teamed up with star Will Smith, it went
pretty well: I Am Legend was a big hit and got generally good-to-middling
reviews.

Well, now comes news that Lawrence and Smith may reunite for a fantastical
drama titled The City That Sailed at 20th Century Fox, according to The
Hollywood Reporter. Here's how the trade paper reported it:

The director is developing the project, which is being produced by Smith's
Overbrook banner, with an eye to direct. 

Written by Andrew Niccol, the story follows a New York City street magician
whose daughter, because of family circumstances, lives in England. In
exploring a lighthouse one day, the girl discovers a room with magic candles
and wishes to be reunited with her father, causing the island of Manhattan
to break away and drift across the Pond.

Can we again expect to see Smith's spunky real-life daughter, Willow-who
played his on-screen kid in Legend-in City? That would make the family
reunion complete, wouldn't it?

http://scifiwire.com/2009/07/legend-director-will-smit.php




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Re: [scifinoir2] Legend director, Will Smith, reuniting for fantasy?

2009-07-10 Thread Daryle Lockhart
Her brother Jaden was really good in Pursuit of Happyness,  but  
unbearable in The Day The Earth Stood Still,  so  I'm down for  
WIllow in this, so long as Will plays her father. If Will's gonna  
direct it, that's fine too,  but it looks like the competitive nature  
of this family  results in some good results on screen.



On Jul 10, 2009, at 2:38 AM, Tracey de Morsella wrote:





Last time director Francis Lawrence teamed up with star Will Smith,  
it went pretty well: I Am Legend was a big hit and got generally  
good-to-middling reviews.


Well, now comes news that Lawrence and Smith may reunite for a  
fantastical drama titled The City That Sailed at 20th Century Fox,  
according to The Hollywood Reporter. Here's how the trade paper  
reported it:


The director is developing the project, which is being produced by  
Smith's Overbrook banner, with an eye to direct.


Written by Andrew Niccol, the story follows a New York City street  
magician whose daughter, because of family circumstances, lives in  
England. In exploring a lighthouse one day, the girl discovers a  
room with magic candles and wishes to be reunited with her father,  
causing the island of Manhattan to break away and drift across the  
Pond.


Can we again expect to see Smith's spunky real-life daughter, Willow 
—who played his on-screen kid in Legend—in City? That would make  
the family reunion complete, wouldn't it?


http://scifiwire.com/2009/07/legend-director-will-smit.php







[scifinoir2] Re: Legend director, Will Smith, reuniting for fantasy?

2009-07-10 Thread ravenadal
The Smiths believe in keeping it in the family.  Jada Pinkett-Smith's younger 
brother, Caleeb, has a role in Lakeview Terrace which was produced by husband 
Will Smith's Overbrook Productions.

~rave!
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart dar...@... wrote:

 Her brother Jaden was really good in Pursuit of Happyness,  but  
 unbearable in The Day The Earth Stood Still,  so  I'm down for  
 WIllow in this, so long as Will plays her father. If Will's gonna  
 direct it, that's fine too,  but it looks like the competitive nature  
 of this family  results in some good results on screen.
 
 
 On Jul 10, 2009, at 2:38 AM, Tracey de Morsella wrote:
 
 
 
 
  Last time director Francis Lawrence teamed up with star Will Smith,  
  it went pretty well: I Am Legend was a big hit and got generally  
  good-to-middling reviews.
 
  Well, now comes news that Lawrence and Smith may reunite for a  
  fantastical drama titled The City That Sailed at 20th Century Fox,  
  according to The Hollywood Reporter. Here's how the trade paper  
  reported it:
 
  The director is developing the project, which is being produced by  
  Smith's Overbrook banner, with an eye to direct.
 
  Written by Andrew Niccol, the story follows a New York City street  
  magician whose daughter, because of family circumstances, lives in  
  England. In exploring a lighthouse one day, the girl discovers a  
  room with magic candles and wishes to be reunited with her father,  
  causing the island of Manhattan to break away and drift across the  
  Pond.
 
  Can we again expect to see Smith's spunky real-life daughter, Willow 
  —who played his on-screen kid in Legend—in City? That would make  
  the family reunion complete, wouldn't it?
 
  http://scifiwire.com/2009/07/legend-director-will-smit.php
 
 
 





Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade

2009-07-10 Thread B. Smith
I guess the continued usage owes a lot to Lovecraft's work. He was an enormous 
talent but a repellent human being.

Has anyone read Robert W. Chambers The King In Yellow? Chambers was one of 
Lovecraft's big influences and Chambers King In Yellow mythos became part of 
Lovecraft's Chthulhu mythos.

Chamber's work centers around a cursed play that when read reveals hidden 
horrible truths and brings you to the attention of entities that at the very 
least drive you insane. If the play was performed it could summon the titular 
character and that by all accounts is not a good thing.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 Ditto 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 7:59:07 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Keith, I don't find those words antiquated either. Many of them find 
 their ways into my stories, and some even into my everyday conversations. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade 
 Date : Thu, 9 Jul 2009 03:32:17 + (UTC) 
 From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... 
 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 
 Interesting. Like Howard, another guy who clung to his mother and was fearful 
 and reclusive. I guess that's where the terror and primal fear of his tales 
 (so I've heard, never having read them) originates. Stephen King, I recall, 
 was said to be a very scary child. His friends used to enjoy terrifying him 
 with ghost stories. 
 
 I did find this passage from the entry interesting: 
 
 His prose is somewhat antiquarian . Often he employed archaic vocabulary or 
 spelling which had already by his time been replaced by contemporary 
 coinages; examples including Esquimau , and Comanchian. He was given to heavy 
 use of an esoteric lexicon including such words as  eldritch ,  rugose , 
  noisome ,  squamous ,  ichor , and  cyclopean , and of attempts to 
 transcribe dialect speech which have been criticized as clumsy, imprecise, 
 and condescending. His works also featured British English (he was an 
 admitted Anglophile ), and he sometimes made use of anachronistic spellings, 
 such as compleat (for complete), shew (show), lanthorn (lantern), 
 and phantasy (fantasy; also appearing as phantastic). 
 
 
 Interesting because just about all of those words are fairly normal to me, 
 especially words like shew, which are familiar to me from years of reading 
 the King James Bible. And I wouldn't call eldritch, noisome, or ichor 
 esoteric or antiquated at all, especially in the realms of 
 scifi/fantasy/horror. 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Martin Baxter 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 8:53:17 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Keith, this might provide answers for you. 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Date : Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:38:44 + (UTC) 
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 I only know of Lovecraft through references in other works (such as, 
 surprisingly, The Real Ghostbusters cartoon series), and, ironically, 
 through a dude I knew back in middle school who loved him, and who was also 
 the grandson of a Klansman. 
 What's up with his racist views? 
 
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:57:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Lovecraft's racism have permanently soured me on his work. I know del Toro 
 will knock it out of the park but it's a bittersweet feeling. 
 
 Drood is an interesting novel but I couldn't plow through it. Dan Simmons has 
 caught a case of the bloat. And the crazy but that's a whole different story. 
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter wrote: 
  
  He's doing Lovecraft... 
  
  (breaks out into the HappyHappyJoyJoy Dance) 
  
  
  
  
  
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 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
  
  
  Del Toro co-writes vampire movie; wants to film Drood. 
  
  (Check out the link for the pictures) 
  
  http://oluik.notlong.com 
  
  Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro decade: 'The Hobbit' director is just 
  getting started 
  
  One of the gentle souls in the movie business is Guillermo del Toro, and I 
  always look forward to my interviews with him. This is a longer version of 
  my latest story on 

[RE][scifinoir2] See why i dont have a dog ?????

2009-07-10 Thread Martin Baxter
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[scifinoir2] Three great Karl Malden movies on TCM tonight

2009-07-10 Thread ravenadal
97 year-old Karl Malden passed away on July 1st and TCM is showing three of his 
best tonight (all times CT):

At 7 pm On the Waterfront, as priest to Brando's pug.

At 9 pm A Streetcar Named Desire, as Blanche's gentleman caller.

At 11 pm Birdman of Alcatraz, as warden to Burt Lancaster's Birdman.

I love movie star names:  Malden was born Mladen Sekulovich.  

~rave!

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[RE][scifinoir2] Three great Karl Malden movies on TCM tonight

2009-07-10 Thread Martin Baxter
I'll be tuned in, but I'll be missing an hour of Waterfront. Loved his work 
across the board, and I would take in all of them, but Eureka premieres 
tonight.





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97 year-old Karl Malden passed away on July 1st and TCM is showing three of his 
best tonight (all times CT):

At 7 pm On the Waterfront, as priest to Brando's pug.

At 9 pm A Streetcar Named Desire, as Blanche's gentleman caller.

At 11 pm Birdman of Alcatraz, as warden to Burt Lancaster's Birdman.

I love movie star names: Malden was born Mladen Sekulovich. 

~rave!

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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Three great Karl Malden movies on TCM tonight

2009-07-10 Thread ravenadal
Hey, a man gotta have priorities!

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:

 I'll be tuned in, but I'll be missing an hour of Waterfront. Loved his work 
 across the board, and I would take in all of them, but Eureka premieres 
 tonight.




[scifinoir2] Moon puts fiction back in science fiction

2009-07-10 Thread ravenadal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhIB0mqbPiE

http://www.jsonline.com/entertainment/movies/50384927.html

Lonely man in the 'Moon'

By Duane Dudek of the Journal Sentinel

Posted: July 9, 2009

Moon is one small step for mankind.

It puts the fiction back into science fiction, not because it's unbelievable 
but because it's a life-size and plausible portrait of our daily gravity.

Too many genre films are virtual, superheroic variations on arbitrary themes 
and are slaves to the digital technologies that allow them to portray anything.

The less-is-more aesthetic of Moon, by comparison, is a reminder that true 
creativity is a function of ideas and imagination. In much the same way we take 
for granted the fact that science drives our lives in countless and invisible 
ways, Moon takes a satisfyingly pragmatic approach to the extraordinary.

And in the process, it puts a human face and heart at the center of its 
universe - a man in the moon, if you will.

Sam Rockwell portrays the only human employee at a lunar factory where his 
companion is a HAL-like computer named Gerty, voiced by Kevin Spacey.

For technical reasons, Rockwell cannot communicate directly with home; he sees 
his daughter grow up in tape-delayed messages from his wife and watches old 
sitcom reruns. Rockwell is just two weeks away from completing a three-year 
service contract and returning to Earth. If he is going a bit buggy, talking to 
his plants and seeing things, these seem a reasonable response to his isolation.

Unless, of course, they represent something else.

Perhaps things are not as they seem. Perhaps he is not really alone. Or perhaps 
he is more alone than he knows.

Lunacy runs in the family of director Duncan Jones: His singer-songwriter 
father, David Bowie, imagined all manner of star men, space oddities and 
spiders from Mars. But if there is an apple-doesn't-fall-far-from-the-tree 
quality to the material, the approach has its roots in the golden age of 
science fiction.

The miniatures, matte paintings and digital effects do not dazzle; like 
Rockwell's space suit worn with use, they add a scruffy realism. The way Jones' 
camera looms over cramped spaces like a surveillance video adds a Big Brother 
feel to the piece.

And the edgy, slightly crazed Rockwell, practically the only actor in the film, 
is a sympathetic, cautionary figure howling at the moon.

Moon is not about the dangers of technology, but mankind's misuse of it.

Even before President John Kennedy vowed to make landing on the moon a national 
priority, the exploitation of it for war or profit seemed inevitable. Moon 
portrays such possibilities, in service of some greater good, as the banal 
oppression of the very qualities that make us human.

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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale

2009-07-10 Thread Augustus Augustus
o.k. axe Jaleel for jimmy dean's Moon (actually the very underrated Kelly 
PerineDustin Dusty Canyon - the weather man!)  actually if we go with 
Kelly, how about his co-star in 'Between Brothers' Kadeem Hardison as Aragon 
instead of Vin Diesel?  Hardison is a MUCH better actor!

--- On Wed, 7/8/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote:

From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 11:55 PM
















  
  Jaleel White as Samwise. Isn't that Steve Erkel? Have you *seen* that 
guy in recent years? He's built like a football player! No way I see him as the 
bumbling, lovable, fat Samwise! How about that slightly chubby comedian from 
the defunct sitcom One on One? He played Flex Alexander's best friend. Dusty 
something.
He's also  in a commercial recently for Jimmy Dean sausage where he plays the 
Moon or the Sun (no kidding!)

He'd be perfect as Sam. Either him, or that corny comedian from Saturday Night 
Live who used ot have a sitcom on Nick. He also played Fat Albert in the live 
action movie. Name escapes me at the moment.

- Original Message -
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To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 3:35:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
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  emmanuel lewis would be the dwarf, vin diesel as aragon (wanted snipes, 
but u have hive as legolas), denzel washington as elron, spike lee directing, 
jaleel white as sam wisegangie

--- On Wed, 7/8/09, Milton Davis mv_media_atl@ yahoo.com wrote:

From: Milton Davis mv_media_atl@ yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 2:50 PM









  
  I would do a Gansta remake of Lord of The Rings: Pimp of the Bling.
Snoop Dogg would be Gandalf, Gary Coleman would be Golem, Wesley Snipes would 
be Legolas and Gabrielle Union would be the pretty elf girl. The ring would be 
the shizznat! I'm still working on the cast.

--- On Mon, 7/6/09, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo. com wrote:


From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo. com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 5:17 PM




The way I would use this opportunity is to remake movies like Douglas 
(Imitation of Life) Sirk's All That Heaven Allows (1955) which originally 
starred Jane Wyman an Rock Hudson. Here's a synopsis: Cary, a wealthy widow, 
falls in love with the much younger nurseryman, Ron Kirby. This provides gossip 
for the country club set, and her children are ashamed that she plans to 
remarry below her station. Ron is an independent man who can ignore the petty 
conventions of society, but can Cary also ignore them? 

I would remake this with Angela Bassett in the Wyman role and Marcus Patrick 
(Descent) in the Hudson role. 

Then I would cast and overpay unemployed black actors and actresses that I like 
such as:

Ron Glass (who looks great and was very good as Kerry Washington's father in 
Lakeview Terrace)

David Ramsey (very charismatic as Anton Brigs on Dexter)

Tracie Thoms (Cold Case, Rent)

Cassandra Freeman
 (Inside Man - MY choice for new Uhura).

I would also like to make a big budget remake of Alfred Hitchcock's Marnie 
with Halle Berry in the Tippi Hedren role, Denzel Washington in the Sean 
Connery role and Morgan Freeman in the Alan Napier role.

~rave!

--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, B. Smith daikaiju66@ ... wrote:

Another would be Frank Miller and Dave Gibbons' Give Me Liberty. Martha is a 
hard casting choice because you need someone young but with some grit. My 
wife's suggestion hit it out of the park: Keke Palmer. She's definitely has the 
chops to do it and is the right age. `I think Edward Norton or Christian Bale 
would be perfect as her antagonist Morreti. Adam Beach could be a great 
Wasserstein.
 
 --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@  wrote:
 
 As for casting a movie, I'd do Ellis and Hitch's The Authority. Casting --
  
  Jenny Quantum -- Ellen Page
  Apollo -- Brad Pitt (because Apollo is one PURDY man, and Pitt is just that)
  The Midnighter -- Karl Urban
  The Doctor -- Kal Penn (if I could talk him away from his present job)
  The Engineer -- Jennifer Lopez (I'm *not* a fan of hers by any means, but 
  she's best here for the role)
  Jack Hawksmoor -- Jason Statham (all he does is glower and kick a$$, so 
  *behold*! Statham's defining role)
  Swift -- Michelle Yeoh
  Rose Tattoo -- Rosario Dawson (all she needs to do is to let her hair grow
 out a bit)
  
  
  
  
  
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[RE][scifinoir2] Moon puts fiction back in science fiction

2009-07-10 Thread Martin Baxter
rave, this draws me to the movie more than its initial premise.

Also reminds me of an argument I had with my Last Ex, her decrying science 
fiction for being little more than flashy lasers and zoomy spaceships. If I 
were still on speaking terms with her, I'd forward her this.





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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhIB0mqbPiE

http://www.jsonline.com/entertainment/movies/50384927.html

Lonely man in the 'Moon'

By Duane Dudek of the Journal Sentinel

Posted: July 9, 2009

Moon is one small step for mankind.

It puts the fiction back into science fiction, not because it's unbelievable 
but because it's a life-size and plausible portrait of our daily gravity.

Too many genre films are virtual, superheroic variations on arbitrary themes 
and are slaves to the digital technologies that allow them to portray anything.

The less-is-more aesthetic of Moon, by comparison, is a reminder that true 
creativity is a function of ideas and imagination. In much the same way we take 
for granted the fact that science drives our lives in countless and invisible 
ways, Moon takes a satisfyingly pragmatic approach to the extraordinary.

And in the process, it puts a human face and heart at the center of its 
universe - a man in the moon, if you will.

Sam Rockwell portrays the only human employee at a lunar factory where his 
companion is a HAL-like computer named Gerty, voiced by Kevin Spacey.

For technical reasons, Rockwell cannot communicate directly with home; he sees 
his daughter grow up in tape-delayed messages from his wife and watches old 
sitcom reruns. Rockwell is just two weeks away from completing a three-year 
service contract and returning to Earth. If he is going a bit buggy, talking to 
his plants and seeing things, these seem a reasonable response to his isolation.

Unless, of course, they represent something else.

Perhaps things are not as they seem. Perhaps he is not really alone. Or perhaps 
he is more alone than he knows.

Lunacy runs in the family of director Duncan Jones: His singer-songwriter 
father, David Bowie, imagined all manner of star men, space oddities and 
spiders from Mars. But if there is an apple-doesn't-fall-far-from-the-tree 
quality to the material, the approach has its roots in the golden age of 
science fiction.

The miniatures, matte paintings and digital effects do not dazzle; like 
Rockwell's space suit worn with use, they add a scruffy realism. The way Jones' 
camera looms over cramped spaces like a surveillance video adds a Big Brother 
feel to the piece.

And the edgy, slightly crazed Rockwell, practically the only actor in the film, 
is a sympathetic, cautionary figure howling at the moon.

Moon is not about the dangers of technology, but mankind's misuse of it.

Even before President John Kennedy vowed to make landing on the moon a national 
priority, the exploitation of it for war or profit seemed inevitable. Moon 
portrays such possibilities, in service of some greater good, as the banal 
oppression of the very qualities that make us human.

E-mail: ddu...@journalsentinel.com

 




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Moon puts fiction back in science fiction

2009-07-10 Thread Keith Johnson
Not to stir you up again, Martin, but that's the slight thing that worries me 
about the new Star Trek. More focus on the gadgetry and FX than the original, 
and I wince when I hear people say (as the Onion spoofed) that it was fun!. 
As if that's all there is to Trek to be meaningful, and all they want going 
forward. 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 4:02:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Moon puts fiction back in science fiction 








rave, this draws me to the movie more than its initial premise. 

Also reminds me of an argument I had with my Last Ex, her decrying science 
fiction for being little more than flashy lasers and zoomy spaceships. If I 
were still on speaking terms with her, I'd forward her this. 






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Subject : [scifinoir2] Moon puts fiction back in science fiction 
Date : Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:53:12 - 
From : ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com 
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhIB0mqbPiE 

http://www.jsonline.com/entertainment/movies/50384927.html 

Lonely man in the 'Moon' 

By Duane Dudek of the Journal Sentinel 

Posted: July 9, 2009 

Moon is one small step for mankind. 

It puts the fiction back into science fiction, not because it's unbelievable 
but because it's a life-size and plausible portrait of our daily gravity. 

Too many genre films are virtual, superheroic variations on arbitrary themes 
and are slaves to the digital technologies that allow them to portray anything. 

The less-is-more aesthetic of Moon, by comparison, is a reminder that true 
creativity is a function of ideas and imagination. In much the same way we take 
for granted the fact that science drives our lives in countless and invisible 
ways, Moon takes a satisfyingly pragmatic approach to the extraordinary. 

And in the process, it puts a human face and heart at the center of its 
universe - a man in the moon, if you will. 

Sam Rockwell portrays the only human employee at a lunar factory where his 
companion is a HAL-like computer named Gerty, voiced by Kevin Spacey. 

For technical reasons, Rockwell cannot communicate directly with home; he sees 
his daughter grow up in tape-delayed messages from his wife and watches old 
sitcom reruns. Rockwell is just two weeks away from completing a three-year 
service contract and returning to Earth. If he is going a bit buggy, talking to 
his plants and seeing things, these seem a reasonable response to his 
isolation. 

Unless, of course, they represent something else. 

Perhaps things are not as they seem. Perhaps he is not really alone. Or perhaps 
he is more alone than he knows. 

Lunacy runs in the family of director Duncan Jones: His singer-songwriter 
father, David Bowie, imagined all manner of star men, space oddities and 
spiders from Mars. But if there is an apple-doesn't-fall-far-from-the-tree 
quality to the material, the approach has its roots in the golden age of 
science fiction. 

The miniatures, matte paintings and digital effects do not dazzle; like 
Rockwell's space suit worn with use, they add a scruffy realism. The way Jones' 
camera looms over cramped spaces like a surveillance video adds a Big Brother 
feel to the piece. 

And the edgy, slightly crazed Rockwell, practically the only actor in the film, 
is a sympathetic, cautionary figure howling at the moon. 

Moon is not about the dangers of technology, but mankind's misuse of it. 

Even before President John Kennedy vowed to make landing on the moon a national 
priority, the exploitation of it for war or profit seemed inevitable. Moon 
portrays such possibilities, in service of some greater good, as the banal 
oppression of the very qualities that make us human. 

E-mail: ddu...@journalsentinel.com 






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 
 

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale

2009-07-10 Thread Keith Johnson
Hardison as Aragorn? Hmm...I'd have to see him in the getup. By the way, 
Between Brothers was a good show that unfortunately never caught on. Some 
viewed it as an inferiour knockoff of then-popular Living Singles, but I 
enjoyed it. 


- Original Message - 
From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 2:28:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale 








o.k. axe Jaleel for jimmy dean's Moon (actually the very underrated Kelly 
PerineDustin Dusty Canyon - the weather man!) actually if we go with 
Kelly, how about his co-star in 'Between Brothers' Kadeem Hardison as Aragon 
instead of Vin Diesel? Hardison is a MUCH better actor! 

--- On Wed, 7/8/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: 



From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 11:55 PM 






Jaleel White as Samwise. Isn't that Steve Erkel? Have you *seen* that guy in 
recent years? He's built like a football player! No way I see him as the 
bumbling, lovable, fat Samwise! How about that slightly chubby comedian from 
the defunct sitcom One on One? He played Flex Alexander's best friend. Dusty 
something. 
He's also in a commercial recently for Jimmy Dean sausage where he plays the 
Moon or the Sun (no kidding!) 

He'd be perfect as Sam. Either him, or that corny comedian from Saturday Night 
Live who used ot have a sitcom on Nick. He also played Fat Albert in the live 
action movie. Name escapes me at the moment. 

- Original Message - 
From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 3:35:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale 








emmanuel lewis would be the dwarf, vin diesel as aragon (wanted snipes, but u 
have hive as legolas), denzel washington as elron, spike lee directing, jaleel 
white as sam wisegangie 

--- On Wed, 7/8/09, Milton Davis mv_media_atl@ yahoo.com wrote: 



From: Milton Davis mv_media_atl@ yahoo.com 
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 2:50 PM 






I would do a Gansta remake of Lord of The Rings: Pimp of the Bling. 
Snoop Dogg would be Gandalf, Gary Coleman would be Golem, Wesley Snipes would 
be Legolas and Gabrielle Union would be the pretty elf girl. The ring would be 
the shizznat! I'm still working on the cast. 

--- On Mon, 7/6/09, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo. com wrote: 



From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo. com 
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 5:17 PM 




The way I would use this opportunity is to remake movies like Douglas 
(Imitation of Life) Sirk's All That Heaven Allows (1955) which originally 
starred Jane Wyman an Rock Hudson. Here's a synopsis: Cary, a wealthy widow, 
falls in love with the much younger nurseryman, Ron Kirby. This provides gossip 
for the country club set, and her children are ashamed that she plans to 
remarry below her station. Ron is an independent man who can ignore the petty 
conventions of society, but can Cary also ignore them? 

I would remake this with Angela Bassett in the Wyman role and Marcus Patrick 
(Descent) in the Hudson role. 

Then I would cast and overpay unemployed black actors and actresses that I like 
such as: 

Ron Glass (who looks great and was very good as Kerry Washington's father in 
Lakeview Terrace) 

David Ramsey (very charismatic as Anton Brigs on Dexter) 

Tracie Thoms (Cold Case, Rent) 

Cassandra Freeman (Inside Man - MY choice for new Uhura). 

I would also like to make a big budget remake of Alfred Hitchcock's Marnie 
with Halle Berry in the Tippi Hedren role, Denzel Washington in the Sean 
Connery role and Morgan Freeman in the Alan Napier role. 

~rave! 

--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com , B. Smith daikaiju66@ ... wrote: 

Another would be Frank Miller and Dave Gibbons' Give Me Liberty. Martha is a 
hard casting choice because you need someone young but with some grit. My 
wife's suggestion hit it out of the park: Keke Palmer. She's definitely has the 
chops to do it and is the right age. `I think Edward Norton or Christian Bale 
would be perfect as her antagonist Morreti. Adam Beach could be a great 
Wasserstein. 
 
 --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com , Martin Baxter truthseeker013@  
 wrote: 
  
 As for casting a movie, I'd do Ellis and Hitch's The Authority. Casting -- 
  
  Jenny Quantum -- Ellen Page 
  Apollo -- Brad Pitt (because Apollo is one PURDY man, and Pitt is just 
  that) 
  The Midnighter -- Karl Urban 
  The Doctor -- Kal Penn (if I could talk him away from his present job) 
  The 

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Moon puts fiction back in science fiction

2009-07-10 Thread Martin Baxter
Thank you for the concern, Keith. As for the it's fun! comment -- I just let 
it go now. Too many real things in life to focus on.





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 From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


Not to stir you up again, Martin, but that's the slight thing that worries me 
about the new Star Trek. More focus on the gadgetry and FX than the original, 
and I wince when I hear people say (as the Onion spoofed) that it was fun!. 
As if that's all there is to Trek to be meaningful, and all they want going 
forward. 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 4:02:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Moon puts fiction back in science fiction 








rave, this draws me to the movie more than its initial premise. 

Also reminds me of an argument I had with my Last Ex, her decrying science 
fiction for being little more than flashy lasers and zoomy spaceships. If I 
were still on speaking terms with her, I'd forward her this. 






-[ Received Mail Content ]-- 
Subject : [scifinoir2] Moon puts fiction back in science fiction 
Date : Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:53:12 - 
From : ravenadal  
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhIB0mqbPiE 

http://www.jsonline.com/entertainment/movies/50384927.html 

Lonely man in the 'Moon' 

By Duane Dudek of the Journal Sentinel 

Posted: July 9, 2009 

Moon is one small step for mankind. 

It puts the fiction back into science fiction, not because it's unbelievable 
but because it's a life-size and plausible portrait of our daily gravity. 

Too many genre films are virtual, superheroic variations on arbitrary themes 
and are slaves to the digital technologies that allow them to portray anything. 

The less-is-more aesthetic of Moon, by comparison, is a reminder that true 
creativity is a function of ideas and imagination. In much the same way we take 
for granted the fact that science drives our lives in countless and invisible 
ways, Moon takes a satisfyingly pragmatic approach to the extraordinary. 

And in the process, it puts a human face and heart at the center of its 
universe - a man in the moon, if you will. 

Sam Rockwell portrays the only human employee at a lunar factory where his 
companion is a HAL-like computer named Gerty, voiced by Kevin Spacey. 

For technical reasons, Rockwell cannot communicate directly with home; he sees 
his daughter grow up in tape-delayed messages from his wife and watches old 
sitcom reruns. Rockwell is just two weeks away from completing a three-year 
service contract and returning to Earth. If he is going a bit buggy, talking to 
his plants and seeing things, these seem a reasonable response to his 
isolation. 

Unless, of course, they represent something else. 

Perhaps things are not as they seem. Perhaps he is not really alone. Or perhaps 
he is more alone than he knows. 

Lunacy runs in the family of director Duncan Jones: His singer-songwriter 
father, David Bowie, imagined all manner of star men, space oddities and 
spiders from Mars. But if there is an apple-doesn't-fall-far-from-the-tree 
quality to the material, the approach has its roots in the golden age of 
science fiction. 

The miniatures, matte paintings and digital effects do not dazzle; like 
Rockwell's space suit worn with use, they add a scruffy realism. The way Jones' 
camera looms over cramped spaces like a surveillance video adds a Big Brother 
feel to the piece. 

And the edgy, slightly crazed Rockwell, practically the only actor in the film, 
is a sympathetic, cautionary figure howling at the moon. 

Moon is not about the dangers of technology, but mankind's misuse of it. 

Even before President John Kennedy vowed to make landing on the moon a national 
priority, the exploitation of it for war or profit seemed inevitable. Moon 
portrays such possibilities, in service of some greater good, as the banal 
oppression of the very qualities that make us human. 

E-mail: ddu...@journalsentinel.com 






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 
 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

[scifinoir2] OT: Handheld fusion reactor on the way?

2009-07-10 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, the bibs are in the bin just to the left of the doorway...


http://dvice.com/archives/2009/07/handheld-fusion.php


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Moon puts fiction back in science fiction

2009-07-10 Thread Augustus Augustus
Hey Martin,

u know i had 2 do this right?  it was FUN!



--- On Fri, 7/10/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com wrote:

From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Moon puts fiction back in science fiction
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 6:18 PM
















  
 Thank you for the concern, Keith. As for the it's fun! comment -- I 
just let it go now. Too many real things in life to focus on.





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 From : Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net

 To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com



Not to stir you up again, Martin, but that's the slight thing that worries me 
about the new Star Trek. More focus on the gadgetry and FX than the original, 
and I wince when I hear people say (as the Onion spoofed) that it was fun!. 
As if that's all there is to Trek to be meaningful, and all they want going 
forward. 



- Original Message - 

From: Martin Baxter  

To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 

Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 4:02:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 

Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Moon puts fiction back in science fiction 

















rave, this draws me to the movie more than its initial premise. 



Also reminds me of an argument I had with my Last Ex, her decrying science 
fiction for being little more than flashy lasers and zoomy spaceships. If I 
were still on speaking terms with her, I'd forward her this. 













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Subject : [scifinoir2] Moon puts fiction back in science fiction 

Date : Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:53:12 - 

From : ravenadal  

To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 



http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=lhIB0mqbPiE 



http://www.jsonline .com/entertainme nt/movies/ 50384927. html 



Lonely man in the 'Moon' 



By Duane Dudek of the Journal Sentinel 



Posted: July 9, 2009 



Moon is one small step for mankind. 



It puts the fiction back into science fiction, not because it's unbelievable 
but because it's a life-size and plausible portrait of our daily gravity. 



Too many genre films are virtual, superheroic variations on arbitrary themes 
and are slaves to the digital technologies that allow them to portray anything. 



The less-is-more aesthetic of Moon, by comparison, is a reminder that true 
creativity is a function of ideas and imagination. In much the same way we take 
for granted the fact that science drives our lives in countless and invisible 
ways, Moon takes a satisfyingly pragmatic approach to the extraordinary. 



And in the process, it puts a human face and heart at the center of its 
universe - a man in the moon, if you will. 



Sam Rockwell portrays the only human employee at a lunar factory where his 
companion is a HAL-like computer named Gerty, voiced by Kevin Spacey. 



For technical reasons, Rockwell cannot communicate directly with home; he sees 
his daughter grow up in tape-delayed messages from his wife and watches old 
sitcom reruns. Rockwell is just two weeks away from completing a three-year 
service contract and returning to Earth. If he is going a bit buggy, talking to 
his plants and seeing things, these seem a reasonable response to his 
isolation. 



Unless, of course, they represent something else. 



Perhaps things are not as they seem. Perhaps he is not really alone. Or perhaps 
he is more alone than he knows. 



Lunacy runs in the family of director Duncan Jones: His singer-songwriter 
father, David Bowie, imagined all manner of star men, space oddities and 
spiders from Mars. But if there is an apple-doesn' t-fall-far- from-the- tree 
quality to the material, the approach has its roots in the golden age of 
science fiction. 



The miniatures, matte paintings and digital effects do not dazzle; like 
Rockwell's space suit worn with use, they add a scruffy realism. The way Jones' 
camera looms over cramped spaces like a surveillance video adds a Big Brother 
feel to the piece. 



And the edgy, slightly crazed Rockwell, practically the only actor in the film, 
is a sympathetic, cautionary figure howling at the moon. 



Moon is not about the dangers of technology, but mankind's misuse of it. 



Even before President John Kennedy vowed to make landing on the moon a national 
priority, the exploitation of it for war or profit seemed inevitable. Moon 
portrays such possibilities, in service of some greater good, as the banal 
oppression of the very qualities that make us human. 



E-mail: ddu...@journalsenti nel.com 













http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds 

 


http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds



 

  




 

















  

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Moon puts fiction back in science fiction

2009-07-10 Thread Amy Harlib

ahar...@earthlink.net
I saw Moon and loved it!  It's that rare thing - an SF film that actually has 
an intelligent plot and good characterization as well as excellent visuals.  
It's still playing in a couple of art houses here in NYC.

Cheers!
Amy





  Not to stir you up again, Martin, but that's the slight thing that worries me 
about the new Star Trek. More focus on the gadgetry and FX than the original, 
and I wince when I hear people say (as the Onion spoofed) that it was fun!. 
As if that's all there is to Trek to be meaningful, and all they want going 
forward.

  - Original Message -
  From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 4:02:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
  Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Moon puts fiction back in science fiction




rave, this draws me to the movie more than its initial premise.

Also reminds me of an argument I had with my Last Ex, her decrying 
science fiction for being little more than flashy lasers and zoomy 
spaceships. If I were still on speaking terms with her, I'd forward her this.





  -[ Received Mail Content ]--
  Subject : [scifinoir2] Moon puts fiction back in science fiction
  Date : Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:53:12 -
  From : ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com
  To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhIB0mqbPiE 

  http://www.jsonline.com/entertainment/movies/50384927.html 

  Lonely man in the 'Moon' 

  By Duane Dudek of the Journal Sentinel 

  Posted: July 9, 2009 

  Moon is one small step for mankind. 

  It puts the fiction back into science fiction, not because it's 
unbelievable but because it's a life-size and plausible portrait of our daily 
gravity. 

  Too many genre films are virtual, superheroic variations on arbitrary 
themes and are slaves to the digital technologies that allow them to portray 
anything. 

  The less-is-more aesthetic of Moon, by comparison, is a reminder 
that true creativity is a function of ideas and imagination. In much the same 
way we take for granted the fact that science drives our lives in countless and 
invisible ways, Moon takes a satisfyingly pragmatic approach to the 
extraordinary. 

  And in the process, it puts a human face and heart at the center of 
its universe - a man in the moon, if you will. 

  Sam Rockwell portrays the only human employee at a lunar factory 
where his companion is a HAL-like computer named Gerty, voiced by Kevin Spacey. 

  For technical reasons, Rockwell cannot communicate directly with 
home; he sees his daughter grow up in tape-delayed messages from his wife and 
watches old sitcom reruns. Rockwell is just two weeks away from completing a 
three-year service contract and returning to Earth. If he is going a bit buggy, 
talking to his plants and seeing things, these seem a reasonable response to 
his isolation. 

  Unless, of course, they represent something else. 

  Perhaps things are not as they seem. Perhaps he is not really alone. 
Or perhaps he is more alone than he knows. 

  Lunacy runs in the family of director Duncan Jones: His 
singer-songwriter father, David Bowie, imagined all manner of star men, space 
oddities and spiders from Mars. But if there is an 
apple-doesn't-fall-far-from-the-tree quality to the material, the approach has 
its roots in the golden age of science fiction. 

  The miniatures, matte paintings and digital effects do not dazzle; 
like Rockwell's space suit worn with use, they add a scruffy realism. The way 
Jones' camera looms over cramped spaces like a surveillance video adds a Big 
Brother feel to the piece. 

  And the edgy, slightly crazed Rockwell, practically the only actor in 
the film, is a sympathetic, cautionary figure howling at the moon. 

  Moon is not about the dangers of technology, but mankind's misuse 
of it. 

  Even before President John Kennedy vowed to make landing on the moon 
a national priority, the exploitation of it for war or profit seemed 
inevitable. Moon portrays such possibilities, in service of some greater 
good, as the banal oppression of the very qualities that make us human. 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Legend director, Will Smith, reuniting for fantasy?

2009-07-10 Thread Mr. Worf
Has anyone watched the show that Jada star's in? What is your opinion of it?

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:00 AM, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The Smiths believe in keeping it in the family.  Jada Pinkett-Smith's
 younger brother, Caleeb, has a role in Lakeview Terrace which was produced
 by husband Will Smith's Overbrook Productions.

 ~rave!
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart dar...@... wrote:
 
  Her brother Jaden was really good in Pursuit of Happyness,  but
  unbearable in The Day The Earth Stood Still,  so  I'm down for
  WIllow in this, so long as Will plays her father. If Will's gonna
  direct it, that's fine too,  but it looks like the competitive nature
  of this family  results in some good results on screen.
 
 
  On Jul 10, 2009, at 2:38 AM, Tracey de Morsella wrote:
 
  
  
  
   Last time director Francis Lawrence teamed up with star Will Smith,
   it went pretty well: I Am Legend was a big hit and got generally
   good-to-middling reviews.
  
   Well, now comes news that Lawrence and Smith may reunite for a
   fantastical drama titled The City That Sailed at 20th Century Fox,
   according to The Hollywood Reporter. Here's how the trade paper
   reported it:
  
   The director is developing the project, which is being produced by
   Smith's Overbrook banner, with an eye to direct.
  
   Written by Andrew Niccol, the story follows a New York City street
   magician whose daughter, because of family circumstances, lives in
   England. In exploring a lighthouse one day, the girl discovers a
   room with magic candles and wishes to be reunited with her father,
   causing the island of Manhattan to break away and drift across the
   Pond.
  
   Can we again expect to see Smith's spunky real-life daughter, Willow
   —who played his on-screen kid in Legend—in City? That would make
   the family reunion complete, wouldn't it?
  
   http://scifiwire.com/2009/07/legend-director-will-smit.php
  
  
  
 




 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Legend director, Will Smith, reuniting for fantasy?

2009-07-10 Thread Augustus Augustus
Mr. Worf,
 
my wifey has me watching Hawthorne.  so far i have 2 say, pretty good.  i am 
used 2 seeing these hospital type shoes from the doctors point of view.  to see 
it fromthe nurses point of view is different, but fun.  like we say in the 
Marines, officers get the glory, but Sergeants run the Corps.
 
Gunnery Sergeant Fate
2d Recon Batt.
USMC

--- On Fri, 7/10/09, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Legend director, Will Smith, reuniting for 
fantasy?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 11:20 PM








Has anyone watched the show that Jada star's in? What is your opinion of it?


On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:00 AM, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo. com wrote:

The Smiths believe in keeping it in the family.  Jada Pinkett-Smith's younger 
brother, Caleeb, has a role in Lakeview Terrace which was produced by husband 
Will Smith's Overbrook Productions.

~rave!



--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Daryle Lockhart dar...@... wrote:

 Her brother Jaden was really good in Pursuit of Happyness,  but
 unbearable in The Day The Earth Stood Still,  so  I'm down for
 WIllow in this, so long as Will plays her father. If Will's gonna
 direct it, that's fine too,  but it looks like the competitive nature
 of this family  results in some good results on screen.


 On Jul 10, 2009, at 2:38 AM, Tracey de Morsella wrote:

 
 
 
  Last time director Francis Lawrence teamed up with star Will Smith,
  it went pretty well: I Am Legend was a big hit and got generally
  good-to-middling reviews.
 
  Well, now comes news that Lawrence and Smith may reunite for a
  fantastical drama titled The City That Sailed at 20th Century Fox,
  according to The Hollywood Reporter. Here's how the trade paper
  reported it:
 
  The director is developing the project, which is being produced by
  Smith's Overbrook banner, with an eye to direct.
 
  Written by Andrew Niccol, the story follows a New York City street
  magician whose daughter, because of family circumstances, lives in
  England. In exploring a lighthouse one day, the girl discovers a
  room with magic candles and wishes to be reunited with her father,
  causing the island of Manhattan to break away and drift across the
  Pond.
 
  Can we again expect to see Smith's spunky real-life daughter, Willow
  —who played his on-screen kid in Legend—in City? That would make
  the family reunion complete, wouldn't it?
 
  http://scifiwire. com/2009/ 07/legend- director- will-smit. php
 
 
 





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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale

2009-07-10 Thread Augustus Augustus
i loved Between Brothers!  it was kool seeing brothers with jobs and 
responsibilities.  i have always been a Kadeem Hardison fan.  grow his beard 
some and he would be a killer Aragon.  think i would go with Vin Diesel as 
either Boromir or his brother.  

--- On Fri, 7/10/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote:


From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 6:07 PM









Hardison as Aragorn? Hmm...I'd have to see him in the getup. By the way, 
Between Brothers was a good show that unfortunately never caught on. Some 
viewed it as an inferiour knockoff of then-popular Living Singles, but I 
enjoyed it.


- Original Message -
From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 2:28:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale











o.k. axe Jaleel for jimmy dean's Moon (actually the very underrated Kelly 
PerineDustin Dusty Canyon - the weather man!)  actually if we go with 
Kelly, how about his co-star in 'Between Brothers' Kadeem Hardison as Aragon 
instead of Vin Diesel?  Hardison is a MUCH better actor!

--- On Wed, 7/8/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote:


From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 11:55 PM





Jaleel White as Samwise. Isn't that Steve Erkel? Have you *seen* that guy in 
recent years? He's built like a football player! No way I see him as the 
bumbling, lovable, fat Samwise! How about that slightly chubby comedian from 
the defunct sitcom One on One? He played Flex Alexander's best friend. Dusty 
something.
He's also  in a commercial recently for Jimmy Dean sausage where he plays the 
Moon or the Sun (no kidding!)

He'd be perfect as Sam. Either him, or that corny comedian from Saturday Night 
Live who used ot have a sitcom on Nick. He also played Fat Albert in the live 
action movie. Name escapes me at the moment.

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To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
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emmanuel lewis would be the dwarf, vin diesel as aragon (wanted snipes, but u 
have hive as legolas), denzel washington as elron, spike lee directing, jaleel 
white as sam wisegangie

--- On Wed, 7/8/09, Milton Davis mv_media_atl@ yahoo.com wrote:


From: Milton Davis mv_media_atl@ yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 2:50 PM









I would do a Gansta remake of Lord of The Rings: Pimp of the Bling.
Snoop Dogg would be Gandalf, Gary Coleman would be Golem, Wesley Snipes would 
be Legolas and Gabrielle Union would be the pretty elf girl. The ring would be 
the shizznat! I'm still working on the cast.

--- On Mon, 7/6/09, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo. com wrote:


From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo. com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 5:17 PM




The way I would use this opportunity is to remake movies like Douglas 
(Imitation of Life) Sirk's All That Heaven Allows (1955) which originally 
starred Jane Wyman an Rock Hudson. Here's a synopsis: Cary, a wealthy widow, 
falls in love with the much younger nurseryman, Ron Kirby. This provides gossip 
for the country club set, and her children are ashamed that she plans to 
remarry below her station. Ron is an independent man who can ignore the petty 
conventions of society, but can Cary also ignore them? 

I would remake this with Angela Bassett in the Wyman role and Marcus Patrick 
(Descent) in the Hudson role. 

Then I would cast and overpay unemployed black actors and actresses that I like 
such as:

Ron Glass (who looks great and was very good as Kerry Washington's father in 
Lakeview Terrace)

David Ramsey (very charismatic as Anton Brigs on Dexter)

Tracie Thoms (Cold Case, Rent)

Cassandra Freeman (Inside Man - MY choice for new Uhura).

I would also like to make a big budget remake of Alfred Hitchcock's Marnie 
with Halle Berry in the Tippi Hedren role, Denzel Washington in the Sean 
Connery role and Morgan Freeman in the Alan Napier role.

~rave!

--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, B. Smith daikaiju66@ ... wrote:

Another would be Frank Miller and Dave Gibbons' Give Me Liberty. Martha is a 
hard casting choice because you need someone young but with some grit. My 
wife's suggestion hit it out of the park: Keke Palmer. She's definitely has the 
chops to do it and is the right age. `I think Edward Norton or 

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Handheld fusion reactor on the way?

2009-07-10 Thread Keith Johnson
wow... 

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From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com 
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Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:05:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Handheld fusion reactor on the way? 








Keith, the bibs are in the bin just to the left of the doorway... 


http://dvice.com/archives/2009/07/handheld-fusion.php 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 
 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Legend director, Will Smith, reuniting for fantasy?

2009-07-10 Thread mcjennings124
Hawthorne?  I like HER in it.  I like the show generally.  Her daughter is a 
bit over the top, and she's a bit of a Super-Nurse.

Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com

Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:20:24 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Legend director, Will Smith, reuniting for 
fantasy?


Has anyone watched the show that Jada star's in? What is your opinion of it?

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:00 AM, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The Smiths believe in keeping it in the family.  Jada Pinkett-Smith's
 younger brother, Caleeb, has a role in Lakeview Terrace which was produced
 by husband Will Smith's Overbrook Productions.

 ~rave!
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart dar...@... wrote:
 
  Her brother Jaden was really good in Pursuit of Happyness,  but
  unbearable in The Day The Earth Stood Still,  so  I'm down for
  WIllow in this, so long as Will plays her father. If Will's gonna
  direct it, that's fine too,  but it looks like the competitive nature
  of this family  results in some good results on screen.
 
 
  On Jul 10, 2009, at 2:38 AM, Tracey de Morsella wrote:
 
  
  
  
   Last time director Francis Lawrence teamed up with star Will Smith,
   it went pretty well: I Am Legend was a big hit and got generally
   good-to-middling reviews.
  
   Well, now comes news that Lawrence and Smith may reunite for a
   fantastical drama titled The City That Sailed at 20th Century Fox,
   according to The Hollywood Reporter. Here's how the trade paper
   reported it:
  
   The director is developing the project, which is being produced by
   Smith's Overbrook banner, with an eye to direct.
  
   Written by Andrew Niccol, the story follows a New York City street
   magician whose daughter, because of family circumstances, lives in
   England. In exploring a lighthouse one day, the girl discovers a
   room with magic candles and wishes to be reunited with her father,
   causing the island of Manhattan to break away and drift across the
   Pond.
  
   Can we again expect to see Smith's spunky real-life daughter, Willow
   —who played his on-screen kid in Legend—in City? That would make
   the family reunion complete, wouldn't it?
  
   http://scifiwire.com/2009/07/legend-director-will-smit.php
  
  
  
 




 

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