RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like

[Reece Jennings]

Pardon the spelling.  Blackberry/Crackberry!

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:17 PM
To: SciFi2
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like


  

I'm 62! I 'discovered'. Octavia Butler I my late 40s. There ARE no limits
except the ones we put on ourselves. Go on. Discover and enjoy!

And for me, it's still about books. The pictures that the words create in my
imagination are perfect for me. They don't need translation ore
interpretation.



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From: "ravenadal" 
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:47:35 -
To: 
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like


  

Is it possible to become a sci-fi reader in one's thirties? I have always
considered SF a young person's game - if you don't get the bug early you
seldom get it. I wish I had a dollar for every time I have suggested a great
book to someone post thirty to only be met with a "I don't read science
fiction."

~(no)rave!

(by-the-by: regarding Asimov, his style has always left me cold. I am a Sir
Arthur C. Clarke guy, myself).

--- In scifino...@yahoogro  ups.com,
"marian_changling"  wrote:
>
> I am going to guess that she is in her thirties. 
> 
> I groaned when I heard that she was reading the book. Mainly because SF of
that era was strong on ideas and less so with characterization. I remember
loving the book but I don't know if I could read it now. Now I might sit
back and gripe that there were no real female characters. 
> 
> I'm concerned that she might think that is what SF is like.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In scifino...@yahoogro  ups.com,
"Martin Baxter"  wrote:
> >
> > Marian, the "Hyperion" series is about the closest I can think of in
comparison, in terms of scope and depth of event and characterization.
Having read both, I wouldn't dis-recommend "Hyperion". I would, however,
suggest "Foundation" first. Can I be rude and inquire as to your friend's
age? A few SF book recommends I've made recently have faltered because I've
advised books written during my generation to people of a later one, and
many of the cultural constructs are incomprehensible to them.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> -[ Received Mail Content ]--
> > 
> Subject : [scifinoir2] Foundation-like
> > 
> Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:27:06 -
> > 
> From : "marian_changling" 
> > 
> To : scifino...@yahoogro  ups.com
> > 
> > 
> I have a friend who started Asimov's "Foundation" series because of the
theme. Now she is faltering. I wouldn't be surprised if it is because of
1940's style of writing.
> > 
> > Anyone know a modern book with a similar theme? Has no one taken up the
mantle of psychohistory from Asimov? Wikipedia mentions a number of graphic
novels and "Hyperion". I never read that one; anyone know anything about it?
Anyone have another suggestion?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube. 
com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
> >
>

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like

[mcjennings124]

I'm 62!  I 'discovered'. Octavia Butler I my late 40s.  There ARE no limits 
except the ones we put on ourselves.  Go on.  Discover and enjoy!

And for me, it's still about books.  The pictures that the words create in my 
imagination are perfect for me.  They don't need translation ore interpretation.

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-Original Message-
From: "ravenadal" 

Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:47:35 
To: 
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like


Is it possible to become a sci-fi reader in one's thirties?  I have always 
considered SF a young person's game - if you don't get the bug early you seldom 
get it.  I wish I had a dollar for every time I have suggested a great book to 
someone post thirty to only be met with a "I don't read science fiction."

~(no)rave!

(by-the-by: regarding Asimov, his style has always left me cold.  I am a Sir 
Arthur C. Clarke guy, myself).

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "marian_changling"  wrote:
>
> I am going to guess that she is in her thirties.  
> 
> I groaned when I heard that she was reading the book.  Mainly because SF of 
> that era was strong on ideas and less so with characterization.  I remember 
> loving the book but I don't know if I could read it now.  Now I might sit 
> back and gripe that there were no real female characters.   
> 
> I'm concerned that she might think that is what SF is like.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baxter"  wrote:
> >
> > Marian, the "Hyperion" series is about the closest I can think of in 
> > comparison, in terms of scope and depth of event and characterization. 
> > Having read both, I wouldn't dis-recommend "Hyperion". I would, however, 
> > suggest "Foundation" first. Can I be rude and inquire as to your friend's 
> > age? A few SF book recommends I've made recently have faltered because I've 
> > advised books written during my generation to people of a later one, and 
> > many of the cultural constructs are incomprehensible to them.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> -[ Received Mail Content ]--
> > 
>  Subject : [scifinoir2] Foundation-like
> > 
>  Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:27:06 -
> > 
>  From : "marian_changling" 
> > 
>  To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > 
> I have a friend who started Asimov's "Foundation" series because of the 
> theme. Now she is faltering. I wouldn't be surprised if it is because of 
> 1940's style of writing.
> > 
> > Anyone know a modern book with a similar theme? Has no one taken up the 
> > mantle of psychohistory from Asimov? Wikipedia mentions a number of graphic 
> > novels and "Hyperion". I never read that one; anyone know anything about 
> > it? Anyone have another suggestion?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
> >
>

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like

[ravenadal]

Is it possible to become a sci-fi reader in one's thirties?  I have always 
considered SF a young person's game - if you don't get the bug early you seldom 
get it.  I wish I had a dollar for every time I have suggested a great book to 
someone post thirty to only be met with a "I don't read science fiction."

~(no)rave!

(by-the-by: regarding Asimov, his style has always left me cold.  I am a Sir 
Arthur C. Clarke guy, myself).

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "marian_changling"  wrote:
>
> I am going to guess that she is in her thirties.  
> 
> I groaned when I heard that she was reading the book.  Mainly because SF of 
> that era was strong on ideas and less so with characterization.  I remember 
> loving the book but I don't know if I could read it now.  Now I might sit 
> back and gripe that there were no real female characters.   
> 
> I'm concerned that she might think that is what SF is like.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baxter"  wrote:
> >
> > Marian, the "Hyperion" series is about the closest I can think of in 
> > comparison, in terms of scope and depth of event and characterization. 
> > Having read both, I wouldn't dis-recommend "Hyperion". I would, however, 
> > suggest "Foundation" first. Can I be rude and inquire as to your friend's 
> > age? A few SF book recommends I've made recently have faltered because I've 
> > advised books written during my generation to people of a later one, and 
> > many of the cultural constructs are incomprehensible to them.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> -[ Received Mail Content ]--
> > 
>  Subject : [scifinoir2] Foundation-like
> > 
>  Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:27:06 -
> > 
>  From : "marian_changling" 
> > 
>  To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > 
> I have a friend who started Asimov's "Foundation" series because of the 
> theme. Now she is faltering. I wouldn't be surprised if it is because of 
> 1940's style of writing.
> > 
> > Anyone know a modern book with a similar theme? Has no one taken up the 
> > mantle of psychohistory from Asimov? Wikipedia mentions a number of graphic 
> > novels and "Hyperion". I never read that one; anyone know anything about 
> > it? Anyone have another suggestion?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
> >
>

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!

[Keith Johnson]

Thanks. I noticed I kept confusing "Decatur" and "DeKalb". DeKalb's the county 
of course... 


- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Baxter"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:53:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month! 






So spake the Wise Man. 






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Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month! 
Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:31:41 + (UTC) 
>From : Keith Johnson  
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

To enter this localized discussion, I live in DeKalb County, near Northlake 
Mall, and thoroughly enjoy it. Decatur is a massive county, stretching from 
near downtown Atlanta and southwards, out to the east, and way up north. There 
are good and bad parts. I like this area, the Emory/LaVist/Toco Hills area, and 
the area of downtown Decatur near the courthouse and Square. For my money 
Decatur may be the best overall county in the area, in terms of diversity, 
roads, entertainment, etc. Living in DeKalb County, one is basically right next 
door to the museums, parks, and such of Fulton. And nothing is a fun as 
spending a Friday or Saturday night in the Square in downtown Decatur, eating 
at one of the many restaurants, window shopping, reading the Civil War 
monuments, or just sitting and watching the crowd. 

And Fulton would be next for me. Problems? Definitely, but again there are good 
areas that aren't as prone to violence. They can cost more, 'tis true, 
especially in the Buckhead/Lenox areas, which is why I prefer DeKalb. 


- Original Message - 
From: "Augustus Augustus" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:42:44 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month! 






understandable, but fulton is too violent right now. vernon forrest killed, and 
a city councilman robbed. pennington and franklin 2 give a press conference 
2day (because they have both been absent), that i REALLY want 2 see. heck, i 
might go down and watch this one in person. 



--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Martin Baxter wrote: 



From: Martin Baxter 
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month! 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:25 AM 





And I would've called a news conference to announce it ten seconds afterward. 

Myself, I'm looking at Fulton. Those two areas you mentioned are too rich for 
my blood. 






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Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month! 
Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:19:27 -0700 (PDT) 
>From : Augustus Augustus 
To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 

Martin, 

me too. looking at cobb or maybe gwinnett now. dekalb is killing me with this. 
but 4get paid suspension. i would have fired them as soon as the secret service 
called and told me about it. i would have called them in my office and asked 4 
their badges and guns. would have told them to kick rocks! 

Fate. 

--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Martin Baxter wrote: 

From: Martin Baxter 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month! 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:08 AM 












That's my county! 

(shaking head mournfully) 

Can I move now? 





-[ Received Mail Content ]-- 

Subject : [scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month! 

Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:34:04 -0700 (PDT) 

>From : Augustus Augustus 

To : Sci Fi 

Cc : Black SciFi 



after u read, ask yourself this.how stupid can they be? just proves that u 
can hire an idiot in ANY field! 



Fate. 



Officers Run Background Check On Obama; Placed On Leave 

Posted: 6:55 pm EDT July 29, 2009 

Updated: 7:22 pm EDT July 29, 2009 



DEKALB COUNTY, Ga. -- Two DeKalb County police officers have been placed on 
paid administrative leave after an investigation revealed they ran a background 
check on President Barack Obama. 



A representative for the DeKalb County CEO's office identified the officers as 
Ryan White and C.M. Route. 



Officials said Obama's name was typed into a computer inside a DeKalb County 
police car on July 20 and ran through the National Crime Information Center. 



The secret service was immediately notified and contacted the DeKalb County 
Police Department. 



A representative said both officers have been with the department less than 
five years. 



A representative said one of the officers denied involvement. 



An official investigation is being conducted by the DeKalb County Police 
Department's 

Internal Affairs division. 



It is unclear why the officers ran a check on the president. 

Copyright 2009 by WSBTV.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be 
published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. 










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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like

[Martin Baxter]

Need to think carefully over this one before I reply, Marian. It's been a long 
day on my end, and my stomach is growling. Early on the morrow, my word 'pon 't.





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 Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:32:03 -

 From : "marian_changling" 

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


I am going to guess that she is in her thirties. 

I groaned when I heard that she was reading the book. Mainly because SF of that 
era was strong on ideas and less so with characterization. I remember loving 
the book but I don't know if I could read it now. Now I might sit back and 
gripe that there were no real female characters. 

I'm concerned that she might think that is what SF is like.



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baxter"  wrote:
>
> Marian, the "Hyperion" series is about the closest I can think of in 
> comparison, in terms of scope and depth of event and characterization. Having 
> read both, I wouldn't dis-recommend "Hyperion". I would, however, suggest 
> "Foundation" first. Can I be rude and inquire as to your friend's age? A few 
> SF book recommends I've made recently have faltered because I've advised 
> books written during my generation to people of a later one, and many of the 
> cultural constructs are incomprehensible to them.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
-[ Received Mail Content ]--
> 
 Subject : [scifinoir2] Foundation-like
> 
 Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:27:06 -
> 
 From : "marian_changling" 
> 
 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
I have a friend who started Asimov's "Foundation" series because of the theme. 
Now she is faltering. I wouldn't be surprised if it is because of 1940's style 
of writing.
> 
> Anyone know a modern book with a similar theme? Has no one taken up the 
> mantle of psychohistory from Asimov? Wikipedia mentions a number of graphic 
> novels and "Hyperion". I never read that one; anyone know anything about it? 
> Anyone have another suggestion?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
>





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like

[marian_changling]

I am going to guess that she is in her thirties.  

I groaned when I heard that she was reading the book.  Mainly because SF of 
that era was strong on ideas and less so with characterization.  I remember 
loving the book but I don't know if I could read it now.  Now I might sit back 
and gripe that there were no real female characters.   

I'm concerned that she might think that is what SF is like.



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baxter"  wrote:
>
> Marian, the "Hyperion" series is about the closest I can think of in 
> comparison, in terms of scope and depth of event and characterization. Having 
> read both, I wouldn't dis-recommend "Hyperion". I would, however, suggest 
> "Foundation" first. Can I be rude and inquire as to your friend's age? A few 
> SF book recommends I've made recently have faltered because I've advised 
> books written during my generation to people of a later one, and many of the 
> cultural constructs are incomprehensible to them.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
-[ Received Mail Content ]--
> 
 Subject : [scifinoir2] Foundation-like
> 
 Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:27:06 -
> 
 From : "marian_changling" 
> 
 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
I have a friend who started Asimov's "Foundation" series because of the theme. 
Now she is faltering. I wouldn't be surprised if it is because of 1940's style 
of writing.
> 
> Anyone know a modern book with a similar theme? Has no one taken up the 
> mantle of psychohistory from Asimov? Wikipedia mentions a number of graphic 
> novels and "Hyperion". I never read that one; anyone know anything about it? 
> Anyone have another suggestion?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
>

[RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like

[Martin Baxter]

Marian, the "Hyperion" series is about the closest I can think of in 
comparison, in terms of scope and depth of event and characterization. Having 
read both, I wouldn't dis-recommend "Hyperion". I would, however, suggest 
"Foundation" first. Can I be rude and inquire as to your friend's age? A few SF 
book recommends I've made recently have faltered because I've advised books 
written during my generation to people of a later one, and many of the cultural 
constructs are incomprehensible to them.





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 Subject : [scifinoir2] Foundation-like

 Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:27:06 -

 From : "marian_changling" 

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


I have a friend who started Asimov's "Foundation" series because of the theme. 
Now she is faltering. I wouldn't be surprised if it is because of 1940's style 
of writing.

Anyone know a modern book with a similar theme? Has no one taken up the mantle 
of psychohistory from Asimov? Wikipedia mentions a number of graphic novels and 
"Hyperion". I never read that one; anyone know anything about it? Anyone have 
another suggestion?




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

[scifinoir2] Foundation-like

[marian_changling]

I have a friend who started Asimov's "Foundation" series because of the theme.  
Now she is faltering.  I wouldn't be surprised if it is because of 1940's style 
of writing.

Anyone know a modern book with a similar theme?  Has no one taken up the mantle 
of psychohistory from Asimov?  Wikipedia mentions a number of graphic novels 
and "Hyperion".  I never read that one; anyone know anything about it?  Anyone 
have another suggestion?

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!

[Martin Baxter]

So spake the Wise Man.





-[ Received Mail Content ]--

 Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!

 Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:31:41 + (UTC)

 From : Keith Johnson 

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


To enter this localized discussion, I live in DeKalb County, near Northlake 
Mall, and thoroughly enjoy it. Decatur is a massive county, stretching from 
near downtown Atlanta and southwards, out to the east, and way up north. There 
are good and bad parts. I like this area, the Emory/LaVist/Toco Hills area, and 
the area of downtown Decatur near the courthouse and Square. For my money 
Decatur may be the best overall county in the area, in terms of diversity, 
roads, entertainment, etc. Living in DeKalb County, one is basically right next 
door to the museums, parks, and such of Fulton. And nothing is a fun as 
spending a Friday or Saturday night in the Square in downtown Decatur, eating 
at one of the many restaurants, window shopping, reading the Civil War 
monuments, or just sitting and watching the crowd. 

And Fulton would be next for me. Problems? Definitely, but again there are good 
areas that aren't as prone to violence. They can cost more, 'tis true, 
especially in the Buckhead/Lenox areas, which is why I prefer DeKalb. 


- Original Message - 
From: "Augustus Augustus"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:42:44 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month! 






understandable, but fulton is too violent right now. vernon forrest killed, and 
a city councilman robbed. pennington and franklin 2 give a press conference 
2day (because they have both been absent), that i REALLY want 2 see. heck, i 
might go down and watch this one in person. 



--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Martin Baxter  wrote: 



From: Martin Baxter  
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month! 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:25 AM 





And I would've called a news conference to announce it ten seconds 
afterward. 

Myself, I'm looking at Fulton. Those two areas you mentioned are too rich for 
my blood. 






-[ Received Mail Content ]-- 
Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month! 
Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:19:27 -0700 (PDT) 
>From : Augustus Augustus  
To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 

Martin, 

me too. looking at cobb or maybe gwinnett now. dekalb is killing me with this. 
but 4get paid suspension. i would have fired them as soon as the secret service 
called and told me about it. i would have called them in my office and asked 4 
their badges and guns. would have told them to kick rocks! 

Fate. 

--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Martin Baxter wrote: 

From: Martin Baxter 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month! 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:08 AM 












That's my county! 

(shaking head mournfully) 

Can I move now? 





-[ Received Mail Content ]-- 

Subject : [scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month! 

Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:34:04 -0700 (PDT) 

>From : Augustus Augustus 

To : Sci Fi 

Cc : Black SciFi 



after u read, ask yourself this.how stupid can they be? just proves that u 
can hire an idiot in ANY field! 



Fate. 



Officers Run Background Check On Obama; Placed On Leave 

Posted: 6:55 pm EDT July 29, 2009 

Updated: 7:22 pm EDT July 29, 2009 



DEKALB COUNTY, Ga. -- Two DeKalb County police officers have been placed on 
paid administrative leave after an investigation revealed they ran a background 
check on President Barack Obama. 



A representative for the DeKalb County CEO's office identified the officers as 
Ryan White and C.M. Route. 



Officials said Obama's name was typed into a computer inside a DeKalb County 
police car on July 20 and ran through the National Crime Information Center. 



The secret service was immediately notified and contacted the DeKalb County 
Police Department. 



A representative said both officers have been with the department less than 
five years. 



A representative said one of the officers denied involvement. 



An official investigation is being conducted by the DeKalb County Police 
Department's 

Internal Affairs division. 



It is unclear why the officers ran a check on the president. 

Copyright 2009 by WSBTV.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be 
published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. 










http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds 































http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds 

 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!

[Keith Johnson]

To enter this localized discussion, I live in DeKalb County, near Northlake 
Mall, and thoroughly enjoy it. Decatur is a massive county, stretching from 
near downtown Atlanta and southwards, out to the east, and way up north. There 
are good and bad parts. I like this area, the Emory/LaVist/Toco Hills area, and 
the area of downtown Decatur near the courthouse and Square. For my money 
Decatur may be the best overall county in the area, in terms of diversity, 
roads, entertainment, etc. Living in DeKalb County, one is basically right next 
door to the museums, parks, and such of Fulton. And nothing is a fun as 
spending a Friday or Saturday night in the Square in downtown Decatur, eating 
at one of the many restaurants, window shopping, reading the Civil War 
monuments, or just sitting and watching the crowd. 

And Fulton would be next for me. Problems? Definitely, but again there are good 
areas that aren't as prone to violence. They can cost more, 'tis true, 
especially in the Buckhead/Lenox areas, which is why I prefer DeKalb. 


- Original Message - 
From: "Augustus Augustus"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:42:44 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month! 






understandable, but fulton is too violent right now. vernon forrest killed, and 
a city councilman robbed. pennington and franklin 2 give a press conference 
2day (because they have both been absent), that i REALLY want 2 see. heck, i 
might go down and watch this one in person. 



--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Martin Baxter  wrote: 



From: Martin Baxter  
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month! 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:25 AM 





And I would've called a news conference to announce it ten seconds 
afterward. 

Myself, I'm looking at Fulton. Those two areas you mentioned are too rich for 
my blood. 






-[ Received Mail Content ]-- 
Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month! 
Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:19:27 -0700 (PDT) 
>From : Augustus Augustus  
To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 

Martin, 

me too. looking at cobb or maybe gwinnett now. dekalb is killing me with this. 
but 4get paid suspension. i would have fired them as soon as the secret service 
called and told me about it. i would have called them in my office and asked 4 
their badges and guns. would have told them to kick rocks! 

Fate. 

--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Martin Baxter wrote: 

From: Martin Baxter 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month! 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:08 AM 












That's my county! 

(shaking head mournfully) 

Can I move now? 





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Subject : [scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month! 

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Cc : Black SciFi 



after u read, ask yourself this.how stupid can they be? just proves that u 
can hire an idiot in ANY field! 



Fate. 



Officers Run Background Check On Obama; Placed On Leave 

Posted: 6:55 pm EDT July 29, 2009 

Updated: 7:22 pm EDT July 29, 2009 



DEKALB COUNTY, Ga. -- Two DeKalb County police officers have been placed on 
paid administrative leave after an investigation revealed they ran a background 
check on President Barack Obama. 



A representative for the DeKalb County CEO's office identified the officers as 
Ryan White and C.M. Route. 



Officials said Obama's name was typed into a computer inside a DeKalb County 
police car on July 20 and ran through the National Crime Information Center. 



The secret service was immediately notified and contacted the DeKalb County 
Police Department. 



A representative said both officers have been with the department less than 
five years. 



A representative said one of the officers denied involvement. 



An official investigation is being conducted by the DeKalb County Police 
Department's 

Internal Affairs division. 



It is unclear why the officers ran a check on the president. 

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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!

[Martin Baxter]

Wish I could as well, Fate, but I've got family coming in from Virginia 
tomorrow, and a few more preparations to make before they arrive.





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understandable, but fulton is too violent right now.  vernon forrest killed, 
and a city councilman robbed.  pennington and franklin 2 give a press 
conference 2day (because they have both been absent), that i REALLY want 2 see. 
 heck, i might go down and watch this one in person.



--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Martin Baxter  wrote:

From: Martin Baxter 
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:25 AM






 




 
 And I would've called a news conference to announce it ten seconds afterward.

Myself, I'm looking at Fulton. Those two areas you mentioned are too rich for 
my blood.





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 Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:19:27 -0700 (PDT)

 From : Augustus Augustus 

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Martin, 



me too.  looking at cobb or maybe gwinnett now.  dekalb is killing me with 
this.  but 4get paid suspension.  i would have fired them as soon as the secret 
service called and told me about it.  i would have called them in my office and 
asked 4 their badges and guns.  would have told them to kick rocks!



Fate.



--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Martin Baxter wrote:



From: Martin Baxter 

Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!

To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:08 AM













 









 

 That's my county!



(shaking head mournfully)



Can I move now?











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 Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:34:04 -0700 (PDT)



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 To : Sci Fi 



 Cc : Black SciFi 







after u read, ask yourself this.how stupid can they be?  just proves that u 
can hire an idiot in ANY field!







Fate.







Officers Run Background Check On Obama; Placed On Leave



Posted: 6:55 pm EDT July 29, 2009



Updated: 7:22 pm EDT July 29, 2009







DEKALB COUNTY, Ga. -- Two DeKalb County police officers have been placed on 
paid administrative leave after an investigation revealed they ran a background 
check on President Barack Obama.







A representative for the DeKalb County CEO's office identified the officers as 
Ryan White and C.M. Route.







Officials said Obama's name was typed into a computer inside a DeKalb County 
police car on July 20 and ran through the National Crime Information Center.







The secret service was immediately notified and contacted the DeKalb County 
Police Department.







A representative said both officers have been with the department less than 
five years.







A representative said one of the officers denied involvement.







An official investigation is being conducted by the DeKalb County Police 
Department's



 Internal Affairs division.







It is unclear why the officers ran a check on the president. 



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A lawyer who moments earlier had been complaining to friends about police
overreaction in the arrest of Harvard Professor Henry Louis Gates Jr., got a
taste of the Gates treatment himself after loudly chanting "I hate the
police" near a traffic stop in Northwest Washington, D.C.

Pepin Tuma, 33, was walking with two friends along Washington's hip U Street
corridor around midnight Saturday, complaining about how Gates had been
rousted from his home for not showing a proper amount of deference to a cop.
"We'd been talking about it all day," said Tuma. "It seems like police have
a tendency to act overly aggressively when they're being pushed around,"
Tuma recalled saying.

Then the group noticed five or six police cruisers surrounding two cars in
an apparent traffic stop on the other side of the street. It seemed to Tuma
that was more cops than necessary.

"That's why I hate the police," Tuma said. He told the Huffington Post that
in a loud sing-song voice, he then chanted, "I hate the police, I hate the
police." 

One officer reacted strongly to Tuma's song. "Hey! Hey! Who do you think
you're talking to?" Tuma recalled the officer shouting as he strode across
an intersection to where Tuma was standing. "Who do you think you are to
think you can talk to a police officer like that?" the police officer said,
according to Luke Platzer, 30, one of Tuma's companions.

Tuma said he responded, "It is not illegal to say I hate the police. It's
not illegal to express my opinion walking down the street."

According to Tuma and Platzer, the officer pushed Tuma against an electric
utility box, continuing to ask who he thought he was and to say he couldn't
talk to police like that.

"I didn't curse," Tuma said. "I asked, am I being arrested? Why am I a being
arrested?"

Story continues below ht

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!

[Augustus Augustus]

understandable, but fulton is too violent right now.  vernon forrest killed, 
and a city councilman robbed.  pennington and franklin 2 give a press 
conference 2day (because they have both been absent), that i REALLY want 2 
see.  heck, i might go down and watch this one in person.



--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Martin Baxter  wrote:

From: Martin Baxter 
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:25 AM






 





 And I would've called a news conference to announce it ten 
seconds afterward.

Myself, I'm looking at Fulton. Those two areas you mentioned are too rich for 
my blood.





-[ Received Mail Content ]--

 Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!

 Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:19:27 -0700 (PDT)

 From : Augustus Augustus 

 To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com



Martin, 



me too.  looking at cobb or maybe gwinnett now.  dekalb is killing me with 
this.  but 4get paid suspension.  i would have fired them as soon as the secret 
service called and told me about it.  i would have called them in my office and 
asked 4 their badges and guns.  would have told them to kick rocks!



Fate.



--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Martin Baxter  wrote:



From: Martin Baxter 

Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!

To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:08 AM













 











 That's my county!



(shaking head mournfully)



Can I move now?











-[ Received Mail Content ]--



 Subject : [scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!



 Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:34:04 -0700 (PDT)



 From : Augustus Augustus 



 To : Sci Fi 



 Cc : Black SciFi 







after u read, ask yourself this.how stupid can they be?  just proves that u 
can hire an idiot in ANY field!







Fate.







Officers Run Background Check On Obama; Placed On Leave



Posted: 6:55 pm EDT July 29, 2009



Updated: 7:22 pm EDT July 29, 2009







DEKALB COUNTY, Ga. -- Two DeKalb County police officers have been placed on 
paid administrative leave after an investigation revealed they ran a background 
check on President Barack Obama.







A representative for the DeKalb County CEO's office identified the officers as 
Ryan White and C.M. Route.







Officials said Obama's name was typed into a computer inside a DeKalb County 
police car on July 20 and ran through the National Crime Information Center.







The secret service was immediately notified and contacted the DeKalb County 
Police Department.







A representative said both officers have been with the department less than 
five years.







A representative said one of the officers denied involvement.







An official investigation is being conducted by the DeKalb County Police 
Department's



 Internal Affairs division.







It is unclear why the officers ran a check on the president. 



Copyright 2009 by WSBTV.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be 
published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.















  





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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!

[Martin Baxter]

And I would've called a news conference to announce it ten seconds afterward.

Myself, I'm looking at Fulton. Those two areas you mentioned are too rich for 
my blood.





-[ Received Mail Content ]--

 Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!

 Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:19:27 -0700 (PDT)

 From : Augustus Augustus 

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


Martin, 

me too.  looking at cobb or maybe gwinnett now.  dekalb is killing me with 
this.  but 4get paid suspension.  i would have fired them as soon as the secret 
service called and told me about it.  i would have called them in my office and 
asked 4 their badges and guns.  would have told them to kick rocks!

Fate.

--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Martin Baxter  wrote:

From: Martin Baxter 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:08 AM






 




 
 That's my county!

(shaking head mournfully)

Can I move now?





-[ Received Mail Content ]--

 Subject : [scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!

 Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:34:04 -0700 (PDT)

 From : Augustus Augustus 

 To : Sci Fi 

 Cc : Black SciFi 



after u read, ask yourself this.how stupid can they be?  just proves that u 
can hire an idiot in ANY field!



Fate.



Officers Run Background Check On Obama; Placed On Leave

Posted: 6:55 pm EDT July 29, 2009

Updated: 7:22 pm EDT July 29, 2009



DEKALB COUNTY, Ga. -- Two DeKalb County police officers have been placed on 
paid administrative leave after an investigation revealed they ran a background 
check on President Barack Obama.



A representative for the DeKalb County CEO's office identified the officers as 
Ryan White and C.M. Route.



Officials said Obama's name was typed into a computer inside a DeKalb County 
police car on July 20 and ran through the National Crime Information Center.



The secret service was immediately notified and contacted the DeKalb County 
Police Department.



A representative said both officers have been with the department less than 
five years.



A representative said one of the officers denied involvement.



An official investigation is being conducted by the DeKalb County Police 
Department's

 Internal Affairs division.



It is unclear why the officers ran a check on the president. 

Copyright 2009 by WSBTV.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be 
published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.







 


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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!

[Augustus Augustus]

Martin, 

me too.  looking at cobb or maybe gwinnett now.  dekalb is killing me with 
this.  but 4get paid suspension.  i would have fired them as soon as the secret 
service called and told me about it.  i would have called them in my office and 
asked 4 their badges and guns.  would have told them to kick rocks!

Fate.

--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Martin Baxter  wrote:

From: Martin Baxter 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:08 AM






 





 That's my county!

(shaking head mournfully)

Can I move now?





-[ Received Mail Content ]--

 Subject : [scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!

 Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:34:04 -0700 (PDT)

 From : Augustus Augustus 

 To : Sci Fi 

 Cc : Black SciFi 



after u read, ask yourself this.how stupid can they be?  just proves that u 
can hire an idiot in ANY field!



Fate.



Officers Run Background Check On Obama; Placed On Leave

Posted: 6:55 pm EDT July 29, 2009

Updated: 7:22 pm EDT July 29, 2009



DEKALB COUNTY, Ga. -- Two DeKalb County police officers have been placed on 
paid administrative leave after an investigation revealed they ran a background 
check on President Barack Obama.



A representative for the DeKalb County CEO's office identified the officers as 
Ryan White and C.M. Route.



Officials said Obama's name was typed into a computer inside a DeKalb County 
police car on July 20 and ran through the National Crime Information Center.



The secret service was immediately notified and contacted the DeKalb County 
Police Department.



A representative said both officers have been with the department less than 
five years.



A representative said one of the officers denied involvement.



An official investigation is being conducted by the DeKalb County Police 
Department's

 Internal Affairs division.



It is unclear why the officers ran a check on the president. 

Copyright 2009 by WSBTV.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be 
published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.







  


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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: [Black SciFi Horror Fantasy Club] Re: CNN spreading Obama conspiracy theories

[Martin Baxter]

Exactly, Gerald. Several years ago, a guy I knew in one of my forums, himself 
fairly conservative, reffered to such people, regardless of political 
affiliation, as "sheeple". The name sticks with me to this day.





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 Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: [Black SciFi Horror Fantasy Club] Re: CNN 
spreading Obama conspiracy theories

 Date : Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:41:41 +

 From : efhay...@yahoo.com

 To : "SciFiNoir2 mailing list" 


What kills me is people take what these guys say as fact no matter the 
delivery. I was in Indiana yesterday on business and the fact that Beck was 
there doing a "Rally for America" was touted. I guess I let my facial 
expression slip because I was asked if liked Mr. Beck.

I said no and left it at that.

Gerald


Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Martin Baxter" 

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:34:12 
To: 
Cc: SciFi horror fantasy mailing list; ; ; ; ; SciFiNoir2 mailing list
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: [Black SciFi Horror Fantasy Club] Re: CNN 
spreading Obama conspiracy theories


Both of those clowns are scary because of the sh*t they trumpet all over the 
nation's carpets, but Dobbs, IMO, is a step worse, because he's *sane*. He 
monotones his bile, whereas Beck screams his. People are more apt to laugh at 
Beck, while they'll nod and say, "You know, he might have a point..." at Dobbs' 
words.




-[ Received Mail Content ]--
 Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: [Black SciFi Horror Fantasy Club] Re: CNN spreading 
Obama conspiracy theories
 Date : Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:16:55 +
 From : efhay...@yahoo.com
 To : "SciFi horror fantasy mailing list" ,gregorytow...@yahoo.com
 Cc : 
april_hay...@bellsouth.net,mmean...@yahoo.com,mmean...@gmail.com,"SciFiNoir2 
mailing list" 

The Lou Dobbs problem on CNN pales in comparison to Glenn Beck on Fox News. In 
the past two weeks, Beck has claimed that (1) Obama is trying to institute some 
back door reparations program with the programs he's trying to implement and 
(2) flat out called Obama a racist because of response to the Gates issue.

Gerald 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Gregory Townes 

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:20:56 
To: 
Cc: ; ; ; Cinthai Townes; ; vincent townes; Michelle Townes; junior white
Subject: [Black SciFi Horror Fantasy Club] Re: CNN spreading Obama conspiracy 
theories














Hi, 
 CNN host Lou Dobbs is promoting debunked "birther" conspiracy 
theories by asserting that Obama needs to "produce a birth 
certificate"--even though he already has. 
I signed a petition with MoveOn and Media Matters calling on CNN to 
address their Lou Dobbs problem. Can you join me at the link below? 
http://civ.moveon.org/stopdobbs/?r_by=16683-10341083-FxW_Npx&rc=mailto 
Thanks! 
References 
Visible links 
. http://civ.moveon.org/stopdobbs/?r_by=16683-10341083-FxW_Npx&rc=mailto 
 


 



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[RE][scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!

[Martin Baxter]

That's my county!

(shaking head mournfully)

Can I move now?





-[ Received Mail Content ]--

 Subject : [scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!

 Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:34:04 -0700 (PDT)

 From : Augustus Augustus 

 To : Sci Fi 

 Cc : Black SciFi 


after u read, ask yourself this.how stupid can they be?  just proves that u 
can hire an idiot in ANY field!

Fate.

Officers Run Background Check On Obama; Placed On Leave
Posted: 6:55 pm EDT July 29, 2009
Updated: 7:22 pm EDT July 29, 2009

DEKALB COUNTY, Ga. -- Two DeKalb County police officers have been placed on 
paid administrative leave after an investigation revealed they ran a background 
check on President Barack Obama.

A representative for the DeKalb County CEO's office identified the officers as 
Ryan White and C.M. Route.

Officials said Obama's name was typed into a computer inside a DeKalb County 
police car on July 20 and ran through the National Crime Information Center.

The secret service was immediately notified and contacted the DeKalb County 
Police Department.

A representative said both officers have been with the department less than 
five years.

A representative said one of the officers denied involvement.

An official investigation is being conducted by the DeKalb County Police 
Department's
 Internal Affairs division.

It is unclear why the officers ran a check on the president. 
Copyright 2009 by WSBTV.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be 
published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.



 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

[scifinoir2] ...and speaking of idiots of the month!

[Augustus Augustus]

after u read, ask yourself this.how stupid can they be?  just proves that u 
can hire an idiot in ANY field!

Fate.

Officers Run Background Check On Obama; Placed On Leave
Posted: 6:55 pm EDT July 29, 2009
Updated: 7:22 pm EDT July 29, 2009

DEKALB COUNTY, Ga. -- Two DeKalb County police officers have been placed on 
paid administrative leave after an investigation revealed they ran a background 
check on President Barack Obama.

A representative for the DeKalb County CEO's office identified the officers as 
Ryan White and C.M. Route.

Officials said Obama's name was typed into a computer inside a DeKalb County 
police car on July 20 and ran through the National Crime Information Center.

The secret service was immediately notified and contacted the DeKalb County 
Police Department.

A representative said both officers have been with the department less than 
five years.

A representative said one of the officers denied involvement.

An official investigation is being conducted by the DeKalb County Police 
Department's
 Internal Affairs division.

It is unclear why the officers ran a check on the president. 
Copyright 2009 by WSBTV.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be 
published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.



  

[scifinoir2] Fw: World Science: ''Dream therapy'' set for a comeback?

[Amy Harlib]

ahar...@earthlink.net
Cool science stuff.

- Original Message - 
From: World Science 
To: emailn...@world-science.net 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:30 AM
Subject: World Science: ''Dream therapy'' set for a comeback?


* "Dream therapy" set for a comeback?:
Similarities in brain activity between a special
dreaming state and some forms of mental derangement
are drawing interest from researchers.

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090728_dream


* Reflection is key to jewel beetle colors, scientists 
say:
New studies could lead to applications including car
paints that reflect different colors from different angles.

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090725_beetles


* A new way to fix a broken heart?:
Researchers have reportedly devised a method to to
coax mature heart muscle cells into regenerating.

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090724_nrg1


* Astronomers: impact gives Jupiter bruise as 
wide as Pacific:
Something apparently slammed into the giant planet
in the last few days, scientists say.

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090722_jupiter


* Origin of raindrop size "revealed":
The sizes of raindrops result from the breakup of
larger droplets, new high-speed films indicate.

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090720_raindrops


* Fossil poop balls reveal secrets of lost 
world:
A study has revealed an intricate network of
long-ago interactions in "mega-dung" from giant 
mammals.

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090718_dungbeetle


* Ocean current changes predicted to be 
gradual:
Scientists have released a rare bit of hopeful news
linked to global warming.

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090718_currents.htm


* Cats are crafty manipulators, study finds:
Anyone who has had cats knows how hard it can be to
get them to do anything they don't want to do.

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090713_cats.htm


* %#$!? Swearing may actually reduce pain:
Unleashing verbal bombs might not show great
self-control, but it sure seems to help people take
pain better, scientists have found.

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090711_swearing








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