Re: [scifinoir2] Buddha Call...too funny
That's two of us... From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:21:37 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Buddha Call...too funny I didn't get anything... ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: This is hilarious! Dr. Fate DIVnbsp; /DIV
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
I have to agree with you on that on...However, to be fair, I saw the sense in putting the females into the male uniforms...The one thing that did make sense on that show...(but the uniforms the WM's were wearing when I left were rather flattering to their form!) From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:47:04 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Pal, that's a simple lack of respect for the uniform on H'Wood's part. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo..com Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:53:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a grunt...and a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's...Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled... _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart To : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise , do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters,
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now
Yup, but I won't tell... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:45:38 AM Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Is the sigh of contentment that just rolled from my lips wrong? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:56:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now I'll just settle for the knit skirt every week, thank you... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:25:43 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ohyeaohyeaohyeaohye a... shame they couldn't figure out a way to get her on the ship. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:15:54 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups..com P.S. I almost forgot...Baby Gurl wifey is Phoyne Okay...my son is kicking me off his comp for attempting ghetto _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:05:54 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now I'm still wondering if the leadenness isn't by design. The flashbacks do put a little pep in the proceedings, though not much. The first few reviews I read on this from other viewers marked it as 'Grey's Anatomy' in Space. I'm seeing more 'Lost' in Space with every viewing. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:58 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Leaden...That' s the word! _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups..com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? Don't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then
Re: [scifinoir2] Defying gravity
She threw up in the flashback 5 or 6 times. They nicknamed her Lady Puke or something like that. She would have never made it in reality. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:25 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.comwrote: Well, no matter what they called it, it sounded like space sickness to me...although they have been hinting around that the entire crew had been chosen by some kind of entity and it was causing them to undergo changes; physically and mentally from what I can tell... -- *From:* Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2009 8:13:16 PM *Subject:* [scifinoir2] Defying gravity Ok, one question that has been bothering me since the show started is WHY WOULD YOU HAVE A PERSON THAT HAS A NERVOUS VOMITING PROBLEM GO ON A LONG TERM SPACE MISSION? -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers
I agree. That scene in Blade Runner is used in one of the film classes that I took. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:50 AM, B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: That's actually a great list. There is one omission I found striking and that is Roy Batty's speech on the rooftop in Blade Runner. That is classic. The Serenity choice is a great one. I remember being stunned into silence and hearing audible gasps when the famous line I am a leaf on the wind is said that last time. I'm glad they gave B5 some love too. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@... wrote: As touching as Doomsday was, it pales in comparison with the chips speech at the end of season 1 for me. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@...wrote: Grab Kleenex, folks... http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=sf_s_26_greatest_tearjerkers If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009 Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
Does Supertrain and the Big Bus qualify as sci-fi? --- On Thu, 8/20/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 1:56 AM Do what da script say do, Hey... From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:43:59 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS hollywood baby, hollywood. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 10:31 AM I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo..com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a grunt...and a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled . _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
George, I'm thinking yes, for some reason. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:40:05 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Does Supertrain and the Big Bus qualify as sci-fi? --- On Thu, 8/20/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 1:56 AM Do what da script say do, Hey... From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:43:59 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS hollywood baby, hollywood. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 10:31 AM I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo..com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a grunt...and a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST
RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now
;-D If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:13:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Yup, but I won't tell... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:45:38 AM Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Is the sigh of contentment that just rolled from my lips wrong? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:56:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now I'll just settle for the knit skirt every week, thank you... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:25:43 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ohyeaohyeaohyeaohye a... shame they couldn't figure out a way to get her on the ship. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:15:54 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com P.S. I almost forgot...Baby Gurl wifey is Phoyne Okay...my son is kicking me off his comp for attempting ghetto _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:05:54 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now I'm still wondering if the leadenness isn't by design. The flashbacks do put a little pep in the proceedings, though not much. The first few reviews I read on this from other viewers marked it as 'Grey's Anatomy' in Space. I'm seeing more 'Lost' in Space with every viewing. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:58 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Leaden...That' s the word! _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups..com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times.. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
I'm going to be even nicer to you in the future... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:03:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS But that is the way it works in the Corps...everyone is a basic grunt rifleman. Behold, I am probably the only trombone player you know who could take you out at 500 meters with a service rifle! (M-16A1 A2) From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a gruntand a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers
I hear you, pal. My own moment-of-tears with the written word came when I first read Katherine Kurtz's Camber the Heretic, a scene when a group of psi-gifted humanoids where being massacred by humans. One of the humanoids (Deryni, their race was called), Rhys, a doctor with the power to heal, was trying to escape when he saw injured humans nearby. Being a doctor, he followed the Hippocratic and stopped to begin healing the person. As he was doing so, he was hit from behind, a blow that stoved in his head, destroying the part of his brain that enabled him to heal. His wife Evaine learned this as she went into his mind, trying to access his power to heal him. All the while, he was still conscious, feeling himself die, saying his goodbyes to his friends telepathically... marked the first and only time I've ever thrown a book. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:20:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers Sorry, but the biggest tearjerking moment for me was not in a movie...It was from Octavia Butler's Wild Seed, when Anyanwu came to the conclusion that she was never going to change or escape from Doro, so she decided to just commit suicide (basically let herself die as she was immortal). Doro, realizing that Anyanwu was the only constant in his life, breaks down and pleads with her not to do it because he could not bare life without her (gotta read the bookI'm not good at explanations...in fact, I suck at it...). Until I read that book, I had never shed a tear over the written word... From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:07:35 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers The Blade Runner scene is poignant and memorable, can't believe I forgot that one. But, is it really a tearjerker ? It makes me sad, but not misty-eyed.. . - Original Message - From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:50:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers That's actually a great list. There is one omission I found striking and that is Roy Batty's speech on the rooftop in Blade Runner. That is classic. The Serenity choice is a great one. I remember being stunned into silence and hearing audible gasps when the famous line I am a leaf on the wind is said that last time. I'm glad they gave B5 some love too. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ ... wrote: As touching as Doomsday was, it pales in comparison with the chips speech at the end of season 1 for me. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ...wrote: Grab Kleenex, folks... http://www.sfx. co.uk/page/ sfx?entry= sf_s_26_greatest _tearjerkers If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik - - Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now.http://windowslive. com/online/ hotmail?ocid= PID23391: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HYGN_ faster:082009 _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Best of Science Fiction's Oppressed Species
If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:10:03 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Best of Science Fiction's Oppressed Species And don't forget when G'Kar agrees to cry out when the Emperor has him whipped, a cry so full of anguish, i still remember it. Giving even the appearance of defeat--as part of a plan to help Lando dethrone the Emperor--was still almost more than G'Kar could bear. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:20:55 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Best of Science Fiction's Oppressed Species Reminds me that this is one they missed for that Tearjerker thread I posted, the Centauri siege/invasion of the Narn homeworld, when G'Kar surrendered himself and they trotted him out in chains, still walking with a more noble gait that Emperor Cartaggia... Martin (so happy he bought four boxes of Kleenex yesterday) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:17:03 -0700 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Best of Science Fiction's Oppressed Species i totally agree, and i did so like G'Kar. he was oh so noble! --- On Wed, 8/19/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Best of Science Fiction's Oppressed Species To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 12:10 PM They should definitely include Narn -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of B. Smith Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:08 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: The Best of Science Fiction's Oppressed Species How about the Narn from B5? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: They forgot Robotech. 2009/8/19 Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... The Best of Science Fiction's Oppressed Specieshttp://io9.com/5340280/the-best-of-science-fictions-oppressed-specie s By Lauren Davis http://io9.com/people/Lauren_Davis/posts/, 3:30 PMhttp://io9.com/5340280/the-best-of-science-fictions-oppressed-specieson Tue Aug 18 2009, [image: http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/8/2009/08/thumb160x_District9Poster_00 0.jpg] *District 9 http://io9.com/tag/district-9/*'s crustacean aliens may be the first extraterrestrials to experience South Africa's apartheid, but they're hardly the first species to feel the sting of oppression. We list science fiction's other downtrodden, enslaved, and dehumanized (so to speak) species. [image: http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/08/Alien_Nation_01.jpg]*The Newcomers (Alien Nation http://io9.com/tag/alien-nation/):* *District 9*'s aliens are most often compared to the Tenctonese, better known as the Newcomers. Like the *D9* aliens, the Newcomers just can't catch a break. After fleeing from slavery on their own planet, a quarter of a million Newcomers land in Los Angeles to find a sometimes less than welcoming human population. Aside from the unfortunate names some INS officials assign the new arrivals (in the original movie, Matt Sykes' partner was named Sam Francisco), there are anti-alien Purists who think the Tenctonese should have stayed on Tencton, and plenty of murder, both from humans looking to eradicated the Newcomers and from those who would harvest their life-extending glands. [image: http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/8/2009/08/thumb160x_Jem_Hadar.jpg]*The Citizens of the Dominion (Star Trek http://io9.com/tag/star-trek/: Deep Space Nine):* With all of its explorations of race and morality, the *Star Trek* universe has had its fair share of oppressed species: the Troglyte miners who served their fellow Ardanans, the Romulans' Reman slaves, the Orion women (who only appear to be slaves), the Tosk who serve as prey for the Hunters' sport, the Bajorans who endure 50 years of Cardassian occupation, and, of course, anyone who encounters the Borg. But the Founders of the Dominion have a special talent for oppression, from engineering the supersoldier Jem'Hadar with an innate addiction to the drug ketracel white to infecting the Trevean with a congenital blight. Even the Vorta, who serve as the Dominion's middle managers, are mere slaves to the Founders, and
RE: [scifinoir2] Defying gravity
Mr Worf, I think they explained her vomiting as an aftereffect of the anti-gravity system they were using. While we're here, I want to know how the ship's doctor got onboard, with the pre-existing PTSD he's got? When the lights started blinking out in the last ep, he went crazy, huddling up on the floor, flashing back to what was apparently the last war humanity had fought, being trapped in rubble and unable to get to his family. That's something that should've been looked at, long and hard. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:13:16 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] Defying gravity Ok, one question that has been bothering me since the show started is WHY WOULD YOU HAVE A PERSON THAT HAS A NERVOUS VOMITING PROBLEM GO ON A LONG TERM SPACE MISSION? -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery
RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Weapons at Obama rally
(standing ovation) When I first saw this, I thought only of all of the reports of threats against President Obama. Just scary. The comments on the vid of this on YouTube are running mostly PRO-this guy. I take that to be all of the wounded neocons coming out of their holes, but still a scary thing. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:31:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Weapons at Obama rally That is just so wrong. Our government needs to make a statement about this kind of behavior no matter what their point of view is that asinine stuff like this should never be tolerated. Period. There are certain things that shouldn't be done. I would think that bringing a gun to a political rally should be on the top 5. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Mr Worf, I get the feeling that he won't even be questioned. Am I the only person thinking that the Secret Service needs to be replaced in a hurry? I've lost track of the number of threats against President Obama this year. On the Young Turks web site, they once named them off, at least six. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:19:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Weapons at Obama rally So I hope they throw his dumb ass in jail for a good long time. Just for Gp. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: This was apparently a planned publicity stunt by a conservative radio host... soemwhere. Can't remember the place. Worst thing about this? It *would* have to be a brother packing the AR-15... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/18/right-wing-radio-host-sta_n_262559.html If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery
[scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers
It fits the definition for me. Roy had done everything he could to get more life but that was denied him. When he had Deckard at his mercy he spared him and allowed him to do something that he could not do and that is to go on living. He actually showed empathy and mercy and was at the moment more human than the man hunting him. The speech is just the icing on the cake. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die. That gets me evey time I see the movie. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: The Blade Runner scene is poignant and memorable, can't believe I forgot that one. But, is it really a tearjerker? It makes me sad, but not misty-eyed... - Original Message - From: B. Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:50:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers That's actually a great list. There is one omission I found striking and that is Roy Batty's speech on the rooftop in Blade Runner. That is classic. The Serenity choice is a great one. I remember being stunned into silence and hearing audible gasps when the famous line I am a leaf on the wind is said that last time. I'm glad they gave B5 some love too. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ wrote: As touching as Doomsday was, it pales in comparison with the chips speech at the end of season 1 for me. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@wrote: Grab Kleenex, folks... http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=sf_s_26_greatest_tearjerkers If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009
[scifinoir2] Re: OT: Weapons at Obama rally
I wonder what would have happened if the New Black Panther Party, PIP, AIM or any armed leftist group would have been within a mile of Dubya exercising their rights to openly bear arms? During the last administration people were jailed for wearing shirts or having signs that were politcally abrasive to the people in power and FOX and the like thought it was great. How times have changed. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: (standing ovation) When I first saw this, I thought only of all of the reports of threats against President Obama. Just scary. The comments on the vid of this on YouTube are running mostly PRO-this guy. I take that to be all of the wounded neocons coming out of their holes, but still a scary thing. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:31:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Weapons at Obama rally That is just so wrong. Our government needs to make a statement about this kind of behavior no matter what their point of view is that asinine stuff like this should never be tolerated. Period. There are certain things that shouldn't be done. I would think that bringing a gun to a political rally should be on the top 5. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Mr Worf, I get the feeling that he won't even be questioned. Am I the only person thinking that the Secret Service needs to be replaced in a hurry? I've lost track of the number of threats against President Obama this year. On the Young Turks web site, they once named them off, at least six. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:19:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Weapons at Obama rally So I hope they throw his dumb ass in jail for a good long time. Just for Gp. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: This was apparently a planned publicity stunt by a conservative radio host... soemwhere. Can't remember the place. Worst thing about this? It *would* have to be a brother packing the AR-15... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/18/right-wing-radio-host-sta_n_262559.html If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery
[scifinoir2] Science ponders 'zombie attack'
Science ponders 'zombie attack' By Pallab Ghosh Science correspondent, BBC News If zombies actually existed, an attack by them would lead to the collapse of civilisation unless dealt with quickly and aggressively. That is the conclusion of a mathematical exercise carried out by researchers in Canada. They say only frequent counter-attacks with increasing force would eradicate the fictional creatures. The scientific paper is published in a book - Infectious Diseases Modelling Research Progress. In books, films, video games and folklore, zombies are undead creatures, able to turn the living into other zombies with a bite. But there is a serious side to the work. In some respects, a zombie plague resembles a lethal, rapidly spreading infection. The researchers say the exercise could help scientists model the spread of unfamiliar diseases through human populations. My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it's dead forever Professor Neil Ferguson In their study, the researchers from the University of Ottawa and Carleton University (also in Ottawa) posed a question: If there was to be a battle between zombies and the living, who would win? Professor Robert Smith? (the question mark is part of his surname and not a typographical mistake) and colleagues wrote: We model a zombie attack using biological assumptions based on popular zombie movies. We introduce a basic model for zombie infection and illustrate the outcome with numerical solutions. FROM THE TODAY PROGRAMME More from Today programme To give the living a fighting chance, the researchers chose classic slow-moving zombies as our opponents rather than the nimble, intelligent creatures portrayed in some recent films. While we are trying to be as broad as possible in modelling zombies - especially as there are many variables - we have decided not to consider these individuals, the researchers said. Back for good? Even so, their analysis revealed that a strategy of capturing or curing the zombies would only put off the inevitable. In their scientific paper, the authors conclude that humanity's only hope is to hit them [the undead] hard and hit them often. They added: It's imperative that zombies are dealt with quickly or else... we are all in a great deal of trouble. According to the researchers, the key difference between the zombies and the spread of real infections is that zombies can come back to life. Professor Neil Ferguson, who is one of the UK government's chief advisers on controlling the spread of swine flu, said the study did have parallels with some infectious diseases. None of them actually cause large-scale death or disease, but certainly there are some fungal infections which are difficult to eradicate, said Professor Ferguson, from Imperial College London. There are some viral infections - simple diseases like chicken pox have survived in very small communities. If you get it when you are very young, the virus stays with you and can re-occur as shingles, triggering a new chicken pox epidemic. Professor Smith? told BBC News: When you try to model an unfamiliar disease, you try to find out what's happening, try to approximate it. You then refine it, go back and try again. We refined the model again and again to say... here's how you would tackle an unfamiliar disease. Professor Ferguson went on to joke: The paper considers something that many of us have worried about - particularly in our younger days - of what would be a feasible way of tackling an outbreak of a rapidly spreading zombie infection. My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it's dead forever. So perhaps they are being a little over-pessimistic when they conclude that zombies might take over a city in three or four days.
[scifinoir2] What Does District 9 Have To Say About Apartheid?
What Does District 9 Have To Say About Apartheid? Posted Tuesday, August 18| By Jonah Weiner http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/browbeat/archive/2009/08/18/what-does-district-9-have-to-say-about-apartheid.aspx I caught a matinee of District 9 today with a friend who is a devoted sci-fi buff, and who spent several years living in South Africa (in the post-apartheid aughts). Afterward, we agreed we'd had a blastunlike Dan Engber, whose review is hereand then got to the harder work of puzzling over the film's politics. That District 9 grapples with apartheid is irrefutable, but what does it have to say on the subject? (Spoilers hover above the next paragraph, their alien turbines idling.) My friend was troubled by the depiction of the stranded aliens as shiftless intergalactic schlubs, as Dan puts it. There's something unsavory, he argued, in director Neill Blomkamp portraying his allegorical shack dwellers as dumb, hapless, and helpless members of a community so thoroughly rent by poverty and oppression that the only hope for their betterment lies either in intervention from the outside (Wikus van der Merwe) or the lone efforts of an anomalous, intellectually advanced insider (the alien called Christopher Thompson). This logic can take on an infantilizing, unempowering aspect, he said, that denies oppressed parties agency, the ability to organize effectively from the ground up. We were both uncertain about Blomkamp's ultimate point about miscegenation, for lack of a better word, as represented by Wikus's gooey transformation into a prawn. Right through the film's final image, Wikus regards his othering from himself as a horror he wants reversedhe fights the evil MNU not out of virtue but out of self-interest and, in the process, becomes a microcosmic model for any native body that fears foreign contamination. The transforming/transformed Wikus isn't the embodiment of post-racial harmony. Rather, the metamorphosis alienates him twice over, strands him between categories that are themselves left intact: He's not a human and he's not a prawn, either. That's fineit makes him a more interesting character and District 9 a more complicated film. But while it's clear Wikus isn't a radical, Blomkamp's own position remains opaque. It occurs to me that we could easily imagine the South African Lou Dobbs, say, sympathizing with and championing the prawnsafter all, they don't peskily want jobs or equal rights as citizens; they just want to wash our hands of themselves and fly on home.
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now
Oh, you know, bearing up as well as can be expected in these days of more modest expectations. :-) How 'bout you, sir? How's the general well being? Brent C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com writes: Ê Brent! How are you sir? -From: brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:58:16 PM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ê Ahhh... yes. That she is... :-) Brent C.W. Badie [ mailto:astromancer2002%40yahoo.com ]astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: True...but Karen Leblanc is very easy on the eyes... -From: George Arterberry [ mailto:brotherfromhoward%40yahoo.com ]brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com To: [ mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ]scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:17:06 AM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now æ It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama.. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ [ [ http://gmail.com/ ]http://gmail. com/ ][ http://gmail.com/ ]gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ][ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM æ The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter [ [ http://us.mc586..mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=truthseeker...@lycos.com ]http://us.mc586. .mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01 3...@lycos.com ]truthseeker013@ [ http://lycos.com/ ]lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. [ [ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- æSubject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now æDate : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) æFrom : C.W. Badie [ [ http://us.mc586.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=astromancer2...@yahoo.com ]http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 0...@yahoo. com ]astromancer2002@ [ http://yahoo.com/ ]yahoo.com æTo : [ [ http://us.mc586.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com ]http://us.mc586. mail..yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups..com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation.. .. ___ _ _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: [ [ http://us.mc586.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com ]http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro [ [ http://ups.com/ ]http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares.. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with
[scifinoir2] Visualizing Up To Ten Dimensions
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RE: [scifinoir2] Visualizing Up To Ten Dimensions
(nultiple geekgasms) Sorry, folks. I'll be sure to clean that up... Thanks, Brent! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: brent_wodeho...@thefence.us Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:15:47 -0400 Subject: [scifinoir2] Visualizing Up To Ten Dimensions http://www.boingboing.net/2009/08/18/visualizing-up-to-te.html _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009
RE: [scifinoir2] Science ponders 'zombie attack'
A dear friend of mine sent me earlier, and we both agree that such an event might actually be for the betterment of Mankind, slowing down the species's rampant abuse/exploitation of the planet. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: sincere1...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:24:31 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Science ponders 'zombie attack' Science ponders 'zombie attack' By Pallab Ghosh Science correspondent, BBC News If zombies actually existed, an attack by them would lead to the collapse of civilisation unless dealt with quickly and aggressively. That is the conclusion of a mathematical exercise carried out by researchers in Canada. They say only frequent counter-attacks with increasing force would eradicate the fictional creatures. The scientific paper is published in a book - Infectious Diseases Modelling Research Progress. In books, films, video games and folklore, zombies are undead creatures, able to turn the living into other zombies with a bite. But there is a serious side to the work. In some respects, a zombie plague resembles a lethal, rapidly spreading infection. The researchers say the exercise could help scientists model the spread of unfamiliar diseases through human populations. My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it's dead forever Professor Neil Ferguson In their study, the researchers from the University of Ottawa and Carleton University (also in Ottawa) posed a question: If there was to be a battle between zombies and the living, who would win? Professor Robert Smith? (the question mark is part of his surname and not a typographical mistake) and colleagues wrote: We model a zombie attack using biological assumptions based on popular zombie movies. We introduce a basic model for zombie infection and illustrate the outcome with numerical solutions. FROM THE TODAY PROGRAMME More from Today programme To give the living a fighting chance, the researchers chose classic slow-moving zombies as our opponents rather than the nimble, intelligent creatures portrayed in some recent films. While we are trying to be as broad as possible in modelling zombies - especially as there are many variables - we have decided not to consider these individuals, the researchers said. Back for good? Even so, their analysis revealed that a strategy of capturing or curing the zombies would only put off the inevitable. In their scientific paper, the authors conclude that humanity's only hope is to hit them [the undead] hard and hit them often. They added: It's imperative that zombies are dealt with quickly or else... we are all in a great deal of trouble. According to the researchers, the key difference between the zombies and the spread of real infections is that zombies can come back to life. Professor Neil Ferguson, who is one of the UK government's chief advisers on controlling the spread of swine flu, said the study did have parallels with some infectious diseases. None of them actually cause large-scale death or disease, but certainly there are some fungal infections which are difficult to eradicate, said Professor Ferguson, from Imperial College London. There are some viral infections - simple diseases like chicken pox have survived in very small communities. If you get it when you are very young, the virus stays with you and can re-occur as shingles, triggering a new chicken pox epidemic. Professor Smith? told BBC News: When you try to model an unfamiliar disease, you try to find out what's happening, try to approximate it. You then refine it, go back and try again. We refined the model again and again to say... here's how you would tackle an unfamiliar disease. Professor Ferguson went on to joke: The paper considers something that many of us have worried about - particularly in our younger days - of what would be a feasible way of tackling an outbreak of a rapidly spreading zombie infection. My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it's dead forever. So perhaps they are being a little over-pessimistic when they conclude that zombies might take over a city in three or four days. _ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Weapons at Obama rally
A critical overload on the resources of every hospital within a fifteen-mile radius of the event? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:39:44 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Weapons at Obama rally I wonder what would have happened if the New Black Panther Party, PIP, AIM or any armed leftist group would have been within a mile of Dubya exercising their rights to openly bear arms? During the last administration people were jailed for wearing shirts or having signs that were politcally abrasive to the people in power and FOX and the like thought it was great. How times have changed. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: (standing ovation) When I first saw this, I thought only of all of the reports of threats against President Obama. Just scary. The comments on the vid of this on YouTube are running mostly PRO-this guy. I take that to be all of the wounded neocons coming out of their holes, but still a scary thing. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:31:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Weapons at Obama rally That is just so wrong. Our government needs to make a statement about this kind of behavior no matter what their point of view is that asinine stuff like this should never be tolerated. Period. There are certain things that shouldn't be done. I would think that bringing a gun to a political rally should be on the top 5. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Mr Worf, I get the feeling that he won't even be questioned. Am I the only person thinking that the Secret Service needs to be replaced in a hurry? I've lost track of the number of threats against President Obama this year. On the Young Turks web site, they once named them off, at least six. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:19:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Weapons at Obama rally So I hope they throw his dumb ass in jail for a good long time. Just for Gp. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: This was apparently a planned publicity stunt by a conservative radio host... soemwhere. Can't remember the place. Worst thing about this? It *would* have to be a brother packing the AR-15... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/18/right-wing-radio-host-sta_n_262559.html If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ __ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery _ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers
Just got me... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:32:23 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers It fits the definition for me. Roy had done everything he could to get more life but that was denied him. When he had Deckard at his mercy he spared him and allowed him to do something that he could not do and that is to go on living. He actually showed empathy and mercy and was at the moment more human than the man hunting him. The speech is just the icing on the cake. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die. That gets me evey time I see the movie. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: The Blade Runner scene is poignant and memorable, can't believe I forgot that one. But, is it really a tearjerker? It makes me sad, but not misty-eyed... - Original Message - From: B. Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:50:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers That's actually a great list. There is one omission I found striking and that is Roy Batty's speech on the rooftop in Blade Runner. That is classic. The Serenity choice is a great one. I remember being stunned into silence and hearing audible gasps when the famous line I am a leaf on the wind is said that last time. I'm glad they gave B5 some love too. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ wrote: As touching as Doomsday was, it pales in comparison with the chips speech at the end of season 1 for me. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@wrote: Grab Kleenex, folks... http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=sf_s_26_greatest_tearjerkers If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009 _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009
Re: [scifinoir2] Defying gravity
No, she vomited repeatably in the episode before this one as well. She even threw up in the bar and she wasn't drinking. I think they should have done a complete history on the doctor before he went up. All of the characters seem to have psychological issues though. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, I think they explained her vomiting as an aftereffect of the anti-gravity system they were using. While we're here, I want to know how the ship's doctor got onboard, with the pre-existing PTSD he's got? When the lights started blinking out in the last ep, he went crazy, huddling up on the floor, flashing back to what was apparently the last war humanity had fought, being trapped in rubble and unable to get to his family. That's something that should've been looked at, long and hard. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:13:16 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] Defying gravity Ok, one question that has been bothering me since the show started is WHY WOULD YOU HAVE A PERSON THAT HAS A NERVOUS VOMITING PROBLEM GO ON A LONG TERM SPACE MISSION? -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. Click here. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Weapons at Obama rally
The head of Progressive magazine asked this exact question on KPFA Berkeley this morning. If it were black people doing this at a Bush rally I'm quite sure that they would have ended up in jail. There are a lot of double standards that have been allowed as of late. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:39 AM, daikaiju66 daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: I wonder what would have happened if the New Black Panther Party, PIP, AIM or any armed leftist group would have been within a mile of Dubya exercising their rights to openly bear arms? During the last administration people were jailed for wearing shirts or having signs that were politcally abrasive to the people in power and FOX and the like thought it was great. How times have changed. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: (standing ovation) When I first saw this, I thought only of all of the reports of threats against President Obama. Just scary. The comments on the vid of this on YouTube are running mostly PRO-this guy. I take that to be all of the wounded neocons coming out of their holes, but still a scary thing. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:31:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Weapons at Obama rally That is just so wrong. Our government needs to make a statement about this kind of behavior no matter what their point of view is that asinine stuff like this should never be tolerated. Period. There are certain things that shouldn't be done. I would think that bringing a gun to a political rally should be on the top 5. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Mr Worf, I get the feeling that he won't even be questioned. Am I the only person thinking that the Secret Service needs to be replaced in a hurry? I've lost track of the number of threats against President Obama this year. On the Young Turks web site, they once named them off, at least six. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:19:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Weapons at Obama rally So I hope they throw his dumb ass in jail for a good long time. Just for Gp. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: This was apparently a planned publicity stunt by a conservative radio host... soemwhere. Can't remember the place. Worst thing about this? It *would* have to be a brother packing the AR-15... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/18/right-wing-radio-host-sta_n_262559.html If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack'
Except for all the brain eating and undeadness. The arms industry will make a killing though. *ahem* Slow Romero style zombies would be easier to contain but the running, jumping Dawn of the Dead 2004 model would be the end of the world as we know it except for folks lucky enough to get to uninhabited islands. I'd rather deal with the 28 Days Later style infected. At least in the first movie you could safely travel by day, kill them more easily and barricade yourself inside a strong building for protection. Although the 28 Days Later and Quarantine/Rec style infected are damned hard to get rid of they could be dealt with if you take action quickly. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: A dear friend of mine sent me earlier, and we both agree that such an event might actually be for the betterment of Mankind, slowing down the species's rampant abuse/exploitation of the planet. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: sincere1...@... Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:24:31 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Science ponders 'zombie attack' Science ponders 'zombie attack' By Pallab Ghosh Science correspondent, BBC News If zombies actually existed, an attack by them would lead to the collapse of civilisation unless dealt with quickly and aggressively. That is the conclusion of a mathematical exercise carried out by researchers in Canada. They say only frequent counter-attacks with increasing force would eradicate the fictional creatures. The scientific paper is published in a book - Infectious Diseases Modelling Research Progress. In books, films, video games and folklore, zombies are undead creatures, able to turn the living into other zombies with a bite. But there is a serious side to the work. In some respects, a zombie plague resembles a lethal, rapidly spreading infection. The researchers say the exercise could help scientists model the spread of unfamiliar diseases through human populations. My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it's dead forever Professor Neil Ferguson In their study, the researchers from the University of Ottawa and Carleton University (also in Ottawa) posed a question: If there was to be a battle between zombies and the living, who would win? Professor Robert Smith? (the question mark is part of his surname and not a typographical mistake) and colleagues wrote: We model a zombie attack using biological assumptions based on popular zombie movies. We introduce a basic model for zombie infection and illustrate the outcome with numerical solutions. FROM THE TODAY PROGRAMME More from Today programme To give the living a fighting chance, the researchers chose classic slow-moving zombies as our opponents rather than the nimble, intelligent creatures portrayed in some recent films. While we are trying to be as broad as possible in modelling zombies - especially as there are many variables - we have decided not to consider these individuals, the researchers said. Back for good? Even so, their analysis revealed that a strategy of capturing or curing the zombies would only put off the inevitable. In their scientific paper, the authors conclude that humanity's only hope is to hit them [the undead] hard and hit them often. They added: It's imperative that zombies are dealt with quickly or else... we are all in a great deal of trouble. According to the researchers, the key difference between the zombies and the spread of real infections is that zombies can come back to life. Professor Neil Ferguson, who is one of the UK government's chief advisers on controlling the spread of swine flu, said the study did have parallels with some infectious diseases. None of them actually cause large-scale death or disease, but certainly there are some fungal infections which are difficult to eradicate, said Professor Ferguson, from Imperial College London. There are some viral infections - simple diseases like chicken pox have survived in very small communities. If you get it when you are very young, the virus stays with you and can re-occur as shingles, triggering a new chicken pox epidemic. Professor Smith? told BBC News: When you try to model an unfamiliar disease, you try to find out what's happening, try to approximate it. You then refine it, go back and try again. We refined the model again and again to say... here's how you would tackle an unfamiliar disease. Professor Ferguson went on to joke: The paper
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack'
Have to agree with you there. With the Dawn '04 Model zombies, you couldn't keep slow people around you. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:40:20 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack' Except for all the brain eating and undeadness. The arms industry will make a killing though. *ahem* Slow Romero style zombies would be easier to contain but the running, jumping Dawn of the Dead 2004 model would be the end of the world as we know it except for folks lucky enough to get to uninhabited islands. I'd rather deal with the 28 Days Later style infected. At least in the first movie you could safely travel by day, kill them more easily and barricade yourself inside a strong building for protection. Although the 28 Days Later and Quarantine/Rec style infected are damned hard to get rid of they could be dealt with if you take action quickly. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: A dear friend of mine sent me earlier, and we both agree that such an event might actually be for the betterment of Mankind, slowing down the species's rampant abuse/exploitation of the planet. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: sincere1...@... Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:24:31 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Science ponders 'zombie attack' Science ponders 'zombie attack' By Pallab Ghosh Science correspondent, BBC News If zombies actually existed, an attack by them would lead to the collapse of civilisation unless dealt with quickly and aggressively. That is the conclusion of a mathematical exercise carried out by researchers in Canada. They say only frequent counter-attacks with increasing force would eradicate the fictional creatures. The scientific paper is published in a book - Infectious Diseases Modelling Research Progress. In books, films, video games and folklore, zombies are undead creatures, able to turn the living into other zombies with a bite. But there is a serious side to the work. In some respects, a zombie plague resembles a lethal, rapidly spreading infection. The researchers say the exercise could help scientists model the spread of unfamiliar diseases through human populations. My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it's dead forever Professor Neil Ferguson In their study, the researchers from the University of Ottawa and Carleton University (also in Ottawa) posed a question: If there was to be a battle between zombies and the living, who would win? Professor Robert Smith? (the question mark is part of his surname and not a typographical mistake) and colleagues wrote: We model a zombie attack using biological assumptions based on popular zombie movies. We introduce a basic model for zombie infection and illustrate the outcome with numerical solutions. FROM THE TODAY PROGRAMME More from Today programme To give the living a fighting chance, the researchers chose classic slow-moving zombies as our opponents rather than the nimble, intelligent creatures portrayed in some recent films. While we are trying to be as broad as possible in modelling zombies - especially as there are many variables - we have decided not to consider these individuals, the researchers said. Back for good? Even so, their analysis revealed that a strategy of capturing or curing the zombies would only put off the inevitable. In their scientific paper, the authors conclude that humanity's only hope is to hit them [the undead] hard and hit them often. They added: It's imperative that zombies are dealt with quickly or else... we are all in a great deal of trouble. According to the researchers, the key difference between the zombies and the spread of real infections is that zombies can come back to life. Professor Neil Ferguson, who is one of the UK government's chief advisers on controlling the spread of swine flu, said the study did have parallels with some infectious diseases. None of them actually cause large-scale death or disease, but certainly there are some fungal infections which are difficult to eradicate, said Professor Ferguson, from Imperial College
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Weapons at Obama rally
And I doubt that they would've even been seen on camera, because they would've been disposed of with lightning swiftness, delivered to Gitmo within 24 hours. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:33:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Weapons at Obama rally The head of Progressive magazine asked this exact question on KPFA Berkeley this morning. If it were black people doing this at a Bush rally I'm quite sure that they would have ended up in jail. There are a lot of double standards that have been allowed as of late. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:39 AM, daikaiju66 daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: I wonder what would have happened if the New Black Panther Party, PIP, AIM or any armed leftist group would have been within a mile of Dubya exercising their rights to openly bear arms? During the last administration people were jailed for wearing shirts or having signs that were politcally abrasive to the people in power and FOX and the like thought it was great. How times have changed. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: (standing ovation) When I first saw this, I thought only of all of the reports of threats against President Obama. Just scary. The comments on the vid of this on YouTube are running mostly PRO-this guy. I take that to be all of the wounded neocons coming out of their holes, but still a scary thing. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:31:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Weapons at Obama rally That is just so wrong. Our government needs to make a statement about this kind of behavior no matter what their point of view is that asinine stuff like this should never be tolerated. Period. There are certain things that shouldn't be done. I would think that bringing a gun to a political rally should be on the top 5. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Mr Worf, I get the feeling that he won't even be questioned. Am I the only person thinking that the Secret Service needs to be replaced in a hurry? I've lost track of the number of threats against President Obama this year. On the Young Turks web site, they once named them off, at least six. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:19:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Weapons at Obama rally So I hope they throw his dumb ass in jail for a good long time. Just for Gp. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: This was apparently a planned publicity stunt by a conservative radio host... soemwhere. Can't remember the place. Worst thing about this? It *would* have to be a brother packing the AR-15... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/18/right-wing-radio-host-sta_n_262559.html If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ Individual Email | Traditional
RE: [scifinoir2] Defying gravity
Must've snoozed on that bit. And funny how the two astronauts who were pulled from the mission -- well, the former mission commander, anyway -- is in great health. Wonder what the aliens didn't like in him, to reject him? Or did they want A.J onboard because he had/has the thing going with the ex-MC's wife? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:00:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Defying gravity No, she vomited repeatably in the episode before this one as well. She even threw up in the bar and she wasn't drinking. I think they should have done a complete history on the doctor before he went up. All of the characters seem to have psychological issues though. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Mr Worf, I think they explained her vomiting as an aftereffect of the anti-gravity system they were using. While we're here, I want to know how the ship's doctor got onboard, with the pre-existing PTSD he's got? When the lights started blinking out in the last ep, he went crazy, huddling up on the floor, flashing back to what was apparently the last war humanity had fought, being trapped in rubble and unable to get to his family. That's something that should've been looked at, long and hard. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:13:16 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] Defying gravity Ok, one question that has been bothering me since the show started is WHY WOULD YOU HAVE A PERSON THAT HAS A NERVOUS VOMITING PROBLEM GO ON A LONG TERM SPACE MISSION? -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. Click here. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1
Re: [scifinoir2] Defying gravity
Good question. I dunno. The writers seem to be a bit elusive with revealing things just yet. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Must've snoozed on that bit. And funny how the two astronauts who were pulled from the mission -- well, the former mission commander, anyway -- is in great health. Wonder what the aliens didn't like in him, to reject him? Or did they want A.J onboard because he had/has the thing going with the ex-MC's wife? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:00:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Defying gravity No, she vomited repeatably in the episode before this one as well. She even threw up in the bar and she wasn't drinking. I think they should have done a complete history on the doctor before he went up. All of the characters seem to have psychological issues though. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Mr Worf, I think they explained her vomiting as an aftereffect of the anti-gravity system they were using. While we're here, I want to know how the ship's doctor got onboard, with the pre-existing PTSD he's got? When the lights started blinking out in the last ep, he went crazy, huddling up on the floor, flashing back to what was apparently the last war humanity had fought, being trapped in rubble and unable to get to his family. That's something that should've been looked at, long and hard. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:13:16 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] Defying gravity Ok, one question that has been bothering me since the show started is WHY WOULD YOU HAVE A PERSON THAT HAS A NERVOUS VOMITING PROBLEM GO ON A LONG TERM SPACE MISSION? -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. Click here. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. Try BingT now.http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Weapons at Obama rally
The thing that irks me about all of this is that there aren't many democrats taking an offensive posture. It is mostly folks reacting to how stupid these people are. Were are the heated protests against this kind of madness? Where are the protesters against the people promoting this kind of behavior??? In the hood we call this being punked. I choose not to be punked by the republican party. You feel me? On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: And I doubt that they would've even been seen on camera, because they would've been disposed of with lightning swiftness, delivered to Gitmo within 24 hours. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:33:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Weapons at Obama rally The head of Progressive magazine asked this exact question on KPFA Berkeley this morning. If it were black people doing this at a Bush rally I'm quite sure that they would have ended up in jail. There are a lot of double standards that have been allowed as of late. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:39 AM, daikaiju66 daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: I wonder what would have happened if the New Black Panther Party, PIP, AIM or any armed leftist group would have been within a mile of Dubya exercising their rights to openly bear arms? During the last administration people were jailed for wearing shirts or having signs that were politcally abrasive to the people in power and FOX and the like thought it was great. How times have changed. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: (standing ovation) When I first saw this, I thought only of all of the reports of threats against President Obama. Just scary. The comments on the vid of this on YouTube are running mostly PRO-this guy. I take that to be all of the wounded neocons coming out of their holes, but still a scary thing. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:31:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Weapons at Obama rally That is just so wrong. Our government needs to make a statement about this kind of behavior no matter what their point of view is that asinine stuff like this should never be tolerated. Period. There are certain things that shouldn't be done. I would think that bringing a gun to a political rally should be on the top 5. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Mr Worf, I get the feeling that he won't even be questioned. Am I the only person thinking that the Secret Service needs to be replaced in a hurry? I've lost track of the number of threats against President Obama this year. On the Young Turks web site, they once named them off, at least six. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@... Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:19:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Weapons at Obama rally So I hope they throw his dumb ass in jail for a good long time. Just for Gp. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: This was apparently a planned publicity stunt by a conservative radio host... soemwhere. Can't remember the place. Worst thing about this? It *would* have to be a brother packing the AR-15... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/18/right-wing-radio-host-sta_n_262559.html If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now
Well put. I watched the first 3 eps on hulu, but probably won't watch any more. Thye've made it too hard for me to care what's in pod 4. Funny thing I noticed though: about 2:15 into Ep 3 (scene: the packed-up living room of the couple originally on the mission before the guy got cut) is the same as Starbuck's appartment on BSG. Ha! -From: George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:17:06 AM Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Ê It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a sexual drama. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ [ http://gmail. com/ ]gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now To: scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM Ê The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter [ http://us.mc586. .mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01 3...@lycos.com ]truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll probably last its full run. [ http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ -[ Received Mail Content ]-- ÊSubject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now ÊDate : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) ÊFrom : C.W. Badie [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 0...@yahoo. com ]astromancer2002@ yahoo.com ÊTo : [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the leads to cancellation. .. ___ _ _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: [ http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it bbegan. I I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked, without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out what's really up. As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the spaceship Antares.. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure. Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck or something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and a lot of titillation. It makes it hard for one to get a feeling of the overall nature of the show. Is it a drama, a reality-type show like Virtuality , a mystery? ÊDon't know, but I ! found myself losing interest a lot, then picking it back up, then
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers
I remember that too, good stuff. Never did figure why the Deryni of Gwynedd didn't leave en masse and go to the neighboring countries, some of which had openly practicing Deryni. By the way, I remember getting misty eyed later, when Evaine-who, if I remember had lost a child too--was doing one of the spiritual/psychic things, and caught a glimpse of the Afterlife. There, she saw her husband and child, and decided to just let go, while her frantic brother tried to call her back. that was something... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:56:20 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers I hear you, pal. My own moment-of-tears with the written word came when I first read Katherine Kurtz's Camber the Heretic, a scene when a group of psi-gifted humanoids where being massacred by humans. One of the humanoids (Deryni, their race was called), Rhys, a doctor with the power to heal, was trying to escape when he saw injured humans nearby. Being a doctor, he followed the Hippocratic and stopped to begin healing the person. As he was doing so, he was hit from behind, a blow that stoved in his head, destroying the part of his brain that enabled him to heal. His wife Evaine learned this as she went into his mind, trying to access his power to heal him. All the while, he was still conscious, feeling himself die, saying his goodbyes to his friends telepathically... marked the first and only time I've ever thrown a book. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:20:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers Sorry, but the biggest tearjerking moment for me was not in a movie...It was from Octavia Butler's Wild Seed, when Anyanwu came to the conclusion that she was never going to change or escape from Doro, so she decided to just commit suicide (basically let herself die as she was immortal). Doro, realizing that Anyanwu was the only constant in his life, breaks down and pleads with her not to do it because he could not bare life without her (gotta read the bookI'm not good at explanations...in fact, I suck at it...). Until I read that book, I had never shed a tear over the written word... From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:07:35 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers The Blade Runner scene is poignant and memorable, can't believe I forgot that one. But, is it really a tearjerker ? It makes me sad, but not misty-eyed.. . - Original Message - From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo. com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:50:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers That's actually a great list. There is one omission I found striking and that is Roy Batty's speech on the rooftop in Blade Runner. That is classic. The Serenity choice is a great one. I remember being stunned into silence and hearing audible gasps when the famous line I am a leaf on the wind is said that last time. I'm glad they gave B5 some love too. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com , Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ ... wrote: As touching as Doomsday was, it pales in comparison with the chips speech at the end of season 1 for me. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ...wrote: Grab Kleenex, folks... http://www.sfx. co.uk/page/ sfx?entry= sf_s_26_greatest _tearjerkers If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik - - Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. http://windowslive. com/online/ hotmail?ocid= PID23391: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- US:WM_HYGN_ faster:082009 Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. Find out more.
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers
oh yeah, one of the greatest movie speeches of all time! - Original Message - From: daikaiju66 daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:32:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers It fits the definition for me. Roy had done everything he could to get more life but that was denied him. When he had Deckard at his mercy he spared him and allowed him to do something that he could not do and that is to go on living. He actually showed empathy and mercy and was at the moment more human than the man hunting him. The speech is just the icing on the cake. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die. That gets me evey time I see the movie. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: The Blade Runner scene is poignant and memorable, can't believe I forgot that one. But, is it really a tearjerker? It makes me sad, but not misty-eyed... - Original Message - From: B. Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:50:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers That's actually a great list. There is one omission I found striking and that is Roy Batty's speech on the rooftop in Blade Runner. That is classic. The Serenity choice is a great one. I remember being stunned into silence and hearing audible gasps when the famous line I am a leaf on the wind is said that last time. I'm glad they gave B5 some love too. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ wrote: As touching as Doomsday was, it pales in comparison with the chips speech at the end of season 1 for me. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@wrote: Grab Kleenex, folks... http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=sf_s_26_greatest_tearjerkers If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009
