Re: [scifinoir2] JUSTICE LEAGUE: CRISIS ON TWO EARTHS Announced

[Mr. Worf]

Is it out already?

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:40 PM, George Arterberry <
brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> An original story from award-winning animation/comics writer Dwayne
> McDuffie (Justice League) rooted in DC Comics’ popular canon of
> “Crisis” stories.
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> Bruce Timm (Superman Doomsday, Green Lantern) is executive producer.
> Lauren Montgomery (Wonder Woman, Green Lantern) and Sam Liu
> (Superman/Batman: Public Enemies) are co-directors.
>
> In Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths, a “good” Lex Luthor arrives
> from an alternate universe to recruit the Justice League to help save
> his Earth from the Crime Syndicate, a gang of villainous characters
> with virtually identical super powers to the Justice League. What
> ensues is the ultimate battle of good versus evil in a war that
> threatens both planets and, through a diabolical plan launched by
> Owlman, puts the balance of all existence in peril.
>
> All-star voice cast led by Mark Harmon (NCIS) as Superman, James Woods
> (Ghosts of Mississippi) as Owlman, Chris Noth (Sex and the City, Law &
> Order) as Lex Luthor, William Baldwin (Dirty Sexy Money) as Batman,
> Gina Torres (Serenity, Firefly) as Super Woman and Bruce Davison
> (X-Men) as the President.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?

[Keith Johnson]

In this case, I agree with you. She still deserved to be penalized for the 
extreme nature of the "oughta shove this ball..." comment, but the provocation 
was understandable. 

- Original Message - 
From: "daikaiju66"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:56:41 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about 
Serena? 






I think it was built up frustration on Serena's part. She's had a history of 
getting shafted by the officials in several big matches. Add that to the 
hostile atmosphere of seing your foreign opponent being cheered more than you 
at the frakin' U.S. Open and she blew a gasket. For the line judge to call a 
questionable foot fault at that stage of the match was unthinkable. 

I'm not saying she was right...but I understand. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter  wrote: 
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> As stupid as what Kanye did. 
> 
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 
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> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> From: aubrey.leatherw...@... 
> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:00:48 -0400 
> Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena? 
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> 
> Aubrey Leatherwood 
> www.aubreyleatherwood.com 
> FaceBook * MySpace 
> Dime 
> Coming November 2 from Phaze Books 
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> A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. 
> The People You Know, The Sex They Have 
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[scifinoir2] JUSTICE LEAGUE: CRISIS ON TWO EARTHS Announced

[George Arterberry]

An original story from award-winning animation/comics writer Dwayne
McDuffie (Justice League) rooted in DC Comics’ popular canon of
“Crisis” stories.Bruce Timm (Superman Doomsday, Green Lantern) is executive 
producer.
Lauren Montgomery (Wonder Woman, Green Lantern) and Sam Liu
(Superman/Batman: Public Enemies) are co-directors.In Justice League: Crisis on 
Two Earths, a “good” Lex Luthor arrives
from an alternate universe to recruit the Justice League to help save
his Earth from the Crime Syndicate, a gang of villainous characters
with virtually identical super powers to the Justice League. What
ensues is the ultimate battle of good versus evil in a war that
threatens both planets and, through a diabolical plan launched by
Owlman, puts the balance of all existence in peril.All-star voice cast led by 
Mark Harmon (NCIS) as Superman, James Woods
(Ghosts of Mississippi) as Owlman, Chris Noth (Sex and the City, Law &
Order) as Lex Luthor, William Baldwin (Dirty Sexy Money) as Batman,
Gina Torres (Serenity, Firefly) as Super Woman and Bruce Davison
(X-Men) as the President.

 
















  

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment

[Keith Johnson]

That is very true. But what a sad demonstration of that newfound freedom we 
have. 

And for my last take, let me reiterate this wasn't about defending some 
innocent *white* girl. I did see a kid (only 19) having fun, ruined by a fool. 
Had this been Keke Palmer, I'd have been incensed. Had it been Mariah Carey, 
I'd have been pissed. When he did it to the white guys a while back, i was 
taken aback. 

I see a lot of blacks got ticked at what they saw was people attacking the Big 
Black Man for menacing their Pure White Virgin. And yeah, I know this is 
America: I know there's some of that among some of the populace. It's just not 
my motivation. 

Like I said, to me, this is irritation at a Black man acting a fool, from a guy 
raised in a time when we were raised to "act like you got some sense". 

And by the way, when Jay Leno asked West what his mom would have thought about 
his behaviour, he could only hang his head in shame and sadness. Brother isn't 
bad, just needs to get some distance and focus on what he's trying to be. 

- Original Message - 
From: "ravenadal"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:10:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment 






My last take on the Kanye West mess: it wasn't too long ago when a black man 
would be lynched for having the temerity to step wise to a precious white 
flower of the Confederacy. That Mr. West can do so on national television and 
live to tell about it is indisputable evidence of how far we have come. 

As a character in my unpublished novel says, "What virtue is there in being 
chaste when that is the only choice you have?" 

~(no)rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson  wrote: 
> 
> I'm not even close to doing a "Bill Cosby", whatever that means. And I have 
> sensed some black folks irritated because Taylor Swift is a young blonde 
> white girl. That has nothing to do with it for me. I think his behavior is 
> just boorish and stupid. One thing black people used to be able to count on 
> was that we had good "home training", that our mamas and daddies taught us to 
> act like we had some "sense". When he did this to a group of white male 
> singers a while back, I thought that was ridiculous. We have to be careful to 
> avoid this near malicious pleasure at what we see as some black hero giving 
> it back to Whitey. that ain't what this is about. 
> 
> You're way too focused on what's cool, what's hip, what's seen as edgy, what 
> gets people press, at people's "rights". What you're missing is that the 
> right of speech for you should not infringe upon the right of speech for me. 
> Had Kanye presented and wanted to say that, I'd have still thought he was out 
> of line, but okay, that his biz. Don't invite him back to speak. Had he said 
> it in an interview later, his business. He he blogged or twittered it, fine. 
> His biz. 
> 
> But this guy jumped up on stage and took the mic from another person, ruined 
> her moment, and then proceeded to tell millions she didn't deserve it. That 
> is out of line. You can't possibly tell me that in your life--personal, 
> church, or business--if someone did that to you, you'd let it go as "their 
> right to free speech". You tellling me that everytime you made a presentation 
> at work, got an honor, received praise from someone, that if someone jumped u 
> and did you that way you'd be cool with it? The way I was raised, you want to 
> say something you wait your turn. You act with decorum and common sense. And 
> the way I grew up, when you physically Bogart your way into someone's space 
> and face, it's a belligerent act that could start something. It's rude and 
> stupid, no matter the gender, age, race, class, coolness, genius, standing, 
> or rep of any of the principals involved. 
> 
> As for comparing this to other governments, what of it? Boorish behavior is 
> boorish behavior. And even then, you're getting it wrong. The Brits do a 
> strong session where one person talks, another jumps up and responds, and on 
> and on. The crowd yells and harumphs, and all, but the Parliamentarians don't 
> jump up and wrestle the mic from each other. If they continue always speaking 
> over each other, they're called to order. 
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> I strongly think we need to step back from this rancor based on politics, 
> ideology, class, and (what I'm hearing here) racial conflict, and remember 
> what it is to "act like you got some sense". 
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> Kanye is a black man raised by a black mom who I know taught him better. Were 
> she still alive, I'm pretty sure she'd have been just as upset with his 
> behavior as I am, no matter what color Swift had been. 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mr. Worf"  
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:57:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Mom

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment

[Keith Johnson]

Thanks-- i think. You're not trying to sandwich me between "House of Payne" and 
"Meet the Browns", are you?! 

- Original Message - 
From: "ravenadal"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:04:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment 






Keith, 

You should be on TBS because this was "very funny!" 

~rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson  wrote: 
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> Holy...! 
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> Close. 
> "e" 
> right-click. 
> Left click "Properties" 
> Tools - Internet Options - General - Browsing History. 
> "Delete". 
> Cookies. Check. 
> Temporary Internet Files. Check. 
> History. Che--ah hell, check ALL boxes! 
> "Delete". 
> Delete again. 
> "Delete browsing history on exit". Check 
> Close. 
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> "Start". 
> Right-click 
> Left-click "Explore". 
> C:\Documents and Settings\Keith\Application Data 
> ...\Macromedia - Delete all files 
> ...\Media Player. Delete all files. 
> ...\Cookies. Yep, empty. 
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> C:\Documents and Settings\Keith\Local Settings 
> ...\History. Yep, empty 
> ...\Temp. Delete all. 
> ...\Temporary Internet Files. Delete all. 
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> Recycle Bin. 
> Right-click. 
> left-click "Empty Recycle Bin". 
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> Open. 
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> From: "Martin Baxter"  
> To: "SciFiNoir2" < scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > 
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:40:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's 
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> Good move, rave. 
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> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 
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> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> From: ravena...@... 
> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:16:47 + 
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment 
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> I would send you my "Amber Rose" photo file but your wife wouldn't like it. 
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> ~rave! 
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> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson  wrote: 
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> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Mike Street"  
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:42:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's 
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> > Him and Amber where on the red carpet drinking from a bottle of henny. So I 
> > knw he was going to act crazy. They kicked him out of the building. I'm 
> > glad Beyonce gave her the mic to speak 
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> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Keith Johnson < KeithBJohnson@ > wrote: 
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> > One MTV reporter says he's on the Hennessey. Fool, it's such a waste of 
> > time as you say. Who's going to hear anything he has to say if he acts like 
> > this? 
> > and I don't care whether you like Swift or not, whether you think she 
> > should have won or not. Hell, whether you think it's cause she's young, 
> > blonde and white or not--this was out of 
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> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Aubrey Leatherwood" < aubrey.leatherwood@ > 
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:17:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's 
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> > Oh My God. I saw this tonight and called everyone I knew... "Did you see 
> > Kanye? Dat fool don gon and ambushed another awards show. Did you see the 
> > scared little white girl in the back? Poor Taylor Swift. I like that Romeo 
> > and Juliet song." 
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> > Dude and his cause? Really, I would have WANTED him to talk about 
> > healthcare, to say that it has more to do with race and entitlement than 
> > healthcare. But noo not Kanye. His cause is Beyonce, and Beyonce 
> > didn't need no help. 
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> > Oh my goodness... Is it bad that I've watched it over and over again trying 
> > to figure out just what substance that fellows on? 
> > 
> > Aubrey Leatherwood 
> > www.aubreyleatherwood.com 
> > FaceBook * MySpace 
> > Dime 
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> > Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 04:01:50 + 
> > Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment 
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> > To get away from healthcare, rude Republicans, and terrorists. As Monty 
> > Python gang said, "And now for something completely different..." what the 
>

[scifinoir2] Re: Zombies

[daikaiju66]

Both have their uses. The fast Dawn of the Dead '04 variety are terrifying but 
the Return of the Living Dead versions were worse because they were fast and 
retained some intelligence and had to be completely destroyed before they 
stopped trying to eat you.

I loved the infected of 28 Days Later too although they technically aren't zeds.

The Romero vintage shamblers are great because one or two you can fight off or 
kill. But their moans or other noises attract more and more zeds to the party 
sooner or later you're in too deep. 

Have you ever read World War Z or The Zombie Survival Guide? Great stuff. Max 
Brooks has a new book where he'll flesh out some of the historical outbreaks 
mentioned in The Zombie Survival Guide. So we'll get zombies in Roman times, 
the Old West and others. Fun stuff.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:
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> Slow or fast variety? Just curious.
> 
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: daikaij...@...
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:43:33 +
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Zombies
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> interesting take on the subject without having to deconstruct it.
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> ones I don't like are the ones from Brian Keene and few others that feature 
> intelligent zeds, those possessed by demons and the like. I like the Romero 
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> > loop for awhile... that's what happens when you only have 36 hours in a day 
> > (I double count what folks might call sleepytime) but I've just seen the 
> > Zombieland commercial and while it looked funny, It made me ask this 
> > question all over again. What is up with zombies? Why are people fascinated 
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[scifinoir2] The Commander-in-Chief speaks his piece regarding Kanye...

[Martin Baxter]

Short, sweet and to the point...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32859148/ns/politics-white_house?GT1=43001

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik



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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?

[Martin Baxter]

I've heard that complaint on several fronts also.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: daikaij...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:09:07 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?















 





  The sad thing is even on video you couldn't even tell if her 
toe nudged the line. So for a judge to make that call and lead into match point 
was a headslapper.



The funny thing to me is hypocrisy of the "bad boy" of tennis John McEnroe and 
others.



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:

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> Understand that entirely. And, to add in a point that may weigh into her 
> thoughts, I remember watching Bjorn Borg's last match at Wimbledon. At one 
> point in the second set, I saw that the line judge on Borg's side of the 
> court was asleep. And I mean *snoring* asleep.

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> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

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> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

> From: daikaij...@...

> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:41 +

> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about 
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> more than you at the frakin' U.S. Open and she blew a gasket. For the line 
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> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:

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> > Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:00:48 -0400

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> > FaceBook * MySpace 

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> > Dime

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> > Coming November 2 from Phaze Books

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> > Imperfection

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> > A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.

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> > The People You Know, The Sex They Have

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> > ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008

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[scifinoir2] Re: OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?

[daikaiju66]

The sad thing is even on video you couldn't even tell if her toe nudged the 
line. So for a judge to make that call and lead into match point was a 
headslapper.

The funny thing to me is hypocrisy of the "bad boy" of tennis John McEnroe and 
others.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:
>
> 
> Understand that entirely. And, to add in a point that may weigh into her 
> thoughts, I remember watching Bjorn Borg's last match at Wimbledon. At one 
> point in the second set, I saw that the line judge on Borg's side of the 
> court was asleep. And I mean *snoring* asleep.
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> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
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> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?

[Martin Baxter]

Exactly right, Daryle. Guess I can brand myself one of the luckier people 
walking, to have had a mentor early on when my father left my life via divorce.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: dar...@darylelockhart.com
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:40:55 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?















 





  


You've glossed over one of the most important  parts of your own statement. 
Who, exactly, is Kanye West's mentor? As I said yesterday, when his mom died 
everybody said they understood, but they  didn't. When my  father died I threw 
myself into  my  work,  and became really good at it.  And I was a complete ass 
to people on a regular basis. Think Ari Gold, but being 22 years old. By the 
time I got a mentor,  I already had a reputation for cursing people out in 
public meetings. My  mentor showed me how to  be a professional. She also 
warned me to stop  trusting employers and to start my own shop,  even as a side 
hustle. I listened.  But without that  mentor's  influence,  I'd be bitter  and 
unemployed today. 
Kanye West has no family left except the entertainment business.  A cold 
business that  sucks the life out of you and leaves you naked on the pavement. 
A lot of people KNOW this and have turned their backs on him. At this point, 
ONLY someone of Jay Leno's stature and maturity can advise him. Sadly, there's 
nobody Black of that stature who'll talk to him.  
On Sep 15, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: Daryle, I agree.

But common sense and decorum also have to factor in at some point. Right now, 
there are four people living I'd like to eviscerate on live streaming video. 
What my mentors taught me in this life keep me from hopping on a plane to live 
that fantasy. Serena and Kanye should've had the same software installed.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: dar...@darylelockhart.com
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:26:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?

   

Serena and Kanye's cases are similar in that a Black person expressed emotion 
and a person reacted like someone was going to eat them. Not only  was Serena's 
foot  foul a wrong call, what she said was nothing  compared to  what  others,  
namely  one celebrated John McEnroe, has said over the course of a career. 
Additionally, critics of both  have said they  should have "stayed quiet" and 
"known their place".  This is a very dangerous trend that I will never be with. 
There is a time and place for everything, but entertainment,  even sports 
entertainment,  is a place for emotion and expression. 

On Sep 14, 2009, at 8:00 PM, Aubrey Leatherwood wrote: Anyone want to 
weigh in with thoughts on what the younger Williams daughter did Saturday at 
the US Open?

Aubrey Leatherwood
www.aubreyleatherwood.com
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?

[Martin Baxter]

Understand that entirely. And, to add in a point that may weigh into her 
thoughts, I remember watching Bjorn Borg's last match at Wimbledon. At one 
point in the second set, I saw that the line judge on Borg's side of the court 
was asleep. And I mean *snoring* asleep.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: daikaij...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:41 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?















 





  I think it was built up frustration on Serena's part. She's 
had a history of getting shafted by the officials in several big matches. Add 
that to the hostile atmosphere of seing your foreign opponent being cheered 
more than you at the frakin' U.S. Open and she blew a gasket. For the line 
judge to call a questionable foot fault at that stage of the match was 
unthinkable.



I'm not saying she was right...but I understand.



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:

>

> 

> As stupid as what Kanye did.

> 

> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

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> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

> From: aubrey.leatherw...@...

> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:00:48 -0400

> Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?

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> FaceBook * MySpace 

> Dime

> Coming November 2 from Phaze Books

> Imperfection

> A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.

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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Zombies

[Martin Baxter]

Slow or fast variety? Just curious.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: daikaij...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:43:33 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Zombies















 





  Zombies work as social commentary, the fear of contagion, a 
sign of the apocolypse, humanity stripped down to its hungry, animal core, etc. 
It's a wide open genre and there's more than enough room to have an interesting 
take on the subject without having to deconstruct it.



Personally, I love zombie stories and movies of various stripes. The only ones 
I don't like are the ones from Brian Keene and few others that feature 
intelligent zeds, those possessed by demons and the like. I like the Romero 
variety.



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "grayson.reyescole"  
wrote:

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> Seriously people, what is the fascination with them? I know I've been off 
> loop for awhile... that's what happens when you only have 36 hours in a day 
> (I double count what folks might call sleepytime) but I've just seen the 
> Zombieland commercial and while it looked funny, It made me ask this question 
> all over again. What is up with zombies? Why are people fascinated by them? 
> why are they such an enduring group of beasties?

> 

> --Grayson < who does not get zombies unless they are humorous >

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[scifinoir2] Re: Zombies

[daikaiju66]

Zombies work as social commentary, the fear of contagion, a sign of the 
apocolypse, humanity stripped down to its hungry, animal core, etc. It's a wide 
open genre and there's more than enough room to have an interesting take on the 
subject without having to deconstruct it.

Personally, I love zombie stories and movies of various stripes. The only ones 
I don't like are the ones from Brian Keene and few others that feature 
intelligent zeds, those possessed by demons and the like. I like the Romero 
variety.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "grayson.reyescole"  
wrote:
>
> Seriously people, what is the fascination with them? I know I've been off 
> loop for awhile... that's what happens when you only have 36 hours in a day 
> (I double count what folks might call sleepytime) but I've just seen the 
> Zombieland commercial and while it looked funny, It made me ask this question 
> all over again. What is up with zombies? Why are people fascinated by them? 
> why are they such an enduring group of beasties?
> 
> --Grayson < who does not get zombies unless they are humorous >
>

[scifinoir2] Re: OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?

[daikaiju66]

I think it was built up frustration on Serena's part. She's had a history of 
getting shafted by the officials in several big matches. Add that to the 
hostile atmosphere of seing your foreign opponent being cheered more than you 
at the frakin' U.S. Open and she blew a gasket. For the line judge to call a 
questionable foot fault at that stage of the match was unthinkable.

I'm not saying she was right...but I understand.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:
>
> 
> As stupid as what Kanye did.
> 
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: aubrey.leatherw...@...
> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:00:48 -0400
> Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?
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> Anyone want to weigh in with thoughts on what the younger Williams daughter 
> did Saturday at the US Open?
> 
> Aubrey Leatherwood
> www.aubreyleatherwood.com
> FaceBook * MySpace 
> Dime
> Coming November 2 from Phaze Books
> Imperfection
> A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
> The People You Know, The Sex They Have
> ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
> ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0
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Re: [scifinoir2] OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?

[Daryle Lockhart]

You've glossed over one of the most important  parts of your own  
statement. Who, exactly, is Kanye West's mentor? As I said yesterday,  
when his mom died everybody said they understood, but they  didn't.  
When my  father died I threw myself into  my  work,  and became  
really good at it.  And I was a complete ass to people on a regular  
basis. Think Ari Gold, but being 22 years old. By the time I got a  
mentor,  I already had a reputation for cursing people out in public  
meetings. My  mentor showed me how to  be a professional. She also  
warned me to stop  trusting employers and to start my own shop,  even  
as a side hustle. I listened.  But without that  mentor's   
influence,  I'd be bitter  and unemployed today.


Kanye West has no family left except the entertainment business.  A  
cold business that  sucks the life out of you and leaves you naked on  
the pavement. A lot of people KNOW this and have turned their backs  
on him. At this point, ONLY someone of Jay Leno's stature and  
maturity can advise him. Sadly, there's nobody Black of that stature  
who'll talk to him.


On Sep 15, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:


Daryle, I agree.

But common sense and decorum also have to factor in at some point.  
Right now, there are four people living I'd like to eviscerate on  
live streaming video. What my mentors taught me in this life keep  
me from hopping on a plane to live that fantasy. Serena and Kanye  
should've had the same software installed.


"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who  
in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: dar...@darylelockhart.com
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:26:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What  
about Serena?





Serena and Kanye's cases are similar in that a Black person  
expressed emotion and a person reacted like someone was going to  
eat them. Not only  was Serena's foot  foul a wrong call, what she  
said was nothing  compared to  what  others,  namely  one  
celebrated John McEnroe, has said over the course of a career.


Additionally, critics of both  have said they  should have "stayed  
quiet" and "known their place".  This is a very dangerous trend  
that I will never be with. There is a time and place for  
everything, but entertainment,  even sports entertainment,  is a  
place for emotion and expression.



On Sep 14, 2009, at 8:00 PM, Aubrey Leatherwood wrote:


Anyone want to weigh in with thoughts on what the younger Williams  
daughter did Saturday at the US Open?


Aubrey Leatherwood
www.aubreyleatherwood.com
FaceBook * MySpace
Dime
Coming November 2 from Phaze Books
Imperfection
A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
The People You Know, The Sex They Have
ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0







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Re: [scifinoir2] New Moon

[Mike Street]

Yeah I agree the Team Edward trailer is way better then the Team Jacob
trailer. Cause I was ready to pass New Moon by and let it be a DVD/Netflix
selection but now I want to see it.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Aubrey Leatherwood <
aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
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> I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I saw
> the first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted to
> read the books but, it's just not my thing I guess.
>
> I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action flick.
>
> Uhh... Go Team Jacob?
>
> *Aubrey Leatherwood
> *www.aubreyleatherwood.com
> FaceBook  * 
> MySpace
> Dime
> Coming November 2 from Phaze Books
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> A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
> *The People You Know, The Sex They 
> Have*
> ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
> ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0
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> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: ravena...@yahoo.com
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 +
> Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon
>
>Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV
> Video Music Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!). But it
> does look like hot fire.
>
> ~rave!
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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?

[Martin Baxter]

Daryle, I agree.

But common sense and decorum also have to factor in at some point. Right now, 
there are four people living I'd like to eviscerate on live streaming video. 
What my mentors taught me in this life keep me from hopping on a plane to live 
that fantasy. Serena and Kanye should've had the same software installed.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: dar...@darylelockhart.com
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:26:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?















 





  


Serena and Kanye's cases are similar in that a Black person expressed emotion 
and a person reacted like someone was going to eat them. Not only  was Serena's 
foot  foul a wrong call, what she said was nothing  compared to  what  others,  
namely  one celebrated John McEnroe, has said over the course of a career. 
Additionally, critics of both  have said they  should have "stayed quiet" and 
"known their place".  This is a very dangerous trend that I will never be with. 
There is a time and place for everything, but entertainment,  even sports 
entertainment,  is a place for emotion and expression. 

On Sep 14, 2009, at 8:00 PM, Aubrey Leatherwood wrote: Anyone want to 
weigh in with thoughts on what the younger Williams daughter did Saturday at 
the US Open?

Aubrey Leatherwood
www.aubreyleatherwood.com
FaceBook * MySpace 
Dime
Coming November 2 from Phaze Books
Imperfection
A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
The People You Know, The Sex They Have
ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0







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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?

[Martin Baxter]

As stupid as what Kanye did.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:00:48 -0400
Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: In all this talk about Kanye... What about Serena?















 





  


Anyone want to weigh in with thoughts on what the younger Williams daughter did 
Saturday at the US Open?

Aubrey Leatherwood
www.aubreyleatherwood.com
FaceBook * MySpace 
Dime
Coming November 2 from Phaze Books
Imperfection
A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
The People You Know, The Sex They Have
ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0







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RE: [scifinoir2] Zombies

[Martin Baxter]

Grayson,

In all of my stories (they're interlinking), I treat zombies as a misunderstood 
species, simply cursed by a disease to be undead and need sustenance, which 
happens to be human brains. One of my protagonists goes out of his way to save 
them, relocating them to other dimensions where they can feed freely. 
Admittedly, those dimensions are usually where his worst enemies abide...

Aside from that, I can't really answer the question. I used to try to apply the 
same question to the love of vampyr, but there's the romantic angle to them 
that doesn't factor in with zombies.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: grayson.reyesc...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:59:35 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Zombies















 





  Seriously people, what is the fascination with them? I know 
I've been off loop for awhile... that's what happens when you only have 36 
hours in a day (I double count what folks might call sleepytime) but I've just 
seen the Zombieland commercial and while it looked funny, It made me ask this 
question all over again. What is up with zombies? Why are people fascinated by 
them? why are they such an enduring group of beasties?



--Grayson < who does not get zombies unless they are humorous >





 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Twenty Dollars

[Martin Baxter]

Martin has left the building, because his laughter is causing a disturbance...

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com; scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:38:58 -0700
Subject: [scifinoir2] Twenty Dollars















 





  


TWENTY DOLLARS 

On their wedding night, the young bride approached her new husband and asked 
for $20.00 for their first lovemaking encounter. In his highly aroused state, 
her husband readily
 agreed.







  
This scenario was repeated each time they made love, for more than 30 years, 
with him thinking that it was a 
cute way for her to afford new clothes and 
other incidentals that she needed. 


Arriving home around noon one
 day, she was surprised to find her husband in a very drunken state.
During the next few minutes, he explained that his 
employer was going through a process of corporate 
downsizing, and he had been let go. It Was unlikely that, at the age of 59, 
he'd be able to find another position that paid anywhere near what he'd been 
earning, and therefore, they were financially ruined. 

Calmly, his wife handed him a bank book which showed more than thirty years of 
steady deposits and interest totaling nearly $1 million. Then she showed him 
certificates of deposits issued by the bank which were worth over $2 million, 
and informed him
 that they were one of the largest depositors in the bank. 

She explained that for the more than three decades she had 'charged' him for 
sex, 

these holdings had multiplied and these were the results of her savings and 
investments. 

Faced with evidence of cash and investments worth over $3 million, her husband 
was so astounded he
 could barely speak, but finally he found his voice and 
blurted out, 'If I'd had any idea what you were doing, I would have given you 
all my business!' 

That's when she shot him. 



  

 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment

[Martin Baxter]

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:57:50 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's 
Moment















 





  
Thanks, hopefully the new URL will deflect any suspicions of my 
activities.(Although one might wonder about the sanity of a 40+ man reading 
about the Care Bears!)

- Original Message -
From: "Martin Baxter" 
To: "SciFiNoir2" 
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:27:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's 
Moment







 





  


LMNAATWO!

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:23:29 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's 
Moment















 





  
Holy...!

Lessee...

Close.
"e"
right-click. 
Left click "Properties"
Tools - Internet Options - General - Browsing History.
"Delete". 
Cookies. Check. 
Temporary Internet Files. Check. 
History. Che--ah hell, check  ALL boxes!  
"Delete".
Delete again.
"Delete browsing history on exit".  Check
Close.

"Start".
Right-click
Left-click "Explore".
C:\Documents and Settings\Keith\Application Data
...\Macromedia - Delete all files
...\Media Player.  Delete all files.
...\Cookies. Yep, empty.

C:\Documents and Settings\Keith\Local Settings
...\History. Yep, empty
...\Temp.  Delete all.
...\Temporary Internet Files.  Delete all.

Recycle Bin. 
Right-click.  
left-click "Empty Recycle Bin".

Open.

www.carebears.com











- Original Message -
From: "Martin Baxter" 
To: "SciFiNoir2" 
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:40:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's 
Moment







 





  


(after googling Amber)

Good move, rave. 

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:16:47 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment















 





  I would send you my "Amber Rose" photo file but your wife 
wouldn't like it.



~rave!



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson  wrote:

>

> Who's Amber? 

> 

> - Original Message - 

> From: "Mike Street"  

> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:42:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 

> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Him and Amber where on the red carpet drinking from a bottle of henny. So I 
> knw he was going to act crazy. They kicked him out of the building. I'm glad 
> Beyonce gave her the mic to speak 

> 

> 

> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... > wrote: 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> One MTV reporter says he's on the Hennessey. Fool, it's such a waste of time 
> as you say. Who's going to hear anything he has to say if he acts like this? 

> and I don't care whether you like Swift or not, whether you think she should 
> have won or not. Hell, whether you think it's cause she's young, blonde and 
> white or not--this was out of 

> 

> 

> 

> - Original Message - 

> From: "Aubrey Leatherwood" < aubrey.leatherw...@... > 

> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:17:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 

> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Oh My God. I saw this tonight and called everyone I knew... "Did you see 
> Kanye? Dat fool don gon and ambushed another awards show. Did you see the 
> scared little white girl in the back? Poor Taylor Swift. I like that Romeo 
> and Juliet song." 

> 

> Dude and his cause? Really, I would have WANTED him to talk about healthcare, 
> to say that it has more to do with race and entitlement than healthcare. But 
> noo not Kanye. His cause is Beyonce, and Beyonce didn't need no help. 

> 

> Oh my goodness... Is it bad that I've watched it over and over again trying 
> to figure out just what substance that fellows on? 

> 

> Aubrey Leatherwood 

> www.aubreyleatherwood.com 

> FaceBook * MySpace 

> Dime 

> Coming November 2 from Phaze Books 

> Imperfection 

> A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect s

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment

[Martin Baxter]

(another standing ovation)

And, into this, the story that Kanye was on the first ep of "The Jay Leno Show" 
(he'd been scheduled well ahead of this). Jay asked him, point-blank, what his 
mother would've said about what he'd done.

Kanye almost broke down.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 01:12:11 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment















 





  
I'm not even close to doing a "Bill Cosby", whatever that means. And I have 
sensed some black folks irritated because Taylor Swift is a young blonde white 
girl. That has nothing to do with it for me. I think his behavior is just 
boorish and stupid.  One thing black people used to be able to count on was 
that we had good "home training", that our mamas and daddies taught us to act 
like we had some "sense".  When he did this to a group of white male singers a 
while back, I thought that was ridiculous. We have to be careful to avoid this 
near malicious pleasure at what we see as some black hero giving it back to 
Whitey. that ain't what this is about. 

You're way too focused on what's cool, what's hip, what's seen as edgy, what 
gets people press, at people's "rights". What you're missing is that the right 
of speech for you should not infringe upon the right of speech for me. Had 
Kanye presented and wanted to say that, I'd have still thought he was out of 
line, but okay, that his biz. Don't invite him back to speak. Had he said it in 
an interview later, his business. He he blogged or twittered it, fine. His biz. 

But this guy jumped up on stage and took the mic from another person, ruined 
her moment, and then proceeded to tell millions she didn't deserve it. That is 
out of line. You can't possibly tell me that in your life--personal, church, or 
business--if someone did that to you, you'd let it go as "their right to free 
speech".  You tellling me that everytime you made a presentation at work, got 
an honor, received praise from someone, that if someone jumped u and did you 
that way you'd be cool with it? The way I was raised, you want to say something 
you wait your turn. You act with decorum and common sense. And the way I grew 
up, when you physically Bogart your way into someone's space and face, it's a 
belligerent act that could start something. It's rude and stupid, no matter the 
gender, age, race, class, coolness, genius, standing, or rep of any of the 
principals involved.

As for comparing this to other governments, what of it? Boorish behavior is 
boorish behavior. And even then, you're getting it wrong. The Brits do a strong 
session where one person talks, another jumps up and responds, and on and on. 
The crowd yells and harumphs, and all, but the Parliamentarians don't jump up 
and wrestle the mic from each other. If they continue always speaking over each 
other, they're called to order.

I strongly think we need to step back from this rancor based on politics, 
ideology, class, and (what I'm hearing here) racial conflict, and remember what 
it is to "act like you got some sense".

Kanye is a black man raised by a black mom who I know taught him better. Were 
she still alive, I'm pretty sure she'd have been just as upset with his 
behavior as I am, no matter what color Swift had been.

- Original Message -
From: "Mr. Worf" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:57:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment







 





  I think that you are trying to do a Bill Cosby here. Frankly, 
he can do whatever the hell he wants short of shooting someone on stage. All 
press is good press. The subtext that I am reading here is "poor little white 
girl abused by the evil buck negro..." I have no sympathy for the rich rug rat 
at all nor do I like Kanye or his music. What I am defending is his right to 
say what he said. 


MTV is a joke, and a thin shadow of what it used to be. 

The US is very tame when comes to outbursts. Watch a UK Parliamentary meeting 
sometime. 


On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Keith Johnson  
wrote:






















so it's "mild", that still doesn't justify it! That's like say Joe Wilson 
calling Obama a liar is mild compared to the Southerner who beat a Northern 
Congressman unconscious in chambers (way back in the 1800s, arguing over 
slavery and states' rights).



I fear we are falling too far into "everyone's doing it", "I'm gonna yell 
louder than my opponent", "I'm hard so I gotta represent", "I don't like what 
you did so I can act rude" territory. 



- Original Message -
From: "Mr. Worf" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:30:17 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Moon

[Adrianne Brennan]

I was desperate!
~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
http://www.adriannebrennan.com
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html
Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Aubrey Leatherwood <
aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Wait... DRINKING doesn't make it better. Oh Adrianne!!!
>
> *Aubrey Leatherwood
> *www.aubreyleatherwood.com
> FaceBook  * 
> MySpace
> Dime
> Coming November 2 from Phaze Books
> *Imperfection* 
> A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
> *The People You Know, The Sex They 
> Have*
> ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
> ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:19:02 -0400
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Moon
>
>
>  A friend and I started a Masochists' Book Club where we began plowing
> through the series together cause as you know, misery loves company.
> We wanted to see if they were truly as horrible as people claimed.
>
> They were. And then some.
>
> From our adventures came the phrase "sparkly chagrin", coined from Meyer's
> over-fondness for the word chagrin and her sparkly, sparkly vampires.
>
> Oh holy hell.
>
> Anyhow, we're on Eclipse and it's just...painful, so painful. I've barely
> made it a quarter of the way through the book. I try drinking beforehand,
> but it's no use.
>
> Woe.
>
> ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com
> Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html
> Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html
> Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:15 AM, ravenadal  wrote:
>
> Yeah, but how do you really feel?
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan 
> wrote:
> >
> > I tried reading the books. They are WRETCHED. The only good thing in them
> is
> > Alice. Why couldn't she have been the main char instead of that whiny,
> > wretched, unlikable Bella?
> > UGH UGH UGH UGH UGH
> >
> > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
> > http://www.adriannebrennan.com
> > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:
> > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html
> > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
> > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html
> > Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
> > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Aubrey Leatherwood <
> > aubrey.leatherw...@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I
> saw
> > > the first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted
> to
> > > read the books but, it's just not my thing I guess.
> > >
> > > I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action
> flick.
> > >
> > > Uhh... Go Team Jacob?
> > >
> > > *Aubrey Leatherwood
> > > *www.aubreyleatherwood.com
> > > FaceBook  *
> MySpace
> > > Dime
> > > Coming November 2 from Phaze Books
> > > *Imperfection* 
> > > A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
> > > *The People You Know, The Sex They Have*<
> http://www.lyricalpress.com/the_people_you_know_the_sex_they_have.html>
> > > ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
> > > ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: ravena...@...
> > > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 +
> > > Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon
> > >
> > >Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV
> > > Video Music Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!).
> But it
> > > does look like hot fire.
> > >
> > > ~rave!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.<
> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/>
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> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> 
>
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment

[Martin Baxter]

rave, I feel that with you at face value, and that contrast, in and of itself, 
IMO, is another roadsign on the highway to Armageddon.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:02:41 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment















 





  Okay.  I lied. THIS is my last take on the Kanye West mess:



Kanye West spoiling the "moment" for a white girl is more controversial than 
Jack Black exhorting everyone in the audience to "hold hands and pray to 
Satan."  Only in America.



~(no)rave!



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal"  wrote:

>

> My last take on the Kanye West mess: it wasn't too long ago when a black man 
> would be lynched for having the temerity to step wise to a precious white 
> flower of the Confederacy.  That Mr. West can do so on national television 
> and live to tell about it is indisputable evidence of how far we have come.

> 

> As a character in my unpublished novel says, "What virtue is there in being 
> chaste when that is the only choice you have?"

> 

> ~(no)rave!

> 

> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson  wrote:

> >

> > I'm not even close to doing a "Bill Cosby", whatever that means. And I have 
> > sensed some black folks irritated because Taylor Swift is a young blonde 
> > white girl. That has nothing to do with it for me. I think his behavior is 
> > just boorish and stupid. One thing black people used to be able to count on 
> > was that we had good "home training", that our mamas and daddies taught us 
> > to act like we had some "sense". When he did this to a group of white male 
> > singers a while back, I thought that was ridiculous. We have to be careful 
> > to avoid this near malicious pleasure at what we see as some black hero 
> > giving it back to Whitey. that ain't what this is about. 

> > 

> > You're way too focused on what's cool, what's hip, what's seen as edgy, 
> > what gets people press, at people's "rights". What you're missing is that 
> > the right of speech for you should not infringe upon the right of speech 
> > for me. Had Kanye presented and wanted to say that, I'd have still thought 
> > he was out of line, but okay, that his biz. Don't invite him back to speak. 
> > Had he said it in an interview later, his business. He he blogged or 
> > twittered it, fine. His biz. 

> > 

> > But this guy jumped up on stage and took the mic from another person, 
> > ruined her moment, and then proceeded to tell millions she didn't deserve 
> > it. That is out of line. You can't possibly tell me that in your 
> > life--personal, church, or business--if someone did that to you, you'd let 
> > it go as "their right to free speech". You tellling me that everytime you 
> > made a presentation at work, got an honor, received praise from someone, 
> > that if someone jumped u and did you that way you'd be cool with it? The 
> > way I was raised, you want to say something you wait your turn. You act 
> > with decorum and common sense. And the way I grew up, when you physically 
> > Bogart your way into someone's space and face, it's a belligerent act that 
> > could start something. It's rude and stupid, no matter the gender, age, 
> > race, class, coolness, genius, standing, or rep of any of the principals 
> > involved. 

> > 

> > As for comparing this to other governments, what of it? Boorish behavior is 
> > boorish behavior. And even then, you're getting it wrong. The Brits do a 
> > strong session where one person talks, another jumps up and responds, and 
> > on and on. The crowd yells and harumphs, and all, but the Parliamentarians 
> > don't jump up and wrestle the mic from each other. If they continue always 
> > speaking over each other, they're called to order. 

> > 

> > I strongly think we need to step back from this rancor based on politics, 
> > ideology, class, and (what I'm hearing here) racial conflict, and remember 
> > what it is to "act like you got some sense". 

> > 

> > Kanye is a black man raised by a black mom who I know taught him better. 
> > Were she still alive, I'm pretty sure she'd have been just as upset with 
> > his behavior as I am, no matter what color Swift had been. 

> > 

> > - Original Message - 

> > From: "Mr. Worf"  

> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

> > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:57:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 

> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's 
> > Moment 

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > I think that you are trying to do a Bill Cosby here. Frankly, he can do 
> > whatever the hell he wants short of shooting someone on stage. All press is 
> > good press. The subtext that I am reading here is "poor little white girl 
> > abused by 

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: New Moon

[Aubrey Leatherwood]

Wait... DRINKING doesn't make it better. Oh Adrianne!!!

Aubrey Leatherwood
www.aubreyleatherwood.com
FaceBook * MySpace 
Dime
Coming November 2 from Phaze Books
Imperfection
A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
The People You Know, The Sex They Have
ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0






 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:19:02 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Moon

  



A friend and I started a Masochists' Book Club where we began plowing through 
the series together cause as you know, misery loves company.


We wanted to see if they were truly as horrible as people claimed.


They were. And then some.


>From our adventures came the phrase "sparkly chagrin", coined from Meyer's 
>over-fondness for the word chagrin and her sparkly, sparkly vampires.


Oh holy hell.


Anyhow, we're on Eclipse and it's just...painful, so painful. I've barely made 
it a quarter of the way through the book. I try drinking beforehand, but it's 
no use.


Woe.
~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
http://www.adriannebrennan.com
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:  
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html
Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath



On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:15 AM, ravenadal  wrote:

Yeah, but how do you really feel?

~rave!


--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan  
wrote:
>
> I tried reading the books. They are WRETCHED. The only good thing in them is
> Alice. Why couldn't she have been the main char instead of that whiny,
> wretched, unlikable Bella?
> UGH UGH UGH UGH UGH
>
> ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com
> Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html
> Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html
> Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Aubrey Leatherwood <

> aubrey.leatherw...@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I saw
> > the first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted to
> > read the books but, it's just not my thing I guess.
> >
> > I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action flick.
> >
> > Uhh... Go Team Jacob?
> >
> > *Aubrey Leatherwood
> > *www.aubreyleatherwood.com
> > FaceBook  * 
> > MySpace

> > Dime
> > Coming November 2 from Phaze Books
> > *Imperfection* 

> > A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
> > *The People You Know, The Sex They 
> > Have*

> > ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
> > ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > From: ravena...@...

> > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 +
> > Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon
> >
> >Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV
> > Video Music Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!). But it
> > does look like hot fire.
> >
> > ~rave!
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > now.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Moon

[Adrianne Brennan]

Morphine? Exstacy?
XD

~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
http://www.adriannebrennan.com
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html
Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> Adrianne, I don't think that there are drugs powerful enough to ease the
> agony.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:19:02 -0400
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Moon
>
>
>  A friend and I started a Masochists' Book Club where we began plowing
> through the series together cause as you know, misery loves company.
>
> We wanted to see if they were truly as horrible as people claimed.
>
> They were. And then some.
>
> From our adventures came the phrase "sparkly chagrin", coined from Meyer's
> over-fondness for the word chagrin and her sparkly, sparkly vampires.
>
> Oh holy hell.
>
> Anyhow, we're on Eclipse and it's just...painful, so painful. I've barely
> made it a quarter of the way through the book. I try drinking beforehand,
> but it's no use.
>
> Woe.
>
> ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com
> Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html
> Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html
> Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:15 AM, ravenadal  wrote:
>
> Yeah, but how do you really feel?
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan 
> wrote:
> >
> > I tried reading the books. They are WRETCHED. The only good thing in them
> is
> > Alice. Why couldn't she have been the main char instead of that whiny,
> > wretched, unlikable Bella?
> > UGH UGH UGH UGH UGH
> >
> > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
> > http://www.adriannebrennan.com
> > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:
> > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html
> > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
> > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html
> > Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
> > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Aubrey Leatherwood <
> > aubrey.leatherw...@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I
> saw
> > > the first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted
> to
> > > read the books but, it's just not my thing I guess.
> > >
> > > I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action
> flick.
> > >
> > > Uhh... Go Team Jacob?
> > >
> > > *Aubrey Leatherwood
> > > *www.aubreyleatherwood.com
> > > FaceBook  *
> MySpace
> > > Dime
> > > Coming November 2 from Phaze Books
> > > *Imperfection* 
> > > A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
> > > *The People You Know, The Sex They Have*<
> http://www.lyricalpress.com/the_people_you_know_the_sex_they_have.html>
> > > ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
> > > ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: ravena...@...
> > > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 +
> > > Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon
> > >
> > >Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV
> > > Video Music Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!).
> But it
> > > does look like hot fire.
> > >
> > > ~rave!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.<
> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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RE: [scifinoir2] New Moon

[Martin Baxter]

I'm not big on movie sequels at all, but here's one I'd greenlight...

Dracula himself, upon learning of the existence of this pack, decides that this 
isn't what he intended for vampyr to evolve into, and comes to town to clean 
house. 

Martin (smiling *way* too much at that)

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:02:10 -0400
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] New Moon















 





  


I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I saw the 
first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted to read the 
books but, it's just not my thing I guess.

 

I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action flick. 

 

Uhh... Go Team Jacob?

Aubrey Leatherwood
www.aubreyleatherwood.com
FaceBook * MySpace 
Dime
Coming November 2 from Phaze Books
Imperfection
A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
The People You Know, The Sex They Have
ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0






 



To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon

  



Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV Video Music 
Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!). But it does look like 
hot fire.

~rave!









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Re: [scifinoir2] New Moon

[Adrianne Brennan]

As an author of vampire novels, I FEEL YOUR PAIN. Trust me!
Every time someone actually asks me if they're like Twilight, my canned
response is "No, my books are very adult."

~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
http://www.adriannebrennan.com
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html
Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> Adrianne, I'm telling my fifteen-year-old niece that you said that...
>
> Honestly, you're right. They are nicely-bound pieces of sh*t, an immense
> downer for a guy like me who's been writing for most of his life, receiving
> praise from everyone who's ever read my stuff and encouraged to publish,
> only to be terrified by the Publishing Machine, while she churns out that
> stuff and gains worldwide acclaim.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:10:15 -0400
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Moon
>
>
>  I tried reading the books. They are WRETCHED. The only good thing in them
> is Alice. Why couldn't she have been the main char instead of that whiny,
> wretched, unlikable Bella?
>
> UGH UGH UGH UGH UGH
>
> ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com
> Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html
> Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html
> Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Aubrey Leatherwood <
> aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I saw
> the first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted to
> read the books but, it's just not my thing I guess.
>
> I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action flick.
>
> Uhh... Go Team Jacob?
>
> *Aubrey Leatherwood
> *www.aubreyleatherwood.com
> FaceBook  * 
> MySpace
> Dime
> Coming November 2 from Phaze Books
> *Imperfection* 
> A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
> *The People You Know, The Sex They 
> Have*
> ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
> ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: ravena...@yahoo.com
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 +
> Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon
>
>Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV
> Video Music Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!). But it
> does look like hot fire.
>
> ~rave!
>
>
>
> --
> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it 
> now.
>
>
>
>
> --
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>
> 
>

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: New Moon

[Martin Baxter]

Adrianne, I don't think that there are drugs powerful enough to ease the agony.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:19:02 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Moon















 





  A friend and I started a Masochists' Book Club where we began 
plowing through the series together cause as you know, misery loves company.

We wanted to see if they were truly as horrible as people claimed.


They were. And then some.
>From our adventures came the phrase "sparkly chagrin", coined from Meyer's 
>over-fondness for the word chagrin and her sparkly, sparkly vampires.


Oh holy hell.
Anyhow, we're on Eclipse and it's just...painful, so painful. I've barely made 
it a quarter of the way through the book. I try drinking beforehand, but it's 
no use.


Woe.~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
http://www.adriannebrennan.com
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:  
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html


Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath





On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:15 AM, ravenadal  wrote:


Yeah, but how do you really feel?



~rave!



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan  
wrote:

>

> I tried reading the books. They are WRETCHED. The only good thing in them is

> Alice. Why couldn't she have been the main char instead of that whiny,

> wretched, unlikable Bella?

> UGH UGH UGH UGH UGH

>

> ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~

> http://www.adriannebrennan.com

> Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:

> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html

> Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:

> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html

> Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:

> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath

>

>

> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Aubrey Leatherwood <

> aubrey.leatherw...@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I saw

> > the first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted to

> > read the books but, it's just not my thing I guess.

> >

> > I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action flick.

> >

> > Uhh... Go Team Jacob?

> >

> > *Aubrey Leatherwood

> > *www.aubreyleatherwood.com

> > FaceBook  * 
> > MySpace



> > Dime

> > Coming November 2 from Phaze Books

> > *Imperfection* 

> > A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.

> > *The People You Know, The Sex They 
> > Have*



> > ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008

> > ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

> > From: ravena...@...

> > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 +

> > Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon

> >

> >Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV

> > Video Music Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!). But it

> > does look like hot fire.

> >

> > ~rave!

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it 
> > now.

> >

> >

> >

>













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RE: [scifinoir2] New Moon

[Martin Baxter]

Adrianne, I'm telling my fifteen-year-old niece that you said that... 

Honestly, you're right. They are nicely-bound pieces of sh*t, an immense downer 
for a guy like me who's been writing for most of his life, receiving praise 
from everyone who's ever read my stuff and encouraged to publish, only to be 
terrified by the Publishing Machine, while she churns out that stuff and gains 
worldwide acclaim. 

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:10:15 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Moon















 





  I tried reading the books. They are WRETCHED. The only good 
thing in them is Alice. Why couldn't she have been the main char instead of 
that whiny, wretched, unlikable Bella?

UGH UGH UGH UGH UGH

~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
http://www.adriannebrennan.com
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:  
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html


Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath





On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Aubrey Leatherwood 
 wrote:



























I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I saw the 
first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted to read the 
books but, it's just not my thing I guess.

 

I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action flick. 

 

Uhh... Go Team Jacob?

Aubrey Leatherwood
www.aubreyleatherwood.com


FaceBook * MySpace 


Dime
Coming November 2 from Phaze Books
Imperfection


A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
The People You Know, The Sex They Have


ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0






 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 +


Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon

  



Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV Video Music 
Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!). But it does look like 
hot fire.

~rave!











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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Moon

[Adrianne Brennan]

A friend and I started a Masochists' Book Club where we began plowing
through the series together cause as you know, misery loves company.
We wanted to see if they were truly as horrible as people claimed.

They were. And then some.

>From our adventures came the phrase "sparkly chagrin", coined from Meyer's
over-fondness for the word chagrin and her sparkly, sparkly vampires.

Oh holy hell.

Anyhow, we're on Eclipse and it's just...painful, so painful. I've barely
made it a quarter of the way through the book. I try drinking beforehand,
but it's no use.

Woe.

~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
http://www.adriannebrennan.com
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html
Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:15 AM, ravenadal  wrote:

> Yeah, but how do you really feel?
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan 
> wrote:
> >
> > I tried reading the books. They are WRETCHED. The only good thing in them
> is
> > Alice. Why couldn't she have been the main char instead of that whiny,
> > wretched, unlikable Bella?
> > UGH UGH UGH UGH UGH
> >
> > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
> > http://www.adriannebrennan.com
> > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:
> > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html
> > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
> > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html
> > Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
> > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Aubrey Leatherwood <
> > aubrey.leatherw...@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I
> saw
> > > the first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted
> to
> > > read the books but, it's just not my thing I guess.
> > >
> > > I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action
> flick.
> > >
> > > Uhh... Go Team Jacob?
> > >
> > > *Aubrey Leatherwood
> > > *www.aubreyleatherwood.com
> > > FaceBook  *
> MySpace
> > > Dime
> > > Coming November 2 from Phaze Books
> > > *Imperfection* 
> > > A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
> > > *The People You Know, The Sex They Have*<
> http://www.lyricalpress.com/the_people_you_know_the_sex_they_have.html>
> > > ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
> > > ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: ravena...@...
> > > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 +
> > > Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon
> > >
> > >Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV
> > > Video Music Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!).
> But it
> > > does look like hot fire.
> > >
> > > ~rave!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.<
> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/>
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> > >
> > >
> >
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>
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[scifinoir2] Re: New Moon

[ravenadal]

Yeah, but how do you really feel?

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan  
wrote:
>
> I tried reading the books. They are WRETCHED. The only good thing in them is
> Alice. Why couldn't she have been the main char instead of that whiny,
> wretched, unlikable Bella?
> UGH UGH UGH UGH UGH
> 
> ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com
> Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html
> Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html
> Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Aubrey Leatherwood <
> aubrey.leatherw...@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I saw
> > the first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted to
> > read the books but, it's just not my thing I guess.
> >
> > I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action flick.
> >
> > Uhh... Go Team Jacob?
> >
> > *Aubrey Leatherwood
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> > A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
> > *The People You Know, The Sex They 
> > Have*
> > ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
> > ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > --
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > From: ravena...@...
> > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 +
> > Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon
> >
> >Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV
> > Video Music Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!). But it
> > does look like hot fire.
> >
> > ~rave!
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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> >
>

RE: [scifinoir2] New Moon

[Aubrey Leatherwood]

She *is* wretched and whiny, isn't she?

Aubrey Leatherwood
www.aubreyleatherwood.com
FaceBook * MySpace 
Dime
Coming November 2 from Phaze Books
Imperfection
A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
The People You Know, The Sex They Have
ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0






 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:10:15 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Moon

  



I tried reading the books. They are WRETCHED. The only good thing in them is 
Alice. Why couldn't she have been the main char instead of that whiny, 
wretched, unlikable Bella?


UGH UGH UGH UGH UGH
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On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Aubrey Leatherwood 
 wrote:




I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I saw the 
first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted to read the 
books but, it's just not my thing I guess.
 
I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action flick. 
 
Uhh... Go Team Jacob?

Aubrey Leatherwood
www.aubreyleatherwood.com
FaceBook * MySpace 
Dime
Coming November 2 from Phaze Books
Imperfection
A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
The People You Know, The Sex They Have
ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0






 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon

  



Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV Video Music 
Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!). But it does look like 
hot fire.

~rave!






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Re: [scifinoir2] New Moon

[Adrianne Brennan]

I tried reading the books. They are WRETCHED. The only good thing in them is
Alice. Why couldn't she have been the main char instead of that whiny,
wretched, unlikable Bella?
UGH UGH UGH UGH UGH

~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
http://www.adriannebrennan.com
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html
Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Aubrey Leatherwood <
aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I saw
> the first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted to
> read the books but, it's just not my thing I guess.
>
> I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action flick.
>
> Uhh... Go Team Jacob?
>
> *Aubrey Leatherwood
> *www.aubreyleatherwood.com
> FaceBook  * 
> MySpace
> Dime
> Coming November 2 from Phaze Books
> *Imperfection* 
> A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
> *The People You Know, The Sex They 
> Have*
> ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
> ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: ravena...@yahoo.com
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 +
> Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon
>
>Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV
> Video Music Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!). But it
> does look like hot fire.
>
> ~rave!
>
>
>
> --
> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it 
> now.
>
> 
>

RE: [scifinoir2] New Moon

[Aubrey Leatherwood]

I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I saw the 
first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted to read the 
books but, it's just not my thing I guess.

 

I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action flick. 

 

Uhh... Go Team Jacob?

Aubrey Leatherwood
www.aubreyleatherwood.com
FaceBook * MySpace 
Dime
Coming November 2 from Phaze Books
Imperfection
A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
The People You Know, The Sex They Have
ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0






 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon

  



Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV Video Music 
Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!). But it does look like 
hot fire.

~rave!









_
Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service.
http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/

[scifinoir2] Re: OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment

[ravenadal]

Okay.  I lied. THIS is my last take on the Kanye West mess:

Kanye West spoiling the "moment" for a white girl is more controversial than 
Jack Black exhorting everyone in the audience to "hold hands and pray to 
Satan."  Only in America.

~(no)rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal"  wrote:
>
> My last take on the Kanye West mess: it wasn't too long ago when a black man 
> would be lynched for having the temerity to step wise to a precious white 
> flower of the Confederacy.  That Mr. West can do so on national television 
> and live to tell about it is indisputable evidence of how far we have come.
> 
> As a character in my unpublished novel says, "What virtue is there in being 
> chaste when that is the only choice you have?"
> 
> ~(no)rave!
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson  wrote:
> >
> > I'm not even close to doing a "Bill Cosby", whatever that means. And I have 
> > sensed some black folks irritated because Taylor Swift is a young blonde 
> > white girl. That has nothing to do with it for me. I think his behavior is 
> > just boorish and stupid. One thing black people used to be able to count on 
> > was that we had good "home training", that our mamas and daddies taught us 
> > to act like we had some "sense". When he did this to a group of white male 
> > singers a while back, I thought that was ridiculous. We have to be careful 
> > to avoid this near malicious pleasure at what we see as some black hero 
> > giving it back to Whitey. that ain't what this is about. 
> > 
> > You're way too focused on what's cool, what's hip, what's seen as edgy, 
> > what gets people press, at people's "rights". What you're missing is that 
> > the right of speech for you should not infringe upon the right of speech 
> > for me. Had Kanye presented and wanted to say that, I'd have still thought 
> > he was out of line, but okay, that his biz. Don't invite him back to speak. 
> > Had he said it in an interview later, his business. He he blogged or 
> > twittered it, fine. His biz. 
> > 
> > But this guy jumped up on stage and took the mic from another person, 
> > ruined her moment, and then proceeded to tell millions she didn't deserve 
> > it. That is out of line. You can't possibly tell me that in your 
> > life--personal, church, or business--if someone did that to you, you'd let 
> > it go as "their right to free speech". You tellling me that everytime you 
> > made a presentation at work, got an honor, received praise from someone, 
> > that if someone jumped u and did you that way you'd be cool with it? The 
> > way I was raised, you want to say something you wait your turn. You act 
> > with decorum and common sense. And the way I grew up, when you physically 
> > Bogart your way into someone's space and face, it's a belligerent act that 
> > could start something. It's rude and stupid, no matter the gender, age, 
> > race, class, coolness, genius, standing, or rep of any of the principals 
> > involved. 
> > 
> > As for comparing this to other governments, what of it? Boorish behavior is 
> > boorish behavior. And even then, you're getting it wrong. The Brits do a 
> > strong session where one person talks, another jumps up and responds, and 
> > on and on. The crowd yells and harumphs, and all, but the Parliamentarians 
> > don't jump up and wrestle the mic from each other. If they continue always 
> > speaking over each other, they're called to order. 
> > 
> > I strongly think we need to step back from this rancor based on politics, 
> > ideology, class, and (what I'm hearing here) racial conflict, and remember 
> > what it is to "act like you got some sense". 
> > 
> > Kanye is a black man raised by a black mom who I know taught him better. 
> > Were she still alive, I'm pretty sure she'd have been just as upset with 
> > his behavior as I am, no matter what color Swift had been. 
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Mr. Worf"  
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:57:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's 
> > Moment 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I think that you are trying to do a Bill Cosby here. Frankly, he can do 
> > whatever the hell he wants short of shooting someone on stage. All press is 
> > good press. The subtext that I am reading here is "poor little white girl 
> > abused by the evil buck negro..." I have no sympathy for the rich rug rat 
> > at all nor do I like Kanye or his music. What I am defending is his right 
> > to say what he said. 
> > 
> > MTV is a joke, and a thin shadow of what it used to be. 
> > 
> > The US is very tame when comes to outbursts. Watch a UK Parliamentary 
> > meeting sometime. 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Keith Johnson < KeithBJohnson@ > wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > so it's "mild", that still doesn't justify it! That's like say Joe Wilson 
> > calling Obama a liar is 

[scifinoir2] New Moon

[ravenadal]

Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV Video Music 
Awards.  It almost makes me want to read the book (not!).  But it does look 
like hot fire.

~rave!