Re: [scifinoir2] Does DC and Marvel need a Special Victims Unit?

[Mr. Worf]

They did it on Law and Order SVU twice. The cop, and the DA were both
attacked. I think the cop was raped or close to it, and the DA was assaulted
about 3 yrs ago.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> So true. Thank goodness, in television nowadays, though, that kind of
> assault is diminishing in popularity. I remember in the soap world, the
> famous Luke and Laura love story was billed as one of the greatest of all
> time--despite the fact Luke was a former mob hitman who'd assaulter Laura
> earlier. Shows like Dynasty, where Blake Carrington did that to Crystal.
> Indeed, later there was a storyline where Crystal was replaced by a criminal
> lookalike, and Blake almost did the same to her! But he stopped himself,
> saying, "No, I ra**d you once before, I won't do it again". How noble! On
> the series "Hunter", Dee Dee McCall was assaulted once, and it was a big
> deal. A couple of years later, the writers said "Hey let's do that again!"
> The actress who played the character refused, saying she thought that was
> exploitation.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kelwyn" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:03:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Does DC and Marvel need a Special Victims Unit?
>
>
>
> http://io9.com/5363196/do-dc-and-marvel-need-a-special-victims-unit
>
> One of my pet peeves in all fiction but especially in television/soap opera
> fiction (where one would be hard-pressed to name a single major female
> character who has NOT been raped or date raped) is the near obligatory
> rape/redemption/go-on-with-your-life-as-if-nothing-happened arc.
>
> ~(no)rave!
>
>
>
> 
>



-- 
Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years!
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook

[Martin Baxter]

Keith, this is one more reason why I don't use my Facebook page, save for 
keeping in touch with some old friends from my early online years. You can hose 
around all the lies you like, and no one can pull them down.

No, she hasn't recanted. Too busy selling herself on the lecture circuit.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:50:40 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook















 





  
I actually have no comment on this--maybe because I'm too busy shuddering at 
this abuse of technology. And pondering anew how my fellow Americans can 
sometimes be so unrelentingly stupid in who and what they support.
And while I respect the emergence of the importance of social networking, I 
don't think we've come so far yet that we should let a person's Tweets or 
Facebook postings shape our opinions on national and international events and 
policy.

I mean, Palin lied on Facebook about death panels--or worse, she might have 
been stupid enough to *believe* that foolishness--and waited five days to say 
something about that stance (and this article unfortunately doesn't say what 
she said. Did she recant?)

And the conservatives were worried about Obama's nefarious programming of the 
kiddies. I'm more afraid of the tens of thousands of Followers reproducing ,and 
then educating their progeny. Still,  perhaps there's hope. If the likes of Ari 
Fleischer (who I can't abide) sees through her questionable veneer of charm, 
maybe there are a few brain cells yet working in America.

Okay, so maybe I did have a comment or two!  :)

**
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090919/pl_politico/27344
Palin emerges as Facebook phenom
Since resigning her post as governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin
has essentially gone dark, making almost no public appearances and
successfully avoiding the media outlets that are clamoring to talk to
her. 

But that doesn’t mean Palin has been quiet. 




Relying
almost exclusively on social media to get her message out, Palin has
managed to carve out her own high-profile place in the national health care 
debate, on energy policy and on tort reform. 

While
Palin isn’t the only major political figure to try alternative means of
communication to bypass the media, her unique ability to remain in the
headlines while avoiding the spotlight suggests she may be the first to
pull it off successfully. 




For several days in August, the national health care debate 
turned to focus on so-called “death panels,” in large part because of two 
widely-publicized Palin Facebook posts accusing Democratic authors of the House 
proposal of creating bureaucratic entities to decide end of life care. 

The post was immediately rebuked by Democrats, and even by some 
Republicans,
as untrue and irresponsible. But rather than immediately firing back at
her critics when reporters came calling for a response, or issuing a
press release defending her claim, Palin waited five days to post her
response on Facebook. 




The post, simply titled
“concerning the ‘death panels,’” went up shortly before midnight on a
Wednesday night. By late Thursday morning, a write up of her statement
was on the homepage of dozens of national and local newspapers. The
post also quickly became one of the most mentioned topics within the
political blogosphere. 

“I can’t answer what her strategy is, but I can say that it’s 
working,” said GOP strategist Mary Matalin. “A large issue of why this works is 
that she has been so demonized and made fun of by the mainstream press.” 

With more than 850,000 “friends” following her every statement 
closely on Facebook, Palin trails only President Barack Obama as the most 
popular politician on the site. And when Palin ended her Twitter feed after 
resigning as governor, close to 140,000 people were following her—again, second 
only to Obama. 




“It’s
the most passive form of communication there is, it’s only effective if
people are dying to go to your Facebook page,” noted Marjorie
Dannenfelser, the president of the Susan B. Anthony List, an
organization designed to advance pro-life women in politics, and
co-founder of Team Sarah, a network of Palin supporters. “She’s got
this quality that Howard Dean had in terms of the completely organic liberal 
movement he tapped into.” 




Former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer,
a media strategist who does not count himself as a Palin supporter,
said the former Alaska governor’s style and appeal lends itself to the
online medium. 

“Facebook is pe

RE: [scifinoir2] Does DC and Marvel need a Special Victims Unit?

[Martin Baxter]

Exactly, Mr Worf. And, in the case of Olivia Benson (the cop) in the storyline, 
she herself is a child of rape.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 02:05:01 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Does DC and Marvel need a Special Victims Unit?















 





  They did it on Law and Order SVU twice. The cop, and the DA 
were both attacked. I think the cop was raped or close to it, and the DA was 
assaulted about 3 yrs ago. 


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Keith Johnson  
wrote:





















So true. Thank goodness, in television nowadays, though, that kind of
assault is diminishing in popularity. I remember in the soap world, the
famous Luke and Laura love story was billed as one of the greatest of
all time--despite the fact Luke was a former mob hitman who'd assaulter
Laura earlier. Shows like Dynasty, where Blake Carrington did that to
Crystal. Indeed, later there was a storyline where Crystal was replaced
by a criminal lookalike, and Blake almost did the same to her! But he
stopped himself, saying, "No, I ra**d you once before, I won't do it
again". How noble! On the series "Hunter", Dee Dee McCall was assaulted once, 
and it was a big deal. A couple of years later, the writers said "Hey let's do 
that again!" The actress who played the character refused, saying she thought 
that was exploitation.




- Original Message -
From: "Kelwyn" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:03:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] Does DC and Marvel need a Special Victims Unit?







 





  
http://io9.com/5363196/do-dc-and-marvel-need-a-special-victims-unit



One of my pet peeves in all fiction but especially in television/soap opera 
fiction (where one would be hard-pressed to name a single major female 
character who has NOT been raped or date raped) is the near obligatory 
rape/redemption/go-on-with-your-life-as-if-nothing-happened arc.




~(no)rave!  





 

  






























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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook

[Martin Baxter]

Fortunately, Mr Worf, that's just for Republicans in Jersey. If we have any 
members there, we can extract them quietly in the night and build an 
electrified fence to keep the nutjobs pent.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:12:15 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook















 





  I think a lot of it has to do with the republicans using the 
distrust of the media to their advantage. It is something that has been gaining 
momentum since regan was in office. He would make a sly comment or gesture as 
if it were an inside joke. Now we have the same thing going on and it is 
gaining momentum. I was just listening to the radio and they said in a recent 
poll that 15% of republicans actually believe that Obama is the anti-christ. 
WTF??? Are they passing out crack at these townhall meetings or what?



On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Keith Johnson  
wrote:





















I actually have no comment on this--maybe because I'm too busy shuddering at 
this abuse of technology. And pondering anew how my fellow Americans can 
sometimes be so unrelentingly stupid in who and what they support.

And while I respect the emergence of the importance of social networking, I 
don't think we've come so far yet that we should let a person's Tweets or 
Facebook postings shape our opinions on national and international events and 
policy.


I mean, Palin lied on Facebook about death panels--or worse, she might have 
been stupid enough to *believe* that foolishness--and waited five days to say 
something about that stance (and this article unfortunately doesn't say what 
she said. Did she recant?)


And the conservatives were worried about Obama's nefarious programming of the 
kiddies. I'm more afraid of the tens of thousands of Followers reproducing ,and 
then educating their progeny. Still,  perhaps there's hope. If the likes of Ari 
Fleischer (who I can't abide) sees through her questionable veneer of charm, 
maybe there are a few brain cells yet working in America.


Okay, so maybe I did have a comment or two!  :)

**
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090919/pl_politico/27344

Palin emerges as Facebook phenom
Since resigning her post as governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin
has essentially gone dark, making almost no public appearances and
successfully avoiding the media outlets that are clamoring to talk to
her. 

But that doesn’t mean Palin has been quiet. 




Relying
almost exclusively on social media to get her message out, Palin has
managed to carve out her own high-profile place in the national health care 
debate, on energy policy and on tort reform. 


While
Palin isn’t the only major political figure to try alternative means of
communication to bypass the media, her unique ability to remain in the
headlines while avoiding the spotlight suggests she may be the first to
pull it off successfully. 




For several days in August, the national health care debate 
turned to focus on so-called “death panels,” in large part because of two 
widely-publicized Palin Facebook posts accusing Democratic authors of the House 
proposal of creating bureaucratic entities to decide end of life care. 


The post was immediately rebuked by Democrats, and even by some 
Republicans,
as untrue and irresponsible. But rather than immediately firing back at
her critics when reporters came calling for a response, or issuing a
press release defending her claim, Palin waited five days to post her
response on Facebook. 




The post, simply titled
“concerning the ‘death panels,’” went up shortly before midnight on a
Wednesday night. By late Thursday morning, a write up of her statement
was on the homepage of dozens of national and local newspapers. The
post also quickly became one of the most mentioned topics within the
political blogosphere. 

“I can’t answer what her strategy is, but I can say that it’s 
working,” said GOP strategist Mary Matalin. “A large issue of why this works is 
that she has been so demonized and made fun of by the mainstream press.” 


With more than 850,000 “friends” following her every statement 
closely on Facebook, Palin trails only President Barack Obama as the most 
popular politician on the site. And when Palin ended her Twitter feed after 
resigning as governor, close to 140,000 people were following her—again, second 
only to Obama. 





“It’s
the most passive form of communication there is, it’s only effective if
people are dying to go to your Facebook page,” noted Marjorie
Dannenfelser, the president of the S

[scifinoir2] Re: "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care?

[B Smith]

Not to wear this out but I don't think District 9 was racist because the 
Nigerian issue crosses color lines. It's not fair to but as other folks have 
stated the perception is a common one in South Africa. I think nearly all of 
the humans with the exception of Wikus' assistant came off horribly.

Back to the subject at hand. I agree with Martin, a lot of people can't get 
past the trappings of sci-fi to get to the meat of it. The sad thing is a lot 
of fans can't get past their own "tribalism" to enjoy something outside their 
own comfort zone. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson  wrote:
>
> It may get watered down here and there, especially in America. But there's 
> always good fare from countries like the UK and --despite its racist 
> angle--"District 9". We have the great Mexican directors like Del Toro and 
> Cuaran (sp?). I do think american scifi is a bit weaker in terms of more of a 
> focus on lighthearted fare, or focus on action and CGI, but hopefully it'll 
> cycle back around again... 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mr. Worf"  
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 5:27:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> This brings up a question that I heard on the radio last night. Is scifi 
> dying? Has writers in modern times forgotten what really makes scifi tick is 
> not a dependence on gadgets or powers but the story behind it. 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Martin Baxter < truthseeker...@... > wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Honestly, Keith, not a whit. I even change the channel if I fall across a 
> commercial for the show. I'll probably begin watching it in two years, when 
> it lands in syndication, just to see if I actually missed anything. Which I 
> doubt'll be the case. 
> 
> 
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> From: keithbjohn...@... 
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:57:41 + 
> Subject: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I have to admit, I missed all of last season. A lot of the buzz I heard about 
> it from all over the place, though, was that "Heroes" wasn't very good. Some 
> say it was okay, better than the abbreviated season two, but nowhere nearly 
> as good as the debut season. Others--and that's a lot of folks--have said 
> it's just no longer a good show at all. 
> What do y'all say? Anyone here still faithfully watching? If so, what are 
> your thoughts on the show to date? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bing brings you health info from trusted sources. Try it now! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! 
> Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
>

[scifinoir2] Re: OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook

[B Smith]

That's an interesting turn of phrase. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:
>
> 
> Keith, this is one more reason why I don't use my Facebook page, save for 
> keeping in touch with some old friends from my early online years. You can 
> hose around all the lies you like, and no one can pull them down.
> 
> No, she hasn't recanted. Too busy selling herself on the lecture circuit.
> 
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: keithbjohn...@...
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:50:40 +
> Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> I actually have no comment on this--maybe because I'm too busy shuddering at 
> this abuse of technology. And pondering anew how my fellow Americans can 
> sometimes be so unrelentingly stupid in who and what they support.
> And while I respect the emergence of the importance of social networking, I 
> don't think we've come so far yet that we should let a person's Tweets or 
> Facebook postings shape our opinions on national and international events and 
> policy.
> 
> I mean, Palin lied on Facebook about death panels--or worse, she might have 
> been stupid enough to *believe* that foolishness--and waited five days to say 
> something about that stance (and this article unfortunately doesn't say what 
> she said. Did she recant?)
> 
> And the conservatives were worried about Obama's nefarious programming of the 
> kiddies. I'm more afraid of the tens of thousands of Followers reproducing 
> ,and then educating their progeny. Still,  perhaps there's hope. If the likes 
> of Ari Fleischer (who I can't abide) sees through her questionable veneer of 
> charm, maybe there are a few brain cells yet working in America.
> 
> Okay, so maybe I did have a comment or two!  :)
> 
> **
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090919/pl_politico/27344
> Palin emerges as Facebook phenom
> Since resigning her post as governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin
> has essentially gone dark, making almost no public appearances and
> successfully avoiding the media outlets that are clamoring to talk to
> her. 
> 
> But that doesn't mean Palin has been quiet. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Relying
> almost exclusively on social media to get her message out, Palin has
> managed to carve out her own high-profile place in the national health care 
> debate, on energy policy and on tort reform. 
> 
> While
> Palin isn't the only major political figure to try alternative means of
> communication to bypass the media, her unique ability to remain in the
> headlines while avoiding the spotlight suggests she may be the first to
> pull it off successfully. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> For several days in August, the national health care debate 
> turned to focus on so-called "death panels," in large part because of two 
> widely-publicized Palin Facebook posts accusing Democratic authors of the 
> House proposal of creating bureaucratic entities to decide end of life care. 
> 
> The post was immediately rebuked by Democrats, and even by 
> some Republicans,
> as untrue and irresponsible. But rather than immediately firing back at
> her critics when reporters came calling for a response, or issuing a
> press release defending her claim, Palin waited five days to post her
> response on Facebook. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The post, simply titled
> "concerning the `death panels,'" went up shortly before midnight on a
> Wednesday night. By late Thursday morning, a write up of her statement
> was on the homepage of dozens of national and local newspapers. The
> post also quickly became one of the most mentioned topics within the
> political blogosphere. 
> 
> "I can't answer what her strategy is, but I can say that it's 
> working," said GOP strategist Mary Matalin. "A large issue of why this works 
> is that she has been so demonized and made fun of by the mainstream press." 
> 
> With more than 850,000 "friends" following her every 
> statement closely on Facebook, Palin trails only President Barack Obama as 
> the most popular politician on the site. And when Palin ended her Twitter 
> feed after resigning as governor, close to 140,000 people were following 
> her—again, second only to Obama. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "It's
> the most passive form of communication there is, it's only effective if
> people are dying to go to your Facebook page," noted Marjorie
> Dannenfelser, the president of the Susan B. Anthony List, an
> organization designed to advance pro-life women in politics, and
> co-founder of Team Sarah, a network of Palin supporters. "She's got
> this qual

[scifinoir2] Re: "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care?

[B Smith]

BTW that is no endorsement for Heroes. It's gotten really pedestrian and like 
others have said Sylar is the best thing about the show.

I think they need to read more comics so they can "borrow" better plot lines. 
Although it looks like the writers decided to throw in a little Carnivale vibe 
this season.

My old Tivo box died so I had to swap it out for a different box in another 
room during the show so I didn't see the entire episode. What I saw still 
suffered from the problems they've always had. Too much Hiro and Ando, Claire 
being Claire, killing off one big bad to establish the next one, etc.  

I'll rewatch the episode on G4 and see if my initial take was off but for now 
I've taken it off my DVR schedule.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "B Smith"  wrote:
>
> Not to wear this out but I don't think District 9 was racist because the 
> Nigerian issue crosses color lines. It's not fair to but as other folks have 
> stated the perception is a common one in South Africa. I think nearly all of 
> the humans with the exception of Wikus' assistant came off horribly.
> 
> Back to the subject at hand. I agree with Martin, a lot of people can't get 
> past the trappings of sci-fi to get to the meat of it. The sad thing is a lot 
> of fans can't get past their own "tribalism" to enjoy something outside their 
> own comfort zone. 
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson  wrote:
> >
> > It may get watered down here and there, especially in America. But there's 
> > always good fare from countries like the UK and --despite its racist 
> > angle--"District 9". We have the great Mexican directors like Del Toro and 
> > Cuaran (sp?). I do think american scifi is a bit weaker in terms of more of 
> > a focus on lighthearted fare, or focus on action and CGI, but hopefully 
> > it'll cycle back around again... 
> > 
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Mr. Worf"  
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 5:27:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > This brings up a question that I heard on the radio last night. Is scifi 
> > dying? Has writers in modern times forgotten what really makes scifi tick 
> > is not a dependence on gadgets or powers but the story behind it. 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Martin Baxter < truthseeker013@ > wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Honestly, Keith, not a whit. I even change the channel if I fall across a 
> > commercial for the show. I'll probably begin watching it in two years, when 
> > it lands in syndication, just to see if I actually missed anything. Which I 
> > doubt'll be the case. 
> > 
> > 
> > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in 
> > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> > From: KeithBJohnson@ 
> > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:57:41 + 
> > Subject: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I have to admit, I missed all of last season. A lot of the buzz I heard 
> > about it from all over the place, though, was that "Heroes" wasn't very 
> > good. Some say it was okay, better than the abbreviated season two, but 
> > nowhere nearly as good as the debut season. Others--and that's a lot of 
> > folks--have said it's just no longer a good show at all. 
> > What do y'all say? Anyone here still faithfully watching? If so, what are 
> > your thoughts on the show to date? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Bing brings you health info from trusted sources. Try it now! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! 
> > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
> >
>

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook

[Keith Johnson]

there's always been the fringe, and the not-so-fringe bigots. The more 
communications methods we have, the more they're able to disseminate 
information and reinforce each other's views 


- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Worf"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:12:15 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook 

  




I think a lot of it has to do with the republicans using the distrust of the 
media to their advantage. It is something that has been gaining momentum since 
regan was in office. He would make a sly comment or gesture as if it were an 
inside joke. Now we have the same thing going on and it is gaining momentum. I 
was just listening to the radio and they said in a recent poll that 15% of 
republicans actually believe that Obama is the anti-christ. WTF??? Are they 
passing out crack at these townhall meetings or what? 


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 






I actually have no comment on this--maybe because I'm too busy shuddering at 
this abuse of technology. And pondering anew how my fellow Americans can 
sometimes be so unrelentingly stupid in who and what they support. 
And while I respect the emergence of the importance of social networking, I 
don't think we've come so far yet that we should let a person's Tweets or 
Facebook postings shape our opinions on national and international events and 
policy. 

I mean, Palin lied on Facebook about death panels--or worse, she might have 
been stupid enough to *believe* that foolishness--and waited five days to say 
something about that stance (and this article unfortunately doesn't say what 
she said. Did she recant?) 

And the conservatives were worried about Obama's nefarious programming of the 
kiddies. I'm more afraid of the tens of thousands of Followers reproducing ,and 
then educating their progeny. Still,  perhaps there's hope. If the likes of Ari 
Fleischer (who I can't abide) sees through her questionable veneer of charm, 
maybe there are a few brain cells yet working in America. 

Okay, so maybe I did have a comment or two!  :) 

** 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090919/pl_politico/27344 
Palin emerges as Facebook phenom 


Since resigning her post as governor of Alaska , Sarah Palin has essentially 
gone dark, making almost no public appearances and successfully avoiding the 
media outlets that are clamoring to talk to her. 

But that doesn’t mean Palin has been quiet. 





Relying almost exclusively on social media to get her message out, Palin has 
managed to carve out her own high-profile place in the national health care 
debate, on energy policy and on tort reform . 

While Palin isn’t the only major political figure to try alternative means of 
communication to bypass the media, her unique ability to remain in the 
headlines while avoiding the spotlight suggests she may be the first to pull it 
off successfully. 





For several days in August, the national health care debate turned to focus on 
so-called “death panels,” in large part because of two widely-publicized Palin 
Facebook posts accusing Democratic authors of the House proposal of creating 
bureaucratic entities to decide end of life care . 

The post was immediately rebuked by Democrats, and even by some Republicans , 
as untrue and irresponsible. But rather than immediately firing back at her 
critics when reporters came calling for a response, or issuing a press release 
defending her claim, Palin waited five days to post her response on Facebook. 





The post, simply titled “concerning the ‘death panels,’” went up shortly before 
midnight on a Wednesday night. By late Thursday morning, a write up of her 
statement was on the homepage of dozens of national and local newspapers. The 
post also quickly became one of the most mentioned topics within the political 
blogosphere. 

“I can’t answer what her strategy is, but I can say that it’s working,” said 
GOP strategist Mary Matalin . “A large issue of why this works is that she has 
been so demonized and made fun of by the mainstream press.” 

With more than 850,000 “friends” following her every statement closely on 
Facebook , Palin trails only President Barack Obama as the most popular 
politician on the site. And when Palin ended her Twitter feed after resigning 
as governor, close to 140,000 people were following her—again, second only to 
Obama. 





“It’s the most passive form of communication there is, it’s only effective if 
people are dying to go to your Facebook page,” noted Marjorie Dannenfelser, the 
president of the Susan B. Anthony List, an organization designed to advance 
pro-life women in politics, and co-founder of Team Sarah, a network of Palin 
supporters. “She’s got this quality that Howard Dean had in terms of the 
completely organic liberal movement he tapped into

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook

[Keith Johnson]

Pitiful. 


- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Baxter"  
To: "SciFiNoir2"  
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:09:02 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook 

  




Keith, this is one more reason why I don't use my Facebook page, save for 
keeping in touch with some old friends from my early online years. You can hose 
around all the lies you like, and no one can pull them down. 

No, she hasn't recanted. Too busy selling herself on the lecture circuit. 

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:50:40 + 
Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook 

  




I actually have no comment on this--maybe because I'm too busy shuddering at 
this abuse of technology. And pondering anew how my fellow Americans can 
sometimes be so unrelentingly stupid in who and what they support. 
And while I respect the emergence of the importance of social networking, I 
don't think we've come so far yet that we should let a person's Tweets or 
Facebook postings shape our opinions on national and international events and 
policy. 

I mean, Palin lied on Facebook about death panels--or worse, she might have 
been stupid enough to *believe* that foolishness--and waited five days to say 
something about that stance (and this article unfortunately doesn't say what 
she said. Did she recant?) 

And the conservatives were worried about Obama's nefarious programming of the 
kiddies. I'm more afraid of the tens of thousands of Followers reproducing ,and 
then educating their progeny. Still,  perhaps there's hope. If the likes of Ari 
Fleischer (who I can't abide) sees through her questionable veneer of charm, 
maybe there are a few brain cells yet working in America. 

Okay, so maybe I did have a comment or two!  :) 

** 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090919/pl_politico/27344 
Palin emerges as Facebook phenom 
Since resigning her post as governor of Alaska , Sarah Palin has essentially 
gone dark, making almost no public appearances and successfully avoiding the 
media outlets that are clamoring to talk to her. 
But that doesn’t mean Palin has been quiet. 



Relying almost exclusively on social media to get her message out, Palin has 
managed to carve out her own high-profile place in the national health care 
debate, on energy policy and on tort reform . 
While Palin isn’t the only major political figure to try alternative means of 
communication to bypass the media, her unique ability to remain in the 
headlines while avoiding the spotlight suggests she may be the first to pull it 
off successfully. 



For several days in August, the national health care debate turned to focus on 
so-called “death panels,” in large part because of two widely-publicized Palin 
Facebook posts accusing Democratic authors of the House proposal of creating 
bureaucratic entities to decide end of life care . 
The post was immediately rebuked by Democrats, and even by some Republicans , 
as untrue and irresponsible. But rather than immediately firing back at her 
critics when reporters came calling for a response, or issuing a press release 
defending her claim, Palin waited five days to post her response on Facebook. 



The post, simply titled “concerning the ‘death panels,’” went up shortly before 
midnight on a Wednesday night. By late Thursday morning, a write up of her 
statement was on the homepage of dozens of national and local newspapers. The 
post also quickly became one of the most mentioned topics within the political 
blogosphere. 
“I can’t answer what her strategy is, but I can say that it’s working,” said 
GOP strategist Mary Matalin . “A large issue of why this works is that she has 
been so demonized and made fun of by the mainstream press.” 
With more than 850,000 “friends” following her every statement closely on 
Facebook , Palin trails only President Barack Obama as the most popular 
politician on the site. And when Palin ended her Twitter feed after resigning 
as governor, close to 140,000 people were following her—again, second only to 
Obama. 



“It’s the most passive form of communication there is, it’s only effective if 
people are dying to go to your Facebook page,” noted Marjorie Dannenfelser, the 
president of the Susan B. Anthony List, an organization designed to advance 
pro-life women in politics, and co-founder of Team Sarah, a network of Palin 
supporters. “She’s got this quality that Howard Dean had in terms of the 
completely organic liberal movement he tapped into.” 



Former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer , a media strategist who does 
not count himself as a Palin supporter, said the former Alaska governor’s style 
and appeal le

Re: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care?

[wlrouge]

I watched it last night or tried to due to the weather. My only problem in the 
show is there is no other enemy then Sylar. To me it makes it real boring when 
you are only dealing with him. From the looks of it he can't be killed he can't 
be stop so then all he really needs to do is kill everyone one by one. Also 
don't get me wrong, I like Claire. I think she is great and all but lets get 
real. Get her out of school or college because she is never going to stop 
trying to kill herself to see how far she can go. Perhaps what needs to happen 
is someone needs to help Hero got back in time, kill baby Sylar and that would 
solve a host of problems. I think the guy that plays him is cute but for me it 
is time to move on. Also one more thing, Peter you are hero...stop fighting it.
--Lavender


From: Keith Johnson 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:57 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care?





I have to admit, I missed all of last season. A lot of the buzz I heard about 
it from all over the place, though, was that "Heroes" wasn't very good. Some 
say it was okay, better than the abbreviated season two, but nowhere nearly as 
good as the debut season. Others--and that's a lot of folks--have said it's 
just no longer a good show at all.

What do y'all say? Anyone here still faithfully watching? If so, what are your 
thoughts on the show to date?

RE: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care?

[Martin Baxter]

Lavendar, Hiro would never do that, not even for the greater good. He's the 
Classical Geek, believes that he has his powers to do good.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: wlro...@aol.com
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:14:44 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care?















 





  



I watched it last night or tried to due to the 
weather. My only problem in the show is there is no other enemy then Sylar. To 
me it makes it real boring when you are only dealing with him. From the looks 
of 
it he can't be killed he can't be stop so then all he really needs to do is 
kill 
everyone one by one. Also don't get me wrong, I like Claire. I think she is 
great and all but lets get real. Get her out of school or college because she 
is 
never going to stop trying to kill herself to see how far she can go. Perhaps 
what needs to happen is someone needs to help Hero got back in time, kill baby 
Sylar and that would solve a host of problems. I think the guy that plays him 
is 
cute but for me it is time to move on. Also one more thing, Peter you are 
hero...stop fighting it.
--Lavender




From: Keith Johnson 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:57 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone 
Care?



I have to admit, I missed all of last season. A lot of the buzz I heard about 
it from all over the place, though, was that "Heroes" wasn't very good. Some 
say 
it was okay, better than the abbreviated season two, but nowhere nearly as good 
as the debut season. Others--and that's a lot of folks--have said it's just no 
longer a good show at all.

What do y'all say? Anyone here still faithfully watching? If so, what are 
your thoughts on the show to date?





 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook

[Martin Baxter]

And that's the scary side of the Information Age. Even the Nutjobs and the 
Truly Dangerous have the means to voice their First Amendment rights. And, as 
long as there's that element that refuses to think for itself, the Nutjobs and 
the Truly Dangerous have their audience. I fear that it may come down to 
violence before a resolution is sought.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:01:15 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook















 





  
there's always been the fringe, and the not-so-fringe bigots. The more 
communications methods we have, the more they're able to disseminate 
information and reinforce each other's views


- Original Message -
From: "Mr. Worf" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:12:15 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook



  




I think a lot of it has to do with the republicans using the distrust of the 
media to their advantage. It is something that has been gaining momentum since 
regan was in office. He would make a sly comment or gesture as if it were an 
inside joke. Now we have the same thing going on and it is gaining momentum. I 
was just listening to the radio and they said in a recent poll that 15% of 
republicans actually believe that Obama is the anti-christ. WTF??? Are they 
passing out crack at these townhall meetings or what?



On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Keith Johnson  
wrote:





I actually have no comment on this--maybe because I'm too busy shuddering at 
this abuse of technology. And pondering anew how my fellow Americans can 
sometimes be so unrelentingly stupid in who and what they support.
And while I respect the emergence of the importance of social networking, I 
don't think we've come so far yet that we should let a person's Tweets or 
Facebook postings shape our opinions on national and international events and 
policy.

I mean, Palin lied on Facebook about death panels--or worse, she might have 
been stupid enough to *believe* that foolishness--and waited five days to say 
something about that stance (and this article unfortunately doesn't say what 
she said. Did she recant?)

And the conservatives were worried about Obama's nefarious programming of the 
kiddies. I'm more afraid of the tens of thousands of Followers reproducing ,and 
then educating their progeny. Still,  perhaps there's hope. If the likes of Ari 
Fleischer (who I can't abide) sees through her questionable veneer of charm, 
maybe there are a few brain cells yet working in America.

Okay, so maybe I did have a comment or two!  :)

**
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090919/pl_politico/27344

Palin emerges as Facebook phenom
Since resigning her post as governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin has essentially 
gone dark, making almost no public appearances and successfully avoiding the 
media outlets that are clamoring to talk to her. 

But that doesn’t mean Palin has been quiet. 





Relying almost exclusively on social media to get her message out, Palin has 
managed to carve out her own high-profile place in the national health care 
debate, on energy policy and on tort reform. 

While Palin isn’t the only major political figure to try alternative means of 
communication to bypass the media, her unique ability to remain in the 
headlines while avoiding the spotlight suggests she may be the first to pull it 
off successfully. 





For several days in August, the national health care debate turned to focus on 
so-called “death panels,” in large part because of two widely-publicized Palin 
Facebook posts accusing Democratic authors of the House proposal of creating 
bureaucratic entities to decide end of life care. 

The post was immediately rebuked by Democrats, and even by some Republicans, as 
untrue and irresponsible. But rather than immediately firing back at her 
critics when reporters came calling for a response, or issuing a press release 
defending her claim, Palin waited five days to post her response on Facebook. 





The post, simply titled “concerning the ‘death panels,’” went up shortly before 
midnight on a Wednesday night. By late Thursday morning, a write up of her 
statement was on the homepage of dozens of national and local newspapers. The 
post also quickly became one of the most mentioned topics within the political 
blogosphere. 

“I can’t answer what her strategy is, but I can say that it’s working,” said 
GOP strategist Mary Matalin. “A large issue of why this works is that she has 
been so demonized and made fun of by the mainstream press.” 

With more than 850,000 “friends” following her every statement closely on 
Faceb

Re: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care?

[wlrouge]

Yea you are right the butterfly effect. In the words of Captain Janeway, The 
temporal prime directive--it is so much better if you just ignore it.
--Lavender


From: Martin Baxter 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:16 PM
To: SciFiNoir2 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care?




Lavendar, Hiro would never do that, not even for the greater good. He's the 
Classical Geek, believes that he has his powers to do good.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: wlro...@aol.com
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:14:44 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care?

  

I watched it last night or tried to due to the weather. My only problem in the 
show is there is no other enemy then Sylar. To me it makes it real boring when 
you are only dealing with him. From the looks of it he can't be killed he can't 
be stop so then all he really needs to do is kill everyone one by one. Also 
don't get me wrong, I like Claire. I think she is great and all but lets get 
real. Get her out of school or college because she is never going to stop 
trying to kill herself to see how far she can go. Perhaps what needs to happen 
is someone needs to help Hero got back in time, kill baby Sylar and that would 
solve a host of problems. I think the guy that plays him is cute but for me it 
is time to move on. Also one more thing, Peter you are hero...stop fighting it.
--Lavender


From: Keith Johnson 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:57 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care?


I have to admit, I missed all of last season. A lot of the buzz I heard about 
it from all over the place, though, was that "Heroes" wasn't very good. Some 
say it was okay, better than the abbreviated season two, but nowhere nearly as 
good as the debut season. Others--and that's a lot of folks--have said it's 
just no longer a good show at all.
What do y'all say? Anyone here still faithfully watching? If so, what are your 
thoughts on the show to date?







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[scifinoir2] Don't Hate

[Kelwyn]

Miller Wants Rosario Dawson For "Martha Washington"

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=8893

Dave Gibbons has told Digital Spy that Frank Miller's favorite actress to play 
Ms. Washington is the phenomenally hot Rosario Dawson..
Gibbons, who worked on the graphic novel series with comics writer and 
filmmaker Frank Miller, told DS that Dawson would be an ideal actress for the 
eponymous character, a woman who enlists in a reinvented version of the US Army.

"I know a great favorite of Frank Miller's is Rosario Dawson, who was in Sin 
City and has been in some other things," Gibbons said.

"Her name is not seriously in anybody's frame but I do think that it would be a 
wonderful part for an actress because she is a very strong character."

Gibbons added that he and Miller have been too "busy with other stuff" to 
develop the Martha Washington movie further. But the pair is eager to explore 
the character on screen.

"Frank and I have been in love with Martha since we first created her and I'd 
like to think that maybe movie-goers would be as well," he said.

Martha Washington first appeared in the four-issue comic book series Give Me 
Liberty, published in 1990 by Dark Horse Comics,and written by Frank Miller.

[scifinoir2] Re: Don't Hate

[B Smith]

I never thought I'd say this but i think she's all wrong for the part. Shocking 
I know.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Kelwyn"  wrote:
>
> Miller Wants Rosario Dawson For "Martha Washington"
> 
> http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=8893
> 
> Dave Gibbons has told Digital Spy that Frank Miller's favorite actress to 
> play Ms. Washington is the phenomenally hot Rosario Dawson..
> Gibbons, who worked on the graphic novel series with comics writer and 
> filmmaker Frank Miller, told DS that Dawson would be an ideal actress for the 
> eponymous character, a woman who enlists in a reinvented version of the US 
> Army.
> 
> "I know a great favorite of Frank Miller's is Rosario Dawson, who was in Sin 
> City and has been in some other things," Gibbons said.
> 
> "Her name is not seriously in anybody's frame but I do think that it would be 
> a wonderful part for an actress because she is a very strong character."
> 
> Gibbons added that he and Miller have been too "busy with other stuff" to 
> develop the Martha Washington movie further. But the pair is eager to explore 
> the character on screen.
> 
> "Frank and I have been in love with Martha since we first created her and I'd 
> like to think that maybe movie-goers would be as well," he said.
> 
> Martha Washington first appeared in the four-issue comic book series Give Me 
> Liberty, published in 1990 by Dark Horse Comics,and written by Frank Miller.
>

RE: [scifinoir2] Don't Hate

[Martin Baxter]

Whyfor would Martin hate?

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:26:09 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Don't Hate















 





  Miller Wants Rosario Dawson For "Martha Washington"



http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=8893



Dave Gibbons has told Digital Spy that Frank Miller's favorite actress to play 
Ms. Washington is the phenomenally hot Rosario Dawson..

Gibbons, who worked on the graphic novel series with comics writer and 
filmmaker Frank Miller, told DS that Dawson would be an ideal actress for the 
eponymous character, a woman who enlists in a reinvented version of the US Army.



"I know a great favorite of Frank Miller's is Rosario Dawson, who was in Sin 
City and has been in some other things," Gibbons said.



"Her name is not seriously in anybody's frame but I do think that it would be a 
wonderful part for an actress because she is a very strong character."



Gibbons added that he and Miller have been too "busy with other stuff" to 
develop the Martha Washington movie further. But the pair is eager to explore 
the character on screen.



"Frank and I have been in love with Martha since we first created her and I'd 
like to think that maybe movie-goers would be as well," he said.



Martha Washington first appeared in the four-issue comic book series Give Me 
Liberty, published in 1990 by Dark Horse Comics,and written by Frank Miller.





 

  














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[scifinoir2] Re: Boris Kodjoe Cast in'Resident Evil 4: Afterlife'

[B Smith]

Not quite. Mike Epps made about 2/3 of the way through the movie. He was hiding 
the zombie bite that eventually lead to his death. So he lasted through 1 and 
2/3 Resident Evils. Oded Fehr had pretty much the same fate although he lasted 
a little longer.

Ashanti did die fairly early though.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella"  wrote:
>
> I wouldn't either.  They killed the black guy at the beginning in the last
> one
> 
>  
> 
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Martin Baxter
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:51 PM
> To: SciFiNoir2
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Boris Kodjoe Cast in'Resident Evil 4: Afterlife'
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> I wouldn't put money on that, Tracey.
> 
> Not to assume that H'Wood would automatically consign a brother to death in
> a horror movie, mind you, but I've noticed that a few movies have gone
> against convention and had the hero of the piece die a noble, sacrificial
> death. But only time will tell.
> 
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   _  
> 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: tdli...@...
> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:00:13 -0700
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Boris Kodjoe Cast in'Resident Evil 4: Afterlife'
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
> Maybe he won't have to die like Black men usually do in this genre
> 
>  
> 
> Boris Kodjoe (who stars alongside Bruce Willis on the forthcoming
> Surrogates) revealed on his Twitter page that he's set to star in Resident
> Evil 4: Afterlife  , which is
> currently in pre-production in Toronto, Canada (we saw people getting picked
> up at the airport). "In Toronto meeting with the director of my new movie
> Resident Evil: Afterlife. Very exciting!!! Lots of stunts, shooting guns,
> monsters," he exclaimed. Paul W.S. Anderson returns to direct the 3D sequel,
> which will also see the return of Milla Jovovich as Alice.
> 
> http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/17405
> 
>  
> 
> 
> http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/photosizer/upload/boris091609.jpg
> 
>  
> 
> Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer
> 
> The Green Economy Post
> 
> http://greeneconomypost.com
> 
> tra...@...
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>   _  
> 
> Ready for Fall shows? Use Bing to find helpful ratings and reviews on
> digital tv's. Click 
> here.
>

[scifinoir2] Re: Boris Kodjoe Cast in'Resident Evil 4: Afterlife'

[B Smith]

I thought the last one, Resident Evil: Extinction, was pleasantly entertaining. 
Russell Mulcahy brought a sense of visual flair to the movie and moving the 
action away from the city was a good choice.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:
>
> 
> You all know that I'm anti-sequel, and this is my primary citation as to why 
> the things hsouldn't occur. Each installment after the first has been, for 
> me, an escalating exercise in viewing confusion. Even trying to turn off my 
> brain and jut watch for the fights and stunts is difficult.
> 
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: tdli...@...
> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:24:00 -0700
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Boris Kodjoe Cast in'Resident Evil 4: Afterlife'
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Same here, and I do not even like the Resident Evil Business
> 
> 
> 
> From:
> scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of L
> Freeman
> 
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:24 PM
> 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> 
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Boris Kodjoe Cast in'Resident Evil 4:
> Afterlife'
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
>   
>   If he makes it through even half of the movie, I am going
>   to see it. Sorry, it's been too long since I had a chance to see Boris. 
> 
>   
> 
>   --- On Sun, 9/20/09, Tracey de Morsella 
>   wrote:
>   
> 
>   From: Tracey de Morsella 
> 
>   Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Boris Kodjoe Cast in'Resident Evil 4: Afterlife'
> 
>   To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> 
>   Date: Sunday, September 20, 2009, 6:05 PM
>   
> 
>   
>   
>   I wouldn't either.  They killed
>   the black guy at the beginning in the last one
>
>   
>   
>   From:
>   scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On
>   Behalf Of Martin Baxter
> 
>   Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:51 PM
> 
>   To: SciFiNoir2
> 
>   Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Boris Kodjoe Cast in'Resident Evil 4:
>   Afterlife'
>   
>   
>
>   
> 
>   
> 
>   I wouldn't put money on that, Tracey.
> 
>   
> 
>   Not to assume that H'Wood would automatically consign a brother to death in 
> a
>   horror movie, mind you, but I've noticed that a few movies have gone against
>   convention and had the hero of the piece die a noble, sacrificial death. But
>   only time will tell.
> 
>   
> 
>   "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
>   bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
> 
>   
> 
>   http://www.youtube.
>   com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik
> 
>   
> 
>   
> 
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
> 
>   From: tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com
> 
>   Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:00:13 -0700
> 
>   Subject: [scifinoir2] Boris Kodjoe Cast in'Resident Evil 4: Afterlife'
> 
>   
> 
> 
>   
>   
>   
>
>   
>   Maybe he won't have to die like Black men usually do
>   in this genre
>
>   Boris Kodjoe (who stars alongside Bruce Willis on
>   the forthcoming Surrogates) revealed on his Twitter page that he's set
>   to star in Resident Evil 4: Afterlife, which is currently in
>   pre-production in Toronto, Canada (we saw people getting picked up at the
>   airport). "In Toronto meeting with the director of my new movie
>   Resident Evil: Afterlife. Very exciting!!! Lots of stunts, shooting guns,
>   monsters," he exclaimed. Paul W.S. Anderson returns to direct the 3D
>   sequel, which will also see the return of Milla Jovovich as Alice.
>   http://www.bloody- disgusting. com/news/ 17405
>
>   
> 
>   
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care?

[Mr. Worf]

I think that they talked about it in season 2 but he couldn't do it.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> Lavendar, Hiro would never do that, not even for the greater good. He's the
> Classical Geek, believes that he has his powers to do good.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: wlro...@aol.com
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:14:44 -0400
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care?
>
>
> *I watched it last night or tried to due to the weather. My only problem
> in the show is there is no other enemy then Sylar. To me it makes it real
> boring when you are only dealing with him. From the looks of it he can't be
> killed he can't be stop so then all he really needs to do is kill everyone
> one by one. Also don't get me wrong, I like Claire. I think she is great and
> all but lets get real. Get her out of school or college because she is never
> going to stop trying to kill herself to see how far she can go. Perhaps what
> needs to happen is someone needs to help Hero got back in time, kill baby
> Sylar and that would solve a host of problems. I think the guy that plays
> him is cute but for me it is time to move on. Also one more thing, Peter you
> are hero...stop fighting it.*
> *--Lavender*
>
>  *From:* Keith Johnson 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 21, 2009 9:57 AM
> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care?
>
>  I have to admit, I missed all of last season. A lot of the buzz I heard
> about it from all over the place, though, was that "Heroes" wasn't very
> good. Some say it was okay, better than the abbreviated season two, but
> nowhere nearly as good as the debut season. Others--and that's a lot of
> folks--have said it's just no longer a good show at all.
> What do y'all say? Anyone here still faithfully watching? If so, what are
> your thoughts on the show to date?
>
>
>
> --
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[scifinoir2] OT: VIRUS ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Martin Baxter]

Just had this from a friend. SERIOUS STUFF...

Emails
 with pictures of Osama Bin-Laden hanged  are being sent, and the
moment that you open these emails your computer will crash and you
 will not be able to fix  it.

   1.)
If you  get an e-mail along the lines of 'Osama Bin  Laden Captured' or
'Osama  Hanged', don't open the Attachment  

 This  e-mail is being   distributed through countries  around the 
globe, but mainly in   the US and Israel.  

  2.)  You should be alert   during the next few  days:

 Do  not open any message   with an attached file  called 'Invitation,' 
regardless of   who sent it.  
It  is a virus that opens an   Olympic Torch which  'burns' the whole 
hard disc C of   your computer 
This
 virus will be received from someone who has your  e-mail address in
his/her contact list; that is why you should send this E-mail to all
 your  contacts.If
you  receive e-mail titled 'invitation', even though  sent by a friend,
do not open it. Shut down  your computer immediately.  This
 is the worst virus announced by CNN, it has been  classified by
Microsoft as the most destructive  virus ever.

This  virus was discovered   by McAfee yesterday, and  there is no 
repair yet for this   kind of  virus. This  virus simply destroys   
the Zero Sector of the  Hard Disc, where the vital information is   
kept.  


"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik



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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Boris Kodjoe Cast in'Resident Evil 4: Afterlife'

[Martin Baxter]

(trying to remember whether I've even *seen* that one...)

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: daikaij...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:54:40 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Boris Kodjoe Cast in'Resident Evil 4: Afterlife'















 





  I thought the last one, Resident Evil: Extinction, was 
pleasantly entertaining. Russell Mulcahy brought a sense of visual flair to the 
movie and moving the action away from the city was a good choice.



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:

>

> 

> You all know that I'm anti-sequel, and this is my primary citation as to why 
> the things hsouldn't occur. Each installment after the first has been, for 
> me, an escalating exercise in viewing confusion. Even trying to turn off my 
> brain and jut watch for the fights and stunts is difficult.

> 

> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

> 

> 

> 

> 

> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

> From: tdli...@...

> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:24:00 -0700

> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Boris Kodjoe Cast in'Resident Evil 4: Afterlife'

> 

> 

> 

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> 

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> 

> 

> Same here, and I do not even like the Resident Evil Business

> 

> 

> 

> From:

> scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of L

> Freeman

> 

> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:24 PM

> 

> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

> 

> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Boris Kodjoe Cast in'Resident Evil 4:

> Afterlife'

> 

> 

> 

>  

> 

> 

>  

>   

>   If he makes it through even half of the movie, I am going

>   to see it. Sorry, it's been too long since I had a chance to see Boris. 

> 

>   

> 

>   --- On Sun, 9/20/09, Tracey de Morsella 

>   wrote:

>   

> 

>   From: Tracey de Morsella 

> 

>   Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Boris Kodjoe Cast in'Resident Evil 4: Afterlife'

> 

>   To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

> 

>   Date: Sunday, September 20, 2009, 6:05 PM

>   

> 

>   

>   

>   I wouldn't either.  They killed

>   the black guy at the beginning in the last one

>

>   

>   

>   From:

>   scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On

>   Behalf Of Martin Baxter

> 

>   Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:51 PM

> 

>   To: SciFiNoir2

> 

>   Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Boris Kodjoe Cast in'Resident Evil 4:

>   Afterlife'

>   

>   

>

>   

> 

>   

> 

>   I wouldn't put money on that, Tracey.

> 

>   

> 

>   Not to assume that H'Wood would automatically consign a brother to death in 
> a

>   horror movie, mind you, but I've noticed that a few movies have gone against

>   convention and had the hero of the piece die a noble, sacrificial death. But

>   only time will tell.

> 

>   

> 

>   "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in

>   bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

> 

>   

> 

>   http://www.youtube.

>   com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik

> 

>   

> 

>   

> 

>   

>   

>   

>   

>   To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

> 

>   From: tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com

> 

>   Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:00:13 -0700

> 

>   Subject: [scifinoir2] Boris Kodjoe Cast in'Resident Evil 4: Afterlife'

> 

>   

> 

> 

>   

>   

>   

>

>   

>   Maybe he won't have to die like Black men usually do

>   in this genre

>

>   Boris Kodjoe (who stars alongside Bruce Willis on

>   the forthcoming Surrogates) revealed on his Twitter page that he's set

>   to star in Resident Evil 4: Afterlife, which is currently in

>   pre-production in Toronto, Canada (we saw people getting picked up at the

>   airport). "In Toronto meeting with the director of my new movie

>   Resident Evil: Afterlife. Very exciting!!! Lots of stunts, shooting guns,

>   monsters," he exclaimed. Paul W.S. Anderson returns to direct the 3D

>   sequel, which will also see the return of Milla Jovovich as Alice.

>   http://www.bloody- disgusting. com/news/ 17405

>

>   

> 

>   

>

>   Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer

>   The Green Economy Post

>   http://greeneconomy post.com

>   tra...@greeneconomy post.com

>   
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Re: [scifinoir2] OT: VIRUS ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mr. Worf]

All of the emails about viruses pretty much say the same thing.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> Just had this from a friend. SERIOUS STUFF...
>
> *Emails  with pictures of Osama Bin-Laden hanged  are being sent, and the
> moment that you open these emails your computer will crash and you  will not
> be able to fix  it.*
> *
>
>1.) If you  get an e-mail along the lines of 'Osama Bin  Laden Captured'
> or 'Osama  Hanged', don't open the Attachment
> *
> *
> *
> *This  e-mail is being distributed through countries  around the globe,
> but mainly in the US and Israel.
> *
> *
> *
>
> *2.)  You should be alert during the next few  days:
>
>  Do  not open any message with an attached file  called 'Invitation,'
> regardless of who sent it.
> *
>
> *It  is a virus that opens an Olympic Torch which  'burns' the whole hard
> disc C of your computer
> *
>
> *This  virus will be received from someone who has your  e-mail address in
> his/her contact list; that is why you should send this E-mail to all  your
>  contacts.  *
>
> *If you  receive e-mail titled 'invitation', even though  sent by a
> friend, do not open it. Shut down  your computer immediately.*
>
> *This  is the worst virus announced by CNN, it has been  classified by
> Microsoft as the most destructive  virus ever.
>
> **This  virus was discovered by McAfee yesterday, and  there is no repair
> yet for this kind of  virus. *
>
> *This  virus simply destroys the Zero Sector of the  Hard Disc, where the
> vital information is kept.  *
>
> 

RE: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care?

[Martin Baxter]

Honestly, that when I started phasing in and out of the show. Heck, maybe he's 
got a side I'm not aware of. He (Masi Oka) was on "Today" yesterday, talking up 
the show. I admit that I wasn't really paying his words mind, so I ended up 
catching a piece of something that sounded about like his character having a 
fatal disease this season. Anybody know more on this?

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:54:49 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care?















 





  I think that they talked about it in season 2 but he couldn't 
do it. 


On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:


























Lavendar, Hiro would never do that, not even for the greater good. He's the 
Classical Geek, believes that he has his powers to do good.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: wlro...@aol.com
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:14:44 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care?















 





  



I watched it last night or tried to due to the 
weather. My only problem in the show is there is no other enemy then Sylar. To 
me it makes it real boring when you are only dealing with him. From the looks 
of 
it he can't be killed he can't be stop so then all he really needs to do is 
kill 
everyone one by one. Also don't get me wrong, I like Claire. I think she is 
great and all but lets get real. Get her out of school or college because she 
is 
never going to stop trying to kill herself to see how far she can go. Perhaps 
what needs to happen is someone needs to help Hero got back in time, kill baby 
Sylar and that would solve a host of problems. I think the guy that plays him 
is 
cute but for me it is time to move on. Also one more thing, Peter you are 
hero...stop fighting it.
--Lavender




From: Keith Johnson 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:57 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone 
Care?



I have to admit, I missed all of last season. A lot of the buzz I heard about 
it from all over the place, though, was that "Heroes" wasn't very good. Some 
say 
it was okay, better than the abbreviated season two, but nowhere nearly as good 
as the debut season. Others--and that's a lot of folks--have said it's just no 
longer a good show at all.

What do y'all say? Anyone here still faithfully watching? If so, what are 
your thoughts on the show to date?





 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: VIRUS ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Martin Baxter]

I know. I've just been passing the word around, trying to spare anyone the pain.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:14:45 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: VIRUS ALERT!!!















 





  All of the emails about viruses pretty much say the same 
thing. 


On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:


























Just had this from a friend. SERIOUS STUFF...

Emails
 with pictures of Osama Bin-Laden hanged  are being sent, and the
moment that you open these emails your computer will crash and you
 will not be able to fix  it.

   1.)
If you  get an e-mail along the lines of 'Osama Bin  Laden Captured' or
'Osama  Hanged', don't open the Attachment  


 This  e-mail is being   distributed through countries  around the 
globe, but mainly in   the US and Israel.  


  2.)  You should be alert   during the next few  days:


 Do  not open any message   with an attached file  called 'Invitation,' 
regardless of   who sent it.  

It  is a virus that opens an   Olympic Torch which  'burns' the whole 
hard disc C of   your computer 


This
 virus will be received from someone who has your  e-mail address in
his/her contact list; that is why you should send this E-mail to all
 your  contacts.  
  If
you  receive e-mail titled 'invitation', even though  sent by a friend,
do not open it. Shut down  your computer immediately.
  This
 is the worst virus announced by CNN, it has been  classified by
Microsoft as the most destructive  virus ever.

This  virus was discovered   by McAfee yesterday, and  there is no 
repair yet for this   kind of  virus. 

This  virus simply destroys   the Zero Sector of the  Hard Disc, where 
the vital information is   kept.  





"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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[scifinoir2] Re: Don't Hate

[Kelwyn]

Actually, I think she is wrong for the part, too.  But then again, I thought 
Tom Cruise was all wrong to play the Vampire Lestat (too short and too 
brunette) and that Hugh Jackman was all wrong to play Wolverine (too lean, too 
tall and too Australian).  In both cases, I was wrong.

~rave!


--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "B Smith"  wrote:
>
> I never thought I'd say this but i think she's all wrong for the part. 
> Shocking I know.
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Kelwyn"  wrote:
> >
> > Miller Wants Rosario Dawson For "Martha Washington"
> > 
> > http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=8893
> > 
> > Dave Gibbons has told Digital Spy that Frank Miller's favorite actress to 
> > play Ms. Washington is the phenomenally hot Rosario Dawson..
> > Gibbons, who worked on the graphic novel series with comics writer and 
> > filmmaker Frank Miller, told DS that Dawson would be an ideal actress for 
> > the eponymous character, a woman who enlists in a reinvented version of the 
> > US Army.
> > 
> > "I know a great favorite of Frank Miller's is Rosario Dawson, who was in 
> > Sin City and has been in some other things," Gibbons said.
> > 
> > "Her name is not seriously in anybody's frame but I do think that it would 
> > be a wonderful part for an actress because she is a very strong character."
> > 
> > Gibbons added that he and Miller have been too "busy with other stuff" to 
> > develop the Martha Washington movie further. But the pair is eager to 
> > explore the character on screen.
> > 
> > "Frank and I have been in love with Martha since we first created her and 
> > I'd like to think that maybe movie-goers would be as well," he said.
> > 
> > Martha Washington first appeared in the four-issue comic book series Give 
> > Me Liberty, published in 1990 by Dark Horse Comics,and written by Frank 
> > Miller.
> >
>

[scifinoir2] Re: OT: VIRUS ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kelwyn]

I always google virus alerts before forwarding them.  The most recent thing I 
found regarding this particular alert is from 2005.  Before that, 2002.  

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:
>
> 
> Just had this from a friend. SERIOUS STUFF...
> 
> Emails
>  with pictures of Osama Bin-Laden hanged  are being sent, and the
> moment that you open these emails your computer will crash and you
>  will not be able to fix  it.
> 
>1.)
> If you  get an e-mail along the lines of 'Osama Bin  Laden Captured' or
> 'Osama  Hanged', don't open the Attachment  
> 
>  This  e-mail is being   distributed through countries  around the 
> globe, but mainly in   the US and Israel.  
> 
>   2.)  You should be alert   during the next few  days:
> 
>  Do  not open any message   with an attached file  called 
> 'Invitation,' regardless of   who sent it.  
> It  is a virus that opens an   Olympic Torch which  'burns' the whole 
> hard disc C of   your computer 
> This
>  virus will be received from someone who has your  e-mail address in
> his/her contact list; that is why you should send this E-mail to all
>  your  contacts.If
> you  receive e-mail titled 'invitation', even though  sent by a friend,
> do not open it. Shut down  your computer immediately.  This
>  is the worst virus announced by CNN, it has been  classified by
> Microsoft as the most destructive  virus ever.
> 
> This  virus was discovered   by McAfee yesterday, and  there is no 
> repair yet for this   kind of  virus. This  virus simply destroys 
>   the Zero Sector of the  Hard Disc, where the vital information is   
> kept.  
> 
> 
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
> 
> 
> 
> _
> Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft.
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[scifinoir2] Was paradise lost? People taller, healthier 3000 years ago

[Kelwyn]

Did mankind's nutrition suffer in evolution from forest to farm?

http://www.jsonline.com/features/health/60002162.html

I believe in the redoubtable science of paradox: Whatever one believes is 
probably something else altogether.

~rave!

[scifinoir2] ARK II has not aged well

[George Arterberry]

noir,

Feeling sort of nostalgic and Netflix (ing) those 70's sci-fi shows of my 
youth. UFO,Space 1999,Logan's Run and several others. ARK was as horrid as a 
remember.
Stay away




 















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Re: [scifinoir2] Was paradise lost? People taller, healthier 3000 years ago

[Mr. Worf]

We discussed this in a science class at school. The theory is that because
of evolution the human body lost its ability to produce certain things like
minerals and vitamins over time. For example, the human body lost its
ability to produce vitamin c because our ancestors ate a lot of fruit over
time because of hunting and gathering. Fruit was easy to find and often in
abundance in some areas.

Over time our bodies have changed because of the changes in our diets. They
say Americans eat only a small amount of dietary fiber (and veggies) which
can contribute to digestive track and heart problems.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Kelwyn  wrote:

> Did mankind's nutrition suffer in evolution from forest to farm?
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Re: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care?

[Keith Johnson]

so, will you keep watching? 

- Original Message - 
From: wlro...@aol.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:14:44 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care? 







I watched it last night or tried to due to the weather. My only problem in the 
show is there is no other enemy then Sylar. To me it makes it real boring when 
you are only dealing with him. From the looks of it he can't be killed he can't 
be stop so then all he really needs to do is kill everyone one by one. Also 
don't get me wrong, I like Claire. I think she is great and all but lets get 
real. Get her out of school or college because she is never going to stop 
trying to kill herself to see how far she can go. Perhaps what needs to happen 
is someone needs to help Hero got back in time, kill baby Sylar and that would 
solve a host of problems. I think the guy that plays him is cute but for me it 
is time to move on. Also one more thing, Peter you are hero...stop fighting it. 
--Lavender 




From: Keith Johnson 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:57 AM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [scifinoir2] "Heroes" Returns--Does Anyone Care? 




I have to admit, I missed all of last season. A lot of the buzz I heard about 
it from all over the place, though, was that "Heroes" wasn't very good. Some 
say it was okay, better than the abbreviated season two, but nowhere nearly as 
good as the debut season. Others--and that's a lot of folks--have said it's 
just no longer a good show at all. 

What do y'all say? Anyone here still faithfully watching? If so, what are your 
thoughts on the show to date? 

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook

[Keith Johnson]

I fear that as well 

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Baxter"  
To: "SciFiNoir2"  
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:20:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook 






And that's the scary side of the Information Age. Even the Nutjobs and the 
Truly Dangerous have the means to voice their First Amendment rights. And, as 
long as there's that element that refuses to think for itself, the Nutjobs and 
the Truly Dangerous have their audience. I fear that it may come down to 
violence before a resolution is sought. 

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:01:15 + 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook 






there's always been the fringe, and the not-so-fringe bigots. The more 
communications methods we have, the more they're able to disseminate 
information and reinforce each other's views 

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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:12:15 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Sarah Palin Phenom on Facebook 





I think a lot of it has to do with the republicans using the distrust of the 
media to their advantage. It is something that has been gaining momentum since 
regan was in office. He would make a sly comment or gesture as if it were an 
inside joke. Now we have the same thing going on and it is gaining momentum. I 
was just listening to the radio and they said in a recent poll that 15% of 
republicans actually believe that Obama is the anti-christ. WTF??? Are they 
passing out crack at these townhall meetings or what? 



On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
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I actually have no comment on this--maybe because I'm too busy shuddering at 
this abuse of technology. And pondering anew how my fellow Americans can 
sometimes be so unrelentingly stupid in who and what they support. 
And while I respect the emergence of the importance of social networking, I 
don't think we've come so far yet that we should let a person's Tweets or 
Facebook postings shape our opinions on national and international events and 
policy. 

I mean, Palin lied on Facebook about death panels--or worse, she might have 
been stupid enough to *believe* that foolishness--and waited five days to say 
something about that stance (and this article unfortunately doesn't say what 
she said. Did she recant?) 

And the conservatives were worried about Obama's nefarious programming of the 
kiddies. I'm more afraid of the tens of thousands of Followers reproducing ,and 
then educating their progeny. Still, perhaps there's hope. If the likes of Ari 
Fleischer (who I can't abide) sees through her questionable veneer of charm, 
maybe there are a few brain cells yet working in America. 

Okay, so maybe I did have a comment or two! :) 

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090919/pl_politico/27344 
Palin emerges as Facebook phenom 
Since resigning her post as governor of Alaska , Sarah Palin has essentially 
gone dark, making almost no public appearances and successfully avoiding the 
media outlets that are clamoring to talk to her. 
But that doesn’t mean Palin has been quiet. 



Relying almost exclusively on social media to get her message out, Palin has 
managed to carve out her own high-profile place in the national health care 
debate, on energy policy and on tort reform . 
While Palin isn’t the only major political figure to try alternative means of 
communication to bypass the media, her unique ability to remain in the 
headlines while avoiding the spotlight suggests she may be the first to pull it 
off successfully. 



For several days in August, the national health care debate turned to focus on 
so-called “death panels,” in large part because of two widely-publicized Palin 
Facebook posts accusing Democratic authors of the House proposal of creating 
bureaucratic entities to decide end of life care . 
The post was immediately rebuked by Democrats, and even by some Republicans , 
as untrue and irresponsible. But rather than immediately firing back at her 
critics when reporters came calling for a response, or issuing a press release 
defending her claim, Palin waited five days to post her response on Facebook. 



The post, simply titled “concerning the ‘death panels,’” went up shortly before 
midnight on a Wednesday night. By late Thursday morning, a write up of her 
statement was on the homepage of dozens of national and local newspapers. The 
post also quickly became one of the most mentioned topics within the political 
blogosphere. 
“I can’t answer what her strategy is, but I can say that it’s

Re: [scifinoir2] ARK II has not aged well

[Keith Johnson]

I like Space: 1999, and think some of the eps still hold up okay. UFO was so a 
fun, quirky show, I'd love to see a remake--done by the Brits only! Ark II? 
That was cheesy when it was new. 
If you hated those, then stay away from "Jason of Star Command" nad "Space 
Academy"! 

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From: "George Arterberry"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:31:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] ARK II has not aged well 






noir, 




Feeling sort of nostalgic and Netflix (ing) those 70's sci-fi shows of my 
youth. UFO,Space 1999,Logan's Run and several others. ARK was as horrid as a 
remember. 


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Re: [scifinoir2] ARK II has not aged well

[Mr. Worf]

Have you heard about the new "The Prisoner" show coming on IFC?

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

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> so a fun, quirky show, I'd love to see a remake--done by the Brits only!
> Ark II? That was cheesy when it was new.
> If you hated those, then stay away from "Jason of Star Command" nad "Space
> Academy"!
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> - Original Message -
> From: "George Arterberry" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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> Subject: [scifinoir2] ARK II has not aged well
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> youth. UFO,Space 1999,Logan's Run and several others. ARK was as horrid as a
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[scifinoir2] FlashForward on Thursday Anyone??

[Tracey de Morsella]

Is anyone planning on checking out FlashForward on Thursday?  Anyone read
the book?

http://scifiwire.com/2009/06/we-saw-the-pilot-heres-wh.php

We saw the pilot, and here's why we think you're going to like FlashForward

We got an early look at ABC's upcoming sci-fi series FlashForward on
Wednesday night at Disney/ABC's mothership in beautiful downtown Burbank,
and while we can't give you a proper review, we can tell you this:

Watch it.

We were asked not to divulge any spoilery details or to tell you much about
what we saw-which was the one-hour pilot episode-but we can tell you what
it's not.

It's not Lost, though it has elements of that show: a high-concept sci-fi
premise, told intimately through the lives (present and future) of about 10
main characters, as well as a deep, abiding mystery that will be unraveled
over the course of the first season and subsequent seasons right up to the
last minute.

It's not The X-Files, though it has an FBI agent (Joseph Fiennes) at its
heart and a procedural element to its storylines, with potential criminals
and other bad guys and creepy weirdness here and there.

It's not ER, Fringe, Heroes or any other hit drama, though it shares
elements with all of those shows, including a main character who's a
surgeon, weird science and people who may or may not have access to strange
visions.

No, it's that rare thing in television: something completely new. And, at
least judging by the big-screen Blu-ray version we saw, it will look
absolutely gorgeous, not to say epic, for a TV show.

Based on the novel by Canadian SF author Robert J. Sawyer, FlashForward (not
Flash Forward) begins when every person on Earth blacks out for 2 minutes
and 17 seconds, during which time each has a vision of his or her future six
months from now.

"There have been comparisons to Lost, ... [that the show is] a Lost
replacement," executive producer David S. Goyer told an audience on
Wednesday. "[But] it was written as a spec and originally was even
anticipated to be an HBO show. So it wasn't written at all for ABC or to be
a Lost replacement. And I think the comparisons are accurate in that we also
have a very large cast and are telling a very big, cinematic, ambitious
story, but I think once you see the pilot ... that's where the similarities
end."

Goyer and show runner Marc Guggenheim are big TV fans themselves and
promised that they have a plan for the show that will play out in season one
and then in subsequent seasons in a way that is deliberate and not vamping.
Seriously.

For one thing-and this is a spoiler we can reveal-the first season is
designed to reach a kind of climax on the very real date of April 29, 2010.
There's no getting around it.

So what happens if the show does get picked up for a second season?

"Well, obviously, we're not going to tell you that right now," Goyer says
with mock exasperation. "You know? But I will say that at the end of the
first season, the promise of the first season is all the glimpses of the
future that you've seen of our series regulars, that we've teased, we will
know whether those particular futures have come to pass or not. 

"In terms of what happens next, we're not going to tell you; that's part of
the fun," Goyer added. "And part of the fun in the breaking of the stories
is also subverting expectations. Because you plant this big flag saying,
'OK, April 29, six months from now.' I think it's natural for the audience
to assume that we're just going to vamp until episodes 20 and 21, and then a
bunch of s--t's going to happen. But-f--k you guys-by the end, it will
become evident. ... We've already ... finished the first seven episodes, and
it will become crystal clear by the end of those seven episodes that that's
not what we're doing. And ... we're never going to lie to the audience.
We're going to play by the rules. ... But what we'll tell you in the pilot
is, you haven't seen all the chess pieces yet, and you don't know what all
the rules are."

FlashForward debuts Sept. 24 and will air Thursdays at 8 p.m. ET/PT. Goyer
and Guggenheim also promise they'll preview the show at this year's
Comic-Con International in San Diego.

 

Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer

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