[scifinoir2] BSG is the top timeshifted program of 2009

2009-12-12 Thread Tracey de Morsella

BSG is the top timeshifted program of 2009


Nielsen, those TV ratings people, just came out with their Top 10 lists of
2009, and surprise, surprise ... while sci-fi shows couldn't crack the Top
10 TV Programs, Battlestar Galactica is the number-one timeshifted
prime-time TV program of the year, with increased viewing of a whopping 59.4
percent.

The timeshifted list measures viewers who watch a show after it has aired
and is based on the percentage of additional viewers beyond the network
ratings. In fact, the list of Top 10 'Timeshifted' TV Programs is riddled
with sci-fi, fantasy and/or cable shows, including shows canceled or no
longer on the air, like Galactica.

Fox's American Idol, of course, grabbed up the top spot for the Top 10 TV
Programs list, with the show making it into 14.4 percent of U.S. homes.

Top 10 Timeshifted TV Programs-Network % Increase of Timeshifted Viewing

http://scifiwire.com/2009/12/battlestar-galactica-is-t.php

1. Battlestar Galactica (Syfy)-59.4% 
2. Mad Men (AMC)-57.7%
3. Damages (FX)-56.3%
4. Rescue Me (FX)-53.2%
5. True Blood (HBO)-46.9%
5. Stargate Universe (Syfy)-46.9%
7. Sanctuary (Syfy)-45.9%
7. Heroes (NBC)-45.9%
9. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Fox)-45.5%
10. 10 Things I Hate About You (ABC Family)-44.9% 
10. Dollhouse (Fox)-44.9% 
10. Melrose Place (CW)-44.9% 

The other good Nielsen news is that the company announced that it was
accelerating its plans to add Internet measurements to its national ratings
sample. The initiative is called TVandPC and will be the industry's first
source that measures both TV and online viewing. Like the addition of
measuring timeshift viewing, this is going to come as a big boon to sci-fi
shows, whose viewers tend to be more technologically inclined.

 



[scifinoir2] Time-travel movie next for Bowie's director son, Duncan Jones?

2009-12-12 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Fresh off his British Independent Film Award wins for Best Film and Best
Debut Director this week for his low-budget mini-masterpiece Moon, Duncan
Jones (formerly known as Zowie Bowie, son of rocker David Bowie) is gearing
up to tackle the SF thriller Source Code. According to a Tweet from
Production http://twitter.com/prodweek/status/6555467682  Weekly, Jones
will start pre-production in a few weeks and will film this spring in
Montreal.

Variety
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118011029.html?categoryid=13cs=1
reports that Source Code is the story of a soldier who finds himself
repeatedly placed in the body of another person just before the detonation
of a bomb on a commuter train. Prince of Persia's Jake Gyllenhaal, currently
starring in the drama Brothers with Natalie Portman and Tobey Maguire, has
been in negotiations to play the lead, replacing Topher Grace.

SF fans could say that this premise seems like a cocktail of Quantum Leap
Groundhog's Day, and the time-travel show Seven Days. But if Jones showed
such chops taking established SF tropes and making them seem fresh in Moon,
do you think he can pull off the premise of Source Code?

http://scifiwire.com/2009/12/whats-next-for-moon-direc.php#more



[scifinoir2] Avatar's spectacular and corny at the same time

2009-12-12 Thread Tracey de Morsella
http://scifiwire.com/2009/12/avatars-spectacular-and-c.php

Avatar, James Cameron's much-hyped sci-fi epic, is many things: a
mind-blowing technical achievement, a lyrically beautiful paean to nature
(albeit alien), a rousing adventure story and an overly familiar,
cliche-ridden hero's journey, but there's one thing it's not. Simple.

The movie premiered to rapturous applause in London on Thursday night, and
early reviews have been similarly glowing. We appreciate the film's good
qualities-and there are many of them-but we came away troubled by the
story's problems. Still, it's hard not to like Avatar for a lot of reasons.

 

The human forces on Pandora unleash tremendous firepower in an epic battle
against the Na'vi, the indigenous population.

The main thing, though, is that early buzz about the movie's look and
feel-that it looks too cartoony or video-game-like-are completely off the
mark. It took us about five minutes to get used to the masterful 3-D
(starting with a floating water droplet that slowly coalesces right in front
of our and Sam Worthington's faces). Once we're on the completely
computer-generated surface of the alien moon of Pandora, it also took us
about five minutes to believe that what we were seeing was completely
photo-real, including the performances of the giant blue natives, which were
achieved through extremely accurate and subtle motion-capture technology. 

From then on, it was easy to become completely swept up in the sci-fi
fantasy world of Avatar. The story kicks off aboard a giant floating
starship, kind of the next generation of the Sulaco from Cameron's own
Aliens (there are other callbacks and echoes of that great movie
throughout). It's not long before we and hero Jake Sully (Worthington), a
paraplegic Marine, are downloaded into the consciousness of his giant blue
avatar, designed to resemble Pandora's native Na'vi humanoids, and are
literally and figuratively running in an adventure that is equal parts
Dances With Wolves, Pocahontas and Braveheart.

Jake finds himself overmatched by Pandora's native beasts, including a giant
Thanator, and by the Na'vi themselves, personified by the lissome warrior
Neytiri (Zoe Saldana). She despises him and his kind, the Sky People, who
have come to the planet to mine a valuable mineral and see the Na'vi as a
nuisance. But he quickly ingratiates himself into the tribe, in part because
(we are led to believe) the planet itself seems to think there's something
special about Jake.

Jake, meanwhile, is co-opted by the nefarious Col. Quaritch (a growling
Stephen Lang), who sees in Jake an opportunity to infiltrate the enemy and
learn its secrets. Jake initially agrees, but he finds his allegiances in
question the closer he gets both to Neytiri and to the Na'vi. The scientists
led by Dr. Grace Augustine (Aliens' awesome Sigourney Weaver), meanwhile,
worry that the corporation in charge of the mission to Pandora will ignore
her team's attempts to win the hearts and minds of the Na'vi and instead
take the planet by force.

If the story sounds familiar, it is, and it's one of the largely
computer-animated film's ironies that the only cartoon-like thing about it
is its plot. The dialogue often lapses into real cornball-Lang's Quaritch
actually says You're not in Kansas anymore-and the situations and events
are predictable almost from the first frame. Cameron has argued that the
story is necessarily familiar because of its mythic roots, but there's
practically nothing in Avatar that isn't telegraphed from the word go.

That familiarity is compounded by the one-dimensional nature of most of the
characters, with the notable exception of Jake and Neytiri. There's the
venal corporate executive, the wise medicine woman, the noble chief, and on
and on. 

But the film works on many levels, owing to Cameron's virtuosic filmmaking
abilities. We've mentioned the technical achievements, but Cameron has also
succeeded on an aesthetic level: The vistas and jungles, flora and fauna, of
Pandora are truly breathtakingly beautiful (you gotta really like the color
blue). The action is balls-out great, especially when Jake and his fellow
Na'vi take to the air aboard their dragonlike Banshees, soaring over and
around massive floating mountains. Again, it's easy to get swept away by the
romance of the adventure, and Cameron knows how to stage and pace the action
so that the two-hour-and-40-minute film seems to race by.

Jake and Neytiri's relationship is plausibly romantic, owing mainly to
Saldana's deliciously alien performance as the catlike Neytiri, but key
scenes feel a bit underwritten. 

Cameron has been saying over and over again that Avatar will change the way
movies are made. That's also ironic, considering how old-fashioned it is in
many ways. But it's certainly worth a return trip, just to immerse oneself
in the complete universe that Cameron and his company have created.

(Avatar opens Dec. 18. We are publishing this early review with the
permission of 

Re: [scifinoir2] Time-travel movie next for Bowie's director son, Duncan Jones?

2009-12-12 Thread Omari Confer
Moon was a moody little gem. Hope the son of bowie keeps it up!

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Tracey de Morsella 
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote:



  Fresh off his British Independent Film Award wins for Best Film and Best
 Debut Director this week for his low-budget mini-masterpiece *Moon*,
 Duncan Jones (formerly known as Zowie Bowie, son of rocker David Bowie) is
 gearing up to tackle the SF thriller *Source Code*. According to a Tweet
 from Production Weekly http://twitter.com/prodweek/status/6555467682,
 Jones will start pre-production in a few weeks and will film this spring in
 Montreal.

 Varietyhttp://www.variety.com/article/VR1118011029.html?categoryid=13cs=1reports
  that
 *Source Code* is the story of a soldier who finds himself repeatedly
 placed in the body of another person just before the detonation of a bomb on
 a commuter train. *Prince of Persia*'s Jake Gyllenhaal, currently starring
 in the drama *Brothers* with Natalie Portman and Tobey Maguire, has been
 in negotiations to play the lead, replacing Topher Grace.

 SF fans could say that this premise seems like a cocktail of *Quantum Leap
 Groundhog's Day*, and the time-travel show *Seven Days*. But if Jones
 showed such chops taking established SF tropes and making them seem fresh in
 *Moon*, do you think he can pull off the premise of *Source Code*?

 http://scifiwire.com/2009/12/whats-next-for-moon-direc.php#more

 




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[scifinoir2] James Cameron confirms Fantastic Voyage, Battle Angel

2009-12-12 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Avatar, James Cameron's 3-D sci-fi epic, is envisioned as the start of a
franchise, and Cameron confirmed Friday that he has mapped out sequels for
the movie, which is one of the film's he'd direct next-that, or his
long-envisioned film version of the anime Battle Angel Alita. Cameron,
meanwhile, confirmed that he is producing and developing a script for-but
will not direct-a new version of the classic sci-fi movie Fantastic Voyage,
which he promised will be very different.

 

Fantastic Voyage

With regard to sequels to Avatar, which opens on Dec. 18, Cameron said, We
joked about this all the time. We cut to 10 years later, Jake's [Sam
Worthington] kind of fat and sitting in Home Tree and says, 'Honey get me a
beer,' and Neytiri's [Zoe Saldana] like, 'Get your own beer.' You know,
that's kind of the reality of a love story 10 years later [laughs].

Seriously, though, Cameron said in a press conference in London: Actually,
you know, when I pitched this to 20th Century Fox four and a half years ago,
I said, 'You know, we're going to spend a lot of money and time and energy
creating not only a process but the assets, the CG assets, we call them: all
the models of every rock and tree and plant and creature and the muscle rigs
for all the creatures and the facial rigging for the main characters and all
that,' and [that's] huge, millions and millions of dollars. So it really
makes sense to think of it as the potential start of a franchise, if you
will, or a saga that plays out over several acts, each movie being an act of
that saga. And I have it mapped out, but I haven't written the scripts yet.
And it all depends on whether we do well with the first film. But that was
certainly the intention from the beginning: to create a foundation for a
persistent world.

Cameron confirmed to SCI FI Wire after the press conference that he will
produce the new Fantastic Voyage, based on the 1966 sci-fi movie that
starred Raquel Welch, about a team of scientists in a miniaturized submarine
who navigate a human body to zap an inoperable tumor. Well, we've been
working on a script for Fantastic Voyage, but that's not for me to direct,
Cameron said. That's just a produced project, yeah. It's quite different.
But it's got enough of the original story that you'll still recognize it.

Cameron also confirmed that he's still considering directing
http://scifiwire.com/2009/07/sdcc-cameron-reveals-plan.php Battle Angel
Alita, based on a manga series that is also the basis of a popular anime
series, about an amnesiac female cyborg who is discovered in a futuristic
dystopian world. Battle Angel is one of the films I'll be considering when
I decide what to do next, Cameron added.

Does that mean he'd do any Avatar sequel afterwards? Not necessarily, he
said. That's part of the decision-making process.

Look for more Avatar news and a review on SCI FI Wire soon!

http://scifiwire.com/2009/12/james-cameron-confirms-fa.php

 



[scifinoir2] Teen Racks Up $21K Cell Phone Bill

2009-12-12 Thread Mr. Worf
http://www.ktvu.com/news/21927813/detail.html


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Pretty cool stuff.


[scifinoir2] Who else is looking forward to Avatar?

2009-12-12 Thread George Arterberry
Reviews I've read were generally positive 


  

RE: [scifinoir2] Who else is looking forward to Avatar?

2009-12-12 Thread Tracey de Morsella
I'm there

 

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Behalf Of George Arterberry
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Reviews I've read were generally positive 


 











Re: [scifinoir2] Who else is looking forward to Avatar?

2009-12-12 Thread Amy Harlib

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Me too!
Amy
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  I'm there

   

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  Reviews I've read were generally positive 


   











  


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Re: [scifinoir2] Weird Food McDonald's Sells Around The World

2009-12-12 Thread Adrianne Brennan
Just peas and potatoes for the McAlooTiki? WANT

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On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:









 *McDonald's Around The World: Marvels Never Cease, Especially in Asia

 *If you think McDonald's sells the same burgers and fries everywhere in
 the world, think again – here in Asia they’ve had to make some concessions
 to local tastes and come up with some peculiar fast-food variations on Asian
 favourites.

 It all started with the *Samurai Pork Burger*. I saw this advertised
 outside a McDonald's in Bangkok back in 2004 and was somewhat perplexed. Why
 is it a Japanese name when I’m in Thailand? And what do Samurai have to do
 with pork? Actually, why is it called Samurai at all? Sadly, I never
 actually found out any of the answers, but it made me start paying closer
 attention to McDonald's every time I went to another country in Asia.


 http://lh6.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SvKA4P2fd4I/AAABLp0/uZegIN_17AQ/s640/lkjhlkjhlkjhlk.jpg
 (Samurai Pork Burger, Bangkok, Thailand (left) and Thai Spicy Fish
 McDippers (right) - photos via http://travelhappy.info/)

 Perhaps more traditional for Thailand, the *Thai Spicy Fish McDippers*(image 
 above right) are a piscine breadcrumb and chili overload.
 Incidentally, don’t actually expect to eat your fast food in Thailand fast –
 you will inevitably be handed your burger but have to wait five minutes for
 your fries, which will be dutifully brought to you – by which time, of
 course, you’ve eaten your burger…

 In Singapore, the national obsession with rice extends to having *rice
 cakes in your burger*.


 http://lh5.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SvKA42LvwpI/AAABLp8/ve2XBbU6hkw/s640/poiuypoiupoiup.jpg
 (Rice Burgers, Singapore)

 I expected lots of interesting stuff in a Japanese McDonald's –
 McTentacles perhaps – but the menu was disappointingly ordinary.

 Although there were these – *Seaweed Flavoured Fries*. Also, see
 below-right: the tasty tentacle snack from Japan. Yum.


 http://lh5.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SvKA5Td53mI/AAABLqE/0VKdEIZ6hUk/s640/r5hsdrhdbgc.jpg

 In Hong Kong, I nearly got arrested for taking this photo of the *Green
 Tea and Red Bean Ice Cream Sundae*. Didn’t realise they guarded their
 secret bean recipe quite so zealously.


 http://lh6.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SvKA52nQl5I/AAABLqM/NxUGAjwV6Wo/s640/oiuyoiuyoiuyo.jpg
 (Green Tea And Red Bean Sundae, Hong Kong)

 In Indonesia, as the world’s largest Muslim country, chicken is far more
 popular than beefburgers (and, of course, the Samurai Pork Burger would be
 completely taboo). Hence you get combo sets of chicken, rice and Coke:


 http://lh4.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SvKIOz8GTkI/AAABLss/paNpZ5o1Dto/s640/876tri.jpg
 Chicken, Rice and Coke, Jakarta, Indonesia

 Perhaps my biggest WTF moment (Weird and Troubling Food, naturally) in a
 McDonald's was in the Philippines, when I spotted the clotted mess that is
 *McSpaghetti*. (McDo indeed). My Filipino friends explained to me that it
 was incredibly popular and basically consisted of spaghetti soaked in sugar.
 E.

 Let me repeat this: *Spaghetti - Soaked In - Sugar!*.


 http://lh5.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SvKA7FI2mgI/AAABLqc/PBbCY47wbyU/s640/kiuglkhjulkjhlkj.jpg
 McSpaghetti, Philippines

 I also seem to remember that when I first went to Australia in 2003, there
 was a *Billabong Burger* that had tinned beetroot between two patties.
 Sadly (or perhaps thankfully), I don’t have any photographic evidence,
 though it tasted as grim as it sounds. There was also a similar one called
 *McOz* with only one patty (plus the tinned beetroot that is ubiquitous in
 Australia – fresh beetroot isn’t nearly as popular).


 *Spam, Spam, Spam, Eggs, Bacon, and Spam*

 David Gardner shares his experience: Did you know you can get Spam, eggs,
 and rice for a McDonald’s Breakfast in Honolulu? Yup. Right there on
 Kalakaua St facing Waikiki. Totally cool!

 See this classic Monty Python sketch to truly appreciate the irony.


 http://lh4.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SvKKt3pu86I/AAABLtI/TmSY29kS1qY/s640/oi7to87toyu.jpg


 In the middle of Moscow, on a busy Arbat street, you can get a take-out for
 your horse:


 http://lh5.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SvKF07V7F6I/AAABLr4/Kr773aWft50/s640/lkjhlkjhlkjhl343.jpg
 http://lh4.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SvKF1Xdo5ZI/AAABLsA/i0CIaIamxC4/s640/iuytiuytkjhgk.jpg



 *Big Macs are a Big Unknown in Chongqing, China*

 My most memorable experience of McDonald's in Asia, however, is stumbling
 onto a MaccyDs in Chongqing, China. I’d just completed an excruciating trip
 

[scifinoir2] The 15 most gruesome ways to die on Fox's Fringe

2009-12-12 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Forget the pattern, shapeshifters and alternate universes. No show kills off
its characters in more gruesome, horrifying or fun ways than Fox's Fringe.
Those demented writers do gory death so wrong, it's absolutely perfect. And
if you don't like it ... well, then don't watch.

http://scifiwire.com/2009/12/the-15-most-gruesome-ways.php

In fact, in last week's episode, Snakehead, Olivia Dunham (Anna Torv)
asked Peter Bishop (Joshua Jackson), Did you eat? He replied, Yeah. And
she said, That's unfortunate. Those lines could actually be uttered during
any Fringe episode.

 

Thursday's Fringe, the last original episode of the year, offers up a
spontaneous brain surgery gone wrong in Grey Matters. We have to admit,
having a character run around with an exposed brain through a chunk of the
show sounds like fun. However, whether it will make our top deaths (and
whether anyone dies), well, we'll just have to wait and see.

 

Until then, here are our top 15 goriest deaths, and a bonus life, a la
Fringe:

 

 

1. Pilot Death via the worst plane flight ever. Everyone melts. At least
they don't have to worry about their flight being late.

 

2. The Ghost Network Death via the worst bus ride ever. Everyone drowns
when gas turns into a hard transparenty substance. Being trapped on a city
bus forever. sounds pretty gruesome to us.

 

 

3. The Cure Death by exploding radioactive head. Everyone's brains boiled.
And we hear the onion soup is delicious.

 

4. SafeDeath by wall. And it seemed like such a good idea at the time. 

 

5. AbilityDeath by lack of orifices. Don't you hate that when that
happens?

 

6. No-Brainer Death by liquid brains. This is your brain . Actually this
is your brain on Fringe.

 

7. Bound Death by the not so common cold. It makes you think you have time
to wash your hands after all, doesn't it?

 

8. The TransformationDeath by mutant porcupine guy and the second worst
plane flight ever. Let's see . get eaten by mutant porcupine guy or die in a
plane crash . hummm.

 

9. The Road Not Taken Death by spontaneous combustion. Somehow still
better than #1, #2, #3, #5, #6, #7, #8... and, well, most of them.

 

10. Unleashed Death by transgenic species. Definitely has bigger teeth
than #9, but it doesn't just eat you. It lays its eggs in you, too.

 

11. Night of Desirable Objects Death by genetically created scorpion/man
monster. His teeth aren't go big, but he gets to take his time to eat you.
On the other hand he doesn't lay eggs in you, or if he does, you don't care.

 

12. Fracture Death by being crystallized by a radio wave, shattered and
turned into a human bomb. At least he's not melting and his brains aren't
being liquefied!

 

13.Dream Logic Death by psycho employee who thinks you're a demon. Talk
about hating your boss.

 

14. Earthling Death by radioactive shadow alien entity. Okay. we're buying
the whole alternate universe thing, and the pattern and the coming war. Now
we've got radioactive shadow alien entities too?

 

15. Snakehead  Death by squirmy tentacled parasite. So people are given a
drug, which turns into a parasite, which kills the people, so it can become
a drug which will save other people's lives. That's so Fringe!

 

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RE: [scifinoir2] Weird Food McDonald's Sells Around The World

2009-12-12 Thread Martin Baxter

Adrianne, whoever said that Mickey D's was bad didn't travel. 

And great to see your voice, BTB!

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:14:56 -0500
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weird Food McDonald's Sells Around The World


















 



  



  
  
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On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:

































































  


McDonald's Around The World: Marvels Never Cease, Especially in Asia

If you think McDonald's sells the same burgers and fries everywhere in the 
world, think again – here in Asia they’ve had to make some concessions to local 
tastes and come up with some peculiar fast-food variations on Asian favourites.




It all started with the Samurai Pork Burger. I saw this advertised outside a 
McDonald's in Bangkok back in 2004 and was somewhat perplexed. Why is it a 
Japanese name when I’m in Thailand? And what do Samurai have to do with pork? 
Actually, why is it called Samurai at all? Sadly, I never actually found out 
any of the answers, but it made me start paying closer attention to McDonald's 
every time I went to another country in Asia.








(Samurai Pork Burger, Bangkok, Thailand (left) and Thai Spicy Fish McDippers 
(right) - photos via)

Perhaps more traditional for Thailand, the Thai Spicy Fish McDippers (image 
above right) are a piscine breadcrumb and chili overload. Incidentally, don’t 
actually expect to eat your fast food in Thailand fast – you will inevitably be 
handed your burger but have to wait five minutes for your fries, which will be 
dutifully brought to you – by which time, of course, you’ve eaten your burger…




In Singapore, the national obsession with rice extends to having rice cakes in 
your burger. 





(Rice Burgers, Singapore)

I expected lots of interesting stuff in a Japanese McDonald's – McTentacles 
perhaps – but the menu was disappointingly ordinary. 




Although there were these – Seaweed Flavoured Fries. Also, see below-right: the 
tasty tentacle snack from Japan. Yum.






In Hong Kong, I nearly got arrested for taking this photo of the Green Tea and 
Red Bean Ice Cream Sundae. Didn’t realise they guarded their secret bean recipe 
quite so zealously.





(Green Tea And Red Bean Sundae, Hong Kong)

In Indonesia, as the world’s largest Muslim country, chicken is far more 
popular than beefburgers (and, of course, the Samurai Pork Burger would be 
completely taboo). Hence you get combo sets of chicken, rice and Coke:








Chicken, Rice and Coke, Jakarta, Indonesia 

Perhaps my biggest WTF moment (Weird and Troubling Food, naturally) in a 
McDonald's was in the Philippines, when I spotted the clotted mess that is 
McSpaghetti. (McDo indeed). My Filipino friends explained to me that it was 
incredibly popular and basically consisted of spaghetti soaked in sugar. E.




Let me repeat this: Spaghetti - Soaked In - Sugar!.





McSpaghetti, Philippines 

I also seem to remember that when I first went to Australia in 2003, there was 
a Billabong Burger that had tinned beetroot between two patties. Sadly (or 
perhaps thankfully), I don’t have any photographic evidence, though it tasted 
as grim as it sounds. There was also a similar one called McOz with only one 
patty (plus the tinned beetroot that is ubiquitous in Australia – fresh 
beetroot isn’t nearly as popular).





Spam, Spam, Spam, Eggs, Bacon, and Spam

David Gardner shares his experience: Did you know you can get Spam, eggs, and 
rice for a McDonald’s Breakfast in Honolulu? Yup. Right there on Kalakaua St 
facing Waikiki. Totally cool!




See this classic Monty Python sketch to truly appreciate the irony.







In the middle of Moscow, on a busy Arbat street, you can get a take-out for 
your horse:












Big Macs are a Big Unknown in Chongqing, China

My most memorable experience of McDonald's in Asia, however, is stumbling onto 
a MaccyDs in Chongqing, China. I’d just completed an excruciating trip up the 
Three Gorges on an overloaded passenger boat that played earsplitting soap 
operas the entire journey, and I was in need of comfort food. Chongqing is a 
vast city with a mind-boggling 31,000,000 inhabitants – and that’s just the 
official figure. Arriving there just as dusk 

Re: [scifinoir2] Weird Food McDonald's Sells Around The World

2009-12-12 Thread Mr. Worf
I think the regional food takes a lot of creativity. They didn't mention the
cucumber soda that is sold as well.

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 *McDonald's Around The World: Marvels Never Cease, Especially in Asia

 *If you think McDonald's sells the same burgers and fries everywhere in
 the world, think again – here in Asia they’ve had to make some concessions
 to local tastes and come up with some peculiar fast-food variations on Asian
 favourites.

 It all started with the *Samurai Pork Burger*. I saw this advertised
 outside a McDonald's in Bangkok back in 2004 and was somewhat perplexed. Why
 is it a Japanese name when I’m in Thailand? And what do Samurai have to do
 with pork? Actually, why is it called Samurai at all? Sadly, I never
 actually found out any of the answers, but it made me start paying closer
 attention to McDonald's every time I went to another country in Asia.


 http://lh6.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SvKA4P2fd4I/AAABLp0/uZegIN_17AQ/s640/lkjhlkjhlkjhlk.jpg
 (Samurai Pork Burger, Bangkok, Thailand (left) and Thai Spicy Fish
 McDippers (right) - photos via http://travelhappy.info/)

 Perhaps more traditional for Thailand, the *Thai Spicy Fish McDippers*(image 
 above right) are a piscine breadcrumb and chili overload.
 Incidentally, don’t actually expect to eat your fast food in Thailand fast –
 you will inevitably be handed your burger but have to wait five minutes for
 your fries, which will be dutifully brought to you – by which time, of
 course, you’ve eaten your burger…

 In Singapore, the national obsession with rice extends to having *rice
 cakes in your burger*.


 http://lh5.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SvKA42LvwpI/AAABLp8/ve2XBbU6hkw/s640/poiuypoiupoiup.jpg
 (Rice Burgers, Singapore)

 I expected lots of interesting stuff in a Japanese McDonald's –
 McTentacles perhaps – but the menu was disappointingly ordinary.

 Although there were these – *Seaweed Flavoured Fries*. Also, see
 below-right: the tasty tentacle snack from Japan. Yum.


 http://lh5.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SvKA5Td53mI/AAABLqE/0VKdEIZ6hUk/s640/r5hsdrhdbgc.jpg

 In Hong Kong, I nearly got arrested for taking this photo of the *Green
 Tea and Red Bean Ice Cream Sundae*. Didn’t realise they guarded their
 secret bean recipe quite so zealously.


 http://lh6.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SvKA52nQl5I/AAABLqM/NxUGAjwV6Wo/s640/oiuyoiuyoiuyo.jpg
 (Green Tea And Red Bean Sundae, Hong Kong)

 In Indonesia, as the world’s largest Muslim country, chicken is far more
 popular than beefburgers (and, of course, the Samurai Pork Burger would be
 completely taboo). Hence you get combo sets of chicken, rice and Coke:


 http://lh4.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SvKIOz8GTkI/AAABLss/paNpZ5o1Dto/s640/876tri.jpg
 Chicken, Rice and Coke, Jakarta, Indonesia

 Perhaps my biggest WTF moment (Weird and Troubling Food, naturally) in a
 McDonald's was in the Philippines, when I spotted the clotted mess that is
 *McSpaghetti*. (McDo indeed). My Filipino friends explained to me that it
 was incredibly popular and basically consisted of spaghetti soaked in sugar.
 E.

 Let me repeat this: *Spaghetti - Soaked In - Sugar!*.


 http://lh5.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SvKA7FI2mgI/AAABLqc/PBbCY47wbyU/s640/kiuglkhjulkjhlkj.jpg
 McSpaghetti, Philippines

 I also seem to remember that when I first went to Australia in 2003, there
 was a *Billabong Burger* that had tinned beetroot between two patties.
 Sadly (or perhaps thankfully), I don’t have any photographic evidence,
 though it tasted as grim as it sounds. There was also a similar one called
 *McOz* with only one patty (plus the tinned beetroot that is ubiquitous
 in Australia – fresh beetroot isn’t nearly as popular).


 *Spam, Spam, Spam, Eggs, Bacon, and Spam*

 David Gardner shares his experience: Did you know you can get Spam, eggs,
 and rice for a McDonald’s Breakfast in Honolulu? Yup. Right there on
 Kalakaua St facing Waikiki. Totally cool!

 See this classic Monty Python sketch to truly appreciate the irony.


 http://lh4.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SvKKt3pu86I/AAABLtI/TmSY29kS1qY/s640/oi7to87toyu.jpg


 In the middle of Moscow, on a busy Arbat street, you can get a take-out
 for your horse:


 http://lh5.ggpht.com/_hVOW2U7K4-M/SvKF07V7F6I/AAABLr4/Kr773aWft50/s640/lkjhlkjhlkjhl343.jpg
 

[scifinoir2] Holiday suggestions for Comic Book fans

2009-12-12 Thread Kelwyn
http://www.gazette.com/articles/gifts-89603-every-fan.html

You can brighten the holidays for the comics fan in your life with gifts for 
the bookshelf and the toy box. Here are some suggestions:

• Marvel: The Expanding Universe Wall Chart is a unique coffee-table book 
without a spine. Open it one way and it offers a history of Marvel Comics and 
some short, fun features on Marvel. Open it the other way and it expands into a 
12-by-3 1/2-foot poster featuring more than 300 Marvel characters against an 
atomic design pattern reflecting connections between the characters. (Universe, 
$45)

http://www.gazette.com/articles/gifts-89603-every-fan.html



RE: [scifinoir2] Who else is looking forward to Avatar?

2009-12-12 Thread Martin Baxter

If time will permit.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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Me too!
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  Reviews I've read were generally 
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RE: [scifinoir2] Teen Racks Up $21K Cell Phone Bill

2009-12-12 Thread Martin Baxter

Sound slike this kid did the same kind of hack that my niece did on her cell 
when my sister put her on her account. My sister's bill, normally $68 a month, 
ballooned to almost $700 in one month. (My niece loves to download and text. 
LVS to download and text.)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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RE: [scifinoir2] James Cameron confirms Fantastic Voyage, Battle Angel

2009-12-12 Thread Martin Baxter

I'll just ignore the remake and get happy over Battle Angel Alita.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:00:29 -0800
Subject: [scifinoir2] James Cameron confirms Fantastic Voyage, Battle Angel


















 



  



  
  
  








Avatar, James Cameron's 3-D sci-fi epic, is envisioned as the start
of a franchise, and Cameron confirmed Friday that he has mapped out
sequels for the movie, which is one of the film's he'd direct next—that,
or his long-envisioned film version of the anime Battle Angel Alita.
Cameron, meanwhile, confirmed that he is producing and developing a script
for—but will not direct—a new version of the classic sci-fi movie Fantastic
Voyage, which he promised will be very different.


 

Fantastic Voyage

With regard to sequels to Avatar, which opens on Dec. 18, Cameron
said, We joked about this all the time. We cut to 10 years later, Jake's
[Sam Worthington] kind of fat and sitting in Home Tree and says, 'Honey get me
a beer,' and Neytiri's [Zoe Saldana] like, 'Get your own beer.' You know,
that's kind of the reality of a love story 10 years later [laughs].


Seriously, though, Cameron said in a press conference in London: Actually,
you know, when I pitched this to 20th Century Fox four and a half years ago, I
said, 'You know, we're going to spend a lot of money and time and energy
creating not only a process but the assets, the CG assets, we call them: all
the models of every rock and tree and plant and creature and the muscle rigs
for all the creatures and the facial rigging for the main characters and all
that,' and [that's] huge, millions and millions of dollars. So it really makes
sense to think of it as the potential start of a franchise, if you will, or a
saga that plays out over several acts, each movie being an act of that saga.
And I have it mapped out, but I haven't written the scripts yet. And it all
depends on whether we do well with the first film. But that was certainly the
intention from the beginning: to create a foundation for a persistent
world.


Cameron confirmed to SCI FI Wire after the press conference that he will
produce the new Fantastic Voyage, based on the 1966 sci-fi movie that
starred Raquel Welch, about a team of scientists in a miniaturized submarine
who navigate a human body to zap an inoperable tumor. Well, we've been
working on a script for Fantastic Voyage, but that's not for me to
direct, Cameron said. That's just a produced project, yeah. It's
quite different. But it's got enough of the original story that you'll still
recognize it.


Cameron also confirmed that he's still considering directing Battle Angel 
Alita, based on a manga series that is
also the basis of a popular anime series, about an amnesiac female cyborg who
is discovered in a futuristic dystopian world. Battle Angel is one
of the films I'll be considering when I decide what to do next, Cameron
added.


Does that mean he'd do any Avatar sequel afterwards? Not
necessarily, he said. That's part of the decision-making
process.


Look for more Avatar news and a review on SCI FI Wire soon!


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RE: [scifinoir2] Time-travel movie next for Bowie's director son, Duncan Jones?

2009-12-12 Thread Martin Baxter

No complaints from me. And I'm so glad that the kid changed his name...

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:53:33 -0800
Subject: [scifinoir2] Time-travel movie next for Bowie's director son, Duncan 
Jones?


















 



  



  
  
  








Fresh off his British Independent Film Award wins for Best Film and Best
Debut Director this week for his low-budget mini-masterpiece Moon,
Duncan Jones (formerly known as Zowie Bowie, son of rocker David Bowie) is
gearing up to tackle the SF thriller Source Code. According to a Tweet
from Production
Weekly, Jones will start pre-production in a few weeks and will film this
spring in Montreal.


Variety reports that Source Code is the story of a
soldier who finds himself repeatedly placed in the body of another person just
before the detonation of a bomb on a commuter train. Prince of Persia's
Jake Gyllenhaal, currently starring in the drama Brothers with Natalie
Portman and Tobey Maguire, has been in negotiations to play the lead, replacing
Topher Grace.


SF fans could say that this premise seems like a cocktail of Quantum Leap
Groundhog's Day, and the time-travel show Seven Days. But if Jones
showed such chops taking established SF tropes and making them seem fresh in 
Moon,
do you think he can pull off the premise of Source Code?


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RE: [scifinoir2] It's Complicated

2009-12-12 Thread Martin Baxter

Tracey, it was on one of the Showtimes last week, and I had to run out the door 
on a late errand, ended up missing more than half of it, so I'm just waiting 
for the next showing. Supposed to be tomorrow morning.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:08:17 -0800
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] It's Complicated


















 



  



  
  
  I liked doubt. Anyone see it?



-Original Message-

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of Kelwyn

Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 5:40 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [scifinoir2] It's Complicated



http://blackplush.blogspot.com/2009/12/its-complicated.html



It's Complicated is the title of a new Meryl Streep movie and a succinct

synopsis of the dilemma facing actresses of a certain age.  Meryl Streep is

sixty and, while she continues to age beautifully, you are not impressed in

the same way you are when someone mentions that Diane Keaton is 63 or that

Dame Helen Mirren is 64 (and still posing in bikinis).  In other words, no

exclamation points will ensue.  Still, like Scott Baio being 46 and

pregnant, Meryl Steep  headlining movies at 60 years of age is both

remarkable and noteworthy.  



Not only is Meryl Streep starring in movies, she is starring in

blockbusters.  Her last three movies have a combined worldwide box office of

$777 million, and that includes the rather paltry $50 million Doubt

brought in. 

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RE: [scifinoir2] Outer Limits Marathon on SyFy

2009-12-12 Thread Martin Baxter

If memory serves, Keith, that trial was because she'd dared to use technology 
in a post-WWIII world where it had been outlawed. And I'm missing anthology 
series as well.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:00:40 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Outer Limits Marathon on SyFy


















 



  



  
  
  
Yeah, the clip shows they used to connect completely disparate eps of Outer 
Limits were an abomination. I remember them trying to connect the ep about the 
lady who traveled through time to kill future criminals. There's also an older 
actor, a very slim man who guest starred in a couple of eps. They tried to 
weave his shows in too. In fact, I completely skipped the series finale, where 
Charleton Heston and others have some kind of trial. What was up with that?

 

Gosh, i'm really missing anthology shows! I'm getting really nostalgic, 
thinking about everything from Alfred Hitchcok Presents, to Creepshow, from 
Friday the 13th to A Touch of Evil, Tales from the Darkside to Amazing Stories. 
Not all were great shows, but I miss the concept.


- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 4:47:56 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Outer Limits Marathon on SyFy



  




It was good stuff. They did weaken a bit when they tried to string together 
several of the common story lines using clip shows. (shudder) And I've been 
trying to watch Enterprise, but I just had a stampede of teenagers through my 
living room. My synapses were using smoke signals to communicate.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik







To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:05:42 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Outer Limits Marathon on SyFy

  




Sorry you missed it. Good shows.  You know, I realize how much i miss good 
scifi anthology series. One problem I have with all the shows on the tube 
now--good and bad--is that it's the same universe week after week. Shows like 
Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, etc., created completely new worlds each week, 
with different subject matter and different actors. Just in the brief marathon 
I saw today, I got to enjoy Rebecca DeMornay, John Savage, Timothy Bussfield, 
and a host of character actors from all over the place.  Really miss that 
format
 
And, there's a decent ep of Enterprise on now.  It was toward the end of the 
Xindi storyline, where some of the shows were actually not bad at all. After 
the time travel foolishness (the exploding sphere, then Archer's in a 
Nazi-occupied NYC???) the show got much better.
 

- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:54:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Outer Limits Marathon on SyFy

  



And guess who wanders in with six minutes left in the marathon?

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik







To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:08:31 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Outer Limits Marathon on SyFy

  




SyFy is running an Outer Limits marathon right now. They're running the eps 
from the second series from the '90s, not the original black-and-white eps. I 
will say, I always enjoyed this series. Unlike Twilight Zone, Outer Limits 
seemed to me to have a higher quality remake. Zone was very hit-and-miss in 
both its reincarnations, but Limits was in the main very enjoyable. Perhaps 
it's because Limits tended to be more straightforward scifi, where Zone dealt 
with supernatural as well? Or maybe no one could do it as well as Serling?
At any rate, they've shown some good ones so for. The one on now starts with a 
demonic looking teddy bear pulling a little boy under his bed into limbo. Gotta 
admit: that little toy with its glowing red eyes was downright creepy!






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RE: [scifinoir2] [Norway Cloud Spiral]

2009-12-12 Thread Martin Baxter

Mr Worf, I've been a conspiracy theorist since I turned 15. I doubt everything 
I first hear, when it comes to such things.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:39:02 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Norway Cloud Spiral]


















 



  



  
  
  Its possible but I have never seen blue flames for that long of a 
distance. Have you? Putin is still on his Russian superiority kick though. I 
wouldn't be surprised that he has started a new missile program.



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wrote:


























Russian missile test... okay. 

Suuure...

And I like Pat Buchanan.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:45:20 -0800
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Russian
Nuclear Missile Test Fails, Visible In Norway
- NYT - Dec 10, 2009

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia admitted on Thursday another failed test of
its much-touted Bulava intercontinental missile, after unusual lights
were spotted in Norway across the border from the launch site.






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[scifinoir2] Enroute to the sixth extinction

2009-12-12 Thread Kelwyn
atimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-corwin30-2009nov30,0,7760875.story

latimes.com

Opinion

The sixth extinction

Somewhere on Earth, every 20 minutes, one animal species dies out. At this 
rate, we will lose 50% of all species by the end of the century. Time is 
running out to turn the tide.

By Jeff Corwin

November 30, 2009


There is a holocaust happening. Right now. And it's not confined to one nation 
or even one region. It is a global crisis. 

Species are going extinct en masse.

Every 20 minutes we lose an animal species. If this rate continues, by 
century's end, 50% of all living species will be gone. It is a phenomenon known 
as the sixth extinction. The fifth extinction took place 65 million years ago 
when a meteor smashed into the Earth, killing off the dinosaurs and many other 
species and opening the door for the rise of mammals. Currently, the sixth 
extinction is on track to dwarf the fifth. 

What -- or more correctly -- who is to blame this time? As Pogo said, We have 
met the enemy, and he is us. 

The causes of this mass die-off are many: overpopulation, loss of habitat, 
global warming, species exploitation (the black market for rare animal parts is 
the third-largest illegal trade in the world, outranked only by weapons and 
drugs). The list goes on, but it all points to us. 

Over the last 15 years, in the course of producing television documentaries and 
writing about wildlife, I have traveled the globe, and I have witnessed the 
grim carnage firsthand. I've observed the same story playing out in different 
locales. 

In South Africa, off the coast of Cape Horn, lives one of the most feared 
predators of all -- the great white shark. Yet this awesome creature is 
powerless before the mindless killing spree that is decimating its species at 
the jaw-dropping rate of 100 million sharks a year. Many are captured so that 
their dorsal fins can be chopped off (for shark fin soup). Then, still alive, 
they are dropped back into the sea, where they die a slow and painful death. 

Further east, in Indonesia, I witnessed the mass destruction of rain forests to 
make way for palm oil plantations. Indonesia is now the world's leading 
producer of palm oil -- a product used in many packaged foods and cosmetic 
goods -- and the victims are the Sumatran elephant and orangutan. These 
beautiful creatures are on the brink of extinction as their habitats go up in 
smoke, further warming our planet in the process. 

One day while swimming off the coast of Indonesia, I came across a river of 
refuse and raw sewage stretching for miles. These streams and islands of refuse 
now populate all our oceans; in the middle of the Pacific, there is an island 
of garbage the size of Texas. This floating pollution serves to choke off and 
kill sea turtles -- driving them closer to extinction. At the same time, the 
coral reefs where sea turtles get their food supply are dying due to rising sea 
temperatures from global warming. To top it off, sea turtles are hunted and 
killed for their meat -- considered a delicacy in many Asian countries. It is 
an ugly but altogether effective one-two-three punch for this unique species. 

It's important to understand that this is not just a race to save a handful of 
charismatic species -- animals to which we attach human-inspired values or 
characteristics. Who wouldn't want to save the sea otter, polar bear, giant 
panda or gorilla? These striking mammals tug at our heartstrings and often our 
charitable purse strings. But our actions need to be just as swift and 
determined when it comes to the valley elderberry longhorn beetle or the 
distinctly uncuddly, pebbly-skinned Puerto Rican crested toad or the 
black-footed ferret, whose fate is inextricably intertwined with that of the 
prairie dog. The reality is that each species, no matter how big, small, 
friendly or vicious, plays an important and essential role in its ecosystem. 
And we're in a race to preserve as much of the animal kingdom as possible.

Meanwhile, around the planet there are massive die-offs of amphibians, the 
canaries in our global coal mine. When frogs and other amphibians, which have 
existed for hundreds of millions of years, start to vanish, it is a sign that 
our natural world is in a state of peril. Bat and bee populations are also 
being decimated. Without bees, there will be no pollination, and without 
pollination, the predator that is decimating these other species -- humankind 
-- will also be headed toward its own extinction. Yes, there is a certain irony 
there. 

This was all brought home to me in an intimate way after a recent trip to 
Panama. My young daughter, Maya, asked if she could accompany me on my next 
trip there so that she could see one of her favorite animals -- the 
http://frogPanamanian golden frog -- up close and personal in the jungle. 
Sadly, I had to tell her no. This small, beautiful frog -- the national symbol 
of Panama -- no longer exists in the wild. Only a few live 

[scifinoir2] Enroute to the sixth extinction

2009-12-12 Thread Amy Harlib

ahar...@earthlink.net
Thanks for this, passing it on.

Enroute to the sixth extinction


atimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-corwin30-2009nov30,0,7760875.story

latimes.com

Opinion

The sixth extinction

Somewhere on Earth, every 20 minutes, one animal species dies out. At this 
rate, we will lose 50% of all species by the end of the century. Time is 
running out to turn the tide.

By Jeff Corwin

November 30, 2009


There is a holocaust happening. Right now. And it's not confined to one 
nation or even one region. It is a global crisis.

Species are going extinct en masse.

Every 20 minutes we lose an animal species. If this rate continues, by 
century's end, 50% of all living species will be gone. It is a phenomenon 
known as the sixth extinction. The fifth extinction took place 65 million 
years ago when a meteor smashed into the Earth, killing off the dinosaurs 
and many other species and opening the door for the rise of mammals. 
Currently, the sixth extinction is on track to dwarf the fifth.

What -- or more correctly -- who is to blame this time? As Pogo said, We 
have met the enemy, and he is us.

The causes of this mass die-off are many: overpopulation, loss of habitat, 
global warming, species exploitation (the black market for rare animal parts 
is the third-largest illegal trade in the world, outranked only by weapons 
and drugs). The list goes on, but it all points to us.

Over the last 15 years, in the course of producing television documentaries 
and writing about wildlife, I have traveled the globe, and I have witnessed 
the grim carnage firsthand. I've observed the same story playing out in 
different locales.

In South Africa, off the coast of Cape Horn, lives one of the most feared 
predators of all -- the great white shark. Yet this awesome creature is 
powerless before the mindless killing spree that is decimating its species 
at the jaw-dropping rate of 100 million sharks a year. Many are captured so 
that their dorsal fins can be chopped off (for shark fin soup). Then, still 
alive, they are dropped back into the sea, where they die a slow and painful 
death.

Further east, in Indonesia, I witnessed the mass destruction of rain forests 
to make way for palm oil plantations. Indonesia is now the world's leading 
producer of palm oil -- a product used in many packaged foods and cosmetic 
goods -- and the victims are the Sumatran elephant and orangutan. These 
beautiful creatures are on the brink of extinction as their habitats go up 
in smoke, further warming our planet in the process.

One day while swimming off the coast of Indonesia, I came across a river of 
refuse and raw sewage stretching for miles. These streams and islands of 
refuse now populate all our oceans; in the middle of the Pacific, there is 
an island of garbage the size of Texas. This floating pollution serves to 
choke off and kill sea turtles -- driving them closer to extinction. At the 
same time, the coral reefs where sea turtles get their food supply are dying 
due to rising sea temperatures from global warming. To top it off, sea 
turtles are hunted and killed for their meat -- considered a delicacy in 
many Asian countries. It is an ugly but altogether effective one-two-three 
punch for this unique species.

It's important to understand that this is not just a race to save a handful 
of charismatic species -- animals to which we attach human-inspired values 
or characteristics. Who wouldn't want to save the sea otter, polar bear, 
giant panda or gorilla? These striking mammals tug at our heartstrings and 
often our charitable purse strings. But our actions need to be just as swift 
and determined when it comes to the valley elderberry longhorn beetle or the 
distinctly uncuddly, pebbly-skinned Puerto Rican crested toad or the 
black-footed ferret, whose fate is inextricably intertwined with that of the 
prairie dog. The reality is that each species, no matter how big, small, 
friendly or vicious, plays an important and essential role in its ecosystem. 
And we're in a race to preserve as much of the animal kingdom as possible.

Meanwhile, around the planet there are massive die-offs of amphibians, the 
canaries in our global coal mine. When frogs and other amphibians, which 
have existed for hundreds of millions of years, start to vanish, it is a 
sign that our natural world is in a state of peril. Bat and bee populations 
are also being decimated. Without bees, there will be no pollination, and 
without pollination, the predator that is decimating these other species --  
humankind -- will also be headed toward its own extinction. Yes, there is a 
certain irony there.

This was all brought home to me in an intimate way after a recent trip to 
Panama. My young daughter, Maya, asked if she could accompany me on my next 
trip there so that she could see one of her favorite animals -- the 
http://frogPanamanian golden frog -- up close and personal in the jungle. 
Sadly, I had to tell her no. This small, 

RE: [scifinoir2] Enroute to the sixth extinction

2009-12-12 Thread Martin Baxter

And the horrifying part is that so few people in power seem willing to admit 
that the crisis even exists. I was watching something on Animal Planet 
yesterday, and they were discussing the ivory trade, and how an international 
treaty meant to protect elephant slaughter by banning the sale of ivory had 
been, in '96, casually set aside for three countries. One day, there'll be 
generations who'll see pictures of these grand creatures in books and say, I 
wonder what they were like in real life... 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:20:08 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Enroute to the sixth extinction


















 



  



  
  
  atimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-corwin30-2009nov30,0,7760875.story



latimes.com



Opinion



The sixth extinction



Somewhere on Earth, every 20 minutes, one animal species dies out. At this 
rate, we will lose 50% of all species by the end of the century. Time is 
running out to turn the tide.



By Jeff Corwin



November 30, 2009



There is a holocaust happening. Right now. And it's not confined to one nation 
or even one region. It is a global crisis. 



Species are going extinct en masse.



Every 20 minutes we lose an animal species. If this rate continues, by 
century's end, 50% of all living species will be gone. It is a phenomenon known 
as the sixth extinction. The fifth extinction took place 65 million years ago 
when a meteor smashed into the Earth, killing off the dinosaurs and many other 
species and opening the door for the rise of mammals. Currently, the sixth 
extinction is on track to dwarf the fifth. 



What -- or more correctly -- who is to blame this time? As Pogo said, We have 
met the enemy, and he is us. 



The causes of this mass die-off are many: overpopulation, loss of habitat, 
global warming, species exploitation (the black market for rare animal parts is 
the third-largest illegal trade in the world, outranked only by weapons and 
drugs). The list goes on, but it all points to us. 



Over the last 15 years, in the course of producing television documentaries and 
writing about wildlife, I have traveled the globe, and I have witnessed the 
grim carnage firsthand. I've observed the same story playing out in different 
locales. 



In South Africa, off the coast of Cape Horn, lives one of the most feared 
predators of all -- the great white shark. Yet this awesome creature is 
powerless before the mindless killing spree that is decimating its species at 
the jaw-dropping rate of 100 million sharks a year. Many are captured so that 
their dorsal fins can be chopped off (for shark fin soup). Then, still alive, 
they are dropped back into the sea, where they die a slow and painful death. 



Further east, in Indonesia, I witnessed the mass destruction of rain forests to 
make way for palm oil plantations. Indonesia is now the world's leading 
producer of palm oil -- a product used in many packaged foods and cosmetic 
goods -- and the victims are the Sumatran elephant and orangutan. These 
beautiful creatures are on the brink of extinction as their habitats go up in 
smoke, further warming our planet in the process. 



One day while swimming off the coast of Indonesia, I came across a river of 
refuse and raw sewage stretching for miles. These streams and islands of refuse 
now populate all our oceans; in the middle of the Pacific, there is an island 
of garbage the size of Texas. This floating pollution serves to choke off and 
kill sea turtles -- driving them closer to extinction. At the same time, the 
coral reefs where sea turtles get their food supply are dying due to rising sea 
temperatures from global warming. To top it off, sea turtles are hunted and 
killed for their meat -- considered a delicacy in many Asian countries. It is 
an ugly but altogether effective one-two-three punch for this unique species. 



It's important to understand that this is not just a race to save a handful of 
charismatic species -- animals to which we attach human-inspired values or 
characteristics. Who wouldn't want to save the sea otter, polar bear, giant 
panda or gorilla? These striking mammals tug at our heartstrings and often our 
charitable purse strings. But our actions need to be just as swift and 
determined when it comes to the valley elderberry longhorn beetle or the 
distinctly uncuddly, pebbly-skinned Puerto Rican crested toad or the 
black-footed ferret, whose fate is inextricably intertwined with that of the 
prairie dog. The reality is that each species, no matter how big, small, 
friendly or vicious, plays an important and essential role in its ecosystem. 
And we're in a race to preserve as much of the animal kingdom as possible.



Meanwhile, around the planet there are massive die-offs of amphibians, the 

RE: [scifinoir2] Holiday suggestions for Comic Book fans

2009-12-12 Thread Martin Baxter

Right now, Keith is showing this e-mail to his wife... 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:42:12 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Holiday suggestions for Comic Book fans


















 



  



  
  
  http://www.gazette.com/articles/gifts-89603-every-fan.html



You can brighten the holidays for the comics fan in your life with gifts for 
the bookshelf and the toy box. Here are some suggestions:



• Marvel: The Expanding Universe Wall Chart is a unique coffee-table book 
without a spine. Open it one way and it offers a history of Marvel Comics and 
some short, fun features on Marvel. Open it the other way and it expands into a 
12-by-3 1/2-foot poster featuring more than 300 Marvel characters against an 
atomic design pattern reflecting connections between the characters. (Universe, 
$45)



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Re: [scifinoir2] Teen Racks Up $21K Cell Phone Bill

2009-12-12 Thread Mr. Worf
If you watch youtube on your phone that could start to add up really fast.
The amount that they are talking about is about 2 movies worth of
downloading.

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Martin Baxter
truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote:



 Sound slike this kid did the same kind of hack that my niece did on her
 cell when my sister put her on her account. My sister's bill, normally $68 a
 month, ballooned to almost $700 in one month. (My niece loves to download
 and text. LVS to download and text.)


 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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 From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
 Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:13:43 -0800
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Teen Racks Up $21K Cell Phone Bill


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[scifinoir2] The Golden Child

2009-12-12 Thread Kelwyn
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2406228/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2406228/posts
  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2406228/posts Obama as a
child and, in a startling precognition, already wearing his yet to be
awarded Nobel Peace Prize!

~rave!

  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2406228/posts




Re: [scifinoir2] Time-travel movie next for Bowie's director son, Duncan Jones?

2009-12-12 Thread Mr. Worf
David Bowie's real name is David Jones. He changed his names after the
Monkees became famous. I think it helped his career a bit. They will
probably be trotting out his christmas duet with Bing Crosby soon.

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Martin Baxter
truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote:



 No complaints from me. And I'm so glad that the kid changed his name...

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
 Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:53:33 -0800
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Time-travel movie next for Bowie's director son,
 Duncan Jones?



 Fresh off his British Independent Film Award wins for Best Film and Best
 Debut Director this week for his low-budget mini-masterpiece *Moon*,
 Duncan Jones (formerly known as Zowie Bowie, son of rocker David Bowie) is
 gearing up to tackle the SF thriller *Source Code*. According to a Tweet
 from Production Weekly http://twitter.com/prodweek/status/6555467682,
 Jones will start pre-production in a few weeks and will film this spring in
 Montreal.
 Varietyhttp://www.variety.com/article/VR1118011029.html?categoryid=13cs=1reports
  that
 *Source Code* is the story of a soldier who finds himself repeatedly
 placed in the body of another person just before the detonation of a bomb on
 a commuter train. *Prince of Persia*'s Jake Gyllenhaal, currently starring
 in the drama *Brothers* with Natalie Portman and Tobey Maguire, has been
 in negotiations to play the lead, replacing Topher Grace.
 SF fans could say that this premise seems like a cocktail of *Quantum Leap
 Groundhog's Day*, and the time-travel show *Seven Days*. But if Jones
 showed such chops taking established SF tropes and making them seem fresh in
 *Moon*, do you think he can pull off the premise of *Source Code*?

 http://scifiwire.com/2009/12/whats-next-for-moon-direc.php#more


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[scifinoir2] Re: Time-travel movie next for Bowie's director son, Duncan Jones?

2009-12-12 Thread Kelwyn
I did not know this (and this is the kind of ephemera I traffic in).

~rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:

 David Bowie's real name is David Jones. He changed his names after the
 Monkees became famous. I think it helped his career a bit. They will
 probably be trotting out his christmas duet with Bing Crosby soon.
 
 On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Martin Baxter
 truthseeker...@...wrote:
 
 
 
  No complaints from me. And I'm so glad that the kid changed his name...
 
  If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
  bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
 
 
 
 
  --
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  From: tdli...@...
  Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:53:33 -0800
  Subject: [scifinoir2] Time-travel movie next for Bowie's director son,
  Duncan Jones?
 
 
 
  Fresh off his British Independent Film Award wins for Best Film and Best
  Debut Director this week for his low-budget mini-masterpiece *Moon*,
  Duncan Jones (formerly known as Zowie Bowie, son of rocker David Bowie) is
  gearing up to tackle the SF thriller *Source Code*. According to a Tweet
  from Production Weekly http://twitter.com/prodweek/status/6555467682,
  Jones will start pre-production in a few weeks and will film this spring in
  Montreal.
  Varietyhttp://www.variety.com/article/VR1118011029.html?categoryid=13cs=1reports
   that
  *Source Code* is the story of a soldier who finds himself repeatedly
  placed in the body of another person just before the detonation of a bomb on
  a commuter train. *Prince of Persia*'s Jake Gyllenhaal, currently starring
  in the drama *Brothers* with Natalie Portman and Tobey Maguire, has been
  in negotiations to play the lead, replacing Topher Grace.
  SF fans could say that this premise seems like a cocktail of *Quantum Leap
  Groundhog's Day*, and the time-travel show *Seven Days*. But if Jones
  showed such chops taking established SF tropes and making them seem fresh in
  *Moon*, do you think he can pull off the premise of *Source Code*?
 
  http://scifiwire.com/2009/12/whats-next-for-moon-direc.php#more
 
 
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[scifinoir2] HOW TO make a $300 high-speed book scanner

2009-12-12 Thread Kelwyn
http://www.boingboing.net/2009/04/20/howo-make-a-300-high.html
http://www.boingboing.net/2009/04/20/howo-make-a-300-high.html
  http://www.boingboing.net/2009/04/20/howo-make-a-300-high.html It's
funny.  Just today I was telling my daughter how I had a tooth for the
new Kindle DX  but how I couldn't see spending $500 for one.  My
pragmatic daughter asked me if the books were free and, when I told her
you still had to purchase the electronic books, she was less than
impressed.   I guess I am not getting one for Christmas.

~rave!

  http://www.boingboing.net/2009/04/20/howo-make-a-300-high.html





[scifinoir2] Reformed Alien in Raisin Bran Commercial

2009-12-12 Thread Kelwyn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByyJYiqo_eQfeature=player_embedded#



Re: [scifinoir2] Outer Limits Marathon on SyFy

2009-12-12 Thread Keith Johnson


okay, thanks for the explanation. 


- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 4:12:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Outer Limits Marathon on SyFy 

  




If memory serves, Keith, that trial was because she'd dared to use technology 
in a post-WWIII world where it had been outlawed. And I'm missing anthology 
series as well. 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:00:40 + 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Outer Limits Marathon on SyFy 

  




Yeah, the clip shows they used to connect completely disparate eps of Outer 
Limits were an abomination. I remember them trying to connect the ep about the 
lady who traveled through time to kill future criminals. There's also an older 
actor, a very slim man who guest starred in a couple of eps. They tried to 
weave his shows in too. In fact, I completely skipped the series finale, where 
Charleton Heston and others have some kind of trial. What was up with that? 
  
Gosh, i'm really missing anthology shows! I'm getting really nostalgic, 
thinking about everything from Alfred Hitchcok Presents, to Creepshow, from 
Friday the 13th to A Touch of Evil, Tales from the Darkside to Amazing Stories. 
Not all were great shows, but I miss the concept. 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 4:47:56 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Outer Limits Marathon on SyFy 

  



It was good stuff. They did weaken a bit when they tried to string together 
several of the common story lines using clip shows. (shudder) And I've been 
trying to watch Enterprise, but I just had a stampede of teenagers through my 
living room. My synapses were using smoke signals to communicate. 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 






To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:05:42 + 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Outer Limits Marathon on SyFy 

  




Sorry you missed it. Good shows.  You know, I realize how much i miss good 
scifi anthology series. One problem I have with all the shows on the tube 
now--good and bad--is that it's the same universe week after week. Shows like 
Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, etc., created completely new worlds each week, 
with different subject matter and different actors. Just in the brief marathon 
I saw today, I got to enjoy Rebecca DeMornay, John Savage, Timothy Bussfield, 
and a host of character actors from all over the place.  Really miss that 
format 
  
And, there's a decent ep of Enterprise on now.  It was toward the end of the 
Xindi storyline, where some of the shows were actually not bad at all. After 
the time travel foolishness (the exploding sphere, then Archer's in a 
Nazi-occupied NYC???) the show got much better. 
  

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:54:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Outer Limits Marathon on SyFy 

  



And guess who wanders in with six minutes left in the marathon? 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 






To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:08:31 + 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Outer Limits Marathon on SyFy 

  




SyFy is running an Outer Limits marathon right now. They're running the eps 
from the second series from the '90s, not the original black-and-white eps. I 
will say, I always enjoyed this series. Unlike Twilight Zone, Outer Limits 
seemed to me to have a higher quality remake. Zone was very hit-and-miss in 
both its reincarnations, but Limits was in the main very enjoyable. Perhaps 
it's because Limits tended to be more straightforward scifi, where Zone dealt 
with supernatural as well? Or maybe no one could do it as well as Serling? 
At any rate, they've shown some good ones so for. The one on now starts with a 
demonic looking teddy bear pulling a little boy under his bed into limbo. Gotta 
admit: that little toy with its glowing red eyes was downright creepy! 





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[scifinoir2] Is the movie its a wonderful life a scifi movie?

2009-12-12 Thread Mr. Worf
Can we count the Christmas classic Its a wonderful life as a scifi movie?
It has the following:

1. A ghost or angel
2. attempted suicide and redemption
3. Near death experience
3. Alternate universe / time line
4. police chase

I could go on, but what do you think?


Re: [scifinoir2] Is the movie its a wonderful life a scifi movie?

2009-12-12 Thread Keith Johnson


all those things fall under the mystical or supernatural, so I wouldn't call it 
scifi in standard definition of the term. It depends on a belief in a Christian 
god, which isn't universal, and as such, can't be proved. One could write a 
story dealing with advanced beings with all the appearances of angels--indeed, 
many, many scifi stories center around such beings, from Stargate's Ascended 
beings to the Vorlons of Babylon 5.  But those specifically deal with beings of 
science that are evolved past us through scientific fact or extrapolation, 
while this movie is based on faith, belief, and mysticism. 




- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:55:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Is the movie its a wonderful life a scifi movie? 

  




Can we count the Christmas classic Its a wonderful life as a scifi movie? It 
has the following: 

1. A ghost or angel 
2. attempted suicide and redemption 
3. Near death experience 
3. Alternate universe / time line 
4. police chase 

I could go on, but what do you think? 





Re: [scifinoir2] Enroute to the sixth extinction

2009-12-12 Thread Mr. Worf
In Zimbabwe the government has been in a serious war against poachers that
have been trying to hunt down every gorilla that they can find. I think the
real problem is that we have many people that have gotten caught between the
old way of doing things and the capitalistic system. You can have a people
that still live in villages but they can no longer hunt, fish or farm for
food because the land has been bought by corporations. This forces people to
move to cities to make money.

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Martin Baxter
truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote:



 And the horrifying part is that so few people in power seem willing to
 admit that the crisis even exists. I was watching something on Animal Planet
 yesterday, and they were discussing the ivory trade, and how an
 international treaty meant to protect elephant slaughter by banning the sale
 of ivory had been, in '96, casually set aside for three countries. One day,
 there'll be generations who'll see pictures of these grand creatures in
 books and say, I wonder what they were like in real life...

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
 bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: ravena...@yahoo.com
 Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:20:08 +
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Enroute to the sixth extinction


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 latimes.com

 Opinion

 The sixth extinction

 Somewhere on Earth, every 20 minutes, one animal species dies out. At this
 rate, we will lose 50% of all species by the end of the century. Time is
 running out to turn the tide.

 By Jeff Corwin

 November 30, 2009

 There is a holocaust happening. Right now. And it's not confined to one
 nation or even one region. It is a global crisis.

 Species are going extinct en masse.

 Every 20 minutes we lose an animal species. If this rate continues, by
 century's end, 50% of all living species will be gone. It is a phenomenon
 known as the sixth extinction. The fifth extinction took place 65 million
 years ago when a meteor smashed into the Earth, killing off the dinosaurs
 and many other species and opening the door for the rise of mammals.
 Currently, the sixth extinction is on track to dwarf the fifth.

 What -- or more correctly -- who is to blame this time? As Pogo said, We
 have met the enemy, and he is us.

 The causes of this mass die-off are many: overpopulation, loss of habitat,
 global warming, species exploitation (the black market for rare animal parts
 is the third-largest illegal trade in the world, outranked only by weapons
 and drugs). The list goes on, but it all points to us.

 Over the last 15 years, in the course of producing television documentaries
 and writing about wildlife, I have traveled the globe, and I have witnessed
 the grim carnage firsthand. I've observed the same story playing out in
 different locales.

 In South Africa, off the coast of Cape Horn, lives one of the most feared
 predators of all -- the great white shark. Yet this awesome creature is
 powerless before the mindless killing spree that is decimating its species
 at the jaw-dropping rate of 100 million sharks a year. Many are captured so
 that their dorsal fins can be chopped off (for shark fin soup). Then, still
 alive, they are dropped back into the sea, where they die a slow and painful
 death.

 Further east, in Indonesia, I witnessed the mass destruction of rain
 forests to make way for palm oil plantations. Indonesia is now the world's
 leading producer of palm oil -- a product used in many packaged foods and
 cosmetic goods -- and the victims are the Sumatran elephant and orangutan.
 These beautiful creatures are on the brink of extinction as their habitats
 go up in smoke, further warming our planet in the process.

 One day while swimming off the coast of Indonesia, I came across a river of
 refuse and raw sewage stretching for miles. These streams and islands of
 refuse now populate all our oceans; in the middle of the Pacific, there is
 an island of garbage the size of Texas. This floating pollution serves to
 choke off and kill sea turtles -- driving them closer to extinction. At the
 same time, the coral reefs where sea turtles get their food supply are dying
 due to rising sea temperatures from global warming. To top it off, sea
 turtles are hunted and killed for their meat -- considered a delicacy in
 many Asian countries. It is an ugly but altogether effective one-two-three
 punch for this unique species.

 It's important to understand that this is not just a race to save a handful
 of charismatic species -- animals to which we attach human-inspired values
 or characteristics. Who wouldn't want to save the sea otter, polar bear,
 giant panda or gorilla? These striking mammals tug at our heartstrings and
 often our charitable purse strings. But our actions need to be just as swift
 

Re: [scifinoir2] Is the movie its a wonderful life a scifi movie?

2009-12-12 Thread Mr. Worf
Considering that it was 1946 I don't think that they would have taken any
other route. Stuff like that didn't appear until Creepshow and the Twilight
zone. The early censors would have shut them down.

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Keith Johnson
keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 all those things fall under the mystical or supernatural, so I wouldn't
 call it scifi in standard definition of the term. It depends on a belief in
 a Christian god, which isn't universal, and as such, can't be proved. One
 could write a story dealing with advanced beings with all the appearances of
 angels--indeed, many, many scifi stories center around such beings, from
 Stargate's Ascended beings to the Vorlons of Babylon 5.  But those
 specifically deal with beings of science that are evolved past us through
 scientific fact or extrapolation, while this movie is based on faith,
 belief, and mysticism.




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 From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
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 Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:55:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Is the movie its a wonderful life a scifi movie?



 Can we count the Christmas classic Its a wonderful life as a scifi movie?
 It has the following:

 1. A ghost or angel
 2. attempted suicide and redemption
 3. Near death experience
 3. Alternate universe / time line
 4. police chase

 I could go on, but what do you think?




 




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