RE: [scifinoir2] Voyagerr's Tome Paris is Executive Producer of Chuck

[Tracey de Morsella]

OK.  You seem in the know, what is Avery Brooks Story.  I hear he still does 
some theatre, but not as much as you would think.

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 11:43 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Voyagerr's Tome Paris is Executive Producer of Chuck

 



It looks like he took a couple of years off. With the article I read yesterday 
maybe he got tired of the game. 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
 wrote:

 

I saw that he was working, but not as much directing as he had being doing.  
However, it may not be his thing.  I am glad he is working

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 11:24 PM


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Voyagerr's Tome Paris is Executive Producer of Chuck

 



He seems to be working doing a lot of voice over and host stuff. 
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm996/

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
 wrote:

 

Cool.  Unfortunately, I do not think Levar Burton is doing so well on that front

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 10:27 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Voyagerr's Tome Paris is Executive Producer of Chuck

 



IMDB said that she produces Cold Case. Before that she produced Crossing 
Jordan. She directed Cold Case, Crossing Jordan and episodes of Heroes etc. So 
she's doing ok. 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
 wrote:

 

Got my husband hooked so now we watch Chuck.  I was reading the credits and saw 
that in addition to directing, Robert Duncan Mc Neil (the guy who played Tom 
Paris) is also co-executive producer with “oh so talented McG”

 

Anyone know whether the woman who played B’Lanna Torres is doing well with her 
directing career?

 

 

 






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RE: [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills?

[Tracey de Morsella]

You have just confirmed my brief experiences being up close and personal with 
wind farms.I think they are kind of whimsical.  

 

They are doing a lot of solar farms out near you.  I mostly know as a result of 
tracking new projects and funding.  Have you seen anything yet.

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 11:35 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills?

 



In the bay area (you probably know about them) there is a large wind farm with 
50 or 100ft tall windmills with huge blades. You can drive up to them and get 
close to them. Even when you are near 20 or so of them you barely hear them. 
Its just a pleasant woosh / mechanical sound. You hear more noise from the 
freeway. A few miles from me is a windmill that is connected to someone's house 
with a 6ft blade span. It spins at a higher rate so the pitch is higher. The 
higher pitch would make it harder to hear across the street from it.  

If you are out in the middle of nowhere and there is little to no ambient sound 
at night then I guess they would be considered loud. But if you are nearly a 
mile away from them you probably wouldn't hear them at all. 

I like the solar farms that they are doing in Spain. (focused light to a tower 
with a steam generator) 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
 wrote:

 

Property values is another issue.  My husband reminded me that studies in 
Europe have shown that the presence of a wind farm does not lower property 
values.  I personally would be much more inclined to buy property near a wind 
farm than a power line

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:57 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills?

 



I will check out the articles. One thing that I thought was odd was that the 
owner of the windmill company said that there was a client that was having 
problems from his neighbors although he had 3500 acres of land around him. That 
made me automatically think that the people that were protesting were lying. 
Audible sound waves wouldn't travel that far, and they wouldn't be able to hear 
the low frequency waves. 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
 wrote:

 

Worf:

 

You know that renewable energy is my business.  So, I could not resist 
responding.  We have a lot of articles on our portal on wind.  You can view 
them here.  
http://greeneconomypost.com/category/green-business/wind-energy-green-business

Unfortunately, we do not have a lot on the opposition to it. 

 

However most opposition to wind and other forms of renewable energy have been 
artificially created.  The main culprit is the oils companies with ExxonMobil 
leading the charge.  I do not have the most recent numbers but ExxonMobil has a 
history of funding groups that have misrepresented the science of climate 
change by outright denial of the evidence.   According to a study conducted by 
the Union of Concerned 

  Scientists in 2007, ExxonMobil had spent over $16 million to fund climate 
change skeptic groups as part of a “tobacco-like disinformation campaign on 
global warming science.” They have continued to channel money to these groups.  
These climate change skeptic groups work to scare people away from believing 
climate change and to make them think that programs that address it will ruin 
they economy, steal jobs, etc.

 

I wrote an analysis debunking their latest investment in this cause.

Debunking The Spanish Study on The Dire Result of Green Jobs Creation 

http://greeneconomypost.com/debunk-spanish-study-green-jobs-1582.htm

 

There are some legitimate concerns that people should have about windmills.  
The following are the two that I am aware of:

 

Killing birds.  If you build a wind farm in the migration path of specific bird 
species, they will die when the fly into them.  Having learned from the past.  
Most wind energy companies study the bird flight patterns and do not build 
their wind farms at these sites.  

 

Some people put wind mills on their roofs unaware of the noise factor.  That is 
a problem that is likely to go away because there are now windmills for homes 
that do not make noise.

 

The effort by the right ring smear machine is strong, rich, powerful, and 
effective.  They even have a web site that markets their fear.  

http://www.wind-watch.org/

 

Thanks for asking.J

 

Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer

The Green Economy Post

http://greeneconomypost.com

tra...@greeneconomypost.com

Phone: 425-502-7716

 

 

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:24 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: 

Re: [scifinoir2] Voyagerr's Tome Paris is Executive Producer of Chuck

[Mr. Worf]

It looks like he took a couple of years off. With the article I read
yesterday maybe he got tired of the game.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Tracey de Morsella <
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:

>
>
>  I saw that he was working, but not as much directing as he had being
> doing.  However, it may not be his thing.  I am glad he is working
>
>
>
> *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2010 11:24 PM
>
> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Voyagerr's Tome Paris is Executive Producer of
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
> He seems to be working doing a lot of voice over and host stuff.
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm996/
>
>  On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Tracey de Morsella <
> tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Cool.  Unfortunately, I do not think Levar Burton is doing so well on that
> front
>
>
>
> *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2010 10:27 PM
> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Voyagerr's Tome Paris is Executive Producer of
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
> IMDB said that she produces Cold Case. Before that she produced Crossing
> Jordan. She directed Cold Case, Crossing Jordan and episodes of Heroes etc.
> So she's doing ok.
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Tracey de Morsella <
> tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Got my husband hooked so now we watch Chuck.  I was reading the credits and
> saw that in addition to directing, Robert Duncan Mc Neil (the guy who played
> Tom Paris) is also co-executive producer with “oh so talented McG”
>
>
>
> Anyone know whether the woman who played B’Lanna Torres is doing well with
> her directing career?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
> Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
> Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>



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Re: [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills?

[Mr. Worf]

In the bay area (you probably know about them) there is a large wind farm
with 50 or 100ft tall windmills with huge blades. You can drive up to them
and get close to them. Even when you are near 20 or so of them you barely
hear them. Its just a pleasant woosh / mechanical sound. You hear more noise
from the freeway. A few miles from me is a windmill that is connected to
someone's house with a 6ft blade span. It spins at a higher rate so the
pitch is higher. The higher pitch would make it harder to hear across the
street from it.

If you are out in the middle of nowhere and there is little to no ambient
sound at night then I guess they would be considered loud. But if you are
nearly a mile away from them you probably wouldn't hear them at all.

I like the solar farms that they are doing in Spain. (focused light to a
tower with a steam generator)

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Tracey de Morsella <
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:

>
>
>  Property values is another issue.  My husband reminded me that studies in
> Europe have shown that the presence of a wind farm does not lower property
> values.  I personally would be much more inclined to buy property near a
> wind farm than a power line
>
>
>
> *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:57 PM
> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills?
>
>
>
>
>
> I will check out the articles. One thing that I thought was odd was that
> the owner of the windmill company said that there was a client that was
> having problems from his neighbors although he had 3500 acres of land around
> him. That made me automatically think that the people that were protesting
> were lying. Audible sound waves wouldn't travel that far, and they wouldn't
> be able to hear the low frequency waves.
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Tracey de Morsella <
> tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Worf:
>
>
>
> You know that renewable energy is my business.  So, I could not resist
> responding.  We have a lot of articles on our portal on wind.  You can view
> them here.
> http://greeneconomypost.com/category/green-business/wind-energy-green-business
>
> Unfortunately, we do not have a lot on the opposition to it.
>
>
>
> However most opposition to wind and other forms of renewable energy have
> been artificially created.  The main culprit is the oils companies with
> ExxonMobil leading the charge.  I do not have the most recent numbers but 
> ExxonMobil
> has a history of funding groups that have misrepresented the science of
> climate change by outright denial of the evidence.   According to a study
> conducted by the Union of Concerned Scientists in 2007, ExxonMobil had spent
> over $16 million to fund climate change skeptic groups as part of a
> “tobacco-like disinformation campaign on global warming science.”
> They
> have continued to channel money to these groups.  These climate change
> skeptic groups work to scare people away from believing climate change and
> to make them think that programs that address it will ruin they economy,
> steal jobs, etc.
>
>
>
> I wrote an analysis debunking their latest investment in this cause.
>
> Debunking The Spanish Study on The Dire Result of Green Jobs Creation
>
> http://greeneconomypost.com/debunk-spanish-study-green-jobs-1582.htm
>
>
>
> There are some legitimate concerns that people should have about
> windmills.  The following are the two that I am aware of:
>
>
>
> Killing birds.  If you build a wind farm in the migration path of specific
> bird species, they will die when the fly into them.  Having learned from the
> past.  Most wind energy companies study the bird flight patterns and do not
> build their wind farms at these sites.
>
>
>
> Some people put wind mills on their roofs unaware of the noise factor.
> That is a problem that is likely to go away because there are now windmills
> for homes that do not make noise.
>
>
>
> The effort by the right ring smear machine is strong, rich, powerful, and
> effective.  They even have a web site that markets their fear.
>
> http://www.wind-watch.org/
>
>
>
> Thanks for asking.J
>
>
>
> Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer
>
> The Green Economy Post
>
> http://greeneconomypost.com
>
> tra...@greeneconomypost.com
>
> Phone: 425-502-7716
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:24 PM
> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills?
>
>
>
>
>
> I was watching a show on small business about a company in New Jersey that
> was under attack by a citizens group. One of the claims that is being made
> is that the sound that the windmills make causes damage.
> http://www.waynewindturbines.com/
>
> 

RE: [scifinoir2] Voyagerr's Tome Paris is Executive Producer of Chuck

[Tracey de Morsella]

I saw that he was working, but not as much directing as he had being doing.  
However, it may not be his thing.  I am glad he is working

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 11:24 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Voyagerr's Tome Paris is Executive Producer of Chuck

 



He seems to be working doing a lot of voice over and host stuff. 
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm996/



On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
 wrote:

 

Cool.  Unfortunately, I do not think Levar Burton is doing so well on that front

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 10:27 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Voyagerr's Tome Paris is Executive Producer of Chuck

 



IMDB said that she produces Cold Case. Before that she produced Crossing 
Jordan. She directed Cold Case, Crossing Jordan and episodes of Heroes etc. So 
she's doing ok. 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
 wrote:

 

Got my husband hooked so now we watch Chuck.  I was reading the credits and saw 
that in addition to directing, Robert Duncan Mc Neil (the guy who played Tom 
Paris) is also co-executive producer with “oh so talented McG”

 

Anyone know whether the woman who played B’Lanna Torres is doing well with her 
directing career?

 

 

 






-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/




 




-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/

Re: [scifinoir2] Voyagerr's Tome Paris is Executive Producer of Chuck

[Mr. Worf]

He seems to be working doing a lot of voice over and host stuff.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm996/


On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Tracey de Morsella <
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:

>
>
>  Cool.  Unfortunately, I do not think Levar Burton is doing so well on
> that front
>
>
>
> *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2010 10:27 PM
> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Voyagerr's Tome Paris is Executive Producer of
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
> IMDB said that she produces Cold Case. Before that she produced Crossing
> Jordan. She directed Cold Case, Crossing Jordan and episodes of Heroes etc.
> So she's doing ok.
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Tracey de Morsella <
> tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Got my husband hooked so now we watch Chuck.  I was reading the credits and
> saw that in addition to directing, Robert Duncan Mc Neil (the guy who played
> Tom Paris) is also co-executive producer with “oh so talented McG”
>
>
>
> Anyone know whether the woman who played B’Lanna Torres is doing well with
> her directing career?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
> Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>



-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/

RE: [scifinoir2] Voyagerr's Tome Paris is Executive Producer of Chuck

[Tracey de Morsella]

Cool.  Unfortunately, I do not think Levar Burton is doing so well on that front

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 10:27 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Voyagerr's Tome Paris is Executive Producer of Chuck

 



IMDB said that she produces Cold Case. Before that she produced Crossing 
Jordan. She directed Cold Case, Crossing Jordan and episodes of Heroes etc. So 
she's doing ok. 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
 wrote:

 

Got my husband hooked so now we watch Chuck.  I was reading the credits and saw 
that in addition to directing, Robert Duncan Mc Neil (the guy who played Tom 
Paris) is also co-executive producer with “oh so talented McG”

 

Anyone know whether the woman who played B’Lanna Torres is doing well with her 
directing career?

 

 

 




-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/

RE: [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills?

[Tracey de Morsella]

Property values is another issue.  My husband reminded me that studies in 
Europe have shown that the presence of a wind farm does not lower property 
values.  I personally would be much more inclined to buy property near a wind 
farm than a power line

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:57 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills?

 



I will check out the articles. One thing that I thought was odd was that the 
owner of the windmill company said that there was a client that was having 
problems from his neighbors although he had 3500 acres of land around him. That 
made me automatically think that the people that were protesting were lying. 
Audible sound waves wouldn't travel that far, and they wouldn't be able to hear 
the low frequency waves. 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
 wrote:

 

Worf:

 

You know that renewable energy is my business.  So, I could not resist 
responding.  We have a lot of articles on our portal on wind.  You can view 
them here.  
http://greeneconomypost.com/category/green-business/wind-energy-green-business

Unfortunately, we do not have a lot on the opposition to it. 

 

However most opposition to wind and other forms of renewable energy have been 
artificially created.  The main culprit is the oils companies with ExxonMobil 
leading the charge.  I do not have the most recent numbers but ExxonMobil has a 
history of funding groups that have misrepresented the science of climate 
change by outright denial of the evidence.   According to a study conducted by 
the Union of Concerned 

  Scientists in 2007, ExxonMobil had spent over $16 million to fund climate 
change skeptic groups as part of a “tobacco-like disinformation campaign on 
global warming science.” They have continued to channel money to these groups.  
These climate change skeptic groups work to scare people away from believing 
climate change and to make them think that programs that address it will ruin 
they economy, steal jobs, etc.

 

I wrote an analysis debunking their latest investment in this cause.

Debunking The Spanish Study on The Dire Result of Green Jobs Creation 

http://greeneconomypost.com/debunk-spanish-study-green-jobs-1582.htm

 

There are some legitimate concerns that people should have about windmills.  
The following are the two that I am aware of:

 

Killing birds.  If you build a wind farm in the migration path of specific bird 
species, they will die when the fly into them.  Having learned from the past.  
Most wind energy companies study the bird flight patterns and do not build 
their wind farms at these sites.  

 

Some people put wind mills on their roofs unaware of the noise factor.  That is 
a problem that is likely to go away because there are now windmills for homes 
that do not make noise.

 

The effort by the right ring smear machine is strong, rich, powerful, and 
effective.  They even have a web site that markets their fear.  

http://www.wind-watch.org/

 

Thanks for asking.J

 

Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer

The Green Economy Post

http://greeneconomypost.com

tra...@greeneconomypost.com

Phone: 425-502-7716

 

 

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:24 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills?

 



I was watching a show on small business about a company in New Jersey that was 
under attack by a citizens group. One of the claims that is being made is that 
the sound that the windmills make causes damage. 
http://www.waynewindturbines.com/

With different sizes, makes, and manufacturers that cannot be what is going on. 
Funny that no one talks about the high tension electrical lines in the photo. 

What is your first thought on this?





 




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Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/

RE: [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills?

[Tracey de Morsella]

Those people are worked up by the same forces that say Obama is a communities, 
that minorities are at the route of the financial crisis, that Saddam was buds 
with Osama.  You get the picture.  Almost every form of alternative energy 
probably has issues with them, but not the talking points that are being pushed 
to the public.

 

Regarding the noise, from a personal perspective, I do not believe it.  When we 
returned from living in Mexico to Washington State, we drove by scores of Wind 
Farms (very close),  I did not get a sense of any noise issues.  

 

The bird issue is what I have heard is the major issue and they seem to be 
addressing it head on.  A few weeks ago, I heard that they decided to hold up 
the set up of a wind farm in Texas because  the birds flight patterns are all 
along the same path as the best wind.I’ve heard less issues with wind than 
any other viable form of renewable energy.

 

I live, eat and breath stuff and as far as I can tell, it is all smoke and 
mirrors trumped up by the right wing and their friends at Exxon Mobil

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:57 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills?

 



I will check out the articles. One thing that I thought was odd was that the 
owner of the windmill company said that there was a client that was having 
problems from his neighbors although he had 3500 acres of land around him. That 
made me automatically think that the people that were protesting were lying. 
Audible sound waves wouldn't travel that far, and they wouldn't be able to hear 
the low frequency waves. 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
 wrote:

 

Worf:

 

You know that renewable energy is my business.  So, I could not resist 
responding.  We have a lot of articles on our portal on wind.  You can view 
them here.  
http://greeneconomypost.com/category/green-business/wind-energy-green-business

Unfortunately, we do not have a lot on the opposition to it. 

 

However most opposition to wind and other forms of renewable energy have been 
artificially created.  The main culprit is the oils companies with ExxonMobil 
leading the charge.  I do not have the most recent numbers but ExxonMobil has a 
history of funding groups that have misrepresented the science of climate 
change by outright denial of the evidence.   According to a study conducted by 
the Union of Concerned 

  Scientists in 2007, ExxonMobil had spent over $16 million to fund climate 
change skeptic groups as part of a “tobacco-like disinformation campaign on 
global warming science.” They have continued to channel money to these groups.  
These climate change skeptic groups work to scare people away from believing 
climate change and to make them think that programs that address it will ruin 
they economy, steal jobs, etc.

 

I wrote an analysis debunking their latest investment in this cause.

Debunking The Spanish Study on The Dire Result of Green Jobs Creation 

http://greeneconomypost.com/debunk-spanish-study-green-jobs-1582.htm

 

There are some legitimate concerns that people should have about windmills.  
The following are the two that I am aware of:

 

Killing birds.  If you build a wind farm in the migration path of specific bird 
species, they will die when the fly into them.  Having learned from the past.  
Most wind energy companies study the bird flight patterns and do not build 
their wind farms at these sites.  

 

Some people put wind mills on their roofs unaware of the noise factor.  That is 
a problem that is likely to go away because there are now windmills for homes 
that do not make noise.

 

The effort by the right ring smear machine is strong, rich, powerful, and 
effective.  They even have a web site that markets their fear.  

http://www.wind-watch.org/

 

Thanks for asking.J

 

Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer

The Green Economy Post

http://greeneconomypost.com

tra...@greeneconomypost.com

Phone: 425-502-7716

 

 

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:24 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills?

 



I was watching a show on small business about a company in New Jersey that was 
under attack by a citizens group. One of the claims that is being made is that 
the sound that the windmills make causes damage. 
http://www.waynewindturbines.com/

With different sizes, makes, and manufacturers that cannot be what is going on. 
Funny that no one talks about the high tension electrical lines in the photo. 

What is your first thought on this?





 




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Re: [scifinoir2] Voyagerr's Tome Paris is Executive Producer of Chuck

[Mr. Worf]

IMDB said that she produces Cold Case. Before that she produced Crossing
Jordan. She directed Cold Case, Crossing Jordan and episodes of Heroes etc.
So she's doing ok.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Tracey de Morsella <
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:

>
>
>  Got my husband hooked so now we watch Chuck.  I was reading the credits
> and saw that in addition to directing, Robert Duncan Mc Neil (the guy who
> played Tom Paris) is also co-executive producer with “oh so talented McG”
>
>
>
> Anyone know whether the woman who played B’Lanna Torres is doing well with
> her directing career?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 




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[scifinoir2] Voyagerr's Tome Paris is Executive Producer of Chuck

[Tracey de Morsella]

Got my husband hooked so now we watch Chuck.  I was reading the credits and
saw that in addition to directing, Robert Duncan Mc Neil (the guy who played
Tom Paris) is also co-executive producer with "oh so talented McG"

 

Anyone know whether the woman who played B'Lanna Torres is doing well with
her directing career?

 

 

Re: [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills?

[Mr. Worf]

I will check out the articles. One thing that I thought was odd was that the
owner of the windmill company said that there was a client that was having
problems from his neighbors although he had 3500 acres of land around him.
That made me automatically think that the people that were protesting were
lying. Audible sound waves wouldn't travel that far, and they wouldn't be
able to hear the low frequency waves.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Tracey de Morsella <
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:

>
>
>  Worf:
>
>
>
> You know that renewable energy is my business.  So, I could not resist
> responding.  We have a lot of articles on our portal on wind.  You can view
> them here.
> http://greeneconomypost.com/category/green-business/wind-energy-green-business
>
> Unfortunately, we do not have a lot on the opposition to it.
>
>
>
> However most opposition to wind and other forms of renewable energy have
> been artificially created.  The main culprit is the oils companies with
> ExxonMobil leading the charge.  I do not have the most recent numbers but 
> ExxonMobil
> has a history of funding groups that have misrepresented the science of
> climate change by outright denial of the evidence.   According to a study
> conducted by the Union of Concerned Scientists in 2007, ExxonMobil had spent
> over $16 million to fund climate change skeptic groups as part of a
> “tobacco-like disinformation campaign on global warming science.”
> They
> have continued to channel money to these groups.  These climate change
> skeptic groups work to scare people away from believing climate change and
> to make them think that programs that address it will ruin they economy,
> steal jobs, etc.
>
>
>
> I wrote an analysis debunking their latest investment in this cause.
>
> Debunking The Spanish Study on The Dire Result of Green Jobs Creation
>
> http://greeneconomypost.com/debunk-spanish-study-green-jobs-1582.htm
>
>
>
> There are some legitimate concerns that people should have about
> windmills.  The following are the two that I am aware of:
>
>
>
> Killing birds.  If you build a wind farm in the migration path of specific
> bird species, they will die when the fly into them.  Having learned from the
> past.  Most wind energy companies study the bird flight patterns and do not
> build their wind farms at these sites.
>
>
>
> Some people put wind mills on their roofs unaware of the noise factor.
> That is a problem that is likely to go away because there are now windmills
> for homes that do not make noise.
>
>
>
> The effort by the right ring smear machine is strong, rich, powerful, and
> effective.  They even have a web site that markets their fear.
>
> http://www.wind-watch.org/
>
>
>
> Thanks for asking.J
>
>
>
> Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer
>
> The Green Economy Post
>
> http://greeneconomypost.com
>
> tra...@greeneconomypost.com
>
> Phone: 425-502-7716
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:24 PM
> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills?
>
>
>
>
>
> I was watching a show on small business about a company in New Jersey that
> was under attack by a citizens group. One of the claims that is being made
> is that the sound that the windmills make causes damage.
> http://www.waynewindturbines.com/
>
> With different sizes, makes, and manufacturers that cannot be what is going
> on. Funny that no one talks about the high tension electrical lines in the
> photo.
>
> What is your first thought on this?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>



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Re: [scifinoir2] not safe for work - Roxxxy the robot goes on sale

[Mr. Worf]

I wrote about this a couple of months ago. This is only the first "robot" to
be sold. There have been "love dolls" that have been around for many years.
Some are extremely lifelike. I think that this guy would probably do better
if they had someone else selling it, and if they closed the doll's mouth. :)


Check out the demo for Roxxxy. It was engineered by a former engineer from
Bell Labs. http://www.69adget.com/true-companion-sex-robot-roxxxy/?pid=83


On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> Okay... one *more* way for the 'bots to kill us off,
> while they're getting busy with us.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: mahogany_pleasures_of_darkn...@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 18:59:45 -0800
> Subject: [scifinoir2] not safe for work - Roxxxy the robot goes on sale
>
>
>  NOT SAFE FOR WORK
>
>
>
>
>
> AEE 2010: True Companion Debuts Sex Robot Roxxxy
>
> [image: vegas 
> 105]Men
> have often dreamed it, but it hasn’t become a reality until today: the sex
> robot. Developed by Douglas Hines of True 
> Companion,
> an electrical engineer and computer scientist who formerly worked in the
> artificial intelligence lab at AT&T Bell Laboratories. Roxxxy, the sexy bot,
> is a completely anatomically correct and customizable companion (from
> features to hair color) that exhibits different personalities and responds
> to touch.
> Depending on your mood, you can assign the robot different personalities
> such as Frigid Farrah or Mature Martha, who will respond differently based
> on the personality you choose. For example, if you hold Mature Martha’s
> hand, she may say “I love holding hands,” whereas if you touch Frigid Farrah
> she may say “What are you going to do with that hand?”
> The coolest part about the robot is that you can build your own custom
> personality based on your preference or tweak an existing personality. Once
> members of the site develop a personality that they really like, they can
> share it with your friends on True Companion’s website. The website sync
> also makes the robot compatible for updates and new features or sexy quirks
> such as a robot that responds to a S&M safety word. More like a social
> networking site, the site will have a monthly fee.
> The 2 1/2 year project was estimated to cost around 1 million dollars and
> the robot itself will cost from $7,000 to $9,000 depending on the level of
> customization you choose. New robots are in the works that will build upon
> this internal computing model and incorporate more movement. The male
> version, Rocky, available as a gay robot or a heterosexual robot is
> currently being developed.
> True Companion claims that the robot isn’t solely used for sex but is
> rather a life partner or mate for those who can’t find or don’t want the
> real thing. According to True Companion’s Web site, she “can carry on a
> discussion and expresses her love to you and be your loving friend. She can
> talk to you, listen to you and feel your touch.” Well, Roxxxy certainly
> won’t make you put the seat down.
> *
> *
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>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [scifinoir2] not safe for work - Roxxxy the robot goes on sale

[Martin Baxter]

Okay... one *more* way for the 'bots to kill us off, while 
they're getting busy with us.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: mahogany_pleasures_of_darkn...@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 18:59:45 -0800
Subject: [scifinoir2] not safe for work - Roxxxy the robot goes on sale


















 



  



  
  
  NOT SAFE FOR WORK




























AEE 2010: True Companion Debuts Sex Robot Roxxxy
 
Men have often dreamed it, but it hasn’t become a reality until today: the sex 
robot. Developed by Douglas Hines of True Companion, an electrical engineer and 
computer scientist who formerly worked in the artificial intelligence lab at 
AT&T Bell Laboratories. Roxxxy, the sexy bot, is a completely anatomically 
correct and customizable companion (from features to hair color) that exhibits 
different personalities and responds to touch.



Depending on your mood, you can assign the robot different personalities such 
as Frigid Farrah or Mature Martha, who will respond differently based on the 
personality you choose. For example, if you hold Mature Martha’s hand, she may 
say “I love holding hands,” whereas if you touch Frigid Farrah she may say 
“What are you going to do with that hand?”



The coolest part about the robot is that you can build your own custom 
personality based on your preference or tweak an existing personality. Once 
members of the site develop a personality that they really like, they can share 
it with your friends on True Companion’s website. The website sync also makes 
the robot compatible for updates and new features or sexy quirks such as a 
robot that responds to a S&M safety word. More like a social networking site, 
the site will have a monthly fee.



The 2 1/2 year project was estimated to cost around 1 million dollars and the 
robot itself will cost from $7,000 to $9,000 depending on the level of 
customization you choose. New robots are in the works that will build upon this 
internal computing model and incorporate more movement. The male version, 
Rocky, available as a gay robot or a heterosexual robot is currently being 
developed.



True Companion claims that the robot isn’t solely used for sex but is rather a 
life partner or mate for those who can’t find or don’t want the real thing. 
According to True Companion’s Web site, she “can carry on a discussion and 
expresses her love to you and be your loving friend. She can talk to you, 
listen to you and feel your touch.” Well, Roxxxy certainly won’t make you put 
the seat down.








 



 



 



 



 



 


 


















 
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[scifinoir2] not safe for work - Roxxxy the robot goes on sale

[Mr. Worf]

NOT SAFE FOR WORK




AEE 2010: True Companion Debuts Sex Robot Roxxxy


[image: vegas 
105]Men
have often dreamed it, but it hasn’t become a reality until today: the sex
robot. Developed by Douglas Hines of True Companion,
an electrical engineer and computer scientist who formerly worked in the
artificial intelligence lab at AT&T Bell Laboratories. Roxxxy, the sexy bot,
is a completely anatomically correct and customizable companion (from
features to hair color) that exhibits different personalities and responds
to touch.

Depending on your mood, you can assign the robot different personalities
such as Frigid Farrah or Mature Martha, who will respond differently based
on the personality you choose. For example, if you hold Mature Martha’s
hand, she may say “I love holding hands,” whereas if you touch Frigid Farrah
she may say “What are you going to do with that hand?”

The coolest part about the robot is that you can build your own custom
personality based on your preference or tweak an existing personality. Once
members of the site develop a personality that they really like, they can
share it with your friends on True Companion’s website. The website sync
also makes the robot compatible for updates and new features or sexy quirks
such as a robot that responds to a S&M safety word. More like a social
networking site, the site will have a monthly fee.

The 2 1/2 year project was estimated to cost around 1 million dollars and
the robot itself will cost from $7,000 to $9,000 depending on the level of
customization you choose. New robots are in the works that will build upon
this internal computing model and incorporate more movement. The male
version, Rocky, available as a gay robot or a heterosexual robot is
currently being developed.

True Companion claims that the robot isn’t solely used for sex but is rather
a life partner or mate for those who can’t find or don’t want the real
thing. According to True Companion’s Web site, she “can carry on a
discussion and expresses her love to you and be your loving friend. She can
talk to you, listen to you and feel your touch.” Well, Roxxxy certainly
won’t make you put the seat down.

*
*
  
  
  
  
  
  









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RE: [scifinoir2] Battle Angel Alita

[Martin Baxter]

I wonder if the double entendres will remain intact, such as the "Rhythms 
Insertion" battle technique? I had to rent a carpet cleaner after hearing that 
one.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:34:27 -0800
Subject: [scifinoir2] Battle Angel Alita


















 



  



  
  
  Jon Landu leaked that he is working on a new film based on the anime 
Battle Angel Alita. Battle Angel is about a cyborg that has lost her memory. 
The one thing that she remembers is being an assassin. It is possible that this 
movie will be done in the same technology that was used for Avatar. Cool huh? 


Here's more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_angel_alita


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Re: [scifinoir2] WTF?

[George Arterberry]

I spent some time in Oz a few years ago. This doesn't surprise me at all.




From: Martin Baxter 
To: SciFiNoir2 
Sent: Sun, January 10, 2010 4:16:13 PM
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] WTF?

  
>From dealing with that ex-friend, I think that their idea of challenging those 
>lines of thought is BY being un-PC. Some of them speak the phrase as though 
>it's the vilest obscenity.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
From: HelloMahogany@ gmail.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:13:34 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF?

  
They have had the opportunity to really challenge that line of thinking. For a 
while there they seemed very permissive, but in the last few years they have 
gotten off on the wrong track. Censorship, racism, homophobia etc. Sort of like 
they were influenced by Rush Limbaugh or something. 



On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>
>
>
>
>>
>
>
>
>
>Oddly enough, I had a friend from down there, up until a year and change ago. 
>During the span of our friendship, I was getting all sorts of derogatory 
>comments about Aussies from all quarters, and vehemently defending the 
>country, in his name. Since he proved himself to be an a$$hole of the first 
>order and I put him down, I've begun to see the other side of the card. 
>They're not a PC nation, and they just don't get it, which is strange as hell, 
>considering how they treated the First People for almost three centuries.
>
>"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
>hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
>http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
>
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
>From: HelloMahogany@ gmail.com
>Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:08:37 -0800
>>Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF?
>
>  >
>
>>
> 
>>  
>  
>  I see both sides on this one. Cricket and soccer both have rabid fans. 
> It would be the same if he were at a football game and sitting on the wrong 
> side of the stadium. An example is a Dodger fan at a Giants game during 
> playoffs. 
>
>However the racist part comes in because it was only people of color that was 
>enjoying the music and no other people enjoying the music. Even his date was 
>enjoying the music. She had on a white shirt but was dancing. (and she was of 
>color)
>
>They seem to be a lot less sensitive in countries where there are less black 
>folks. 
>
>
>
>On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
>
>http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=FftZt-Dw_ hQ
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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[scifinoir2] Battle Angel Alita

[Mr. Worf]

Jon Landu leaked that he is working on a new film based on the anime Battle
Angel Alita. Battle Angel is about a cyborg that has lost her memory. The
one thing that she remembers is being an assassin. It is possible that this
movie will be done in the same technology that was used for Avatar. Cool
huh?

Here's more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_angel_alita



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RE: [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills?

[Tracey de Morsella]

Worf:

 

You know that renewable energy is my business.  So, I could not resist 
responding.  We have a lot of articles on our portal on wind.  You can view 
them here.  
http://greeneconomypost.com/category/green-business/wind-energy-green-business

Unfortunately, we do not have a lot on the opposition to it. 

 

However most opposition to wind and other forms of renewable energy have been 
artificially created.  The main culprit is the oils companies with ExxonMobil 
leading the charge.  I do not have the most recent numbers but ExxonMobil has a 
history of funding groups that have misrepresented the science of climate 
change by outright denial of the evidence.   According to a study conducted by 
the Union of Concerned 

  Scientists in 2007, ExxonMobil had spent over $16 million to fund climate 
change skeptic groups as part of a “tobacco-like disinformation campaign on 
global warming science.” They have continued to channel money to these groups.  
These climate change skeptic groups work to scare people away from believing 
climate change and to make them think that programs that address it will ruin 
they economy, steal jobs, etc.

 

I wrote an analysis debunking their latest investment in this cause.

Debunking The Spanish Study on The Dire Result of Green Jobs Creation 

http://greeneconomypost.com/debunk-spanish-study-green-jobs-1582.htm

 

There are some legitimate concerns that people should have about windmills.  
The following are the two that I am aware of:

 

Killing birds.  If you build a wind farm in the migration path of specific bird 
species, they will die when the fly into them.  Having learned from the past.  
Most wind energy companies study the bird flight patterns and do not build 
their wind farms at these sites.  

 

Some people put wind mills on their roofs unaware of the noise factor.  That is 
a problem that is likely to go away because there are now windmills for homes 
that do not make noise.

 

The effort by the right ring smear machine is strong, rich, powerful, and 
effective.  They even have a web site that markets their fear.  

http://www.wind-watch.org/

 

Thanks for asking.J

 

Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer

The Green Economy Post

http://greeneconomypost.com

tra...@greeneconomypost.com

Phone: 425-502-7716

 

 

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:24 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills?

 



I was watching a show on small business about a company in New Jersey that was 
under attack by a citizens group. One of the claims that is being made is that 
the sound that the windmills make causes damage. 
http://www.waynewindturbines.com/

With different sizes, makes, and manufacturers that cannot be what is going on. 
Funny that no one talks about the high tension electrical lines in the photo. 

What is your first thought on this?

RE: [scifinoir2] Golden Age Comics - 12/25/09

[Martin Baxter]

More thanks, Mr Worf!

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:02:18 -0800
Subject: [scifinoir2] Golden Age Comics - 12/25/09


















 



  



  
  
  


























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[scifinoir2] ZetaTalk: GLP Live [1-9-10]

[nathaniel x vance]

ZetaTalk: GLP Live [1-9-10]  
Resigning chiefs, Distilling water, Retiring Congressmen, Armageddon week, STS 
engineering, Weather predictions, Global economy, Mind control, European 
safety, 7 on 1-10 scale, Contactee dreams, Distress Calls, Cursed objects, Dark 
Twin, Ahmadinejad, Bush clones, Puppet Master, World War III, Clintons, 
Magnetic weather, Gossip, STO cowardice, The Road, Giuliani, Netherlands 
outage, Engagement rules, Soul shapes, Z Pinch theory, Unsold clothing, Food 
industry, STS-126 patch, Contact methods, Replacement chiefs, Apollo flights, 
NWO agenda
*
Excerpts:
[Questioner]  Armageddon week on the history channel is pretty edgy in terms of 
its message and content re a "pole shift magnitude disaster". Obviously the 
pole shift was not called out but fairly dramatic content was presented. 1) is 
this type of show effective in making people aware? And 2) how do those that 
put these shows on avoid the wrath of TPTB that still want all possibility of a 
shift like disaster hidden from the common man?
-
[Zeta Response]   History Channel need not fear reprisals from the Obama 
administration, which is encouraging more open discussion on these types of 
possibilities. Under Bush, there was a lot of repression and pointed national 
security directives, which were withdrawn when Obama took office. There is a 
type of test being done, wherein public reaction is gauged, and then the 
program is reset to be more pointed or less, depending upon reaction. There are 
people who listen in during café and bar conversations, and others who monitor 
email for key words to find those email discussing the show. They are learning 
what we have stated, that the common man is not the element that will panic. It 
is those in control, the establishment, who panic because they fear being 
called to account on their lies, and fear the common man making demands upon 
them.
*
[Questioner]  Here in Europe we experienced severe weather conditions during 
past weeks: at first a warm October/November, then suddenly a cold and snowy 
December (it snowed and was very cold in areas that weren't used to that and 
even where I live, which is a flat land), then at the beginning of January we 
experienced heavy rain and lots of areas flooded. Still the situation is 
difficult for some regions and now metereologists expect the weather to become 
cold and snowy again. Do you expect this winter to slowly get better before 
spring arrives?
-
[Zeta Response]   We are periodically asked about the weather, though we have 
repeatedly stated that our predictions in 1995, when ZetaTalk first began, will 
hold. We predicted increasing drought and deluge, switching about, becoming 
more intractable and this occurred. We predicted temperature swings, and this 
occurred. We predicted that the seasons would begin to blend into each other, 
though this has not yet occurred to meet our prediction, though it will. We 
predicted snow in summer and this has occurred. We predicted crop shortages 
caused by all these weather extremes and this is no longer denied by the 
authorities. We predicted in January of 2009 that the northern hemisphere would 
have colder then normal weather because of the push away the N Pole experiences 
during the Earth wobble, and this has occurred. We also recently stated that a 
prediction for colder then normal weather did not mean a steady state, as 
swings are to be expected, in line
 with our earlier prediction that the seasons would blend. Thus, you should 
expect more cold and storms, but also unexpectedly warm weather!
*
[Questioner]  If Ahmadinejad is so STO, why is Iran in the throes of such 
massive civil unrest, with the rallying cry on the streets "death to the 
dictator"? If he won the election fair and square, why did the clerics see fit 
to commit voter fraud, unless they were simply fearful STS hiding behind this 
puppet of theirs?
_
[Zeta Response]   As with the case of Obama, who is supposed to accomplish 
miracles, pass laws bypassing Congress, and dictating to the Judicial system 
what judgements they make in the process if necessary, this is narrow and 
childish thinking. Obama can only execute what laws the congress enacts, and 
cannot dictate. Iran's president Ahmadinejad likewise is limited in what he can 
do. Both leaders attempt to work within the restrictions, to accomplish as much 
good as is possible, given the situation. 
*
[Questioner]  Is it possible to be STO and still scorn any warning about the 
poleshift? Even if disbelieving, wouldn't an STO person at least consider it or 
avoid getting angry at the messenger?
-
[Zeta Response]   There is no incompatibility, as to acknowledge the coming 
changes requires courage as well as caring, and simply being Service-to-Other, 
caring about others as often as the self, does not mean the entity has courage. 
Courage is required not only on the soul level, but on the human level, so 
there may be discordance there. The soul is likely to be fu

[scifinoir2] Why are people afraid of windmills?

[Mr. Worf]

I was watching a show on small business about a company in New Jersey that
was under attack by a citizens group. One of the claims that is being made
is that the sound that the windmills make causes damage.
http://www.waynewindturbines.com/

With different sizes, makes, and manufacturers that cannot be what is going
on. Funny that no one talks about the high tension electrical lines in the
photo.

What is your first thought on this?

[scifinoir2] Golden Age Comics - 12/26/09

[Mr. Worf]

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Blaze| Davy
Crockett  | Don Winslow of
the Navy  |
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Army| Fightin'
Marines  | Fightin'
Navy| First
Kiss  | Foreign
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Scout: Dan'l Boone  | Funny
Animals  | Gabby
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Comics  | Hot Rods and
Racing Cars  | I Love
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Comics  | Johnny
Dynamite| Just
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Montana| Lash
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Suspense Stories  | Li'l
Genius  | Li'l Rascal
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Tomboy  | Long John Silver
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Little Margie  | My Little
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Girl  | Outer
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Stories 

[scifinoir2] Golden Age Comics - 12/25/09

[Mr. Worf]

Centaur Publishing 
 [image: Centaur Publishing] 
 Centaur Publications (1938–1942) was one of the earliest American comic
book publishers.

The company's flagship title, the eponymous Comics Magazine, premiered with
a May 1936 cover date. That comic-book series featured the first masked hero
in American comics, writer-artist George Brenner's the Clock, in the
November 1936 issue.

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[scifinoir2] Golden Age Comics - 12/24/09

[Mr. Worf]

Better/Nedor/Standard/Pines
Publications
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Publications]
 Better/Nedor/Standard/Pines Publications 1939-1959

Produced three long running Golden Age anthology titles, Thrilling Comics,
Exciting Comics and Startling Comics all anchored by super heroes, for a
decade these were among the top comics in their field. Other titles
published include Black Terror , Fighting Yank, and the much lesser-known
anthologies Wonder Comics, Mystery Comics and the largely super hero
anthology America's Best Comics, as well as many other titles. Ned Pines and
Pines Publication was the Master Publisher taking the name of Pines Comics
in 1956 until ceasing comics in 1959.

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RE: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox

[Martin Baxter]

Those were a couple of choice psych scars...

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:15:36 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox


















 



  



  
  
  Better yet, Superbus / Super train or some of the other junk from that 
time frame. 


On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:


























That's never stopped a network exec. Ask whoever greenlit "Alf". Or the guy who 
canceled "The Dresden Files".

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:06:25 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox



















 



  



  
  
  They are foolish if they let Conan go. 


On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:



























Well, this may all be a collection of moot points...

NBC sets Jay Leno's prime-time exit and return to late night: still no deal for 
Conan

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/01/nbcs-jeff-gaspin-sets-exit-date-for-leno-from-prime-time-still-no-deal-with-conan-obrien.html



"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 16:36:11 -0800


Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox


















 



  



  
  
  Arsenio was at UPN then Fox. Or something like that. Fox just doesn't 
know how to run a show like the Tonight show. They should put Obrien back in 
his old spot and can Jimmy Fallon for being lame.





On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
 wrote:



































Wasn’t Arsenio at Fox?


 






From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:43 PM

To: SciFiNoir2

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox






 






Conan may want to talk to Joss Whedon before making that move...



"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
















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Re: [scifinoir2] WTF?

[Mr. Worf]

Hmm that is a possibility.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> From dealing with that ex-friend, I think that their idea of challenging
> those lines of thought is BY being un-PC. Some of them speak the phrase as
> though it's the vilest obscenity.
>
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:13:34 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF?
>
>
>  They have had the opportunity to really challenge that line of thinking.
> For a while there they seemed very permissive, but in the last few years
> they have gotten off on the wrong track. Censorship, racism, homophobia etc.
> Sort of like they were influenced by Rush Limbaugh or something.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Martin Baxter <
> truthseeker...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Oddly enough, I had a friend from down there, up until a year and change
> ago. During the span of our friendship, I was getting all sorts of
> derogatory comments about Aussies from all quarters, and vehemently
> defending the country, in his name. Since he proved himself to be an a$$hole
> of the first order and I put him down, I've begun to see the other side of
> the card. They're not a PC nation, and they just don't get it, which is
> strange as hell, considering how they treated the First People for almost
> three centuries.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:08:37 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF?
>
>
>  I see both sides on this one. Cricket and soccer both have rabid fans. It
> would be the same if he were at a football game and sitting on the wrong
> side of the stadium. An example is a Dodger fan at a Giants game during
> playoffs.
>
> However the racist part comes in because it was only people of color that
> was enjoying the music and no other people enjoying the music. Even his date
> was enjoying the music. She had on a white shirt but was dancing. (and she
> was of color)
>
> They seem to be a lot less sensitive in countries where there are less
> black folks.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FftZt-Dw_hQ
>
>
>
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RE: [scifinoir2] WTF?

[Martin Baxter]

>From dealing with that ex-friend, I think that their idea of challenging those 
>lines of thought is BY being un-PC. Some of them speak the phrase as though 
>it's the vilest obscenity.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:13:34 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF?


















 



  



  
  
  They have had the opportunity to really challenge that line of thinking. 
For a while there they seemed very permissive, but in the last few years they 
have gotten off on the wrong track. Censorship, racism, homophobia etc. Sort of 
like they were influenced by Rush Limbaugh or something. 



On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:


























Oddly enough, I had a friend from down there, up until a year and change ago. 
During the span of our friendship, I was getting all sorts of derogatory 
comments about Aussies from all quarters, and vehemently defending the country, 
in his name. Since he proved himself to be an a$$hole of the first order and I 
put him down, I've begun to see the other side of the card. They're not a PC 
nation, and they just don't get it, which is strange as hell, considering how 
they treated the First People for almost three centuries.


"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:08:37 -0800

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF?


















 



  



  
  
  I see both sides on this one. Cricket and soccer both have rabid fans. It 
would be the same if he were at a football game and sitting on the wrong side 
of the stadium. An example is a Dodger fan at a Giants game during playoffs. 



However the racist part comes in because it was only people of color that was 
enjoying the music and no other people enjoying the music. Even his date was 
enjoying the music. She had on a white shirt but was dancing. (and she was of 
color)



They seem to be a lot less sensitive in countries where there are less black 
folks. 


On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:


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Re: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox

[Mr. Worf]

Better yet, Superbus / Super train or some of the other junk from that time
frame.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> That's never stopped a network exec. Ask whoever greenlit "Alf". Or the guy
> who canceled "The Dresden Files".
>
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:06:25 -0800
>
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox
>
>
>  They are foolish if they let Conan go.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Martin Baxter  > wrote:
>
>
>
> Well, this may all be a collection of moot points...
>
> NBC sets Jay Leno's prime-time exit and return to late night: still no deal
> for Conan
>
>
> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/01/nbcs-jeff-gaspin-sets-exit-date-for-leno-from-prime-time-still-no-deal-with-conan-obrien.html
>
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 16:36:11 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox
>
>
>  Arsenio was at UPN then Fox. Or something like that. Fox just doesn't
> know how to run a show like the Tonight show. They should put Obrien back in
> his old spot and can Jimmy Fallon for being lame.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Tracey de Morsella <
> tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>  Wasn’t Arsenio at Fox?
>
>  *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Martin Baxter
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:43 PM
> *To:* SciFiNoir2
> *Subject:* RE: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox
>
>
>
> Conan may want to talk to Joss Whedon before making that move...
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
>  --
>  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 14:17:41 -0800
> Subject: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox
>
>
>   http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100109/ap_en_tv/us_tv_jay_leno
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Re: [scifinoir2] Astronomers on Verge of Finding Habitable Worlds

[Mr. Worf]

How do you think we got to this point?

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> But do we have the right to inflict that on the rest of the Multicosm?
>
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:02:29 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Astronomers on Verge of Finding Habitable Worlds
>
>
>  If we are to survive as a species we must venture out into the stars
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Martin Baxter  > wrote:
>
>
>
> More for corporations to ravage... I'm kinda hoping that they come up dry
> in the Earth-like category.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 17:17:30 -0800
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Astronomers on Verge of Finding Habitable Worlds
>
>
>
> Astronomers on Verge of Finding Habitable WorldsThe discovery of an
> Earth-like, extrasolar planet could happen sooner than you think.
> 
>  Fri Jan 8, 2010 12:01 PM ET | content provided by Seth Borenstein,
> Associated Press
>  [image: A Habitable, Earth-Like Exoplanet?] If there were an Earth-like
> body in the area Kepler is searching, the telescope would find it.
> *AP Photo/NASA*
>
>  Astronomers say they are on the verge of finding planets like Earth
> orbiting other stars, a key step in determining if we are alone in the
> universe.
> A top NASA official and other leading scientists say that within four or
> five years they should discover the first Earth-like 
> planetwhere 
> life could develop, or may have already. A planet close to the size of
> Earth could even be found sometime this year if preliminary hints from a new
> space telescope pan out.
> At the annual American Astronomical Society conference this week, each
> discovery involving so-called "exoplanets" -- those outside our solar system
> -- pointed to the same conclusion: Quiet planets like Earth where life
> could 
> developprobably
>  are plentiful, despite a violent universe of exploding stars,
> crushing black holes and colliding galaxies.
> NASA's new Kepler telescope and a wealth of new research from the suddenly
> hot and competitive exoplanet field generated noticeable buzz at the
> convention. Scientists are talking about being at "an incredible special
> place in history" and closer to answering a question that has dogged
> humanity since the beginning of civilization.
> "The fundamental question is: Are we alone? For the first time, there's an
> optimism that sometime in our lifetimes we're going to get to the bottom of
> that," said Simon "Pete" Worden, an astronomer who heads NASA's Ames
> Research Center. "If I were a betting man, which I am, I would bet we're not
> alone."
> Even the Roman Catholic Church has held scientific conferences about the
> prospect of extraterrestrial 
> life,
> including a meeting last November.
> "These are big questions that reflect upon the meaning of the human race in
> the universe," the director of the Vatican Observatory, the Rev. Jose Funes,
> said Wednesday in an interview at this week's conference.
> Worden told The Associated Press: "I would certainly expect in the next
> four or five years we'd have an Earth-sized planet in the habitable zone."
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] WTF?

[Mr. Worf]

They have had the opportunity to really challenge that line of thinking. For
a while there they seemed very permissive, but in the last few years they
have gotten off on the wrong track. Censorship, racism, homophobia etc. Sort
of like they were influenced by Rush Limbaugh or something.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> Oddly enough, I had a friend from down there, up until a year and change
> ago. During the span of our friendship, I was getting all sorts of
> derogatory comments about Aussies from all quarters, and vehemently
> defending the country, in his name. Since he proved himself to be an a$$hole
> of the first order and I put him down, I've begun to see the other side of
> the card. They're not a PC nation, and they just don't get it, which is
> strange as hell, considering how they treated the First People for almost
> three centuries.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
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> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:08:37 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF?
>
>
>  I see both sides on this one. Cricket and soccer both have rabid fans. It
> would be the same if he were at a football game and sitting on the wrong
> side of the stadium. An example is a Dodger fan at a Giants game during
> playoffs.
>
> However the racist part comes in because it was only people of color that
> was enjoying the music and no other people enjoying the music. Even his date
> was enjoying the music. She had on a white shirt but was dancing. (and she
> was of color)
>
> They seem to be a lot less sensitive in countries where there are less
> black folks.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FftZt-Dw_hQ
>
>
>
> 
>
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RE: [scifinoir2] Astronomers on Verge of Finding Habitable Worlds

[Martin Baxter]

But do we have the right to inflict that on the rest of the Multicosm?

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:02:29 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Astronomers on Verge of Finding Habitable Worlds


















 



  



  
  
  If we are to survive as a species we must venture out into the stars


On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:


























More for corporations to ravage... I'm kinda hoping that they come up dry in 
the Earth-like category.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 17:17:30 -0800
Subject: [scifinoir2] Astronomers on Verge of Finding Habitable Worlds


















 



  



  
  
  
Astronomers on Verge of Finding Habitable WorldsThe discovery of an Earth-like, 
extrasolar planet could happen sooner than you think.







Fri Jan 8, 2010 12:01 PM ET
| content provided by Seth Borenstein, Associated Press 












If there were an Earth-like body in the area Kepler is 
searching, the telescope would find it.

AP Photo/NASA






Astronomers
say they are on the verge of finding planets like Earth orbiting other
stars, a key step in determining if we are alone in the universe.


A top NASA official and other leading scientists say that within four or five 
years they should discover the first Earth-like planet
where life could develop, or may have already. A planet close to the
size of Earth could even be found sometime this year if preliminary
hints from a new space telescope pan out.


At the annual American Astronomical Society conference this week,
each discovery involving so-called "exoplanets" -- those outside our
solar system -- pointed to the same conclusion: Quiet planets like Earth where 
life could develop probably are plentiful, despite a violent universe of 
exploding stars, crushing black holes and colliding galaxies.




NASA's new Kepler telescope and a wealth of new research from the
suddenly hot and competitive exoplanet field generated noticeable buzz
at the convention. Scientists are talking about being at "an incredible
special place in history" and closer to answering a question that has
dogged humanity since the beginning of civilization.


"The fundamental question is: Are we alone? For the first time,
there's an optimism that sometime in our lifetimes we're going to get
to the bottom of that," said Simon "Pete" Worden, an astronomer who
heads NASA's Ames Research Center. "If I were a betting man, which I
am, I would bet we're not alone."


Even the Roman Catholic Church has held scientific conferences about the 
prospect of extraterrestrial life, including a meeting last November.




"These are big questions that reflect upon the meaning of the human
race in the universe," the director of the Vatican Observatory, the
Rev. Jose Funes, said Wednesday in an interview at this week's
conference.


Worden told The Associated Press: "I would certainly expect in the
next four or five years we'd have an Earth-sized planet in the
habitable zone."






 









  
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RE: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox

[Martin Baxter]

That's never stopped a network exec. Ask whoever greenlit "Alf". Or the guy who 
canceled "The Dresden Files".

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:06:25 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox


















 



  



  
  
  They are foolish if they let Conan go. 


On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:


























Well, this may all be a collection of moot points...

NBC sets Jay Leno's prime-time exit and return to late night: still no deal for 
Conan

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/01/nbcs-jeff-gaspin-sets-exit-date-for-leno-from-prime-time-still-no-deal-with-conan-obrien.html


"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 16:36:11 -0800

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox


















 



  



  
  
  Arsenio was at UPN then Fox. Or something like that. Fox just doesn't 
know how to run a show like the Tonight show. They should put Obrien back in 
his old spot and can Jimmy Fallon for being lame.




On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
 wrote:



































Wasn’t Arsenio at Fox?


 






From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter

Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:43 PM

To: SciFiNoir2

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox






 






Conan may want to talk to Joss Whedon before making that move...



"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
















To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: hellomahog...@gmail.com

Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 14:17:41 -0800

Subject: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox



  








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RE: [scifinoir2] Is Walt Disney developing a "Lost" ride?

[Martin Baxter]

And the smart kids will want to know where the time machine is...

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 16:11:09 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Is Walt Disney developing a "Lost" ride?


















 



  



  
  
  That would be hilarious... I can hear the questions now. "Ummm is that a 
Polar bear on a tropical island?"


On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
 wrote:


































This may be "Lost's" final season, but that doesn't mean ABC's
parent company Walt Disney is giving up on the franchise.  According to 
Movieline, a source within the Mouse House says a
"Lost" ride is one of several attractions being workshopped at Walt
Disney Imagineering for placement at one of the studio's theme parks.



According to the report, the "Lost " attraction would be a
motion-based dark ride featuring Kuka arm technology, a more mobile innovation
that Universal is using for its own "Harry Potter" theme park. 
Kuka currently sits two riders and moves them through the air while they are
covered with a projection screen similar to Epcot Center's "Mission:
SPACE."  No word on what storyline would be used or if cast members
would be involved in the ride.



Walt Disney World's Disney's Hollywood Studios could use a high profile
attraction like the "Lost" ride to attract more visitors, but its
unclear whether such an attraction would be more appropriate to Disneyland or
the ever-retooled California Adventure on the West Coast.


http://www.hitfix.com/galleries/2010-1-9-10-stories-you-might-have-missed-is-disney-developing-a-lost-ride



























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RE: [scifinoir2] Interesting Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance" on IFC now

[Martin Baxter]

Thanks, Mr Worf. That may be where I'm going wrong. Was looking under those 
other channels.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 16:23:06 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Interesting Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance"   
on IFC now


















 



  



  
  
  I did a search by the name on comcast and the only listing was for 
yesterday's showing on IFC. 


On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:


























Not showing in my listings either. Not sure, though, but it may have aired on 
Sundance instead of TMC.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 03:23:19 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Interesting Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance"  
on IFC now



















 



  



  
  
  
I'll keep an eye out.

- Original Message -
From: "Mr. Worf" 

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2010 5:04:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Interesting Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance"  
on IFC now









 



  



  
  
  Its on right now and there isn't any listing for a repeat. I think it 
will probably repeat next week. 


On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Keith Johnson  wrote:






















I think i read that it was showing on The Movie Channel today, but not sure?


- Original Message -
From: "Mr. Worf" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


Sent: Friday, January 8, 2010 3:46:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Interesting Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance"  
on IFC now



  





I just set my dvr to record it but I missed the start of the movie. :( 


On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Keith Johnson  
wrote:






I'm working at home today (twenty degrees farenheit here in Atlanta, with snow 
and ice last night that trapped me inside) and turned on the tube to keep me 
occupied. After hours of ESPN pontification, I decided to scroll the dial, and 
came across an odd-looking movie on IFC. It's called "Renaissance". It takes 
place in 2054 in Paris, and deals with a cop trying to uncover who kidnapped a 
female scientist. The movie is rotoscoped, in black-and-white, and has a very 
funky look, kind of like elements of "Sin City", "The Waking Life", and an old 
Felix the Cat (black and white) cartoon combined with a BladeRunner 
sensibility. Not sure if I like it yet, but it's very interesting. Daniel Craig 
is one of the actors. Took six years to make, but only cost bout fifteen 
million bucks. Looks cool with the sound off.



 

Anyone ever seen it?

 

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Re: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox

[Mr. Worf]

They are foolish if they let Conan go.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> Well, this may all be a collection of moot points...
>
> NBC sets Jay Leno's prime-time exit and return to late night: still no deal
> for Conan
>
>
> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/01/nbcs-jeff-gaspin-sets-exit-date-for-leno-from-prime-time-still-no-deal-with-conan-obrien.html
>
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 16:36:11 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox
>
>
>  Arsenio was at UPN then Fox. Or something like that. Fox just doesn't
> know how to run a show like the Tonight show. They should put Obrien back in
> his old spot and can Jimmy Fallon for being lame.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Tracey de Morsella <
> tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>  Wasn’t Arsenio at Fox?
>
>
>
> *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Martin Baxter
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:43 PM
> *To:* SciFiNoir2
> *Subject:* RE: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox
>
>
>
>
>
> Conan may want to talk to Joss Whedon before making that move...
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>  --
>
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 14:17:41 -0800
> Subject: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox
>
>
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100109/ap_en_tv/us_tv_jay_leno
>
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Kick Ass: the new everyman-"real life" superhero in underwear movie

[Mr. Worf]

That may because people would automatically associate it with batman. There
is a good story there though.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> I'm surprised that hasn't come down the pike as yet, a filthy-rich guy who
> wants to do good and goes the Bruce Wayne route..
>
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 17:15:41 -0800
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Kick Ass: the new everyman-"real life" superhero
> in underwear movie
>
>
>  I think I like this one for being slightly twisted :)
>
> Hey, has anyone seen the videos of folks that have been fighting crime in
> costume for real? Pretty interesting. None of them have any skills though.
> I'm still waiting for the millionaire to show up.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Martin Baxter 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> "It's a little kid."
>
> Who knows how to use a butterfly knife.
>
> I am THERE.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: ravena...@yahoo.com
> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 20:21:20 +
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Kick Ass: the new everyman-"real life" superhero in
> underwear movie
>
>
>  http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/08/kick-ass-the-trailer.html
>
>
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RE: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox

[Martin Baxter]

Well, this may all be a collection of moot points...

NBC sets Jay Leno's prime-time exit and return to late night: still no deal for 
Conan

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/01/nbcs-jeff-gaspin-sets-exit-date-for-leno-from-prime-time-still-no-deal-with-conan-obrien.html

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 16:36:11 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox


















 



  



  
  
  Arsenio was at UPN then Fox. Or something like that. Fox just doesn't 
know how to run a show like the Tonight show. They should put Obrien back in 
his old spot and can Jimmy Fallon for being lame.



On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
 wrote:



































Wasn’t Arsenio at Fox?

 





From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter

Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:43 PM

To: SciFiNoir2

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox





 





Conan may want to talk to Joss Whedon before making that move...



"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik















To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: hellomahog...@gmail.com

Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 14:17:41 -0800

Subject: [scifinoir2] O'Brien may go to Fox



  







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RE: [scifinoir2] Kick Ass: the new everyman-"real life" superhero in underwear movie

[Martin Baxter]

I'm surprised that hasn't come down the pike as yet, a filthy-rich guy who 
wants to do good and goes the Bruce Wayne route..

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 17:15:41 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Kick Ass: the new everyman-"real life" superhero in   
underwear movie


















 



  



  
  
  I think I like this one for being slightly twisted :)

Hey, has anyone seen the videos of folks that have been fighting crime in 
costume for real? Pretty interesting. None of them have any skills though. I'm 
still waiting for the millionaire to show up. 



On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:


























"It's a little kid."

Who knows how to use a butterfly knife. 


I am THERE.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 20:21:20 +

Subject: [scifinoir2] Kick Ass: the new everyman-"real life" superhero in 
underwear movie


















 



  



  
  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Astronomers on Verge of Finding Habitable Worlds

[Mr. Worf]

If we are to survive as a species we must venture out into the stars

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:

>
>
> More for corporations to ravage... I'm kinda hoping that they come up dry
> in the Earth-like category.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 17:17:30 -0800
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Astronomers on Verge of Finding Habitable Worlds
>
>
>
> Astronomers on Verge of Finding Habitable WorldsThe discovery of an
> Earth-like, extrasolar planet could happen sooner than you think.
> 
>  Fri Jan 8, 2010 12:01 PM ET | content provided by Seth Borenstein,
> Associated Press
>  [image: A Habitable, Earth-Like Exoplanet?] If there were an Earth-like
> body in the area Kepler is searching, the telescope would find it.
> *AP Photo/NASA*
>
>  Astronomers say they are on the verge of finding planets like Earth
> orbiting other stars, a key step in determining if we are alone in the
> universe.
> A top NASA official and other leading scientists say that within four or
> five years they should discover the first Earth-like 
> planetwhere 
> life could develop, or may have already. A planet close to the size of
> Earth could even be found sometime this year if preliminary hints from a new
> space telescope pan out.
> At the annual American Astronomical Society conference this week, each
> discovery involving so-called "exoplanets" -- those outside our solar system
> -- pointed to the same conclusion: Quiet planets like Earth where life
> could 
> developprobably
>  are plentiful, despite a violent universe of exploding stars,
> crushing black holes and colliding galaxies.
> NASA's new Kepler telescope and a wealth of new research from the suddenly
> hot and competitive exoplanet field generated noticeable buzz at the
> convention. Scientists are talking about being at "an incredible special
> place in history" and closer to answering a question that has dogged
> humanity since the beginning of civilization.
> "The fundamental question is: Are we alone? For the first time, there's an
> optimism that sometime in our lifetimes we're going to get to the bottom of
> that," said Simon "Pete" Worden, an astronomer who heads NASA's Ames
> Research Center. "If I were a betting man, which I am, I would bet we're not
> alone."
> Even the Roman Catholic Church has held scientific conferences about the
> prospect of extraterrestrial 
> life,
> including a meeting last November.
> "These are big questions that reflect upon the meaning of the human race in
> the universe," the director of the Vatican Observatory, the Rev. Jose Funes,
> said Wednesday in an interview at this week's conference.
> Worden told The Associated Press: "I would certainly expect in the next
> four or five years we'd have an Earth-sized planet in the habitable zone."
>
>
>
>
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RE: [scifinoir2] Astronomers on Verge of Finding Habitable Worlds

[Martin Baxter]

More for corporations to ravage... I'm kinda hoping that they come up dry in 
the Earth-like category.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 17:17:30 -0800
Subject: [scifinoir2] Astronomers on Verge of Finding Habitable Worlds


















 



  



  
  
  
Astronomers on Verge of Finding Habitable WorldsThe discovery of an Earth-like, 
extrasolar planet could happen sooner than you think.







Fri Jan 8, 2010 12:01 PM ET
| content provided by Seth Borenstein, Associated Press 












If there were an Earth-like body in the area Kepler is 
searching, the telescope would find it.

AP Photo/NASA






Astronomers
say they are on the verge of finding planets like Earth orbiting other
stars, a key step in determining if we are alone in the universe.


A top NASA official and other leading scientists say that within four or five 
years they should discover the first Earth-like planet
where life could develop, or may have already. A planet close to the
size of Earth could even be found sometime this year if preliminary
hints from a new space telescope pan out.


At the annual American Astronomical Society conference this week,
each discovery involving so-called "exoplanets" -- those outside our
solar system -- pointed to the same conclusion: Quiet planets like Earth where 
life could develop probably are plentiful, despite a violent universe of 
exploding stars, crushing black holes and colliding galaxies.



NASA's new Kepler telescope and a wealth of new research from the
suddenly hot and competitive exoplanet field generated noticeable buzz
at the convention. Scientists are talking about being at "an incredible
special place in history" and closer to answering a question that has
dogged humanity since the beginning of civilization.


"The fundamental question is: Are we alone? For the first time,
there's an optimism that sometime in our lifetimes we're going to get
to the bottom of that," said Simon "Pete" Worden, an astronomer who
heads NASA's Ames Research Center. "If I were a betting man, which I
am, I would bet we're not alone."


Even the Roman Catholic Church has held scientific conferences about the 
prospect of extraterrestrial life, including a meeting last November.



"These are big questions that reflect upon the meaning of the human
race in the universe," the director of the Vatican Observatory, the
Rev. Jose Funes, said Wednesday in an interview at this week's
conference.


Worden told The Associated Press: "I would certainly expect in the
next four or five years we'd have an Earth-sized planet in the
habitable zone."






 









  
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RE: out Immortel (ad vitam) RE: [scifinoir2] Interesting Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance" on IFC now

[Martin Baxter]

More than welcome!

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 01:36:28 +
Subject: Re: out Immortel (ad vitam) RE: [scifinoir2] Interesting 
Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance" on IFC now


















 



  



  
  
  
thanks for the feedback

- Original Message -
From: "Martin Baxter" 
To: "SciFiNoir2" 
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2010 6:18:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: out Immortel (ad vitam) RE: [scifinoir2] Interesting 
Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance" on IFC now








 



  



  
  
  


Keith, of the three movies you mention in your alst paragraph, I haven't seen 
the first, "This Waking Life". "The Polar Express", frankly, almost gave me 
nightmares, because it was just plain creepy to me. (And I'm the guy who yawned 
through all three of the "Saw" movies I was forced to watch by friends.) 
"Beowulf" has been running regularly on the Showtime networks for the better 
part of the month. It's alright. A few neat action scenes, wrapped around a 
plot so predictable that it's ridiculous.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 05:48:38 +
Subject: Re: out Immortel (ad vitam) RE: [scifinoir2] Interesting 
Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance" on IFC now


















 



  



  
  
  
I'll look out for it. My very first exposure to rotoscoping was with the film 
"Heavy Metal". I'm sure you've seen it? Loosely based on the magazine, a series 
of different animated, but equally gorgeous vignettes dealing with people 
affected by a green orb that is "...the sum of alll evila glowing jewel 
they must possess".   If you remember the movie, you remember the last segment 
about Tarna, the Tarakian who had to fight the Orb in the future. They used a 
real live model and rotoscoped her for Tarna. That's why the scene when she 
gets the magical sword look so realistic.

 

Speaking of rotoscoped films and films that try to blur the line between 
animation/real life, have you seen "This Waking Life", "Polar Express", or 
"Beowulf"? Did you like any of those? I haven't seen any of them. Have tried to 
watch "Polar Express", but the famous "dead eyes" (the uncanny valley, is it?) 
turned me off.

 


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From: "Tracey de Morsella" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2010 9:15:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: out Immortel (ad vitam) RE: [scifinoir2] Interesting 
Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance" on IFC now



  







Renaissance is great eye candy.  I would love to see more movies like it.  Has 
anyone checked out Immortel (ad vitam) ?  I love that film two
 
>From Wikipedia
 
The film combines live action footage with computer animation, It is notable as 
being one of the first major films (along with Able Edwards, Casshern and Sky 
Captain and the World of Tomorrow) to be shot entirely on a "digital backlot", 
blending live actors with computer generated surroundings. Immortel goes one 
step further than those films, however, in also having live actors interacting 
with semi photo-realistic CGI "humans" (as opposed to films such as Star Wars 
Episode I: The Phantom Menace and The Lord of the Rings film trilogy which 
featured fantasy creatures).
 
Plot summary from IMDB
This movie is set in the year 2095, hence the presence of mutant humans and 
extraterrestrials. The main character is known as Jill. She is not human. When 
she is discovered by Dr. Elma Turner she is diagnosed as being the most 
interesting genetic test subject Turner has ever come across. Her organs are 
not in the right place, she has no memory and she appears, biologically to be 
only three months old. Turner gives her a break, gives her an identity card and 
a place to stay, in exchange for being her guinea-pig to work on and discover 
more about. Nicopol is a frozen prisoner who is due to be released a year after 
the film is set. There is a problem in the prisoner ward and several are thrown 
down to grow (dying in the process), including Nicopol (but only his leg). 
There is a lot more to this story but I can't disclose it in this summary, I 
don't have the words.
 


From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:39 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Interesting Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance" 
on IFC now
 





Warm? Funny! I was going to make a run to the store--got a jones for either 
pizza or a chili dog--but I can't risk t

RE: [scifinoir2] Interesting Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance" on IFC now

[Martin Baxter]

That's great to hear. We've gotta keep you around for a few more centuries.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 01:39:06 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Interesting Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance" 
on IFC now


















 



  



  
  
  
Yeah, been taking those, along with Vitamin C, E, flaxseed oil, etc. 
- Original Message -
From: "Martin Baxter" 
To: "SciFiNoir2" 
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2010 6:47:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Interesting Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance" 
on IFC now








 



  



  
  
  


Wow, Keith. Extra vitamin D for you.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 21:39:09 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Interesting Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance" 
on IFC now


















 



  



  
  
  
Warm? Funny! I was going to make a run to the store--got a jones for either 
pizza or a chili dog--but I can't risk the car on our fairly steep driveway. My 
old car battery died, and I already made two trips to Sears, first to tote  
back a portable jumpstarter, then to carry the truly dead battery, then tote a 
new one back. None of the neighbors was around, so I had to hoof it in the cold 
carry not unsubstantial weights. thank goodness Sears is only half a mile from 
the house!

 

Renaissance looks very interesting. I need a second look too.

 

- Original Message -
From: "Martin Baxter" 
To: "SciFiNoir2" 
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2010 3:46:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Interesting Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance" 
on IFC now



  




Allow me to begin by saying how jealous I am that it's that warm where you are. 
(A toasty 18 here as I type.)

And I saw it last month, one of the first things I caught after DirecTV 
finished their installation. Fun movie. Need to see it again, though, to get 
the full flavor of it.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik







To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 20:43:02 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Interesting Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance" on 
IFC now

  




I'm working at home today (twenty degrees farenheit here in Atlanta, with snow 
and ice last night that trapped me inside) and turned on the tube to keep me 
occupied. After hours of ESPN pontification, I decided to scroll the dial, and 
came across an odd-looking movie on IFC. It's called "Renaissance". It takes 
place in 2054 in Paris, and deals with a cop trying to uncover who kidnapped a 
female scientist. The movie is rotoscoped, in black-and-white, and has a very 
funky look, kind of like elements of "Sin City", "The Waking Life", and an old 
Felix the Cat (black and white) cartoon combined with a BladeRunner 
sensibility. Not sure if I like it yet, but it's very interesting. Daniel Craig 
is one of the actors. Took six years to make, but only cost bout fifteen 
million bucks. Looks cool with the sound off.
 
Anyone ever seen it?
 
http://video.movies.go.com/renaissance/
 

 





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RE: out Immortel (ad vitam) RE: [scifinoir2] Interesting Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance" on IFC now

[Martin Baxter]

I regret not picking it up now, Angela.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: asrobin...@mindspring.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:32:19 +
Subject: Re: out Immortel (ad vitam) RE: [scifinoir2] Interesting 
Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance" on IFC now


















 



  



  
  
  I missed it.  They should always show movies more than once just for this 
very reason!!



I picked up Immortel on DVD because is was pretty good and -- likewise -- I 
don't like to rely on being able to catch obscure titles like that on TV again. 
 (Unlike movies such as Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, The Matrix, Indpendence 
Day, etc. one of which is running somewhere during any given week.)



Angela



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:

>

> 

> Tracey, "Immortel" has aired on Siffy a few times in the past year, mostly 
> late at night because of the mature subject matter. I loved it. Almost bought 
> it for myself when I fell across it back in November, but I passed. Well, my 
> nearly empty wallet passed.

> 

> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

> 

> 

> 

> 

> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

> From: tdli...@...

> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 18:15:08 -0800

> Subject: out Immortel (ad vitam) RE: [scifinoir2] Interesting 
> Animated/rotoscoped movie "Renaissance" on IFC now

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

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>   

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> 

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> 

> 

> Renaissance is

> great eye candy.  I would love to see more movies like it.  Has anyone checked

> out Immortel (ad vitam) ?  I love that film two

> 

>  

> 

> From Wikipedia

> 

>  

> 

> The film combines live action footage with computer animation,

> It is notable as being one of the first major films (along with Able Edwards,

> Casshern and Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow) to be shot entirely on a

> "digital backlot", blending live actors with computer generated

> surroundings. Immortel goes one step further than those films, however, in 
> also

> having live actors interacting with semi photo-realistic CGI "humans"

> (as opposed to films such as Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace and The

> Lord of the Rings film trilogy which featured fantasy creatures).

> 

>  

> 

> Plot summary from IMDB

> 

> This movie is set in the year 2095, hence the presence of

> mutant humans and extraterrestrials. The main character is known as Jill. She

> is not human. When she is discovered by Dr. Elma Turner she is diagnosed as

> being the most interesting genetic test subject Turner has ever come across.

> Her organs are not in the right place, she has no memory and she appears,

> biologically to be only three months old. Turner gives her a break, gives her

> an identity card and a place to stay, in exchange for being her guinea-pig to

> work on and discover more about. Nicopol is a frozen prisoner who is due to be

> released a year after the film is set. There is a problem in the prisoner ward

> and several are thrown down to grow (dying in the process), including Nicopol

> (but only his leg). There is a lot more to this story but I can't disclose it

> in this summary, I don't have the words.

> 

>  

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

> [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson

> 

> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:39 PM

> 

> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

> 

> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Interesting Animated/rotoscoped movie

> "Renaissance" on IFC now

> 

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> 

> 

> Warm? Funny! I

> was going to make a run to the store--got a jones for either pizza or a chili

> dog--but I can't risk the car on our fairly steep driveway. My old car battery

> died, and I already made two trips to Sears, first to tote  back a

> portable jumpstarter, then to carry the truly dead battery, then tote a new 
> one

> back. None of the neighbors was around, so I had to hoof it in the cold carry

> not unsubstantial weights. thank goodness Sears is only half a mile from the

> house!

> 

> 

>  

> 

> 

> Renaissance looks

> very interesting. I need a second look too.

> 

> 

>  

> 

> 

> - Original

> Message -

> 

> From: "Martin Baxter" 

> 

> To: "SciFiNoir2" 

> 

> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2010 3:46:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

> 

> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Interesting Animated/rotoscoped movie

> "Renaissance" on IFC now

> 

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> 

> 

> 

> Allow me to begin by saying how jealous I am that it's that warm

> where you are. (A toasty 18 here as I type.)

>

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Clash of the Titans 2010

[Martin Baxter]

Neither am I, rave. Except for the cool armor that Liam Neeson will be 
sporting, that is.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:55:38 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Clash of the Titans 2010


















 



  



  
  
  "Clash of the Titans" was the "Avatar" of my sane and sober youth.  Loved 
the whole Ray Harryhausen oeuvre, "Jason and the Argonauts" remaining an 
all-time favorite. Not really feeling any love for the remake, though.



~rave!



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:

>

> http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi342754585/ trailer #1

> 

> http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi2626946073/   trailer #2

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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: New movie: From Paris with Love

[Martin Baxter]

Nah, rave... that's his head. A fake would look better. (He's got the money to 
splurge.) And I was going to say that U_e B__l was, but I got my wires crossed. 
My choice is the hardliest-working producer in the world.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:01:38 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: New movie: From Paris with Love


















 



  



  
  
  My son says Travolta looks like he is wearing a skull cap.  Is Luc Besson 
the hardest working producer in the world?



~rave?



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:

>

> Can you guess who this is?

> 

> http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810044692/video/15633114/20090918/103/15633114-1000-flash-s.93711076-,15633114-300-flash-s.93711068-,15633114-700-flash-s.93711072-,15633114-100-flash-s.93711105-,15633114-100-flash-s.93711065-,15633115-2700-qtv-s.93711078-,15633115-6800-qtv-s.93711080-,15633115-10300-qtv-s.93711081-

> 

> 

> 

> -- 

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RE: [scifinoir2] We can all sleep better now

[Martin Baxter]

But *why* should anyone have to accomodate their schedule to make H'Wood happy? 
They can't do us the consideration of providing decent viewing.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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> Well, they hadn't actually announced the date.   This is just them
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> 
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> >
> > Wow... so the whitehouse bends to hollywood? I think Canada is starting to 
> > look good.
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> >> The White House has not said when President Barack Obama's State of the 
> >> Union address will be delivered.  It did say, however, that it will not be 
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RE: [scifinoir2] WTF?

[Martin Baxter]

Oddly enough, I had a friend from down there, up until a year and change ago. 
During the span of our friendship, I was getting all sorts of derogatory 
comments about Aussies from all quarters, and vehemently defending the country, 
in his name. Since he proved himself to be an a$$hole of the first order and I 
put him down, I've begun to see the other side of the card. They're not a PC 
nation, and they just don't get it, which is strange as hell, considering how 
they treated the First People for almost three centuries.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

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  I see both sides on this one. Cricket and soccer both have rabid fans. It 
would be the same if he were at a football game and sitting on the wrong side 
of the stadium. An example is a Dodger fan at a Giants game during playoffs. 


However the racist part comes in because it was only people of color that was 
enjoying the music and no other people enjoying the music. Even his date was 
enjoying the music. She had on a white shirt but was dancing. (and she was of 
color)


They seem to be a lot less sensitive in countries where there are less black 
folks. 


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RE: [scifinoir2] We can all sleep better now

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I'll be on the same flight, Mr Worf.

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  Wow... so the whitehouse bends to hollywood? I think Canada is starting 
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Re: [scifinoir2] We can all sleep better now

[Justin Mohareb]

Well, they hadn't actually announced the date.   This is just them
saying "it won't be this day".

Justin

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
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>
>
> Wow... so the whitehouse bends to hollywood? I think Canada is starting to 
> look good.
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
>>
>> The White House has not said when President Barack Obama's State of the 
>> Union address will be delivered.  It did say, however, that it will not be 
>> during the three-hour season premiere of the final season of "Lost," which 
>> will be broadcast on ABC on Feb. 2.
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Re: [scifinoir2] What or Who will Force West Out of Middle East and When?

[Mr. Worf]

A 6.5 on the west coast is just enough to get someone's attention but not do
any real damage. There were much bigger quakes in the middle east and in
China last year. If it were on the east coast it would have leveled NYC.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:00 AM, nathaniel x vance wrote:

>
>
> Dear Group,
> Word is that by *GOD*  ONE way or the OTHER, the mighty warmongering West
> is going to be ignominiously forced out of  the Oil RICH Middle East
> entirely most likely before or near the end of 2012 as calamity after
> calamity after calamity will make saving the Western homelands a more urgent
> priority!
>
> *January 10, 2010**
> *CALIFORNIA-
>  A powerful 6.5-magnitude earthquake struck off the coast of northern
> California. The quake occurred 35 kilometres west of Ferndale and 360
> kilometres northwest of Sacramento, at a depth of 16 kilometres. The temblor
> hit at 4:27 pm (0027 GMT) and was followed by a series of four aftershocks
> measuring 3.7, 3.8, 3.5 and 3.6. Windows broke or popped out of storefronts
> in Ferndale. Local media also reported a brief powercut, ruptured gas lines
> and there were initial reports of damage to Ferndale's city hall building.
> The initial jolt was felt as far away as San Francisco.
> <
> http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/earthquake-hits-off-california-coast/story-e6frf7lx-1225817775322>
> *
>
> The earthquake struck Eureka 
> Saturday, leaving much of the 
> city without power and police scanners buzzing
> with reports of damage and injuries. The quake, which lasted for around 30
> seconds, had power poles waving back and forth along Eureka streets and
> brought panicked residents out of their homes. The Bayshore Mall, as of 5:30
> p.m., had been closed off to customers and employees. It was unclear how
> many people were injured there, but one employee reported that several
> people were picked up by ambulances. Employees also reported light fixtures
> falling out of the ceiling and floor tiles popping up off the ground.
> Another employee reported seeing chunks of the ceiling fall onto customers.
>
> 
> *
>
> FLORIDA  - The US cold
> snap has struck the famously warm southern state of Florida, damaging key
> citrus crops and shocking both residents and tourists. Iguanas were seen
> falling from trees in southern Florida while manatees - or sea cows -
> congregated in warmer waters outside power plants. Temperatures have fallen
> to around 0C, far below normal levels in the state. Although temperatures in
> the southern state were nowhere near as brutal as in the northern US states
> which were blighted by snow drifts and arctic winds, the sudden dip was "a
> strange situation". Farmers and fruit-growers are worried that colder
> temperatures this weekend will damage more of their crop. Already some say
> that as much as 10% of their harvested oranges and lemons have been damaged
> by the formation of ice crystals. Concerns over the potential damage to
> orange crops has pushed up frozen concentrated orange juice futures in New
> York, which hit their highest levels in almost two years.
> 
> *
> *
> *What are the sagacious words of the space Zeta angel people on this
> matter??
> *  “*WHITHER THE WEATHER**”*
>
>
> The wicked ENDTIME - NOT the RIGHTEOUS.
> *http://Zetaheaven.org  *
>
>
>
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[scifinoir2] What or Who will Force West Out of Middle East and When?

[nathaniel x vance]

Dear Group,
Word is that by GOD  ONE way or the OTHER, the mighty warmongering West is 
going to be ignominiously forced out of  the Oil RICH Middle East entirely most 
likely before or near the end of 2012 as calamity after calamity after calamity 
will make saving the Western homelands a more urgent priority! 

January 10, 2010
CALIFORNIA - A powerful 6.5-magnitude earthquake struck off the coast of 
northern California. The quake occurred 35 kilometres west of Ferndale and 360 
kilometres northwest of Sacramento, at a depth of 16 kilometres. The temblor 
hit at 4:27 pm (0027 GMT) and was followed by a series of four aftershocks 
measuring 3.7, 3.8, 3.5 and 3.6. Windows broke or popped out of storefronts in 
Ferndale. Local media also reported a brief powercut, ruptured gas lines and 
there were initial reports of damage to Ferndale's city hall building. The 
initial jolt was felt as far away as San Francisco. 

*

The earthquake struck Eureka Saturday, leaving much of the city without power 
and police scanners buzzing with reports of damage and injuries. The quake, 
which lasted for around 30 seconds, had power poles waving back and forth along 
Eureka streets and brought panicked residents out of their homes. The Bayshore 
Mall, as of 5:30 p.m., had been closed off to customers and employees. It was 
unclear how many people were injured there, but one employee reported that 
several people were picked up by ambulances. Employees also reported light 
fixtures falling out of the ceiling and floor tiles popping up off the ground. 
Another employee reported seeing chunks of the ceiling fall onto customers.  
 
*

FLORIDA - The US cold snap has struck the famously warm southern state of 
Florida, damaging key citrus crops and shocking both residents and tourists. 
Iguanas were seen falling from trees in southern Florida while manatees - or 
sea cows - congregated in warmer waters outside power plants. Temperatures have 
fallen to around 0C, far below normal levels in the state. Although 
temperatures in the southern state were nowhere near as brutal as in the 
northern US states which were blighted by snow drifts and arctic winds, the 
sudden dip was "a strange situation". Farmers and fruit-growers are worried 
that colder temperatures this weekend will damage more of their crop. Already 
some say that as much as 10% of their harvested oranges and lemons have been 
damaged by the formation of ice crystals. Concerns over the potential damage to 
orange crops has pushed up frozen concentrated orange juice futures in New 
York, which hit their highest levels in almost two years.
  
**
What are the sagacious words of the space Zeta angel people on this matter??
  “WHITHER THE WEATHER” 


The wicked ENDTIME - NOT the RIGHTEOUS. 
http://Zetaheaven.org  

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Clash of the Titans 2010

[Mr. Worf]

That's because it is basically 300 without the green screen and surround
cameras. I think that it will be a Saturday afternoon thing.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

> "Clash of the Titans" was the "Avatar" of my sane and sober youth.  Loved
> the whole Ray Harryhausen oeuvre, "Jason and the Argonauts" remaining an
> all-time favorite. Not really feeling any love for the remake, though.
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi342754585/ trailer #1
> >
> > http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi2626946073/   trailer #2
> >
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Ixnay on the female characters talking to each otheryay

[Mr. Worf]

This is a true thing, and that is the problem with Hollywood. They could be
more proactive and push American society in a better direction but that
would take a spine.

I started reading the racism and sexism in Hollywood article but had to
stop. I was having a flashback to when I had to deal with a similar
situation at my first job. They hired a racist as VP of marketing. They
would sit around after work and tell racist jokes from the 101 racist joke
book.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
> http://thehathorlegacy.com/why-film-schools-teach-screenwriters-not-to-pass-the-bechdel-test/
>
> The Bechdel Test
>
> 1) there are at least two named female characters, who
>
> 2) talk to each other about
>
> 3) something other than a man.
>
> So simple, and yet as you go through all your favorite movies (and most of
> your favorite TV shows, though there's a little more variety in TV), you
> find very few movies pass this test.
>
> My scripts had multiple women with names. Talking to each other. About
> something other than men. That, they explained nervously, was not okay.
>
> ~Jennifer Kesler
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Re: [scifinoir2] We can all sleep better now

[Mr. Worf]

Wow... so the whitehouse bends to hollywood? I think Canada is starting to
look good.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

> The White House has not said when President Barack Obama's State of the
> Union address will be delivered.  It did say, however, that it will not be
> during the three-hour season premiere of the final season of "Lost," which
> will be broadcast on ABC on Feb. 2.
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] WTF?

[Mr. Worf]

I see both sides on this one. Cricket and soccer both have rabid fans. It
would be the same if he were at a football game and sitting on the wrong
side of the stadium. An example is a Dodger fan at a Giants game during
playoffs.

However the racist part comes in because it was only people of color that
was enjoying the music and no other people enjoying the music. Even his date
was enjoying the music. She had on a white shirt but was dancing. (and she
was of color)

They seem to be a lot less sensitive in countries where there are less black
folks.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FftZt-Dw_hQ
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New movie: From Paris with Love

[Mr. Worf]

You have to strike while its hot.

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

> My son says Travolta looks like he is wearing a skull cap.  Is Luc Besson
> the hardest working producer in the world?
>
> ~rave?
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:
> >
> > Can you guess who this is?
> >
> >
> http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810044692/video/15633114/20090918/103/15633114-1000-flash-s.93711076-,15633114-300-flash-s.93711068-,15633114-700-flash-s.93711072-,15633114-100-flash-s.93711105-,15633114-100-flash-s.93711065-,15633115-2700-qtv-s.93711078-,15633115-6800-qtv-s.93711080-,15633115-10300-qtv-s.93711081-
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Re: [scifinoir2] Have you de-blackened your resume?

[Adrianne Brennan]

I still remember a recruiter telling me that the person whom I was
interviewing with was named "Ren". Actually that was her *LAST* name. Her
first name was very Chinese and hence unpronounceable to him.

Naturally you look stupid as a candidate when you go there and call them by
the wrong name to someone. But I still got the job, and loved it there. ;)

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On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Gerald Haynes  wrote:

>
>
> I was told by an Urban League advisor to use my nickname when I was looking
> for my first Engineering job. She went more down the line of pronunciation.
> Interviewers are uneasy about interviewing someone with a name that doesn't
> have a clear pronunciation. I thought about adding a phonetic subscript to
> the resume but ended up just using my nickname which I still do to this day.
>
> Gerald Haynes
> http://thesmallfries.com - Calvin & Hobbes who?
> http://dontarrestus.com - Latino based sci-fi comic strip fun
>
>
> --
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> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Sun, January 10, 2010 10:31:29 AM
> *Subject:* [scifinoir2] Have you de-blackened your resume?
>
>
>
> http://www.npr. org/templates/ story/story. php?storyId= 
> 122416323
>
> A 2004 study showed that resumes with recognizably African-American names
> were twice as likely to be ignored as other resumes. Black job seekers with
> advanced degrees have reported removing any indication of race from their
> resume just to get a shot at job. Host Liane Hansen talks to diversity
> columnist Michelle T. Johnson of the Kansas City Star about the
> difficulties.
>
>
>
>
> 

Re: [scifinoir2] Have you de-blackened your resume?

[Gerald Haynes]

I was told by an Urban League advisor to use my nickname when I was looking for 
my first Engineering job. She went more down the line of pronunciation. 
Interviewers are uneasy about interviewing someone with a name that doesn't 
have a clear pronunciation. I thought about adding a phonetic subscript to the 
resume but ended up just using my nickname which I still do to this day.
 Gerald Haynes
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http://dontarrestus.com - Latino based sci-fi comic strip fun





From: Kelwyn 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, January 10, 2010 10:31:29 AM
Subject: [scifinoir2] Have you de-blackened your resume?

  
http://www.npr. org/templates/ story/story. php?storyId= 122416323

A 2004 study showed that resumes with recognizably African-American names were 
twice as likely to be ignored as other resumes. Black job seekers with advanced 
degrees have reported removing any indication of race from their resume just to 
get a shot at job. Host Liane Hansen talks to diversity columnist Michelle T. 
Johnson of the Kansas City Star about the difficulties.


 


  

Re: [scifinoir2] We can all sleep better now

[Adrianne Brennan]

ALL HAIL OUR GREAT AND GLORIOUS NATION! LET'S HEAR IT FOR A GEEK IN THE
WHITE HOUSE!!! :D

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On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

> The White House has not said when President Barack Obama's State of the
> Union address will be delivered.  It did say, however, that it will not be
> during the three-hour season premiere of the final season of "Lost," which
> will be broadcast on ABC on Feb. 2.
>
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[scifinoir2] We can all sleep better now, too

[Kelwyn]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100108/ap_on_en_mo/cn_canada_halle_berry

MONTREAL – Canadian police said Friday that it was wrong for one of their 
officers to whisk Halle Berry, her model boyfriend and baby through airport 
security at Montreal's Trudeau airport.
A constable at the airport decided to let the couple pass a long line after a 
spur-of-the-moment request on Monday by Gabriel Aubry, a Quebec model who is 
Berry's boyfriend and father of her 22-month-old daughter, Nahla.

An embarrassed Montreal police force issued a directive to its officers Friday, 
urging them to avoid a repeat of the episode. The officer involved will not be 
reprimanded and the police airport unit will institute stricter rules for the 
future, Cacchione added.

[scifinoir2] We can all sleep better now

[Kelwyn]

The White House has not said when President Barack Obama's State of the Union 
address will be delivered.  It did say, however, that it will not be during the 
three-hour season premiere of the final season of "Lost," which will be 
broadcast on ABC on Feb. 2.

[scifinoir2] Have you de-blackened your resume?

[Kelwyn]

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122416323

A 2004 study showed that resumes with recognizably African-American names were 
twice as likely to be ignored as other resumes. Black job seekers with advanced 
degrees have reported removing any indication of race from their resume just to 
get a shot at job. Host Liane Hansen talks to diversity columnist Michelle T. 
Johnson of the Kansas City Star about the difficulties.

[scifinoir2] WTF?

[Kelwyn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FftZt-Dw_hQ

[scifinoir2] Ixnay on the female characters talking to each otheryay

[Kelwyn]

http://thehathorlegacy.com/why-film-schools-teach-screenwriters-not-to-pass-the-bechdel-test/

The Bechdel Test

1) there are at least two named female characters, who

2) talk to each other about

3) something other than a man.

So simple, and yet as you go through all your favorite movies (and most of your 
favorite TV shows, though there's a little more variety in TV), you find very 
few movies pass this test.

My scripts had multiple women with names. Talking to each other. About 
something other than men. That, they explained nervously, was not okay.

~Jennifer Kesler

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: My wicked spoilery review of Avatar

[Adrianne Brennan]

Omfgs, yes. He was made of awesome. Wish they had kept him around. D:

~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
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The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m):
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On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

> Being who I be, I was, and remain, a Mr. Eko fan.
>
> ~rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan 
> wrote:
> >
> > Me too. My fav chars remain Locke and Hurley, however. :D
> >
> > I ship Locke/Linus. I'm sick...
> >
> > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
> > http://www.adriannebrennan.com
> > Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series:
> > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon
> > Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
> > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
> > The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m):
> > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Kelwyn  wrote:
> >
> > > I was a huge Ana Lucia fan (am a huge Michelle Rodriguez fan - my
> daughter
> > > and I adore "Girlfight") - and I hated the punk ass way she was killed
> on
> > > "Lost."
> > >
> > > ~(no)rave!
> > >
> > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan  >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just went to see this movie in 3D IMAX. O HOLY HELL AND SHIT IT WAS
> > > AMAZING!
> > > >
> > > > First of all, let's hear it for the women of the movie. There were no
> > > > screaming damsels in distress, no wide-doe-y eyed girls--every woman
> in
> > > this
> > > > film held their own as unique people who didn't need a man to help
> them
> > > wipe
> > > > their noses, and I adored them.
> > > >
> > > > The moment I heard Sigourney Weaver's voice, I squeed. No, really. I
> had
> > > not
> > > > read a single thing about this movie in advance, never seen saw the
> > > trailer,
> > > > and hence didn't know she was in it. I think I spent a good couple of
> > > > minutes bouncing up and down in my seat with extreme glee and squee.
> As
> > > to
> > > > be expected, her character Grace was awesome with several layers of
> > > > awesomesauce. The only other characters who hit me with as much
> awesome
> > > was
> > > > Neytiri, a very feisty, vivacious, and independent Na'vi woman and
> the
> > > > Marine pilot Ana Lucia. Now, I keep calling her Ana Lucia cause my
> first
> > > > reaction upon seeing her was "OMFGS IT'S ANA LUCIA FROM LOST  <3"
> and
> > > I
> > > > never even caught her name. I had to look it up when I got home. It's
> > > Trudy.
> > > > Anyhow, she stuck in my head as Ana Lucia and of course, she also
> kicked
> > > > ass.
> > > >
> > > > That all being said, I read a few things from here and elsewhere on
> the
> > > > whole race issue in regards to Avatar. But that's not the sole thing
> this
> > > > movie touched upon. If you didn't at one point feel either
> uncomfortable
> > > or
> > > > filled with rage at how ANY minority was treated, you were not paying
> > > > attention.
> > > >
> > > > I'll make the list:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Disabled. Jake Sully, a paraplegic Marine is referred to as "meals
> on
> > > > wheels" and his condition scoffed at by others on the mission. I felt
> for
> > > > this man and when he got a body that could stand and WALK, it nearly
> > > brought
> > > > tears of joy to my eyes. That alone was a miracle for him, let alone
> > > > everything else he experienced as a Na'vi.
> > > >
> > > > 2) Gender. Dr Grace Augustine, a smart, no-nonsense woman who stands
> up
> > > to
> > > > the Colonel and for her pains, gets condescended to and even earned
> the
> > > "c"
> > > > word for her remarks. Oh yes, *that* c-word. Ooh. I wanted to punch
> him
> > > in
> > > > the face so hard.
> > > >
> > > > 3) Religion. When the Na'vi's deity is mentioned, there is derisive
> > > laughter
> > > > and chuckles from the audience. Awww, poor souls don't got Christ?
> How
> > > dare
> > > > they. I'm of a minority faith myself, so this one really got to me.
> But
> > > it
> > > > was meant to; that's the beauty of Avatar--no one walks away without
> a
> > > huge
> > > > magnifying glass on our attitudes towards differences amongst people
> in
> > > the
> > > > world.
> > > >
> > > > 4) Race. The constant reference to the Na'vi as "savages", the
> complete
> > > > disregard for them as people...this movie didn't hold back nor pull
> any
> > > > punches. And when it pans in on the researchers' faces, their
> reactions
> > > to
> > > > what's going on...you know that it's hitting them how unbelievably
> > > > morally reprehensible the Colonel's actions are.
> > > >
> > > > There will be people who will have any one of those hot buttons
> listed
> > > > above, and may have been turned off towards seeing it becaus

[scifinoir2] Re: New movie: From Paris with Love

[Kelwyn]

My son says Travolta looks like he is wearing a skull cap.  Is Luc Besson the 
hardest working producer in the world?

~rave?

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:
>
> Can you guess who this is?
> 
> http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810044692/video/15633114/20090918/103/15633114-1000-flash-s.93711076-,15633114-300-flash-s.93711068-,15633114-700-flash-s.93711072-,15633114-100-flash-s.93711105-,15633114-100-flash-s.93711065-,15633115-2700-qtv-s.93711078-,15633115-6800-qtv-s.93711080-,15633115-10300-qtv-s.93711081-
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
> Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
>

[scifinoir2] Re: Clash of the Titans 2010

[Kelwyn]

"Clash of the Titans" was the "Avatar" of my sane and sober youth.  Loved the 
whole Ray Harryhausen oeuvre, "Jason and the Argonauts" remaining an all-time 
favorite. Not really feeling any love for the remake, though.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:
>
> http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi342754585/ trailer #1
> 
> http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi2626946073/   trailer #2
>

[scifinoir2] Re: My wicked spoilery review of Avatar

[Kelwyn]

Being who I be, I was, and remain, a Mr. Eko fan.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan  
wrote:
>
> Me too. My fav chars remain Locke and Hurley, however. :D
> 
> I ship Locke/Linus. I'm sick...
> 
> ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com
> Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon
> Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
> The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m):
> http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Kelwyn  wrote:
> 
> > I was a huge Ana Lucia fan (am a huge Michelle Rodriguez fan - my daughter
> > and I adore "Girlfight") - and I hated the punk ass way she was killed on
> > "Lost."
> >
> > ~(no)rave!
> >
> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Just went to see this movie in 3D IMAX. O HOLY HELL AND SHIT IT WAS
> > AMAZING!
> > >
> > > First of all, let's hear it for the women of the movie. There were no
> > > screaming damsels in distress, no wide-doe-y eyed girls--every woman in
> > this
> > > film held their own as unique people who didn't need a man to help them
> > wipe
> > > their noses, and I adored them.
> > >
> > > The moment I heard Sigourney Weaver's voice, I squeed. No, really. I had
> > not
> > > read a single thing about this movie in advance, never seen saw the
> > trailer,
> > > and hence didn't know she was in it. I think I spent a good couple of
> > > minutes bouncing up and down in my seat with extreme glee and squee. As
> > to
> > > be expected, her character Grace was awesome with several layers of
> > > awesomesauce. The only other characters who hit me with as much awesome
> > was
> > > Neytiri, a very feisty, vivacious, and independent Na'vi woman and the
> > > Marine pilot Ana Lucia. Now, I keep calling her Ana Lucia cause my first
> > > reaction upon seeing her was "OMFGS IT'S ANA LUCIA FROM LOST  <3" and
> > I
> > > never even caught her name. I had to look it up when I got home. It's
> > Trudy.
> > > Anyhow, she stuck in my head as Ana Lucia and of course, she also kicked
> > > ass.
> > >
> > > That all being said, I read a few things from here and elsewhere on the
> > > whole race issue in regards to Avatar. But that's not the sole thing this
> > > movie touched upon. If you didn't at one point feel either uncomfortable
> > or
> > > filled with rage at how ANY minority was treated, you were not paying
> > > attention.
> > >
> > > I'll make the list:
> > >
> > > 1) Disabled. Jake Sully, a paraplegic Marine is referred to as "meals on
> > > wheels" and his condition scoffed at by others on the mission. I felt for
> > > this man and when he got a body that could stand and WALK, it nearly
> > brought
> > > tears of joy to my eyes. That alone was a miracle for him, let alone
> > > everything else he experienced as a Na'vi.
> > >
> > > 2) Gender. Dr Grace Augustine, a smart, no-nonsense woman who stands up
> > to
> > > the Colonel and for her pains, gets condescended to and even earned the
> > "c"
> > > word for her remarks. Oh yes, *that* c-word. Ooh. I wanted to punch him
> > in
> > > the face so hard.
> > >
> > > 3) Religion. When the Na'vi's deity is mentioned, there is derisive
> > laughter
> > > and chuckles from the audience. Awww, poor souls don't got Christ? How
> > dare
> > > they. I'm of a minority faith myself, so this one really got to me. But
> > it
> > > was meant to; that's the beauty of Avatar--no one walks away without a
> > huge
> > > magnifying glass on our attitudes towards differences amongst people in
> > the
> > > world.
> > >
> > > 4) Race. The constant reference to the Na'vi as "savages", the complete
> > > disregard for them as people...this movie didn't hold back nor pull any
> > > punches. And when it pans in on the researchers' faces, their reactions
> > to
> > > what's going on...you know that it's hitting them how unbelievably
> > > morally reprehensible the Colonel's actions are.
> > >
> > > There will be people who will have any one of those hot buttons listed
> > > above, and may have been turned off towards seeing it because they think
> > > it's "just another Pocahontas/Dances with Wolves flick". If this is you,
> > you
> > > could not possibly be more wrong in understanding what is really going on
> > in
> > > Avatar. This movie is *meant* to grab you, disturb you, and thrill you.
> > It's
> > > meant to make you think. But it goes far deeper than just race, gender,
> > > creed, or disability: it's talking about nature versus civilization--a
> > huge
> > > irony for a movie steeped in technology just to be able to produce it,
> > but
> > > true nonetheless. More than that, it's instructing on the dangers of
> > human
> > > arrogance towards not just those who are different but also in our
> > capacity
> > > to live and exist in the world around us. The Na'vi ex