Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 Signal
Just glimpsed the Today Show, and they're discussing possible fixes for it, including distributing free rubber bumper sleeves to minimize the "death grip", but that's being questioned, because it makes the iPhone looks less sleek. Martin (So glad he's a Tracfone guy) On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Mr. Worf wrote: > > > Well, someone has to be the Guinea pig. :) > > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: > >> >> >> And then they're left crying when it breaks down on them, while those who >> followed Keith's example and waited are still up and running. >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> All most people are doing is paying for bragging rights when they buy >>> early. "I bought the new X see how cool I am?" >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Keith Johnson < >>> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> true dat...it's one reason i'm rarely an early adopter of new tech >>>> nowadays. I let the bugs get worked out, the price drop, and the feature >>>> set >>>> expand before I buy. >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Martin Baxter" >>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:40:25 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 >>>> Signal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Keith, I can't help but think that Apple's line of thinking was "Let's >>>> get the product out there... they'll lap it up so fast that they'll never >>>> notice things like that." >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Keith Johnson < >>>> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The phone shouldn't be that sensitive, 'cause you never know how >>>>> someone will hold a device--especially a phone. I'm not quite sure how >>>>> duct >>>>> tape fixes the problem, though.Apple's frustrating at times with what >>>>> they give us and what they don't. For my iPod, for example, I stay upset >>>>> that it doesn't have a built in antenna for radio reception. The device >>>>> must >>>>> have headphones, which function as the antenna. The problem is, that makes >>>>> it very sensitive to positioning, so that I sometimes find myself fiddling >>>>> with the position of the headphone cord to strengthen signals for weaker >>>>> stations. Reminds me of the days when we had to keep adjusting the "rabbit >>>>> ears" for the old TVs. Why Apple couldn't have lined the inside of the >>>>> iPod >>>>> with a flat antenna, and then let the headphones *add* their strength to >>>>> that, is beyond me. I know there's room inside for that. I guess it's cost >>>>> control, but in this one aspect, it was poor design. So I wouldn't be >>>>> surprised if there's a design issue with the iPhone 4 antenna, and not >>>>> just >>>>> the simple software glitch they keep putting forth as the cause. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>> From: "Martin Baxter" >>>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:07:06 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 >>>>> Signal >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I didn't initially see why anyone would hold a phone by the bottom like >>>>> that to lose signal strength, until Sunday, when I was running an errand >>>>> with my niece. That's how she texts, so I figure that's how all of the >>>>> kids >>>>> do it. Myself, I text by cupping my phone in my right hand and making the >>>>> keystrokes with my left index finger. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I think that it is just a design flaw. If you touch the corner of the >>>>>> phone it is
Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 Signal
Well, someone has to be the Guinea pig. :) On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > And then they're left crying when it breaks down on them, while those who > followed Keith's example and waited are still up and running. > > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: > >> >> >> All most people are doing is paying for bragging rights when they buy >> early. "I bought the new X see how cool I am?" >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Keith Johnson < >> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> true dat...it's one reason i'm rarely an early adopter of new tech >>> nowadays. I let the bugs get worked out, the price drop, and the feature set >>> expand before I buy. >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Martin Baxter" >>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:40:25 PM >>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 >>> Signal >>> >>> >>> >>> Keith, I can't help but think that Apple's line of thinking was "Let's >>> get the product out there... they'll lap it up so fast that they'll never >>> notice things like that." >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Keith Johnson < >>> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The phone shouldn't be that sensitive, 'cause you never know how someone >>>> will hold a device--especially a phone. I'm not quite sure how duct tape >>>> fixes the problem, though.Apple's frustrating at times with what they >>>> give us and what they don't. For my iPod, for example, I stay upset that it >>>> doesn't have a built in antenna for radio reception. The device must have >>>> headphones, which function as the antenna. The problem is, that makes it >>>> very sensitive to positioning, so that I sometimes find myself fiddling >>>> with >>>> the position of the headphone cord to strengthen signals for weaker >>>> stations. Reminds me of the days when we had to keep adjusting the "rabbit >>>> ears" for the old TVs. Why Apple couldn't have lined the inside of the iPod >>>> with a flat antenna, and then let the headphones *add* their strength to >>>> that, is beyond me. I know there's room inside for that. I guess it's cost >>>> control, but in this one aspect, it was poor design. So I wouldn't be >>>> surprised if there's a design issue with the iPhone 4 antenna, and not just >>>> the simple software glitch they keep putting forth as the cause. >>>> >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Martin Baxter" >>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:07:06 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 >>>> Signal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I didn't initially see why anyone would hold a phone by the bottom like >>>> that to lose signal strength, until Sunday, when I was running an errand >>>> with my niece. That's how she texts, so I figure that's how all of the kids >>>> do it. Myself, I text by cupping my phone in my right hand and making the >>>> keystrokes with my left index finger. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think that it is just a design flaw. If you touch the corner of the >>>>> phone it is probably making you ground. Consumer Reports said that the >>>>> signal drops about -20db! Which can take about 1/2 of a signal. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Martin Baxter >>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Still not quite buying this... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/07/apples-clean-hands-may-have-dirtied-iphone-4-signal/ >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody >>>>>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >>>>> Mahogany at: >>>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody >>>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >>>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody >>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >> Mahogany at: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >> >> > > > -- > "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell > wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 Signal
And then they're left crying when it breaks down on them, while those who followed Keith's example and waited are still up and running. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: > > > All most people are doing is paying for bragging rights when they buy > early. "I bought the new X see how cool I am?" > > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Keith Johnson > wrote: > >> >> >> true dat...it's one reason i'm rarely an early adopter of new tech >> nowadays. I let the bugs get worked out, the price drop, and the feature set >> expand before I buy. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Martin Baxter" >> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:40:25 PM >> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 >> Signal >> >> >> >> Keith, I can't help but think that Apple's line of thinking was "Let's get >> the product out there... they'll lap it up so fast that they'll never notice >> things like that." >> >> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Keith Johnson < >> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> The phone shouldn't be that sensitive, 'cause you never know how someone >>> will hold a device--especially a phone. I'm not quite sure how duct tape >>> fixes the problem, though.Apple's frustrating at times with what they >>> give us and what they don't. For my iPod, for example, I stay upset that it >>> doesn't have a built in antenna for radio reception. The device must have >>> headphones, which function as the antenna. The problem is, that makes it >>> very sensitive to positioning, so that I sometimes find myself fiddling with >>> the position of the headphone cord to strengthen signals for weaker >>> stations. Reminds me of the days when we had to keep adjusting the "rabbit >>> ears" for the old TVs. Why Apple couldn't have lined the inside of the iPod >>> with a flat antenna, and then let the headphones *add* their strength to >>> that, is beyond me. I know there's room inside for that. I guess it's cost >>> control, but in this one aspect, it was poor design. So I wouldn't be >>> surprised if there's a design issue with the iPhone 4 antenna, and not just >>> the simple software glitch they keep putting forth as the cause. >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Martin Baxter" >>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:07:06 AM >>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 >>> Signal >>> >>> >>> >>> I didn't initially see why anyone would hold a phone by the bottom like >>> that to lose signal strength, until Sunday, when I was running an errand >>> with my niece. That's how she texts, so I figure that's how all of the kids >>> do it. Myself, I text by cupping my phone in my right hand and making the >>> keystrokes with my left index finger. >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I think that it is just a design flaw. If you touch the corner of the >>>> phone it is probably making you ground. Consumer Reports said that the >>>> signal drops about -20db! Which can take about 1/2 of a signal. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Martin Baxter >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Still not quite buying this... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/07/apples-clean-hands-may-have-dirtied-iphone-4-signal/ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody >>>>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >>>>> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >>>> Mahogany at: >>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody >>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell >> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > -- "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 Signal
All most people are doing is paying for bragging rights when they buy early. "I bought the new X see how cool I am?" On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Keith Johnson wrote: > > > true dat...it's one reason i'm rarely an early adopter of new tech > nowadays. I let the bugs get worked out, the price drop, and the feature set > expand before I buy. > > - Original Message - > From: "Martin Baxter" > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:40:25 PM > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 > Signal > > > > Keith, I can't help but think that Apple's line of thinking was "Let's get > the product out there... they'll lap it up so fast that they'll never notice > things like that." > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Keith Johnson > wrote: > >> >> >> The phone shouldn't be that sensitive, 'cause you never know how someone >> will hold a device--especially a phone. I'm not quite sure how duct tape >> fixes the problem, though.Apple's frustrating at times with what they >> give us and what they don't. For my iPod, for example, I stay upset that it >> doesn't have a built in antenna for radio reception. The device must have >> headphones, which function as the antenna. The problem is, that makes it >> very sensitive to positioning, so that I sometimes find myself fiddling with >> the position of the headphone cord to strengthen signals for weaker >> stations. Reminds me of the days when we had to keep adjusting the "rabbit >> ears" for the old TVs. Why Apple couldn't have lined the inside of the iPod >> with a flat antenna, and then let the headphones *add* their strength to >> that, is beyond me. I know there's room inside for that. I guess it's cost >> control, but in this one aspect, it was poor design. So I wouldn't be >> surprised if there's a design issue with the iPhone 4 antenna, and not just >> the simple software glitch they keep putting forth as the cause. >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Martin Baxter" >> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:07:06 AM >> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 >> Signal >> >> >> >> I didn't initially see why anyone would hold a phone by the bottom like >> that to lose signal strength, until Sunday, when I was running an errand >> with my niece. That's how she texts, so I figure that's how all of the kids >> do it. Myself, I text by cupping my phone in my right hand and making the >> keystrokes with my left index finger. >> >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> I think that it is just a design flaw. If you touch the corner of the >>> phone it is probably making you ground. Consumer Reports said that the >>> signal drops about -20db! Which can take about 1/2 of a signal. >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Martin Baxter >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Still not quite buying this... >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/07/apples-clean-hands-may-have-dirtied-iphone-4-signal/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody >>>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >>>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >>> Mahogany at: >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell >> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >> >> > > > -- > "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell > wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 Signal
true dat...it's one reason i'm rarely an early adopter of new tech nowadays. I let the bugs get worked out, the price drop, and the feature set expand before I buy. - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:40:25 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 Signal Keith, I can't help but think that Apple's line of thinking was "Let's get the product out there... they'll lap it up so fast that they'll never notice things like that." On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: The phone shouldn't be that sensitive, 'cause you never know how someone will hold a device--especially a phone. I'm not quite sure how duct tape fixes the problem, though. Apple's frustrating at times with what they give us and what they don't. For my iPod, for example, I stay upset that it doesn't have a built in antenna for radio reception. The device must have headphones, which function as the antenna. The problem is, that makes it very sensitive to positioning, so that I sometimes find myself fiddling with the position of the headphone cord to strengthen signals for weaker stations. Reminds me of the days when we had to keep adjusting the "rabbit ears" for the old TVs. Why Apple couldn't have lined the inside of the iPod with a flat antenna, and then let the headphones *add* their strength to that, is beyond me. I know there's room inside for that. I guess it's cost control, but in this one aspect, it was poor design. So I wouldn't be surprised if there's a design issue with the iPhone 4 antenna, and not just the simple software glitch they keep putting forth as the cause. - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" < martinbaxt...@gmail.com > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:07:06 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 Signal I didn't initially see why anyone would hold a phone by the bottom like that to lose signal strength, until Sunday, when I was running an errand with my niece. That's how she texts, so I figure that's how all of the kids do it. Myself, I text by cupping my phone in my right hand and making the keystrokes with my left index finger. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Mr. Worf < hellomahog...@gmail.com > wrote: I think that it is just a design flaw. If you touch the corner of the phone it is probably making you ground. Consumer Reports said that the signal drops about -20db! Which can take about 1/2 of a signal. On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Martin Baxter < martinbaxt...@gmail.com > wrote: Still not quite buying this... http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/07/apples-clean-hands-may-have-dirtied-iphone-4-signal/ -- "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 Signal
Keith, I can't help but think that Apple's line of thinking was "Let's get the product out there... they'll lap it up so fast that they'll never notice things like that." On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Keith Johnson wrote: > > > The phone shouldn't be that sensitive, 'cause you never know how someone > will hold a device--especially a phone. I'm not quite sure how duct tape > fixes the problem, though.Apple's frustrating at times with what they > give us and what they don't. For my iPod, for example, I stay upset that it > doesn't have a built in antenna for radio reception. The device must have > headphones, which function as the antenna. The problem is, that makes it > very sensitive to positioning, so that I sometimes find myself fiddling with > the position of the headphone cord to strengthen signals for weaker > stations. Reminds me of the days when we had to keep adjusting the "rabbit > ears" for the old TVs. Why Apple couldn't have lined the inside of the iPod > with a flat antenna, and then let the headphones *add* their strength to > that, is beyond me. I know there's room inside for that. I guess it's cost > control, but in this one aspect, it was poor design. So I wouldn't be > surprised if there's a design issue with the iPhone 4 antenna, and not just > the simple software glitch they keep putting forth as the cause. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Martin Baxter" > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:07:06 AM > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 > Signal > > > > I didn't initially see why anyone would hold a phone by the bottom like > that to lose signal strength, until Sunday, when I was running an errand > with my niece. That's how she texts, so I figure that's how all of the kids > do it. Myself, I text by cupping my phone in my right hand and making the > keystrokes with my left index finger. > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: > >> >> >> I think that it is just a design flaw. If you touch the corner of the >> phone it is probably making you ground. Consumer Reports said that the >> signal drops about -20db! Which can take about 1/2 of a signal. >> >> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Still not quite buying this... >>> >>> >>> http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/07/apples-clean-hands-may-have-dirtied-iphone-4-signal/ >>> >>> -- >>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody >>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >> Mahogany at: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >> >> > > > -- > "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell > wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > -- "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 Signal
The phone shouldn't be that sensitive, 'cause you never know how someone will hold a device--especially a phone. I'm not quite sure how duct tape fixes the problem, though. Apple's frustrating at times with what they give us and what they don't. For my iPod, for example, I stay upset that it doesn't have a built in antenna for radio reception. The device must have headphones, which function as the antenna. The problem is, that makes it very sensitive to positioning, so that I sometimes find myself fiddling with the position of the headphone cord to strengthen signals for weaker stations. Reminds me of the days when we had to keep adjusting the "rabbit ears" for the old TVs. Why Apple couldn't have lined the inside of the iPod with a flat antenna, and then let the headphones *add* their strength to that, is beyond me. I know there's room inside for that. I guess it's cost control, but in this one aspect, it was poor design. So I wouldn't be surprised if there's a design issue with the iPhone 4 antenna, and not just the simple software glitch they keep putting forth as the cause. - Original Message - From: "Martin Baxter" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:07:06 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 Signal I didn't initially see why anyone would hold a phone by the bottom like that to lose signal strength, until Sunday, when I was running an errand with my niece. That's how she texts, so I figure that's how all of the kids do it. Myself, I text by cupping my phone in my right hand and making the keystrokes with my left index finger. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Mr. Worf < hellomahog...@gmail.com > wrote: I think that it is just a design flaw. If you touch the corner of the phone it is probably making you ground. Consumer Reports said that the signal drops about -20db! Which can take about 1/2 of a signal. On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Martin Baxter < martinbaxt...@gmail.com > wrote: Still not quite buying this... http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/07/apples-clean-hands-may-have-dirtied-iphone-4-signal/ -- "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 Signal
Sent too soon, forgot to add that she doesn't lose signal strength when she does it. Which gives credence to your design flaw theory, Mr Worf. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:07 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: > I didn't initially see why anyone would hold a phone by the bottom like > that to lose signal strength, until Sunday, when I was running an errand > with my niece. That's how she texts, so I figure that's how all of the kids > do it. Myself, I text by cupping my phone in my right hand and making the > keystrokes with my left index finger. > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: > >> >> >> I think that it is just a design flaw. If you touch the corner of the >> phone it is probably making you ground. Consumer Reports said that the >> signal drops about -20db! Which can take about 1/2 of a signal. >> >> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Still not quite buying this... >>> >>> >>> http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/07/apples-clean-hands-may-have-dirtied-iphone-4-signal/ >>> >>> -- >>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody >>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! >> Mahogany at: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >> >> >> > > > > -- > "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell > wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > -- "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 Signal
I didn't initially see why anyone would hold a phone by the bottom like that to lose signal strength, until Sunday, when I was running an errand with my niece. That's how she texts, so I figure that's how all of the kids do it. Myself, I text by cupping my phone in my right hand and making the keystrokes with my left index finger. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: > > > I think that it is just a design flaw. If you touch the corner of the phone > it is probably making you ground. Consumer Reports said that the signal > drops about -20db! Which can take about 1/2 of a signal. > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: > >> >> >> Still not quite buying this... >> >> >> http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/07/apples-clean-hands-may-have-dirtied-iphone-4-signal/ >> >> -- >> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell >> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik >> >> >> > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > -- "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 Signal
I think that it is just a design flaw. If you touch the corner of the phone it is probably making you ground. Consumer Reports said that the signal drops about -20db! Which can take about 1/2 of a signal. On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > Still not quite buying this... > > > http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/07/apples-clean-hands-may-have-dirtied-iphone-4-signal/ > > -- > "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell > wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Apple's Clean Hands May Have Dirtied iPhone 4 Signal
Still not quite buying this... http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/07/apples-clean-hands-may-have-dirtied-iphone-4-signal/ -- "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
