Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be

2010-05-17 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, I didn't want to, but after he let me down by mentally tanking on
Alias...

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 i'd never considered this view of Abrams...


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 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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 Keith, he has this track record of launching something that's spectacular
 and soul-grabbing, that takes over your life entirely (Felicity, Alias
 and Lost), and then walking away from it for the next shiny new project. I
 think I posted something this morning, about some new genre shows coming
 down the pike. One's called Undercovers, with Boris Kodjoe (breathe,
 ladies!) and Gugu Mbatha-Raw, and any fans of Fringe here (which I now
 reluctantly admit to being one of) will be heartbroken to know that JJ's
 executive producer on it. And your utterly valid reasons for disliking his
 work are strong factors in my book as well.

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Keith Johnson 
 keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 No wonder you refuse to watch the new Trek film!

 Why do you loathe Abrams? I actually like his work, but only on original
 properties. I haven't cared for his stamp on existing things like MI-3 or
 Star Trek, because his need to add more action over the drama is more
 obvious, and slightly taints the franchise's core makeup, in my opinion.


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 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:47:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be



 I STILL loathe JJ with a passion, but I thought you folks might enjoy
 this.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be

2010-05-17 Thread Martin Baxter
Mr Worf, IMO, the idea he had with Alias did develop, and he still tanked
on it. he's like a kid in a room with a toy. He's okay playing with it until
the door opens, and a shiny newer toy is placed inside.

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 I think that he has too many oars in the water and suffers from genius
 syndrome. He is such a genius that he gets tired of an idea if it takes too
 long to develop it.

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Keith, he has this track record of launching something that's spectacular
 and soul-grabbing, that takes over your life entirely (Felicity, Alias
 and Lost), and then walking away from it for the next shiny new project. I
 think I posted something this morning, about some new genre shows coming
 down the pike. One's called Undercovers, with Boris Kodjoe (breathe,
 ladies!) and Gugu Mbatha-Raw, and any fans of Fringe here (which I now
 reluctantly admit to being one of) will be heartbroken to know that JJ's
 executive producer on it. And your utterly valid reasons for disliking his
 work are strong factors in my book as well.

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net
  wrote:



 No wonder you refuse to watch the new Trek film!

 Why do you loathe Abrams? I actually like his work, but only on original
 properties. I haven't cared for his stamp on existing things like MI-3 or
 Star Trek, because his need to add more action over the drama is more
 obvious, and slightly taints the franchise's core makeup, in my opinion.


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 From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:47:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be



 I STILL loathe JJ with a passion, but I thought you folks might enjoy
 this.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be

2010-05-17 Thread Martin Baxter
Justin, all the great talent in the world doesn't matter if the captain
walks away from the tiller. You mentioned the great talents A___s had on
Lost, and yet the show still got, if you'll pardon the unintentional pun,
lost.

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Justin Mohareb justinmoha...@gmail.comwrote:

 What's amusing is how narrow minded and disrespectful it is of the
 people who work on the show.  A tv show  is a lot more of a team
 effort than a film can be.

 Hell, the massively talented writers room on Lost alone is great, much
 less the great guidance given by Damon Lindelof (with the show since
 the beginning) and Carlton Cuse (with it since season one).

 But, you know, it's not surprising to hear that opinion.

 Justin

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Keith Johnson
 keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 
 
  i'd never considered this view of Abrams...
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:36:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It
 Could be
 
 
 
  Keith, he has this track record of launching something that's spectacular
 and soul-grabbing, that takes over your life entirely (Felicity, Alias
 and Lost), and then walking away from it for the next shiny new project. I
 think I posted something this morning, about some new genre shows coming
 down the pike. One's called Undercovers, with Boris Kodjoe (breathe,
 ladies!) and Gugu Mbatha-Raw, and any fans of Fringe here (which I now
 reluctantly admit to being one of) will be heartbroken to know that JJ's
 executive producer on it. And your utterly valid reasons for disliking his
 work are strong factors in my book as well.
 
  On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Keith Johnson 
 keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 
 
  No wonder you refuse to watch the new Trek film!
 
  Why do you loathe Abrams? I actually like his work, but only on original
 properties. I haven't cared for his stamp on existing things like MI-3 or
 Star Trek, because his need to add more action over the drama is more
 obvious, and slightly taints the franchise's core makeup, in my opinion.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
  To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:47:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
  Subject: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could
 be
 
 
 
  I STILL loathe JJ with a passion, but I thought you folks might enjoy
 this.
 
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  Date: Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM
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Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be

2010-05-17 Thread Mr. Worf
I can understand where he is coming from. I think that he may be in love
with the process of starting off something new then moving on from there. He
needs to be in a think tank type situation where he can come up with the
ideas and develop them then have other people complete them.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Mr Worf, IMO, the idea he had with Alias did develop, and he still tanked
 on it. he's like a kid in a room with a toy. He's okay playing with it until
 the door opens, and a shiny newer toy is placed inside.

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 I think that he has too many oars in the water and suffers from genius
 syndrome. He is such a genius that he gets tired of an idea if it takes too
 long to develop it.

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Keith, he has this track record of launching something that's spectacular
 and soul-grabbing, that takes over your life entirely (Felicity, Alias
 and Lost), and then walking away from it for the next shiny new project. I
 think I posted something this morning, about some new genre shows coming
 down the pike. One's called Undercovers, with Boris Kodjoe (breathe,
 ladies!) and Gugu Mbatha-Raw, and any fans of Fringe here (which I now
 reluctantly admit to being one of) will be heartbroken to know that JJ's
 executive producer on it. And your utterly valid reasons for disliking his
 work are strong factors in my book as well.

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Keith Johnson 
 keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote:



 No wonder you refuse to watch the new Trek film!

 Why do you loathe Abrams? I actually like his work, but only on original
 properties. I haven't cared for his stamp on existing things like MI-3 or
 Star Trek, because his need to add more action over the drama is more
 obvious, and slightly taints the franchise's core makeup, in my opinion.


 - Original Message -
 From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:47:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could
 be



 I STILL loathe JJ with a passion, but I thought you folks might enjoy
 this.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: martin_baxter...@hotmail.com
 Date: Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM
 Subject: Check out this site I found on StumbleUpon!
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 hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

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Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be

2010-05-17 Thread Martin Baxter
I could live with that, Mr Worf. As long as the show doesn't pay for his
dilettantism.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 I can understand where he is coming from. I think that he may be in love
 with the process of starting off something new then moving on from there. He
 needs to be in a think tank type situation where he can come up with the
 ideas and develop them then have other people complete them.

 On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Mr Worf, IMO, the idea he had with Alias did develop, and he still
 tanked on it. he's like a kid in a room with a toy. He's okay playing with
 it until the door opens, and a shiny newer toy is placed inside.

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 I think that he has too many oars in the water and suffers from genius
 syndrome. He is such a genius that he gets tired of an idea if it takes too
 long to develop it.

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Keith, he has this track record of launching something that's
 spectacular and soul-grabbing, that takes over your life entirely
 (Felicity, Alias and Lost), and then walking away from it for the 
 next
 shiny new project. I think I posted something this morning, about some new
 genre shows coming down the pike. One's called Undercovers, with Boris
 Kodjoe (breathe, ladies!) and Gugu Mbatha-Raw, and any fans of Fringe 
 here
 (which I now reluctantly admit to being one of) will be heartbroken to know
 that JJ's executive producer on it. And your utterly valid reasons for
 disliking his work are strong factors in my book as well.

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Keith Johnson 
 keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote:



 No wonder you refuse to watch the new Trek film!

 Why do you loathe Abrams? I actually like his work, but only on
 original properties. I haven't cared for his stamp on existing things like
 MI-3 or Star Trek, because his need to add more action over the drama is
 more obvious, and slightly taints the franchise's core makeup, in my
 opinion.


 - Original Message -
 From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:47:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could
 be



 I STILL loathe JJ with a passion, but I thought you folks might enjoy
 this.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: martin_baxter...@hotmail.com
 Date: Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM
 Subject: Check out this site I found on StumbleUpon!
 To: martinbaxt...@gmail.com


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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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 If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
 hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





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Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be

2010-05-17 Thread Mike Street
I agree with this here...he has some  good stuff and is talented and he
needs to probably mentor new talent and have them execute his projects. I
never got into LOSt but I LIVE for every episode of Fringe it's just so
good.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 I can understand where he is coming from. I think that he may be in love
 with the process of starting off something new then moving on from there. He
 needs to be in a think tank type situation where he can come up with the
 ideas and develop them then have other people complete them.

 On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Mr Worf, IMO, the idea he had with Alias did develop, and he still
 tanked on it. he's like a kid in a room with a toy. He's okay playing with
 it until the door opens, and a shiny newer toy is placed inside.

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 I think that he has too many oars in the water and suffers from genius
 syndrome. He is such a genius that he gets tired of an idea if it takes too
 long to develop it.

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Keith, he has this track record of launching something that's
 spectacular and soul-grabbing, that takes over your life entirely
 (Felicity, Alias and Lost), and then walking away from it for the 
 next
 shiny new project. I think I posted something this morning, about some new
 genre shows coming down the pike. One's called Undercovers, with Boris
 Kodjoe (breathe, ladies!) and Gugu Mbatha-Raw, and any fans of Fringe 
 here
 (which I now reluctantly admit to being one of) will be heartbroken to know
 that JJ's executive producer on it. And your utterly valid reasons for
 disliking his work are strong factors in my book as well.

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Keith Johnson 
 keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote:



 No wonder you refuse to watch the new Trek film!

 Why do you loathe Abrams? I actually like his work, but only on
 original properties. I haven't cared for his stamp on existing things like
 MI-3 or Star Trek, because his need to add more action over the drama is
 more obvious, and slightly taints the franchise's core makeup, in my
 opinion.


 - Original Message -
 From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:47:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could
 be



 I STILL loathe JJ with a passion, but I thought you folks might enjoy
 this.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: martin_baxter...@hotmail.com
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 Subject: Check out this site I found on StumbleUpon!
 To: martinbaxt...@gmail.com


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Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be

2010-05-17 Thread Mr. Worf
When the first season of Lost aired I thought that it was the coolest thing
on tv ever, but they couldn't out do what they did in the first season. I
didn't even mind that there were polar bears on a tropical island.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Mike Street streetfor...@gmail.com wrote:



 I agree with this here...he has some  good stuff and is talented and he
 needs to probably mentor new talent and have them execute his projects. I
 never got into LOSt but I LIVE for every episode of Fringe it's just so
 good.


 On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:



 I can understand where he is coming from. I think that he may be in love
 with the process of starting off something new then moving on from there. He
 needs to be in a think tank type situation where he can come up with the
 ideas and develop them then have other people complete them.

 On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Martin Baxter 
 martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Mr Worf, IMO, the idea he had with Alias did develop, and he still
 tanked on it. he's like a kid in a room with a toy. He's okay playing with
 it until the door opens, and a shiny newer toy is placed inside.

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.comwrote:



 I think that he has too many oars in the water and suffers from genius
 syndrome. He is such a genius that he gets tired of an idea if it takes too
 long to develop it.

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
  wrote:



 Keith, he has this track record of launching something that's
 spectacular and soul-grabbing, that takes over your life entirely
 (Felicity, Alias and Lost), and then walking away from it for the 
 next
 shiny new project. I think I posted something this morning, about some new
 genre shows coming down the pike. One's called Undercovers, with Boris
 Kodjoe (breathe, ladies!) and Gugu Mbatha-Raw, and any fans of Fringe 
 here
 (which I now reluctantly admit to being one of) will be heartbroken to 
 know
 that JJ's executive producer on it. And your utterly valid reasons for
 disliking his work are strong factors in my book as well.

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Keith Johnson 
 keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote:



 No wonder you refuse to watch the new Trek film!

 Why do you loathe Abrams? I actually like his work, but only on
 original properties. I haven't cared for his stamp on existing things 
 like
 MI-3 or Star Trek, because his need to add more action over the drama is
 more obvious, and slightly taints the franchise's core makeup, in my
 opinion.


 - Original Message -
 From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:47:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could
 be



 I STILL loathe JJ with a passion, but I thought you folks might enjoy
 this.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: martin_baxter...@hotmail.com
 Date: Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM
 Subject: Check out this site I found on StumbleUpon!
 To: martinbaxt...@gmail.com


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[scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be

2010-05-16 Thread Martin Baxter

 I STILL loathe JJ with a passion, but I thought you folks might enjoy this.

 -- Forwarded message --
From: martin_baxter...@hotmail.com
Date: Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM
Subject: Check out this site I found on StumbleUpon!
To: martinbaxt...@gmail.com


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If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik


Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be

2010-05-16 Thread Keith Johnson


No wonder you refuse to watch the new Trek film! 

Why do you loathe Abrams? I actually like his work, but only on original 
properties. I haven't cared for his stamp on existing things like MI-3 or Star 
Trek, because his need to add more action over the drama is more obvious, and 
slightly taints the franchise's core makeup, in my opinion. 


- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:47:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be 

  






I STILL loathe JJ with a passion, but I thought you folks might enjoy this. 


-- Forwarded message -- 
From:  martin_baxter...@hotmail.com  
Date: Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM 
Subject: Check out this site I found on StumbleUpon! 
To: martinbaxt...@gmail.com 





StumbleUpon | Discover Your Web.
Discover Favorites Stumblers 
Hi, 

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- Truthseeker013 


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Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be

2010-05-16 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, he has this track record of launching something that's spectacular
and soul-grabbing, that takes over your life entirely (Felicity, Alias
and Lost), and then walking away from it for the next shiny new project. I
think I posted something this morning, about some new genre shows coming
down the pike. One's called Undercovers, with Boris Kodjoe (breathe,
ladies!) and Gugu Mbatha-Raw, and any fans of Fringe here (which I now
reluctantly admit to being one of) will be heartbroken to know that JJ's
executive producer on it. And your utterly valid reasons for disliking his
work are strong factors in my book as well.

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 No wonder you refuse to watch the new Trek film!

 Why do you loathe Abrams? I actually like his work, but only on original
 properties. I haven't cared for his stamp on existing things like MI-3 or
 Star Trek, because his need to add more action over the drama is more
 obvious, and slightly taints the franchise's core makeup, in my opinion.


 - Original Message -
 From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:47:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be



 I STILL loathe JJ with a passion, but I thought you folks might enjoy this.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: martin_baxter...@hotmail.com
 Date: Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM
 Subject: Check out this site I found on StumbleUpon!
 To: martinbaxt...@gmail.com


 [image: StumbleUpon | Discover Your Web.]  
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 Hi,

 Fun stuff to think about...

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 Lege..http://www.stumbleupon.com/redirect.php?t=iu=42554612d=http%3A%2F%2Fio9.com%2F5536897%2Fis-fringes-alternate-universe-the-same-earth-as-i-am-legendl=2c=3w2z80576ve5lsa9
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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

   




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wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik


Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be

2010-05-16 Thread Keith Johnson
i'd never considered this view of Abrams... 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:36:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be 






Keith, he has this track record of launching something that's spectacular and 
soul-grabbing, that takes over your life entirely (Felicity, Alias and 
Lost), and then walking away from it for the next shiny new project. I think 
I posted something this morning, about some new genre shows coming down the 
pike. One's called Undercovers, with Boris Kodjoe (breathe, ladies!) and Gugu 
Mbatha-Raw, and any fans of Fringe here (which I now reluctantly admit to 
being one of) will be heartbroken to know that JJ's executive producer on it. 
And your utterly valid reasons for disliking his work are strong factors in my 
book as well. 


On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 











No wonder you refuse to watch the new Trek film! 

Why do you loathe Abrams? I actually like his work, but only on original 
properties. I haven't cared for his stamp on existing things like MI-3 or Star 
Trek, because his need to add more action over the drama is more obvious, and 
slightly taints the franchise's core makeup, in my opinion. 





- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
To: SciFiNoir2  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:47:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be 








I STILL loathe JJ with a passion, but I thought you folks might enjoy this. 


-- Forwarded message -- 
From:  martin_baxter...@hotmail.com  
Date: Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM 
Subject: Check out this site I found on StumbleUpon! 
To: martinbaxt...@gmail.com 






StumbleUpon | Discover Your Web.
Discover Favorites Stumblers 

Hi, 

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Is Fringe's Alternate Universe The Same Earth As I Am Lege.. 
io9.com/5536897/is-fringes-alt... 


- Truthseeker013 


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 







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If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be

2010-05-16 Thread Justin Mohareb
What's amusing is how narrow minded and disrespectful it is of the
people who work on the show.  A tv show  is a lot more of a team
effort than a film can be.

Hell, the massively talented writers room on Lost alone is great, much
less the great guidance given by Damon Lindelof (with the show since
the beginning) and Carlton Cuse (with it since season one).

But, you know, it's not surprising to hear that opinion.

Justin

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Keith Johnson
keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote:



 i'd never considered this view of Abrams...

 - Original Message -
 From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:36:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be



 Keith, he has this track record of launching something that's spectacular and 
 soul-grabbing, that takes over your life entirely (Felicity, Alias and 
 Lost), and then walking away from it for the next shiny new project. I 
 think I posted something this morning, about some new genre shows coming down 
 the pike. One's called Undercovers, with Boris Kodjoe (breathe, ladies!) 
 and Gugu Mbatha-Raw, and any fans of Fringe here (which I now reluctantly 
 admit to being one of) will be heartbroken to know that JJ's executive 
 producer on it. And your utterly valid reasons for disliking his work are 
 strong factors in my book as well.

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
 wrote:



 No wonder you refuse to watch the new Trek film!

 Why do you loathe Abrams? I actually like his work, but only on original 
 properties. I haven't cared for his stamp on existing things like MI-3 or 
 Star Trek, because his need to add more action over the drama is more 
 obvious, and slightly taints the franchise's core makeup, in my opinion.

 - Original Message -
 From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:47:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be



 I STILL loathe JJ with a passion, but I thought you folks might enjoy this.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: martin_baxter...@hotmail.com
 Date: Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM
 Subject: Check out this site I found on StumbleUpon!
 To: martinbaxt...@gmail.com


 Discover Favorites Stumblers
 Hi,

 Fun stuff to think about...

 Is Fringe's Alternate Universe The Same Earth As I Am Lege..
 io9.com/5536897/is-fringes-alt...


 - Truthseeker013


 View now! 

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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik



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Re: [scifinoir2] Fringe Is Becoming the Show Lost Wishes It Could be

2010-05-16 Thread Mr. Worf
I think that he has too many oars in the water and suffers from genius
syndrome. He is such a genius that he gets tired of an idea if it takes too
long to develop it.

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote:



 Keith, he has this track record of launching something that's spectacular
 and soul-grabbing, that takes over your life entirely (Felicity, Alias
 and Lost), and then walking away from it for the next shiny new project. I
 think I posted something this morning, about some new genre shows coming
 down the pike. One's called Undercovers, with Boris Kodjoe (breathe,
 ladies!) and Gugu Mbatha-Raw, and any fans of Fringe here (which I now
 reluctantly admit to being one of) will be heartbroken to know that JJ's
 executive producer on it. And your utterly valid reasons for disliking his
 work are strong factors in my book as well.

 On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Keith Johnson 
 keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 No wonder you refuse to watch the new Trek film!

 Why do you loathe Abrams? I actually like his work, but only on original
 properties. I haven't cared for his stamp on existing things like MI-3 or
 Star Trek, because his need to add more action over the drama is more
 obvious, and slightly taints the franchise's core makeup, in my opinion.


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 Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:47:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
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 I STILL loathe JJ with a passion, but I thought you folks might enjoy
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