Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna See "Beowulf"?

[Amy Harlib]

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Yes. I will definitely see this.  I just can't get enough fantasy films.
Cheers!
Amy


A friend sent the review below. i might see, not sure. The "faces like 
creepy" thing is my main problem, and lame dialogue added to that: don't 
know. It's again why i prefer either straight 2D animation, CGI animation 
that's not trying to be completely real (like "The Incredibles", which i 
love), or live action/FX mixtures like "300" and "Sin City".

Oh: I must admit i've never completely read "Beowulf". By the time I reached 
high school, a lot of the old traditional reading curriculum my older 
brothers had taken had been eliminated. I remember my brothers (ten and six 
years older than me) discussing  "The Faerie Queen", "Catcher in the Rye", 
"The Canterbury Tales", and many other classics they had to read. But when I 
got to high school, many of those--and more--were no longer required 
reading. Some were shifted to advanced classes, but most had been dropped. 
I'm not quite sure if it was just a decline in the quality of my high 
school, a growth in conservatism that made fare like this uncomfortable to 
the powers that be, or a combination.

-- Original message -- 
From: "Kerrance Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Here is the review from Movies.com:

OUR REVIEW
by Dave White

Who's in It: Ray Winstone, Angelina Jolie, Anthony Hopkins, Robin Wright 
Penn, Alison Lohman, Crispin Glover
The Basics: I shouldn't even have to tell you the story. You were supposed 
to have not blown it off when it was assigned in high school. But here's how 
it goes down: Beowulf battles the big giant monster Grendel. Kills Grendel 
(that's not a spoiler). Then he sort of "compromises" himself with Grendel's 
mother, who's not nearly as monstrous-looking as her son. Anyway, because 
Beowulf was thinking with his junk, the curse on the kingdom continues. This 
is why women should run all countries.
What's the Deal? This movie is 98 percent awesome (I'll get to the 2 percent 
lame in a minute) because the 3-D and the animation are that mind-blowing. 
Stuff comes at your face, from behind you and from below you. It's enough to 
make you sort of queasy if you're not ready for it. Anyway, the fight 
scenes - and there are plenty of them - are as exciting as anything you've 
seen in a movie all year. Who cares if it's all motion-capture and digital 
effects? It's not like you can do a live-action movie where someone fights a 
real sea monster. You're lucky you live right now instead of a hundred years 
ago when they had polio and no 3-D.
That Other 2 Percent: First, there's the matter of the dialogue, which 
sounds like people at a Renaissance fair drinking Pepsi and shouting, "Ay, 
wenches! This be fine mead!" But that's okay. It's not a documentary. The 
bigger problem is that they still haven't quite gotten human faces down yet 
in this motion-capture-animation stuff. Most of the time, Beowulf looks 
good, especially when he ages, but the secondary characters, and almost all 
the women save for Jolie (who sort of resembles a cartoon character in real 
life anyway) have blank expressionless doll faces, and it's sort of creepy.
How It's Like 300: Beowulf enjoys his own nudity. He fights naked. He 
lounges naked. He likes to recline on stone steps in the nude while having 
casual chats with his warrior comrades. Make him mad, and the first thing he 
does is rip off his shirt and start fighting you like he's waiting for 
Playgirl 500 A.D. to come shoot him for their centerfold. Oh, and nice 
Austin Powers gag there, Robert Zemeckis, covering Beowulf's mysterious 
cartoon man-bits with other people's arms, swords, andirons and other 
penis-shaped objects. That was funny.
Stay for the Credits and Count the Digital Animation People Who Are All 
Probably Really, Really Exhausted by Now: For example, I counted nearly 40 
names that worked on cloth and hair. That's it. Weeks and weeks of animating 
cloth and hair. Next time your boss makes you restock the plastic-cup lids 
for an hour, you think of that and count your blessings.
On 11/15/07, Keith Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"?  I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a 
little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called 
"Polar Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture 
images, simply looks a little--creepy to me.  One problem I have with so 
much standard CGI movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid 
flicks, is that the humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and 
body muscles not smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting 
better, true, but right now some of the characters look like walking 
corpses. Expressionless, herky-jerky walking corpses.  Some of the scenes 
I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different. Though better looking than "Polar 
Express", the characters still look stiff and dead to me.

Wonder why they didn't go with live action a

Re: Final Fantasy X-2 Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

Really getting better. Thanks for asking :)

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> > > wrote: Have you seen
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> like
> > > > "Dark Crystal", "Final Fantasy", and others where the characters 
> have
> > > > so many human characteristics and are almost human, but kind of 
> creep
> > > > me out.But then, look at how people respond positively to everything
> > > > from "ET" to the robot in "Short Circuit". Fascinating concept.
> > > >
> > > > And on top of everything else, I still like 2D animation, which (he
> > > > said for the eleventy-millionth time) i am saddened to see dying out
> > > > in the US
> > > >
> > > > -- Original message --
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> > > > There's a name for the phenomenon of hyperrealism being unrealistic:
> > > > The Uncanny Valley.
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> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley 
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> >  >
> > >  
> >  >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My wife wants to see it because of one of hte guys who was in 
> Robin of
> > > > Sherwood, and I wanna see it because of Nekkid Angelina and the
> > > > trailer for Cloverfield.
> > > >
> > > > JJ Mohareb
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 15, 2007 11:36 PM, > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but
> > > frankly a
> > > > > little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The
> > so-called
> > > > > "Polar Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life
> > capture
> > > > > images, simply looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I 
> have with
> > > > so much
> > > > > standard CGI movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid
> > > > flicks, is
> > > > > that the humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and
> > body
> > > > > muscles not smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's
> > getting
> > > > > better, true, but right now some of the characters look like 
> walking
> > > > > corpses. Some of the scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no
> > different.
> > > > > Though better looking than "Polar Express", the characters still
> > > > look stiff
> > > > > and dead to me.

> > > > > Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special
> > > effects like
> > > > > LOTR, or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and 
> "300"?
> > > > >
> > > > > And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell
> > > > > "I--am--Beowulf!" I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!"
> > > and i
> > > > > laugh.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I saw that in Mexico. It was very surreal too, but I liked it much better.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> no, i'm thinking of the film made in the same vein that came out a few years 
> ago. It was "Waking Life", starring Ethan Hawke. The same director--Richard 
> Linklater--did both films.
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Actually it stars Keannu Reeves...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i never saw it, or that other film made with the 
> same effects. can' remember the same, but it's the one staring Ethan Hawke. 
> how were they?
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: Daryle 
>
> Now that wasn¡¯t right. You know I have to see every PKD story done on
> screen. I may not have LIKED A Scanner Darkly, but I saw it.
>
> On 11/16/07 11:07 AM, "Astromancer" wrote:
>
>   
>>
>>
>> So I gather you didn't see 'A Scanner Darkly'...
>>
>> Daryle >
>> wrote: Nah. I©öm gonna pass on Beowulf. I feel like, either do a live
>> action movie
>> with big name stars, or do an animated feature. It worked at first because
>> they were using big name actors to get people in to see animated features.
>> But now people already know what to expect so they come. If I wanna see a
>> movie with Angelina Jolie in it, I wanna see Angelina Jolie. Not a
>> rendition, not an interpretation...I wanna see HER. Otherwise give the gig
>> to Cree Summer. It©ös time for one of these CGI or animated movies to star
>> Cree Summer. 
>>
>> On 11/15/07 11:36 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "
>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>   


 Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a
 little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called
 
>>> "Polar
>>>   
 Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture images,
 
>>> simply
>>>   
 looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with so much standard CGI
 movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid flicks, is that the
 humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body muscles not
 smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting better, true, but
 right now some of the characters look like walking corpses. Some of the
 scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different. Though better looking
 
>>> than
>>>   
 "Polar Express", the characters still look stiff and dead to me.
 Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like
 
>>> LOTR,
>>>   
 or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?

 And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell
 
>>> "I--am--Beowulf!"
>>>   
 I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i laugh.
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[KeithBJohnson]

no, i'm thinking of the film made in the same vein that came out a few years 
ago. It was "Waking Life", starring Ethan Hawke. The same director--Richard 
Linklater--did both films.

-- Original message -- 
From: Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Actually it stars Keannu Reeves...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i never saw it, or that other film made with the same 
effects. can' remember the same, but it's the one staring Ethan Hawke. how were 
they?

-- Original message -- 
From: Daryle 

Now that wasn¡¯t right. You know I have to see every PKD story done on
screen. I may not have LIKED A Scanner Darkly, but I saw it.

On 11/16/07 11:07 AM, "Astromancer" wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> So I gather you didn't see 'A Scanner Darkly'...
> 
> Daryle >
> wrote: Nah. I©öm gonna pass on Beowulf. I feel like, either do a live
> action movie
> with big name stars, or do an animated feature. It worked at first because
> they were using big name actors to get people in to see animated features.
> But now people already know what to expect so they come. If I wanna see a
> movie with Angelina Jolie in it, I wanna see Angelina Jolie. Not a
> rendition, not an interpretation...I wanna see HER. Otherwise give the gig
> to Cree Summer. It©ös time for one of these CGI or animated movies to star
> Cree Summer. 
> 
> On 11/15/07 11:36 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "
> > wrote:
> 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a
>> > little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called
>> "Polar
>> > Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture images,
>> simply
>> > looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with so much standard CGI
>> > movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid flicks, is that the
>> > humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body muscles not
>> > smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting better, true, but
>> > right now some of the characters look like walking corpses. Some of the
>> > scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different. Though better looking
>> than
>> > "Polar Express", the characters still look stiff and dead to me.
>> > Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like
>> LOTR,
>> > or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
>> > 
>> > And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell
>> "I--am--Beowulf!"
>> > I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i laugh.
> 
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2 Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[Astromancer]

Thanks...How are you? I hardly get to talk to you nowadays...

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
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Final Fantasy VII - Advent Children
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Astromancer wrote:
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> Sequel to Final Fantasy??? I didn't know they made any more...Were 
> they straight-to-video?
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote: Have you seen 
> any of the sequels?
>
> Astromancer wrote:
> >
> > So did I, Tracey...
> >
> > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> > > wrote: I know everybody
> > hated final fantasy, but I liked it.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
>  wrote:
> > >
> > > yeah, i think i or someone else posted about the Uncanny Valley a few
> > > months ago. it's dead on in a lot of ways. I can remember movies like
> > > "Dark Crystal", "Final Fantasy", and others where the characters have
> > > so many human characteristics and are almost human, but kind of creep
> > > me out.But then, look at how people respond positively to everything
> > > from "ET" to the robot in "Short Circuit". Fascinating concept.
> > >
> > > And on top of everything else, I still like 2D animation, which (he
> > > said for the eleventy-millionth time) i am saddened to see dying out
> > > in the US
> > >
> > > -- Original message --
> > > From: "Justin Mohareb" > >
> > > There's a name for the phenomenon of hyperrealism being unrealistic:
> > > The Uncanny Valley.
> > >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley 
> 
> >  >
> > >
> > >
> > > My wife wants to see it because of one of hte guys who was in Robin of
> > > Sherwood, and I wanna see it because of Nekkid Angelina and the
> > > trailer for Cloverfield.
> > >
> > > JJ Mohareb
> > >
> > > On Nov 15, 2007 11:36 PM, > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but
> > frankly a
> > > > little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The 
> so-called
> > > > "Polar Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life 
> capture
> > > > images, simply looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with
> > > so much
> > > > standard CGI movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid
> > > flicks, is
> > > > that the humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and 
> body
> > > > muscles not smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's 
> getting
> > > > better, true, but right now some of the characters look like walking
> > > > corpses. Some of the scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no 
> different.
> > > > Though better looking than "Polar Express", the characters still
> > > look stiff
> > > > and dead to me.
> > > > Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special
> > effects like
> > > > LOTR, or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
> > > >
> > > > And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell
> > > > "I--am--Beowulf!" I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!"
> > and i
> > > > laugh.
> > > >
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Final Fantasy X-2 Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I'm not sure what these are. they seem related but disconnected. Since I 
never played the video game I'm . I plan on renting them at some point.
*Final Fantasy Unlimited - Series (5 Disks)
Final Fantasy V: Legend of the Crystals
Final Fantasy VII - Advent Children
*Fainaru fantajî X -subtitled
Final Fantasy X-2

Astromancer wrote:
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> Sequel to Final Fantasy??? I didn't know they made any more...Were 
> they straight-to-video?
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote: Have you seen 
> any of the sequels?
>
> Astromancer wrote:
> >
> > So did I, Tracey...
> >
> > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> > > wrote: I know everybody
> > hated final fantasy, but I liked it.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
>  wrote:
> > >
> > > yeah, i think i or someone else posted about the Uncanny Valley a few
> > > months ago. it's dead on in a lot of ways. I can remember movies like
> > > "Dark Crystal", "Final Fantasy", and others where the characters have
> > > so many human characteristics and are almost human, but kind of creep
> > > me out.But then, look at how people respond positively to everything
> > > from "ET" to the robot in "Short Circuit". Fascinating concept.
> > >
> > > And on top of everything else, I still like 2D animation, which (he
> > > said for the eleventy-millionth time) i am saddened to see dying out
> > > in the US
> > >
> > > -- Original message --
> > > From: "Justin Mohareb" > >
> > > There's a name for the phenomenon of hyperrealism being unrealistic:
> > > The Uncanny Valley.
> > >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley 
> 
> >  >
> > >
> > >
> > > My wife wants to see it because of one of hte guys who was in Robin of
> > > Sherwood, and I wanna see it because of Nekkid Angelina and the
> > > trailer for Cloverfield.
> > >
> > > JJ Mohareb
> > >
> > > On Nov 15, 2007 11:36 PM, > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but
> > frankly a
> > > > little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The 
> so-called
> > > > "Polar Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life 
> capture
> > > > images, simply looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with
> > > so much
> > > > standard CGI movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid
> > > flicks, is
> > > > that the humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and 
> body
> > > > muscles not smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's 
> getting
> > > > better, true, but right now some of the characters look like walking
> > > > corpses. Some of the scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no 
> different.
> > > > Though better looking than "Polar Express", the characters still
> > > look stiff
> > > > and dead to me.
> > > > Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special
> > effects like
> > > > LOTR, or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
> > > >
> > > > And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell
> > > > "I--am--Beowulf!" I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!"
> > and i
> > > > laugh.
> > > >
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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[Astromancer]

Sequel to Final Fantasy??? I didn't know they made any more...Were they 
straight-to-video?

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
Have you seen any of the sequels?

Astromancer wrote:
>
> So did I, Tracey...
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote: I know everybody 
> hated final fantasy, but I liked it.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
> >
> > yeah, i think i or someone else posted about the Uncanny Valley a few
> > months ago. it's dead on in a lot of ways. I can remember movies like
> > "Dark Crystal", "Final Fantasy", and others where the characters have
> > so many human characteristics and are almost human, but kind of creep
> > me out.But then, look at how people respond positively to everything
> > from "ET" to the robot in "Short Circuit". Fascinating concept.
> >
> > And on top of everything else, I still like 2D animation, which (he
> > said for the eleventy-millionth time) i am saddened to see dying out
> > in the US
> >
> > -- Original message --
> > From: "Justin Mohareb" > >
> > There's a name for the phenomenon of hyperrealism being unrealistic:
> > The Uncanny Valley.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley 
> 
> >
> >
> > My wife wants to see it because of one of hte guys who was in Robin of
> > Sherwood, and I wanna see it because of Nekkid Angelina and the
> > trailer for Cloverfield.
> >
> > JJ Mohareb
> >
> > On Nov 15, 2007 11:36 PM, > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but 
> frankly a
> > > little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called
> > > "Polar Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture
> > > images, simply looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with
> > so much
> > > standard CGI movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid
> > flicks, is
> > > that the humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body
> > > muscles not smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting
> > > better, true, but right now some of the characters look like walking
> > > corpses. Some of the scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different.
> > > Though better looking than "Polar Express", the characters still
> > look stiff
> > > and dead to me.
> > > Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special 
> effects like
> > > LOTR, or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
> > >
> > > And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell
> > > "I--am--Beowulf!" I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" 
> and i
> > > laugh.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

Have you seen any of the sequels?

Astromancer wrote:
>
> So did I, Tracey...
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote: I know everybody 
> hated final fantasy, but I liked it.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
> >
> > yeah, i think i or someone else posted about the Uncanny Valley a few
> > months ago. it's dead on in a lot of ways. I can remember movies like
> > "Dark Crystal", "Final Fantasy", and others where the characters have
> > so many human characteristics and are almost human, but kind of creep
> > me out.But then, look at how people respond positively to everything
> > from "ET" to the robot in "Short Circuit". Fascinating concept.
> >
> > And on top of everything else, I still like 2D animation, which (he
> > said for the eleventy-millionth time) i am saddened to see dying out
> > in the US
> >
> > -- Original message --
> > From: "Justin Mohareb" > >
> > There's a name for the phenomenon of hyperrealism being unrealistic:
> > The Uncanny Valley.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley 
> 
> >
> >
> > My wife wants to see it because of one of hte guys who was in Robin of
> > Sherwood, and I wanna see it because of Nekkid Angelina and the
> > trailer for Cloverfield.
> >
> > JJ Mohareb
> >
> > On Nov 15, 2007 11:36 PM, > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but 
> frankly a
> > > little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called
> > > "Polar Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture
> > > images, simply looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with
> > so much
> > > standard CGI movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid
> > flicks, is
> > > that the humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body
> > > muscles not smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting
> > > better, true, but right now some of the characters look like walking
> > > corpses. Some of the scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different.
> > > Though better looking than "Polar Express", the characters still
> > look stiff
> > > and dead to me.
> > > Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special 
> effects like
> > > LOTR, or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
> > >
> > > And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell
> > > "I--am--Beowulf!" I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" 
> and i
> > > laugh.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[Astromancer]

So did I, Tracey...

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I 
know everybody hated final fantasy, but I liked it. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> yeah, i think i or someone else posted about the Uncanny Valley a few 
> months ago. it's dead on in a lot of ways. I can remember movies like 
> "Dark Crystal", "Final Fantasy", and others where the characters have 
> so many human characteristics and are almost human, but kind of creep 
> me out.But then, look at how people respond positively to everything 
> from "ET" to the robot in "Short Circuit". Fascinating concept.
>
> And on top of everything else, I still like 2D animation, which (he 
> said for the eleventy-millionth time) i am saddened to see dying out 
> in the US
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Justin Mohareb" > >
> There's a name for the phenomenon of hyperrealism being unrealistic:
> The Uncanny Valley.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley 
> 
>
> My wife wants to see it because of one of hte guys who was in Robin of
> Sherwood, and I wanna see it because of Nekkid Angelina and the
> trailer for Cloverfield.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Nov 15, 2007 11:36 PM, > > wrote:
> >
> > Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a
> > little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called
> > "Polar Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture
> > images, simply looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with 
> so much
> > standard CGI movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid 
> flicks, is
> > that the humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body
> > muscles not smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting
> > better, true, but right now some of the characters look like walking
> > corpses. Some of the scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different.
> > Though better looking than "Polar Express", the characters still 
> look stiff
> > and dead to me.
> > Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like
> > LOTR, or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
> >
> > And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell
> > "I--am--Beowulf!" I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i
> > laugh.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[Astromancer]

Actually it stars Keannu Reeves...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  i never saw it, or that other film made with the same 
effects. can' remember the same, but it's the one staring Ethan Hawke. how were 
they?

-- Original message -- 
From: Daryle 

Now that wasn¡¯t right. You know I have to see every PKD story done on
screen. I may not have LIKED A Scanner Darkly, but I saw it.

On 11/16/07 11:07 AM, "Astromancer" wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> So I gather you didn't see 'A Scanner Darkly'...
> 
> Daryle >
> wrote: Nah. I©öm gonna pass on Beowulf. I feel like, either do a live
> action movie
> with big name stars, or do an animated feature. It worked at first because
> they were using big name actors to get people in to see animated features.
> But now people already know what to expect so they come. If I wanna see a
> movie with Angelina Jolie in it, I wanna see Angelina Jolie. Not a
> rendition, not an interpretation...I wanna see HER. Otherwise give the gig
> to Cree Summer. It©ös time for one of these CGI or animated movies to star
> Cree Summer. 
> 
> On 11/15/07 11:36 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "
> > wrote:
> 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a
>> > little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called
>> "Polar
>> > Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture images,
>> simply
>> > looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with so much standard CGI
>> > movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid flicks, is that the
>> > humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body muscles not
>> > smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting better, true, but
>> > right now some of the characters look like walking corpses. Some of the
>> > scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different. Though better looking
>> than
>> > "Polar Express", the characters still look stiff and dead to me.
>> > Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like
>> LOTR,
>> > or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
>> > 
>> > And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell
>> "I--am--Beowulf!"
>> > I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i laugh.
> 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[KeithBJohnson]

i didn't hate it. i enjoyed much of it, just not a fan of the almost-human CGI 
characters. 

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> I know everybody hated final fantasy, but I liked it. 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> > 
> > yeah, i think i or someone else posted about the Uncanny Valley a few 
> > months ago. it's dead on in a lot of ways. I can remember movies like 
> > "Dark Crystal", "Final Fantasy", and others where the characters have 
> > so many human characteristics and are almost human, but kind of creep 
> > me out.But then, look at how people respond positively to everything 
> > from "ET" to the robot in "Short Circuit". Fascinating concept. 
> > 
> > And on top of everything else, I still like 2D animation, which (he 
> > said for the eleventy-millionth time) i am saddened to see dying out 
> > in the US 
> > 
> > -- Original message -- 
> > From: "Justin Mohareb" > > > 
> > There's a name for the phenomenon of hyperrealism being unrealistic: 
> > The Uncanny Valley. 
> > 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley 
> > 
> > 
> > My wife wants to see it because of one of hte guys who was in Robin of 
> > Sherwood, and I wanna see it because of Nekkid Angelina and the 
> > trailer for Cloverfield. 
> > 
> > JJ Mohareb 
> > 
> > On Nov 15, 2007 11:36 PM, > > > wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a 
> > > little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called 
> > > "Polar Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture 
> > > images, simply looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with 
> > so much 
> > > standard CGI movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid 
> > flicks, is 
> > > that the humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body 
> > > muscles not smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting 
> > > better, true, but right now some of the characters look like walking 
> > > corpses. Some of the scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different. 
> > > Though better looking than "Polar Express", the characters still 
> > look stiff 
> > > and dead to me. 
> > > Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like 
> > > LOTR, or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"? 
> > > 
> > > And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell 
> > > "I--am--Beowulf!" I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i 
> > > laugh. 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I know everybody hated final fantasy, but I liked it. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> yeah, i think i or someone else posted about the Uncanny Valley a few 
> months ago. it's dead on in a lot of ways. I can remember movies like 
> "Dark Crystal", "Final Fantasy", and others where the characters have 
> so many human characteristics and are almost human, but kind of creep 
> me out.But then, look at how people respond positively to everything 
> from "ET" to the robot in "Short Circuit". Fascinating concept.
>
> And on top of everything else, I still like 2D animation, which (he 
> said for the eleventy-millionth time) i am saddened to see dying out 
> in the US
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >
> There's a name for the phenomenon of hyperrealism being unrealistic:
> The Uncanny Valley.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley 
> 
>
> My wife wants to see it because of one of hte guys who was in Robin of
> Sherwood, and I wanna see it because of Nekkid Angelina and the
> trailer for Cloverfield.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Nov 15, 2007 11:36 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a
> > little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called
> > "Polar Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture
> > images, simply looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with 
> so much
> > standard CGI movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid 
> flicks, is
> > that the humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body
> > muscles not smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting
> > better, true, but right now some of the characters look like walking
> > corpses. Some of the scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different.
> > Though better looking than "Polar Express", the characters still 
> look stiff
> > and dead to me.
> > Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like
> > LOTR, or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
> >
> > And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell
> > "I--am--Beowulf!" I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i
> > laugh.
> >
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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[KeithBJohnson]

yeah, i think i or someone else posted about the Uncanny Valley a few months 
ago. it's dead on in a lot of ways. I can remember movies like "Dark Crystal", 
"Final Fantasy", and others where the characters have so many human 
characteristics and are almost human, but kind of creep me out.But then, look 
at how people respond positively to everything from "ET" to the robot in "Short 
Circuit". Fascinating concept.

And on top of everything else, I still like 2D animation, which (he said for 
the eleventy-millionth time) i am saddened to see dying out in the US

-- Original message -- 
From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
There's a name for the phenomenon of hyperrealism being unrealistic:
The Uncanny Valley.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

My wife wants to see it because of one of hte guys who was in Robin of
Sherwood, and I wanna see it because of Nekkid Angelina and the
trailer for Cloverfield.

JJ Mohareb

On Nov 15, 2007 11:36 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a
> little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called
> "Polar Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture
> images, simply looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with so much
> standard CGI movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid flicks, is
> that the humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body
> muscles not smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting
> better, true, but right now some of the characters look like walking
> corpses. Some of the scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different.
> Though better looking than "Polar Express", the characters still look stiff
> and dead to me.
> Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like
> LOTR, or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
>
> And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell
> "I--am--Beowulf!" I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i
> laugh.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[KeithBJohnson]

Lots of talk about "Cloverfield". Ever searched for a trailer online?

-- Original message -- 
From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
There's a name for the phenomenon of hyperrealism being unrealistic:
The Uncanny Valley.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

My wife wants to see it because of one of hte guys who was in Robin of
Sherwood, and I wanna see it because of Nekkid Angelina and the
trailer for Cloverfield.

JJ Mohareb

On Nov 15, 2007 11:36 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a
> little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called
> "Polar Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture
> images, simply looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with so much
> standard CGI movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid flicks, is
> that the humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body
> muscles not smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting
> better, true, but right now some of the characters look like walking
> corpses. Some of the scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different.
> Though better looking than "Polar Express", the characters still look stiff
> and dead to me.
> Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like
> LOTR, or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
>
> And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell
> "I--am--Beowulf!" I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i
> laugh.
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[KeithBJohnson]

what's "Black Lagoon 002"?

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Keith, I'm with you on the leery-of-effects angle. I really can't see why 
anyone would bother to make such effects in the name of realism. And, being a 
semi-recent convert to anime, I really don't feel moved by the concept of 
motion-capture. I think I'm going to hold onto the price of the ticket, and put 
it toward "Black Lagoon 002".

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the 
story, but frankly a little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. 
The so-called "Polar Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life 
capture images, simply looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with so 
much standard CGI movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid flicks, 
is that the humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body 
muscles not smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting better, 
true, but right now some of the characters look like walking corpses. Some of 
the scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different. Though better looking 
than "Polar Express", the characters still look stiff and dead to me. 
Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like LOTR, 
or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?

And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell "I--am--Beowulf!" I 
keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i laugh.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[KeithBJohnson]

i never saw it, or that other film made with the same effects. can' remember 
the same, but it's the one staring Ethan Hawke. how were they?

-- Original message -- 
From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Now that wasn¡¯t right. You know I have to see every PKD story done on
screen. I may not have LIKED A Scanner Darkly, but I saw it.

On 11/16/07 11:07 AM, "Astromancer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> So I gather you didn't see 'A Scanner Darkly'...
> 
> Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >
> wrote: Nah. I©öm gonna pass on Beowulf. I feel like, either do a live
> action movie
> with big name stars, or do an animated feature. It worked at first because
> they were using big name actors to get people in to see animated features.
> But now people already know what to expect so they come. If I wanna see a
> movie with Angelina Jolie in it, I wanna see Angelina Jolie. Not a
> rendition, not an interpretation...I wanna see HER. Otherwise give the gig
> to Cree Summer. It©ös time for one of these CGI or animated movies to star
> Cree Summer. 
> 
> On 11/15/07 11:36 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  "
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  > wrote:
> 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a
>> > little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called
>> "Polar
>> > Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture images,
>> simply
>> > looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with so much standard CGI
>> > movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid flicks, is that the
>> > humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body muscles not
>> > smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting better, true, but
>> > right now some of the characters look like walking corpses. Some of the
>> > scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different. Though better looking
>> than
>> > "Polar Express", the characters still look stiff and dead to me.
>> > Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like
>> LOTR,
>> > or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
>> > 
>> > And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell
>> "I--am--Beowulf!"
>> > I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i laugh.
> 
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[scifinoir2] Gonna See "Beowulf"?

[KeithBJohnson]

A friend sent the review below. i might see, not sure. The "faces like creepy" 
thing is my main problem, and lame dialogue added to that: don't know. It's 
again why i prefer either straight 2D animation, CGI animation that's not 
trying to be completely real (like "The Incredibles", which i love), or live 
action/FX mixtures like "300" and "Sin City".

Oh: I must admit i've never completely read "Beowulf". By the time I reached 
high school, a lot of the old traditional reading curriculum my older brothers 
had taken had been eliminated. I remember my brothers (ten and six years older 
than me) discussing  "The Faerie Queen", "Catcher in the Rye", "The Canterbury 
Tales", and many other classics they had to read. But when I got to high 
school, many of those--and more--were no longer required reading. Some were 
shifted to advanced classes, but most had been dropped. I'm not quite sure if 
it was just a decline in the quality of my high school, a growth in 
conservatism that made fare like this uncomfortable to the powers that be, or a 
combination.

-- Original message -- 
From: "Kerrance Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Here is the review from Movies.com:

OUR REVIEW
by Dave White 

Who's in It: Ray Winstone, Angelina Jolie, Anthony Hopkins, Robin Wright Penn, 
Alison Lohman, Crispin Glover 
The Basics: I shouldn't even have to tell you the story. You were supposed to 
have not blown it off when it was assigned in high school. But here's how it 
goes down: Beowulf battles the big giant monster Grendel. Kills Grendel (that's 
not a spoiler). Then he sort of "compromises" himself with Grendel's mother, 
who's not nearly as monstrous-looking as her son. Anyway, because Beowulf was 
thinking with his junk, the curse on the kingdom continues. This is why women 
should run all countries. 
What's the Deal? This movie is 98 percent awesome (I'll get to the 2 percent 
lame in a minute) because the 3-D and the animation are that mind-blowing. 
Stuff comes at your face, from behind you and from below you. It's enough to 
make you sort of queasy if you're not ready for it. Anyway, the fight scenes — 
and there are plenty of them — are as exciting as anything you've seen in a 
movie all year. Who cares if it's all motion-capture and digital effects? It's 
not like you can do a live-action movie where someone fights a real sea 
monster. You're lucky you live right now instead of a hundred years ago when 
they had polio and no 3-D. 
That Other 2 Percent: First, there's the matter of the dialogue, which sounds 
like people at a Renaissance fair drinking Pepsi and shouting, "Ay, wenches! 
This be fine mead!" But that's okay. It's not a documentary. The bigger problem 
is that they still haven't quite gotten human faces down yet in this 
motion-capture-animation stuff. Most of the time, Beowulf looks good, 
especially when he ages, but the secondary characters, and almost all the women 
save for Jolie (who sort of resembles a cartoon character in real life anyway) 
have blank expressionless doll faces, and it's sort of creepy. 
How It's Like 300: Beowulf enjoys his own nudity. He fights naked. He lounges 
naked. He likes to recline on stone steps in the nude while having casual chats 
with his warrior comrades. Make him mad, and the first thing he does is rip off 
his shirt and start fighting you like he's waiting for Playgirl 500 A.D. to 
come shoot him for their centerfold. Oh, and nice Austin Powers gag there, 
Robert Zemeckis, covering Beowulf's mysterious cartoon man-bits with other 
people's arms, swords, andirons and other penis-shaped objects. That was funny. 
Stay for the Credits and Count the Digital Animation People Who Are All 
Probably Really, Really Exhausted by Now: For example, I counted nearly 40 
names that worked on cloth and hair. That's it. Weeks and weeks of animating 
cloth and hair. Next time your boss makes you restock the plastic-cup lids for 
an hour, you think of that and count your blessings.   
On 11/15/07, Keith Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"?  I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a little 
leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called "Polar Express" 
look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture images, simply looks a 
little--creepy to me.  One problem I have with so much standard CGI movies like 
"Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid flicks, is that the humans often don't 
look real. They're stiff, facial and body muscles not smoothly or realistically 
drawn. The technology's getting better, true, but right now some of the 
characters look like walking corpses. Expressionless, herky-jerky walking 
corpses.  Some of the scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different. Though 
better looking than "Polar Express", the characters still look stiff and dead 
to me. 

Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like LOTR, 
or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300

Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[KeithBJohnson]

Cree Summer gets a lot of voice work in animated stuff on TV. not sure if she's 
voiced any animated films at the movies or any CGI stuff. Was she the voice of 
the young Sister on the cartoon about the young spies? What was that:, 
"Codename: KIDS" or something like that?

-- Original message -- 
From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Nah. I¹m gonna pass on Beowulf. I feel like, either do a live action movie
with big name stars, or do an animated feature. It worked at first because
they were using big name actors to get people in to see animated features.
But now people already know what to expect so they come. If I wanna see a
movie with Angelina Jolie in it, I wanna see Angelina Jolie. Not a
rendition, not an interpretation...I wanna see HER. Otherwise give the gig
to Cree Summer. It¹s time for one of these CGI or animated movies to star
Cree Summer. 

On 11/15/07 11:36 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a
> little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called "Polar
> Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture images, simply
> looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with so much standard CGI
> movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid flicks, is that the
> humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body muscles not
> smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting better, true, but
> right now some of the characters look like walking corpses. Some of the
> scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different. Though better looking than
> "Polar Express", the characters still look stiff and dead to me.
> Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like LOTR,
> or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
> 
> And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell "I--am--Beowulf!"
> I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i laugh.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[Justin Mohareb]

There's a name for the phenomenon  of hyperrealism being unrealistic:
The Uncanny Valley.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

My wife wants to see it because of one of hte guys who was in Robin of
Sherwood, and I wanna see it because of Nekkid Angelina and the
trailer for Cloverfield.

JJ Mohareb

On Nov 15, 2007 11:36 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a
> little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called
> "Polar Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture
> images, simply looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with so much
> standard CGI movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid flicks, is
> that the humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body
> muscles not smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting
> better, true, but right now some of the characters look like walking
> corpses. Some of the scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different.
> Though better looking than "Polar Express", the characters still look stiff
> and dead to me.
>  Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like
> LOTR, or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
>
>  And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell
> "I--am--Beowulf!" I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i
> laugh.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I liked the format, but I did not really enjoy it

Martin wrote:
>
> A friend of mine from Canada has said good things about the movie. I 
> still haven't gotten around to it.
>
> Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Yet...
>
> Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
> Now that wasn¡¯t right. You know I have to see every PKD story done on
> screen. I may not have LIKED A Scanner Darkly, but I saw it.
>
> On 11/16/07 11:07 AM, "Astromancer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > So I gather you didn't see 'A Scanner Darkly'...
> >
> > Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>  
>  >
> > wrote: Nah. I©öm gonna pass on Beowulf. I feel like, either do a live
> > action movie
> > with big name stars, or do an animated feature. It worked at first 
> because
> > they were using big name actors to get people in to see animated 
> features.
> > But now people already know what to expect so they come. If I wanna 
> see a
> > movie with Angelina Jolie in it, I wanna see Angelina Jolie. Not a
> > rendition, not an interpretation...I wanna see HER. Otherwise give 
> the gig
> > to Cree Summer. It©ös time for one of these CGI or animated movies 
> to star
> > Cree Summer.
> >
> > On 11/15/07 11:36 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> >  "
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
>  > wrote:
> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but 
> frankly a
> >> > little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The 
> so-called
> >> "Polar
> >> > Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture 
> images,
> >> simply
> >> > looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with so much 
> standard CGI
> >> > movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid flicks, is 
> that the
> >> > humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body 
> muscles not
> >> > smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting better, 
> true, but
> >> > right now some of the characters look like walking corpses. Some 
> of the
> >> > scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different. Though better 
> looking
> >> than
> >> > "Polar Express", the characters still look stiff and dead to me.
> >> > Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special 
> effects like
> >> LOTR,
> >> > or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
> >> >
> >> > And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell
> >> "I--am--Beowulf!"
> >> > I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i laugh.
> >
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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[Martin]

Keith, I'm with you on the leery-of-effects angle. I really can't see why 
anyone would bother to make such effects in the name of realism. And, being a 
semi-recent convert to anime, I really don't feel moved by the concept of 
motion-capture. I think I'm going to hold onto the price of the ticket, and put 
it toward "Black Lagoon 002".

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued 
by the story, but frankly a little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is 
using. The so-called "Polar Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real 
life capture images, simply looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have 
with so much standard CGI movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid 
flicks, is that the humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and 
body muscles not smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting 
better, true, but right now some of the characters look like walking corpses. 
Some of the scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different. Though better 
looking than "Polar Express", the characters still look stiff and dead to me. 
Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like LOTR, 
or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?

And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell "I--am--Beowulf!" I 
keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i laugh.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[Martin]

Cree...

Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Nah. I¹m gonna pass on Beowulf. I 
feel like, either do a live action movie
with big name stars, or do an animated feature. It worked at first because
they were using big name actors to get people in to see animated features.
But now people already know what to expect so they come. If I wanna see a
movie with Angelina Jolie in it, I wanna see Angelina Jolie. Not a
rendition, not an interpretation...I wanna see HER. Otherwise give the gig
to Cree Summer. It¹s time for one of these CGI or animated movies to star
Cree Summer. 

On 11/15/07 11:36 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a
> little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called "Polar
> Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture images, simply
> looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with so much standard CGI
> movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid flicks, is that the
> humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body muscles not
> smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting better, true, but
> right now some of the characters look like walking corpses. Some of the
> scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different. Though better looking than
> "Polar Express", the characters still look stiff and dead to me.
> Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like LOTR,
> or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
> 
> And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell "I--am--Beowulf!"
> I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i laugh.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[Martin]

A friend of mine from Canada has said good things about the movie. I still 
haven't gotten around to it.

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Yet...

Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Now that wasn¡¯t right. You know I have to see every PKD story done on
screen. I may not have LIKED A Scanner Darkly, but I saw it.

On 11/16/07 11:07 AM, "Astromancer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> So I gather you didn't see 'A Scanner Darkly'...
> 
> Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >
> wrote: Nah. I©öm gonna pass on Beowulf. I feel like, either do a live
> action movie
> with big name stars, or do an animated feature. It worked at first because
> they were using big name actors to get people in to see animated features.
> But now people already know what to expect so they come. If I wanna see a
> movie with Angelina Jolie in it, I wanna see Angelina Jolie. Not a
> rendition, not an interpretation...I wanna see HER. Otherwise give the gig
> to Cree Summer. It©ös time for one of these CGI or animated movies to star
> Cree Summer. 
> 
> On 11/15/07 11:36 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  "
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  > wrote:
> 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a
>> > little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called
>> "Polar
>> > Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture images,
>> simply
>> > looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with so much standard CGI
>> > movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid flicks, is that the
>> > humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body muscles not
>> > smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting better, true, but
>> > right now some of the characters look like walking corpses. Some of the
>> > scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different. Though better looking
>> than
>> > "Polar Express", the characters still look stiff and dead to me.
>> > Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like
>> LOTR,
>> > or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
>> > 
>> > And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell
>> "I--am--Beowulf!"
>> > I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i laugh.
> 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[Astromancer]

Yet...

Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
Now that wasn¡¯t right. You know I have to see every PKD story done on
screen. I may not have LIKED A Scanner Darkly, but I saw it.

On 11/16/07 11:07 AM, "Astromancer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> So I gather you didn't see 'A Scanner Darkly'...
> 
> Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >
> wrote: Nah. I©öm gonna pass on Beowulf. I feel like, either do a live
> action movie
> with big name stars, or do an animated feature. It worked at first because
> they were using big name actors to get people in to see animated features.
> But now people already know what to expect so they come. If I wanna see a
> movie with Angelina Jolie in it, I wanna see Angelina Jolie. Not a
> rendition, not an interpretation...I wanna see HER. Otherwise give the gig
> to Cree Summer. It©ös time for one of these CGI or animated movies to star
> Cree Summer. 
> 
> On 11/15/07 11:36 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  "
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  > wrote:
> 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a
>> > little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called
>> "Polar
>> > Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture images,
>> simply
>> > looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with so much standard CGI
>> > movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid flicks, is that the
>> > humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body muscles not
>> > smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting better, true, but
>> > right now some of the characters look like walking corpses. Some of the
>> > scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different. Though better looking
>> than
>> > "Polar Express", the characters still look stiff and dead to me.
>> > Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like
>> LOTR,
>> > or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
>> > 
>> > And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell
>> "I--am--Beowulf!"
>> > I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i laugh.
> 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[Daryle]

Now that wasn’t right. You know I have to see every PKD story done on
screen. I may not have LIKED A Scanner Darkly, but I saw it.


On 11/16/07 11:07 AM, "Astromancer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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>  
>  
> 
> So I gather you didn't see 'A Scanner Darkly'...
> 
> Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >
> wrote:  Nah. I¹m gonna pass on Beowulf. I feel like, either do a live
> action movie
> with big name stars, or do an animated feature. It worked at first because
> they were using big name actors to get people in to see animated features.
> But now people already know what to expect so they come. If I wanna see a
> movie with Angelina Jolie in it, I wanna see Angelina Jolie. Not a
> rendition, not an interpretation...I wanna see HER. Otherwise give the gig
> to Cree Summer. It¹s time for one of these CGI or animated movies to star
> Cree Summer. 
> 
> On 11/15/07 11:36 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  "
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  > wrote:
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>> > 
>> > 
>> > Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a
>> > little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called
>> "Polar
>> > Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture images,
>> simply
>> > looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with so much standard CGI
>> > movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid flicks, is that the
>> > humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body muscles not
>> > smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting better, true, but
>> > right now some of the characters look like walking corpses. Some of the
>> > scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different. Though better looking
>> than
>> > "Polar Express", the characters still look stiff and dead to me.
>> > Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like
>> LOTR,
>> > or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
>> > 
>> > And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell
>> "I--am--Beowulf!"
>> > I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i laugh.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[Astromancer]

So I gather you didn't see 'A Scanner Darkly'...

Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Nah. I¹m gonna pass on Beowulf. I 
feel like, either do a live action movie
with big name stars, or do an animated feature. It worked at first because
they were using big name actors to get people in to see animated features.
But now people already know what to expect so they come. If I wanna see a
movie with Angelina Jolie in it, I wanna see Angelina Jolie. Not a
rendition, not an interpretation...I wanna see HER. Otherwise give the gig
to Cree Summer. It¹s time for one of these CGI or animated movies to star
Cree Summer. 

On 11/15/07 11:36 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"? I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a
> little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called "Polar
> Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture images, simply
> looks a little--creepy to me. One problem I have with so much standard CGI
> movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid flicks, is that the
> humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body muscles not
> smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting better, true, but
> right now some of the characters look like walking corpses. Some of the
> scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different. Though better looking than
> "Polar Express", the characters still look stiff and dead to me.
> Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like LOTR,
> or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
> 
> And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell "I--am--Beowulf!"
> I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i laugh.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[Daryle]

Nah. I¹m gonna pass on Beowulf. I feel like, either do a live action movie
with big name stars, or do an animated feature. It worked at first because
they were using big name actors to  get  people in to see animated features.
But now people already know what to expect so  they come. If I wanna see a
movie with Angelina Jolie in it,  I wanna see Angelina Jolie. Not a
rendition, not an interpretation...I wanna see HER. Otherwise give the gig
to Cree Summer. It¹s time for one of these CGI or animated movies to  star
Cree Summer. 


On 11/15/07 11:36 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  
>  
>  
> 
> Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"?  I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a
> little leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called "Polar
> Express" look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture images, simply
> looks a little--creepy to me.  One problem I have with so much standard CGI
> movies like "Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid flicks, is that the
> humans often don't look real. They're stiff, facial and body muscles not
> smoothly or realistically drawn. The technology's getting better, true, but
> right now some of the characters look like walking corpses.  Some of the
> scenes I've seen from "Beowulf" are no different. Though better looking than
> "Polar Express", the characters still look stiff and dead to me.
> Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like LOTR,
> or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?
> 
> And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell "I--am--Beowulf!"
> I keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i laugh.



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[scifinoir2] Gonna see "Beowulf"?

[KeithBJohnson]

Anyone plan to see "Beowulf"?  I'm intrigued by the story, but frankly a little 
leery of the visual technology Zemeckis is using. The so-called "Polar Express" 
look, layering CGI-like effects over real life capture images, simply looks a 
little--creepy to me.  One problem I have with so much standard CGI movies like 
"Final Fantasy" or any of the myriad kid flicks, is that the humans often don't 
look real. They're stiff, facial and body muscles not smoothly or realistically 
drawn. The technology's getting better, true, but right now some of the 
characters look like walking corpses.  Some of the scenes I've seen from 
"Beowulf" are no different. Though better looking than "Polar Express", the 
characters still look stiff and dead to me. 
Wonder why they didn't go with live action and then special effects like LOTR, 
or a live action/animation/CGI mix like "Sin City" and "300"?

And i gotta admit, everytime I see the title character yell "I--am--Beowulf!" I 
keep thinking of Leonidas' "This--is--Sparta!" and i laugh.

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