Re: [scifinoir2] Neuromancer

[KeithBJohnson]

yeah...(feeling old and despairing at the same time) that is so incredibly sad 
to me

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Keith, maybe it's what the youngsters today like. Short-attention spans seem to 
be de rigeur.

he makes some good points, but i've seen enough modern music video directors' 
work to stand by my apprehension. that he uses Michael Bay as an example really 
worries me: i hate Bay's directing style. If i didn't already know he directed 
music videos, i'd have guess. What I see from a lot of such directors is a lack 
of understanding of telling a story slowly, a penchant for too many quick cuts 
and over active closeup shots that force the action down my thorad, instead of 
slow pans and long shots that fill the screen. Look at some of the old classics 
like "Lawrence of Arabia" or "The Bridge on the River Kwai", and note the long 
pans and camera angles. Then contrast those to some of the stuff music video 
directors make. Of course, much of my feeling stems form the fact that i hate 
most modern music vidoes: I just don't get why you have to have about a dozen 
camera cuts in a dozen seconds, why the picture changes angles constantly, why 
the color hyperactively moves from black
and wh
ite to full color. 

That being said, I haven't seen any of this gentleman's work, movies or music 
videos

-- Original message -- 
From: Daryle 

I met Garrett Wang at LAX Airport yesterday morning. It was a very cool
conversation. If you¹re ever at a Trek con and see him there, by all means
strike up a conversation with him. He asked if I knew about the project.
Apparently he¹s being considered for one of the roles. As of yesterday, he
hadn¹t read the book So I described it for him. So if he ends up in the
movie I¹ll be pretty excited.

I am all for this project being made, and Khan¹s Britney Spears work is
completely irrelevant. He directed music videos, he didn¹t write the songs.
Steven Spielberg directed ³1941² and ³A.I². If any of us had done those
pictures, we¹d never work in Hollywood again. It¹s time for directors to
branch out and do challenging work. That¹s enough of Brett Ratner doing
everything.

There is apparently a lot of backlash about Khan getting the project, which
is rally interesting to me. Music video work is better than film school
sometimes. His commercial work is really good! I don¹t know if any director
would ever be ³good enough² to take this project on, and apparently Khan
agrees.

The following is from Joseph Khan¹s MySpace blog:

³Variety blew my cover over the weekend. This is the screenplay I've
been working on for the last two years.

As to the backlash.

There's going to be a backlash. You have to be nuts or stupid to take on
a monster like this. I knew what I was getting myself into. Stanley Kubrick
could take this on and he'd have a 14 year old in Iowa blogging on how wack
the cgi effects were in 2001, and then on the other hand a 45 year old child
molestor completely insistant nothing will ever look as good as the visuals
in his own head.

And they'd both hate Torque.

I could see how the combination of the Britney Spears director with
William Gibson is a controversial choice. But the problem is, the summation
of my career is not Britney Spears. I've done plenty of "cred" videos: Moby,
Chemical Brothers, Korn, U2, Muse to name a few. The headlines sound
attractively pessimistic to slap the successful pop example of my work to a
supposedly nihilistic work like Neuromancer. It really just demonstrates how
little most people know of the music video world and how it pertains to
filmmaking.

For instance, before David Fincher became the dark auteur that fanboys
salivate over, he made his name doingŠPaula Abdul videos. And hard core
Michael Bay with his rumbling guns and explosions madeŠMeatloaf videos, as
well asŠThe Divinyls "I Touch Myself." Those of you in the music video
business know the score and understand why this is.

I guess this is turning into a defense of myself, so I will defend
myself.

The other complaint lodged at me is that my movie Torque basically
sucked. It's either a sell out piece of commercial crap, or an incompetant
long form music video, or both, and it's a sure sign I'm clueless as a
filmmaker. And to all of this, I'll say: they're wrong.

Making your first movie under the Hollywood studio system is hard. It's
the hardest thing I've ever done. I'm telling you honestly with no
exaggeration: you have no clue what it's like to be put through that studio
grinder and retain any sort of authorship. The politics, the pressure, the
scapegoating, the interference, the pure physicality of an intense 70 day
shoot, the budget hysterics, the permeating sense of fear and negativity
from everyone. Torque is not 100% of what I wanted, but I'm proud of what it
is, because at the end of the day, after going through this studio machine
that blends movies together into mediocrity, it sp

Re: [scifinoir2] Neuromancer

[Martin]

Keith, maybe it's what the youngsters today like. Short-attention spans seem to 
be de rigeur.

  he makes some good points, but i've seen enough modern music video directors' 
work to stand by my apprehension. that he uses Michael Bay as an example really 
worries me: i hate Bay's directing style. If i didn't already know he directed 
music videos, i'd have guess. What I see from a lot of such directors is a lack 
of understanding of telling a story slowly, a penchant for too many quick cuts 
and over active closeup shots that force the action down my thorad, instead of 
slow pans and long shots that fill the screen. Look at some of the old classics 
like "Lawrence of Arabia" or "The Bridge on the River Kwai", and note the long 
pans and camera angles. Then contrast those to some of the stuff music video 
directors make. Of course, much of my feeling stems form the fact that i hate 
most modern music vidoes: I just don't get why you have to have about a dozen 
camera cuts in a dozen seconds, why the picture changes angles constantly, why 
the color hyperactively moves from black
 and wh
ite to full color. 

That being said, I haven't seen any of this gentleman's work, movies or music 
videos



-- Original message -- 
From: Daryle 

I met Garrett Wang at LAX Airport yesterday morning. It was a very cool
conversation. If you¹re ever at a Trek con and see him there, by all means
strike up a conversation with him. He asked if I knew about the project.
Apparently he¹s being considered for one of the roles. As of yesterday, he
hadn¹t read the book So I described it for him. So if he ends up in the
movie I¹ll be pretty excited.

I am all for this project being made, and Khan¹s Britney Spears work is
completely irrelevant. He directed music videos, he didn¹t write the songs.
Steven Spielberg directed ³1941² and ³A.I². If any of us had done those
pictures, we¹d never work in Hollywood again. It¹s time for directors to
branch out and do challenging work. That¹s enough of Brett Ratner doing
everything.

There is apparently a lot of backlash about Khan getting the project, which
is rally interesting to me. Music video work is better than film school
sometimes. His commercial work is really good! I don¹t know if any director
would ever be ³good enough² to take this project on, and apparently Khan
agrees.

The following is from Joseph Khan¹s MySpace blog:

³Variety blew my cover over the weekend. This is the screenplay I've
been working on for the last two years.

As to the backlash.

There's going to be a backlash. You have to be nuts or stupid to take on
a monster like this. I knew what I was getting myself into. Stanley Kubrick
could take this on and he'd have a 14 year old in Iowa blogging on how wack
the cgi effects were in 2001, and then on the other hand a 45 year old child
molestor completely insistant nothing will ever look as good as the visuals
in his own head.

And they'd both hate Torque.

I could see how the combination of the Britney Spears director with
William Gibson is a controversial choice. But the problem is, the summation
of my career is not Britney Spears. I've done plenty of "cred" videos: Moby,
Chemical Brothers, Korn, U2, Muse to name a few. The headlines sound
attractively pessimistic to slap the successful pop example of my work to a
supposedly nihilistic work like Neuromancer. It really just demonstrates how
little most people know of the music video world and how it pertains to
filmmaking.

For instance, before David Fincher became the dark auteur that fanboys
salivate over, he made his name doingŠPaula Abdul videos. And hard core
Michael Bay with his rumbling guns and explosions madeŠMeatloaf videos, as
well asŠThe Divinyls "I Touch Myself." Those of you in the music video
business know the score and understand why this is.

I guess this is turning into a defense of myself, so I will defend
myself.

The other complaint lodged at me is that my movie Torque basically
sucked. It's either a sell out piece of commercial crap, or an incompetant
long form music video, or both, and it's a sure sign I'm clueless as a
filmmaker. And to all of this, I'll say: they're wrong.

Making your first movie under the Hollywood studio system is hard. It's
the hardest thing I've ever done. I'm telling you honestly with no
exaggeration: you have no clue what it's like to be put through that studio
grinder and retain any sort of authorship. The politics, the pressure, the
scapegoating, the interference, the pure physicality of an intense 70 day
shoot, the budget hysterics, the permeating sense of fear and negativity
from everyone. Torque is not 100% of what I wanted, but I'm proud of what it
is, because at the end of the day, after going through this studio machine
that blends movies together into mediocrity, it split people. Some hated it,
others loved it. Some actually had both reactions at the same time. Whatever
it was, it wasn't safe. The ice cream on the cone couldn't be di

Re: [scifinoir2] Neuromancer

[KeithBJohnson]

he makes some good points, but i've seen enough modern music video directors' 
work to stand by my apprehension. that he uses Michael Bay as an example really 
worries me: i hate Bay's directing style. If i didn't already know he directed 
music videos, i'd have guess. What I see from a lot of such directors is a lack 
of understanding of telling a story slowly, a  penchant for too many quick cuts 
and over active closeup shots that force the action down my thorad, instead of 
slow pans and long shots that fill the screen.  Look at some of the old 
classics like "Lawrence of Arabia" or "The Bridge on the River Kwai", and note 
the long pans and camera angles. Then contrast those to some of the stuff music 
video directors make.  Of course, much of my feeling stems form the fact that i 
hate most modern music vidoes: I just don't get why you have to have about a 
dozen camera cuts in a dozen seconds, why the picture changes angles 
constantly, why the color hyperactively moves from black and wh
ite to full color. 

That being said, I haven't seen any of this gentleman's work, movies or music 
videos



-- Original message -- 
From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

I met Garrett Wang at LAX Airport yesterday morning. It was a very cool
conversation. If you¹re ever at a Trek con and see him there, by all means
strike up a conversation with him. He asked if I knew about the project.
Apparently he¹s being considered for one of the roles. As of yesterday, he
hadn¹t read the book So I described it for him. So if he ends up in the
movie I¹ll be pretty excited.

I am all for this project being made, and Khan¹s Britney Spears work is
completely irrelevant. He directed music videos, he didn¹t write the songs.
Steven Spielberg directed ³1941² and ³A.I². If any of us had done those
pictures, we¹d never work in Hollywood again. It¹s time for directors to
branch out and do challenging work. That¹s enough of Brett Ratner doing
everything.

There is apparently a lot of backlash about Khan getting the project, which
is rally interesting to me. Music video work is better than film school
sometimes. His commercial work is really good! I don¹t know if any director
would ever be ³good enough² to take this project on, and apparently Khan
agrees.

The following is from Joseph Khan¹s MySpace blog:

³Variety blew my cover over the weekend. This is the screenplay I've
been working on for the last two years.

As to the backlash.

There's going to be a backlash. You have to be nuts or stupid to take on
a monster like this. I knew what I was getting myself into. Stanley Kubrick
could take this on and he'd have a 14 year old in Iowa blogging on how wack
the cgi effects were in 2001, and then on the other hand a 45 year old child
molestor completely insistant nothing will ever look as good as the visuals
in his own head.

And they'd both hate Torque.

I could see how the combination of the Britney Spears director with
William Gibson is a controversial choice. But the problem is, the summation
of my career is not Britney Spears. I've done plenty of "cred" videos: Moby,
Chemical Brothers, Korn, U2, Muse to name a few. The headlines sound
attractively pessimistic to slap the successful pop example of my work to a
supposedly nihilistic work like Neuromancer. It really just demonstrates how
little most people know of the music video world and how it pertains to
filmmaking.

For instance, before David Fincher became the dark auteur that fanboys
salivate over, he made his name doingŠPaula Abdul videos. And hard core
Michael Bay with his rumbling guns and explosions madeŠMeatloaf videos, as
well asŠThe Divinyls "I Touch Myself." Those of you in the music video
business know the score and understand why this is.

I guess this is turning into a defense of myself, so I will defend
myself.

The other complaint lodged at me is that my movie Torque basically
sucked. It's either a sell out piece of commercial crap, or an incompetant
long form music video, or both, and it's a sure sign I'm clueless as a
filmmaker. And to all of this, I'll say: they're wrong.

Making your first movie under the Hollywood studio system is hard. It's
the hardest thing I've ever done. I'm telling you honestly with no
exaggeration: you have no clue what it's like to be put through that studio
grinder and retain any sort of authorship. The politics, the pressure, the
scapegoating, the interference, the pure physicality of an intense 70 day
shoot, the budget hysterics, the permeating sense of fear and negativity
from everyone. Torque is not 100% of what I wanted, but I'm proud of what it
is, because at the end of the day, after going through this studio machine
that blends movies together into mediocrity, it split people. Some hated it,
others loved it. Some actually had both reactions at the same time. Whatever
it was, it wasn't safe. The ice cream on the cone couldn't be digested
without a strong opinion. That's a tall order for an Ice Cube biker f

Re: [scifinoir2] Neuromancer

[Martin]

Okay, so I forgive Khan, fully and formally.

Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
I met Garrett Wang at LAX Airport yesterday morning. It was a very cool
conversation. If you¹re ever at a Trek con and see him there, by all means
strike up a conversation with him. He asked if I knew about the project.
Apparently he¹s being considered for one of the roles. As of yesterday, he
hadn¹t read the book So I described it for him. So if he ends up in the
movie I¹ll be pretty excited.

I am all for this project being made, and Khan¹s Britney Spears work is
completely irrelevant. He directed music videos, he didn¹t write the songs.
Steven Spielberg directed ³1941² and ³A.I². If any of us had done those
pictures, we¹d never work in Hollywood again. It¹s time for directors to
branch out and do challenging work. That¹s enough of Brett Ratner doing
everything.

There is apparently a lot of backlash about Khan getting the project, which
is rally interesting to me. Music video work is better than film school
sometimes. His commercial work is really good! I don¹t know if any director
would ever be ³good enough² to take this project on, and apparently Khan
agrees.

The following is from Joseph Khan¹s MySpace blog:

³Variety blew my cover over the weekend. This is the screenplay I've
been working on for the last two years.

As to the backlash.

There's going to be a backlash. You have to be nuts or stupid to take on
a monster like this. I knew what I was getting myself into. Stanley Kubrick
could take this on and he'd have a 14 year old in Iowa blogging on how wack
the cgi effects were in 2001, and then on the other hand a 45 year old child
molestor completely insistant nothing will ever look as good as the visuals
in his own head.

And they'd both hate Torque.

I could see how the combination of the Britney Spears director with
William Gibson is a controversial choice. But the problem is, the summation
of my career is not Britney Spears. I've done plenty of "cred" videos: Moby,
Chemical Brothers, Korn, U2, Muse to name a few. The headlines sound
attractively pessimistic to slap the successful pop example of my work to a
supposedly nihilistic work like Neuromancer. It really just demonstrates how
little most people know of the music video world and how it pertains to
filmmaking.

For instance, before David Fincher became the dark auteur that fanboys
salivate over, he made his name doingŠPaula Abdul videos. And hard core
Michael Bay with his rumbling guns and explosions madeŠMeatloaf videos, as
well asŠThe Divinyls "I Touch Myself." Those of you in the music video
business know the score and understand why this is.

I guess this is turning into a defense of myself, so I will defend
myself.

The other complaint lodged at me is that my movie Torque basically
sucked. It's either a sell out piece of commercial crap, or an incompetant
long form music video, or both, and it's a sure sign I'm clueless as a
filmmaker. And to all of this, I'll say: they're wrong.

Making your first movie under the Hollywood studio system is hard. It's
the hardest thing I've ever done. I'm telling you honestly with no
exaggeration: you have no clue what it's like to be put through that studio
grinder and retain any sort of authorship. The politics, the pressure, the
scapegoating, the interference, the pure physicality of an intense 70 day
shoot, the budget hysterics, the permeating sense of fear and negativity
from everyone. Torque is not 100% of what I wanted, but I'm proud of what it
is, because at the end of the day, after going through this studio machine
that blends movies together into mediocrity, it split people. Some hated it,
others loved it. Some actually had both reactions at the same time. Whatever
it was, it wasn't safe. The ice cream on the cone couldn't be digested
without a strong opinion. That's a tall order for an Ice Cube biker flick.
Your welcome.

So that's one of the reasons why "they" hired me to do Neuromancer, and
make no mistake, Gibson is one of "them." There's no way in hell I'm on this
without at least a half disinegnous grunt of approval from him. Yes, Chris
Cunningham was attached to this years ago and you may think him as a far
cooler director than me, but he quit. HE QUIT. Understand? Sorry. He
abandoned the baby on the doorstep, and it will never come to daddy again.

I'm on it because I am nuts, and I am stupid, and I will throw
everything I have at making a book that's been ripped off left and right and
considered impossible to adaptŠwork. I've spent my whole life making things.
People who don't know me seem to dismiss me as some cliché blinged out music
video director, and even if that jealous perception were true then remember
this - I started with nothing. No contacts in Hollywood, no money, nothing.
All I've ever had to survive is the dedication to my craft. All I know how
to do is make things, and if Neuromancer is on my plate, I am going to make
it. That's why this film finally has a chance at gettin

Re: [scifinoir2] Neuromancer

[Daryle]

I met Garrett Wang at LAX Airport yesterday morning. It was a very cool
conversation. If you¹re ever at a Trek con and see him there,  by all means
strike up a conversation with him. He asked if I knew about the project.
Apparently  he¹s being  considered for one of the roles. As of yesterday, he
hadn¹t read the book So I described it for him. So if he ends up in the
movie I¹ll  be pretty excited.

I am all for this project being made, and Khan¹s Britney Spears work is
completely irrelevant. He directed music videos,  he didn¹t write the songs.
Steven Spielberg directed ³1941² and ³A.I².  If any of us had done those
pictures, we¹d never work in Hollywood again. It¹s time for directors to
branch out and do challenging work. That¹s enough of Brett Ratner doing
everything.

There is apparently a lot of backlash about Khan getting the project, which
is rally interesting to me. Music video  work is better than film school
sometimes. His commercial work is really good! I don¹t know if any director
would ever  be ³good enough² to take this project on, and apparently Khan
agrees.

The following is  from Joseph Khan¹s MySpace blog:

³Variety blew my cover over the weekend. This is the screenplay I've
been working on for the last two years.

As to the backlash.

There's going to be a backlash. You have to be nuts or stupid to take on
a monster like this. I knew what I was getting myself into. Stanley Kubrick
could take this on and he'd have a 14 year old in Iowa blogging on how wack
the cgi effects were in 2001, and then on the other hand a 45 year old child
molestor completely insistant nothing will ever look as good as the visuals
in his own head.

And they'd both hate Torque.

I could see how the combination of the Britney Spears director with
William Gibson is a controversial choice. But the problem is, the summation
of my career is not Britney Spears. I've done plenty of "cred" videos: Moby,
Chemical Brothers, Korn, U2, Muse to name a few. The headlines sound
attractively pessimistic to slap the successful pop example of my work to a
supposedly nihilistic work like Neuromancer. It really just demonstrates how
little most people know of the music video world and how it pertains to
filmmaking.

For instance, before David Fincher became the dark auteur that fanboys
salivate over, he made his name doingŠPaula Abdul videos. And hard core
Michael Bay with his rumbling guns and explosions madeŠMeatloaf videos, as
well asŠThe Divinyls "I Touch Myself." Those of you in the music video
business know the score and understand why this is.

I guess this is turning into a defense of myself, so I will defend
myself.

The other complaint lodged at me is that my movie Torque basically
sucked. It's either a sell out piece of commercial crap, or an incompetant
long form music video, or both, and it's a sure sign I'm clueless as a
filmmaker. And to all of this, I'll say: they're wrong.

Making your first movie under the Hollywood studio system is hard. It's
the hardest thing I've ever done. I'm telling you honestly with no
exaggeration: you have no clue what it's like to be put through that studio
grinder and retain any sort of authorship. The politics, the pressure, the
scapegoating, the interference, the pure physicality of an intense 70 day
shoot, the budget hysterics, the permeating sense of fear and negativity
from everyone. Torque is not 100% of what I wanted, but I'm proud of what it
is, because at the end of the day, after going through this studio machine
that blends movies together into mediocrity, it split people. Some hated it,
others loved it. Some actually had both reactions at the same time. Whatever
it was, it wasn't safe. The ice cream on the cone couldn't be digested
without a strong opinion. That's a tall order for an Ice Cube biker flick.
Your welcome.

So that's one of the reasons why "they" hired me to do Neuromancer, and
make no mistake, Gibson is one of "them." There's no way in hell I'm on this
without at least a half disinegnous grunt of approval from him. Yes, Chris
Cunningham was attached to this years ago and you may think him as a far
cooler director than me, but he quit. HE QUIT. Understand? Sorry. He
abandoned the baby on the doorstep, and it will never come to daddy again.

I'm on it because I am nuts, and I am stupid, and I will throw
everything I have at making a book that's been ripped off left and right and
considered impossible to adaptŠwork. I've spent my whole life making things.
People who don't know me seem to dismiss me as some cliché blinged out music
video director, and even if that jealous perception were true then remember
this - I started with nothing. No contacts in Hollywood, no money, nothing.
All I've ever had to survive is the dedication to my craft. All I know how
to do is make things, and if Neuromancer is on my plate, I am going to make
it. That's why this film finally has a chance at getting made.

Now here we are and all 

Re: [scifinoir2] Neuromancer

[Martin]

WHEW! There's a memory no one needed to relive...

Mike Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  He also direct the hot mess 
that was Torque. But yeah it's still in
rumors I heard about that a few month back. But haven't heard anything
new since.

On Nov 26, 2007 4:23 PM, Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Read a rumor that Gibson's Neuromancer is being brought to the big
> screen which made me jump for joy until I read that it would be
> directed by Joseph Kahn who directed a Brittany Spears video.
>
> Did this get discussed here already and I missed it? If not, does
> anyone know anything further?
>
> Bosco
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Re: [scifinoir2] Neuromancer

[KeithBJohnson]

agreed. Read my movie reviews and you'll see the *main* thing I complain about 
after bad plotting/acting is music video direction. Maybe i'm just old, but i 
remember the days when a movie used long shots, slow pans, and let the action 
fill the screen and take place. Nowadays, so many films move the camera all 
herky-jerky, the screen's a jumbled mass of confusion, and the cuts and 
"action" are artificially frenetic. It's exactly like many music videos, which 
inexplicably may have a bazillion scene cuts in a few minutes. Why do I need to 
see a singer from ten thousand angles, each shot of which only lasts two 
seconds? I find all the modern penchant for fast-moving scenes to be irritating.

I wish more young directors would go back and watch films from "Shane" to 
"Lawrence of Arabia" to "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" to a host of films 
where the long shot and slow pan are used effectively. Heck, even watch 
"Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon", to see an *action* film that doesn't make the 
camera an intrusive partner to hype up the fever pitch!

-- Original message -- 
From: "Mike Street" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
But only a rare few can translate the art of story telling to film
after having done a music video. We can go down the list of failed
movies music video directors. I think a lot of them miss the art of
storytelling because most music videos have no story at all. Just
images and sound

On Nov 27, 2007 9:11 AM, Justin Mohareb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Why would that be? A lot of directors get work directing music videos
> at the beginnings of their careers.
>
> Besides, his work certainly has the stylized feel to it that an
> adaptation of Neurormancer would require. Check out those phone ads.
>
> http://www.josephkahn.com/index.xml?short=1
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Nov 27, 2007 12:10 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L.
>
> Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Amen! The horror!
> >
> >
> > Martin wrote:
> > >
> > > I didn't know that. As for that director, directing Miss Spears is a
> > > serious black mark on him before he's out of the gate.
>
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>
> 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Neuromancer

[Mike Street]

But only a rare few can translate the art of story telling to film
after having done a music video. We can go down the list of failed
movies music video directors. I think a lot of them miss the art of
storytelling because most music videos have no story at all. Just
images and sound

On Nov 27, 2007 9:11 AM, Justin Mohareb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Why would that be? A lot of directors get work directing music videos
>  at the beginnings of their careers.
>
>  Besides, his work certainly has the stylized feel to it that an
>  adaptation of Neurormancer would require. Check out those phone ads.
>
>  http://www.josephkahn.com/index.xml?short=1
>
>  JJ Mohareb
>
>  On Nov 27, 2007 12:10 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L.
>
>  Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  > Amen! The horror!
>  >
>  >
>  > Martin wrote:
>  > >
>  > > I didn't know that. As for that director, directing Miss Spears is a
>  > > serious black mark on him before he's out of the gate.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Neuromancer

[Justin Mohareb]

Why would that be?  A lot of directors get work directing music videos
at the beginnings of their careers.

Besides, his work certainly has the stylized feel to it that an
adaptation of Neurormancer would require.  Check out those phone ads.

http://www.josephkahn.com/index.xml?short=1

JJ Mohareb

On Nov 27, 2007 12:10 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L.
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> Amen! The horror!
>
>
>  Martin wrote:
>  >
>  > I didn't know that. As for that director, directing Miss Spears is a
  >  > serious black mark on him before he's out of the gate.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Neuromancer

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

Amen! The horror!

Martin wrote:
>
> I didn't know that. As for that director, directing Miss Spears is a 
> serious black mark on him before he's out of the gate.
>
> Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Oh 
> hell yeah! I just hope they don't screw it up like they did Johnny 
> Nemonic...BTW, how many of you guys know that Neuromancer is an ad hoc 
> sequel to Johnny Nemonic?
>
> Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 
> wrote: Read a rumor that Gibson's Neuromancer is being brought to the big
> screen which made me jump for joy until I read that it would be
> directed by Joseph Kahn who directed a Brittany Spears video.
>
> Did this get discussed here already and I missed it? If not, does
> anyone know anything further?
>
> Bosco
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Re: [scifinoir2] Neuromancer

[Mike Street]

He also direct the hot mess that was Torque. But yeah it's still in
rumors I heard about that a few month back. But haven't heard anything
new since.

On Nov 26, 2007 4:23 PM, Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Read a rumor that Gibson's Neuromancer is being brought to the big
>  screen which made me jump for joy until I read that it would be
>  directed by Joseph Kahn who directed a Brittany Spears video.
>
>  Did this get discussed here already and I missed it? If not, does
>  anyone know anything further?
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Neuromancer

[Martin]

No, Bosco, this is the first I recall of it being mentioned.

Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Read a rumor that Gibson's 
Neuromancer is being brought to the big
screen which made me jump for joy until I read that it would be
directed by Joseph Kahn who directed a Brittany Spears video. 

Did this get discussed here already and I missed it? If not, does
anyone know anything further?

Bosco

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Re: [scifinoir2] Neuromancer

[Martin]

I didn't know that. As for that director, directing Miss Spears is a serious 
black mark on him before he's out of the gate.

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Oh hell yeah! I just hope they 
don't screw it up like they did Johnny Nemonic...BTW, how many of you guys know 
that Neuromancer is an ad hoc sequel to Johnny Nemonic?

Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Read a rumor that Gibson's Neuromancer 
is being brought to the big
screen which made me jump for joy until I read that it would be
directed by Joseph Kahn who directed a Brittany Spears video. 

Did this get discussed here already and I missed it? If not, does
anyone know anything further?

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Re: [scifinoir2] Neuromancer

[Astromancer]

Oh hell yeah! I just hope they don't screw it up like they did Johnny 
Nemonic...BTW, how many of you guys know that Neuromancer is an ad hoc sequel 
to Johnny Nemonic?

Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Read a rumor that Gibson's 
Neuromancer is being brought to the big
screen which made me jump for joy until I read that it would be
directed by Joseph Kahn who directed a Brittany Spears video. 

Did this get discussed here already and I missed it? If not, does
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[scifinoir2] Neuromancer

[Bosco Bosco]

Read a rumor that Gibson's Neuromancer is being brought to the big
screen which made me jump for joy until I read that it would be
directed by Joseph Kahn who directed a Brittany Spears video. 

Did this get discussed here already and I missed it? If not, does
anyone know anything further?

Bosco


  

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