Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill?
great, it's on the list! - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 7:51:43 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Keith, you're doing yourself a service by taking these in. When I first saw Jackie Brown, I came into the room just after the credits had run. Watching it all the way through (and being thoroughly delighted by it), I was dumbfounded to see Tarantino's anme as the director. Felt nothing like his usual oeuvre, which made the experience all the better, to say nothing of it making him one of my favorite directors. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:52:44 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? thanks for that. I guess I need to look up Reservoir Dogs, finally see all of Pulp Fiction, and take in Jackie Brown. that last starts more arguments than the question I raised does. I hear people say it was his best movie ever, but others say no, because it's the least Tarantino-like film, and therefore can't be his best film ever. I think I know this answer, but how do you feel about his usage of the n-word so much in his movies? Remember when Spike Lee all but wanted to have him taken out for that? Spike even counted the number of times the word was used in individual movies--I think Jackie Brown was the one that set him off--and said it was too much. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2009 10:14:37 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Kill Bill was the exception and it was very intentional. It was his fanboy movie and he threw everything he loved up there on the screen. His other films are more nods than homages to the stuff he loves. He has his own eccentricities like the obsession with women's feet, pop culture references and his infamous trunk shot that appears in every movie but it's his style. Jackie Brown still remains his most accomplished and grown up movie imho and he manages to evoke the feelings of his influences without the direct homages. Inglorious Basterds was very well done and a step forward for him. The ad campaign doesn't really do it justice. People went in expecting the movie to be about Brad Pitt and crew scalpin' Nazis but got much more. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: It's really good, but let me ask you: does Tarantino ever go too far in his homages/copying of other genres for your taste? For example, I loved Kill Bill, but by the time the Bride and Lu's character were fighting in the garden, complete with the water thing going, I felt as if I were being hit over the head with homages. I guess it's one thing to have touches from other films in your movie, but Tarantino literally stuffs his films with those, and it's not very subtle. Not complaining, mind you. I've only seen two of his films, so don't know if his originality outshines his homages, or if he simply repackages the homages in a skillful enough way so that one doesn't mind. After all, there are very few original ideas in Hollywood, so recycling old themes isn't by itself a crime. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2009 9:35:27 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? That was Sofie Fatale. Julie Dreyfus also has a small but meaty role in Inglorious Basterds. *putting away my Japanese special edition boxed set of Kill Bill Vol. 1* I guess you can say I'm fan. The cinematic references, cameos and injokes from the movie are heaven for fans of Asian, Italian and 70s grindhouse cinema. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Wow, you must be a fan! Who was the lady who was Lucy Lu's sidekick? The one who was half Asian and described as Dressed like a villain from Star Trek? I wish she'd been given more to do (i must admit because i couldn't stop staring at her) - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2009 1:47:55 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? It could
[scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill?
Keith, have you noticed how little power the word nigger has to wound these days? It has joined the ranks of spook, jiggaboo, spearchucker and tar baby - which are currently more likely to incite a smile than a beat down. One day when somebody calls my as yet unborn grandson a nigger it will have as much power to wound as when you currently call a white person a honkie. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Just to ask, how in your mind does QT using the n-word in the context of the worlds of his movies differ from black people doing it? I remember watching the movie The Best Man (I think it was), the guys casually used the n-word quite a bit. I may be wrong, maybe it was The Wood. At any rate, it was a black comedy that was one of those that'd be seen by black families, and i was a bit surprised at how casually the word was thrown around. And of course Jay-Z has recently argued with Oprah Winfrey that the word should be used by people like him in order to take away its power--an argument I have never supported. To be clear, I grew up in a time when the n-word was casually used all the time. I no longer use it myself, but I have tons of relatives and friends who do use it, typically when they're pissed at someone. I am admittedly from that school that may not like it when a black person uses the word, but who *hates* it when a white person directs it a black person. But that said, QT, I must admit, wasn't hurling it at black people as a personal insult, just using it in the context of the world he'd built onscreen--a world based on teh Blaxploitation movies he'd absorbed as a kid. So, if he's using characters from such a world, and if we admit that such characters --like Jay Z--still use the word quite a bit, is QT wrong for capturing that onscreen? I don't have a full opinion, again, because I've only seen two of his pictures. I remember the n-word being tossed around in Pulp Fiction when QT's character was pissed at the black man who'd been accidentally killed. I flinched everytime he said it, but figured, he's playing a racist character, which is the point. Of course we could argue that there's something disturbing about QT's fascination with one aspect of Black culture, but does that make him racist, clueless, confused, what? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 9:27:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but  who's left to kill?  Jackie Brown is Tarantino doing Elmore Leonard. He captures the plot and feeling of the novel but changed the setting of the book from Florida to California and changed Jackie Burke to Jackie Brown and made her black. There are a few other minor changes but the movie plays just like the novel and is better for it. I definitely agreed with Spike Lee's concerns and although QT had his blood up I think the criticism stung him. His subsequent movies have definitely toned it down. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: great, it's on the list! - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 7:51:43 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Keith, you're doing yourself a service by taking these in. When I first saw Jackie Brown, I came into the room just after the credits had run. Watching it all the way through (and being thoroughly delighted by it), I was dumbfounded to see Tarantino's anme as the director. Felt nothing like his usual oeuvre, which made the experience all the better, to say nothing of it making him one of my favorite directors. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:52:44 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? thanks for that. I guess I need to look up Reservoir Dogs, finally see all of Pulp Fiction, and take in Jackie Brown. that last starts more arguments than the question I raised does. I hear people say it was his best movie ever, but others say no, because it's the least Tarantino-like film, and therefore can't be his best film ever. I think I know this answer, but how do you feel about his usage of the n-word so much in his movies? Remember when Spike Lee all but wanted to have him taken out for that? Spike
[scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill?
Unfortunately it's no different and I find the use of the word cringeworthy most of the time. So no he doesn't get a pass but neither do other filmakers who do it for shock value. Like you mentioned a lot of black folks use the word casually and the characters in Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown use it pretty much in character. I had bigger problems with the usage in Pulp Fiction than in Jackie brown to be perfectly honest. I think part of it was Samuel L. Jackson's persona and the characters on the screen. In Jackie Brown it fit because Ordell was that type of guy. In Pulp Fiction Jules, Marcellus and even the rednecks usage fit the characters but QT's character talking about Dead N* Storage rang hollow. He was Jules' friend and they were in a jam but that level of disrespect seemed fake. My wife thought that Tracie Thoms character's few n-bombs seemed forced in Death Proof because it was so not like the characters she had done before. I didn't have that baggage and I thought it fit the role. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Just to ask, how in your mind does QT using the n-word in the context of the worlds of his movies differ from black people doing it? I remember watching the movie The Best Man (I think it was), the guys casually used the n-word quite a bit. I may be wrong, maybe it was The Wood. At any rate, it was a black comedy that was one of those that'd be seen by black families, and i was a bit surprised at how casually the word was thrown around. And of course Jay-Z has recently argued with Oprah Winfrey that the word should be used by people like him in order to take away its power--an argument I have never supported. To be clear, I grew up in a time when the n-word was casually used all the time. I no longer use it myself, but I have tons of relatives and friends who do use it, typically when they're pissed at someone. I am admittedly from that school that may not like it when a black person uses the word, but who *hates* it when a white person directs it a black person. But that said, QT, I must admit, wasn't hurling it at black people as a personal insult, just using it in the context of the world he'd built onscreen--a world based on teh Blaxploitation movies he'd absorbed as a kid. So, if he's using characters from such a world, and if we admit that such characters --like Jay Z--still use the word quite a bit, is QT wrong for capturing that onscreen? I don't have a full opinion, again, because I've only seen two of his pictures. I remember the n-word being tossed around in Pulp Fiction when QT's character was pissed at the black man who'd been accidentally killed. I flinched everytime he said it, but figured, he's playing a racist character, which is the point. Of course we could argue that there's something disturbing about QT's fascination with one aspect of Black culture, but does that make him racist, clueless, confused, what? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 9:27:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but  who's left to kill?  Jackie Brown is Tarantino doing Elmore Leonard. He captures the plot and feeling of the novel but changed the setting of the book from Florida to California and changed Jackie Burke to Jackie Brown and made her black. There are a few other minor changes but the movie plays just like the novel and is better for it. I definitely agreed with Spike Lee's concerns and although QT had his blood up I think the criticism stung him. His subsequent movies have definitely toned it down. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: great, it's on the list! - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 7:51:43 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Keith, you're doing yourself a service by taking these in. When I first saw Jackie Brown, I came into the room just after the credits had run. Watching it all the way through (and being thoroughly delighted by it), I was dumbfounded to see Tarantino's anme as the director. Felt nothing like his usual oeuvre, which made the experience all the better, to say nothing of it making him one of my favorite directors. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:52:44 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill?
Gotta disagree with you there. I think it wounds *some* less nowadays, but I can give you a list as long as my arm of people--me included--who see red if called that by a white person. And I know some young brothers and sisters who thought they were immune to its power because they hear it all the time in rap music. But, when they are the targets of its directed hate by a white person, and therefore confronted with all the evil that goes behind it, they were indeed, wounded. Your point that it's gradually losing its power as new generations come who are further removed from the bad old days is well taken. But if we teach our history and remind those new generations of where we've come from, I don't know that it'll really become so innocuous. That depends a great deal on whether this nation as a whole abandons racism. If we ever truly become post-racial, I can see it losing its sting. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 10:58:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Keith, have you noticed how little power the word nigger has to wound these days? It has joined the ranks of spook, jiggaboo, spearchucker and tar baby - which are currently more likely to incite a smile than a beat down. One day when somebody calls my as yet unborn grandson a nigger it will have as much power to wound as when you currently call a white person a honkie. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Just to ask, how in your mind does QT using the n-word in the context of the worlds of his movies differ from black people doing it? I remember watching the movie The Best Man (I think it was), the guys casually used the n-word quite a bit. I may be wrong, maybe it was The Wood. At any rate, it was a black comedy that was one of those that'd be seen by black families, and i was a bit surprised at how casually the word was thrown around. And of course Jay-Z has recently argued with Oprah Winfrey that the word should be used by people like him in order to take away its power--an argument I have never supported. To be clear, I grew up in a time when the n-word was casually used all the time. I no longer use it myself, but I have tons of relatives and friends who do use it, typically when they're pissed at someone. I am admittedly from that school that may not like it when a black person uses the word, but who *hates* it when a white person directs it a black person. But that said, QT, I must admit, wasn't hurling it at black people as a personal insult, just using it in the context of the world he'd built onscreen--a world based on teh Blaxploitation movies he'd absorbed as a kid. So, if he's using characters from such a world, and if we admit that such characters --like Jay Z--still use the word quite a bit, is QT wrong for capturing that onscreen? I don't have a full opinion, again, because I've only seen two of his pictures. I remember the n-word being tossed around in Pulp Fiction when QT's character was pissed at the black man who'd been accidentally killed. I flinched everytime he said it, but figured, he's playing a racist character, which is the point. Of course we could argue that there's something disturbing about QT's fascination with one aspect of Black culture, but does that make him racist, clueless, confused, what? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 9:27:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but  who's left to kill?  Jackie Brown is Tarantino doing Elmore Leonard. He captures the plot and feeling of the novel but changed the setting of the book from Florida to California and changed Jackie Burke to Jackie Brown and made her black. There are a few other minor changes but the movie plays just like the novel and is better for it. I definitely agreed with Spike Lee's concerns and although QT had his blood up I think the criticism stung him. His subsequent movies have definitely toned it down. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: great, it's on the list! - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 7:51:43 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Keith, you're doing yourself a service by taking these in. When I first saw Jackie Brown, I came into the room just after the credits had run. Watching it all the way through (and being
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Keith, a White friend and fellow writer once told me what that word means. One who engages in sexual activities with animals. Tell that to Jay-Z and these young Black men hosing the word around, and they'll drop the use of it fast. (Personal experience at play.) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:59:11 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Just to ask, how in your mind does QT using the n-word in the context of the worlds of his movies differ from black people doing it? I remember watching the movie The Best Man (I think it was), the guys casually used the n-word quite a bit. I may be wrong, maybe it was The Wood. At any rate, it was a black comedy that was one of those that'd be seen by black families, and i was a bit surprised at how casually the word was thrown around. And of course Jay-Z has recently argued with Oprah Winfrey that the word should be used by people like him in order to take away its power--an argument I have never supported. To be clear, I grew up in a time when the n-word was casually used all the time. I no longer use it myself, but I have tons of relatives and friends who do use it, typically when they're pissed at someone. I am admittedly from that school that may not like it when a black person uses the word, but who *hates* it when a white person directs it a black person. But that said, QT, I must admit, wasn't hurling it at black people as a personal insult, just using it in the context of the world he'd built onscreen--a world based on teh Blaxploitation movies he'd absorbed as a kid. So, if he's using characters from such a world, and if we admit that such characters --like Jay Z--still use the word quite a bit, is QT wrong for capturing that onscreen? I don't have a full opinion, again, because I've only seen two of his pictures. I remember the n-word being tossed around in Pulp Fiction when QT's character was pissed at the black man who'd been accidentally killed. I flinched everytime he said it, but figured, he's playing a racist character, which is the point. Of course we could argue that there's something disturbing about QT's fascination with one aspect of Black culture, but does that make him racist, clueless, confused, what? - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 9:27:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Jackie Brown is Tarantino doing Elmore Leonard. He captures the plot and feeling of the novel but changed the setting of the book from Florida to California and changed Jackie Burke to Jackie Brown and made her black. There are a few other minor changes but the movie plays just like the novel and is better for it. I definitely agreed with Spike Lee's concerns and although QT had his blood up I think the criticism stung him. His subsequent movies have definitely toned it down. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: great, it's on the list! - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 7:51:43 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Keith, you're doing yourself a service by taking these in. When I first saw Jackie Brown, I came into the room just after the credits had run. Watching it all the way through (and being thoroughly delighted by it), I was dumbfounded to see Tarantino's anme as the director. Felt nothing like his usual oeuvre, which made the experience all the better, to say nothing of it making him one of my favorite directors. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@... Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:52:44 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? thanks for that. I guess I need to look up Reservoir Dogs, finally see all of Pulp Fiction, and take in Jackie Brown. that last starts more arguments than the question I raised does. I hear people say it was his best movie ever, but others say no, because it's the least Tarantino-like film, and therefore can't be his best film ever. I think I know this answer, but how do you feel about his usage
[scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill?
Kill Bill was the exception and it was very intentional. It was his fanboy movie and he threw everything he loved up there on the screen. His other films are more nods than homages to the stuff he loves. He has his own eccentricities like the obsession with women's feet, pop culture references and his infamous trunk shot that appears in every movie but it's his style. Jackie Brown still remains his most accomplished and grown up movie imho and he manages to evoke the feelings of his influences without the direct homages. Inglorious Basterds was very well done and a step forward for him. The ad campaign doesn't really do it justice. People went in expecting the movie to be about Brad Pitt and crew scalpin' Nazis but got much more. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: It's really good, but let me ask you: does Tarantino ever go too far in his homages/copying of other genres for your taste? For example, I loved Kill Bill, but by the time the Bride and Lu's character were fighting in the garden, complete with the water thing going, I felt as if I were being hit over the head with homages. I guess it's one thing to have touches from other films in your movie, but Tarantino literally stuffs his films with those, and it's not very subtle. Not complaining, mind you. I've only seen two of his films, so don't know if his originality outshines his homages, or if he simply repackages the homages in a skillful enough way so that one doesn't mind. After all, there are very few original ideas in Hollywood, so recycling old themes isn't by itself a crime. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2009 9:35:27 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? That was Sofie Fatale. Julie Dreyfus also has a small but meaty role in Inglorious Basterds. *putting away my Japanese special edition boxed set of Kill Bill Vol. 1* I guess you can say I'm fan. The cinematic references, cameos and injokes from the movie are heaven for fans of Asian, Italian and 70s grindhouse cinema. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Wow, you must be a fan! Who was the lady who was Lucy Lu's sidekick? The one who was half Asian and described as Dressed like a villain from Star Trek? I wish she'd been given more to do (i must admit because i couldn't stop staring at her) - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2009 1:47:55 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? It could definitely work and they could bring back Elle Driver, Sofie Fatale and Johnny Mo as her bitter, crippled masters. If they really wanted to rock our worlds they could actually have Vernita's daughter succeed and have the Bride's daughter taking up the sword and going after her. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: that could work... - Original Message - From: Justin Mohareb justinmohareb@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 11:43:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Actually, I believe he mentioned using the actor who played her daughter in the first film, since she'll have actually grown into the role in the intervening decade and a half. I believe he mentioned filming scenes on an ongoing basis. Justin On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Damn! Now the guys have *me* doing it, but when I thought of Copperhead's daughter going after The Bride, my first thought was Rosario Dawson could pull off a kickass woman bent on revenge like nobody's business! Is she too old to play Copperhead's daughter only ten years from now? Sure...but this is Tarentino. I'm sure he could come up with some crazy excuse, and the incongruity of age could add a built in humour to heighten the camp factor. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , ggszig@ , Cinque3000 cinque3000@ , Sincere sincere1906@ Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 2:00:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? During promotion for the first two Kill Bill films, creator Quentin Tarantino hypothisized that he'd like to return for a third installment
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thanks for that. I guess I need to look up Reservoir Dogs, finally see all of Pulp Fiction, and take in Jackie Brown. that last starts more arguments than the question I raised does. I hear people say it was his best movie ever, but others say no, because it's the least Tarantino-like film, and therefore can't be his best film ever. I think I know this answer, but how do you feel about his usage of the n-word so much in his movies? Remember when Spike Lee all but wanted to have him taken out for that? Spike even counted the number of times the word was used in individual movies--I think Jackie Brown was the one that set him off--and said it was too much. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2009 10:14:37 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Kill Bill was the exception and it was very intentional. It was his fanboy movie and he threw everything he loved up there on the screen. His other films are more nods than homages to the stuff he loves. He has his own eccentricities like the obsession with women's feet, pop culture references and his infamous trunk shot that appears in every movie but it's his style. Jackie Brown still remains his most accomplished and grown up movie imho and he manages to evoke the feelings of his influences without the direct homages. Inglorious Basterds was very well done and a step forward for him. The ad campaign doesn't really do it justice. People went in expecting the movie to be about Brad Pitt and crew scalpin' Nazis but got much more. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: It's really good, but let me ask you: does Tarantino ever go too far in his homages/copying of other genres for your taste? For example, I loved Kill Bill, but by the time the Bride and Lu's character were fighting in the garden, complete with the water thing going, I felt as if I were being hit over the head with homages. I guess it's one thing to have touches from other films in your movie, but Tarantino literally stuffs his films with those, and it's not very subtle. Not complaining, mind you. I've only seen two of his films, so don't know if his originality outshines his homages, or if he simply repackages the homages in a skillful enough way so that one doesn't mind. After all, there are very few original ideas in Hollywood, so recycling old themes isn't by itself a crime. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2009 9:35:27 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? That was Sofie Fatale. Julie Dreyfus also has a small but meaty role in Inglorious Basterds. *putting away my Japanese special edition boxed set of Kill Bill Vol. 1* I guess you can say I'm fan. The cinematic references, cameos and injokes from the movie are heaven for fans of Asian, Italian and 70s grindhouse cinema. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Wow, you must be a fan! Who was the lady who was Lucy Lu's sidekick? The one who was half Asian and described as Dressed like a villain from Star Trek? I wish she'd been given more to do (i must admit because i couldn't stop staring at her) - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2009 1:47:55 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? It could definitely work and they could bring back Elle Driver, Sofie Fatale and Johnny Mo as her bitter, crippled masters. If they really wanted to rock our worlds they could actually have Vernita's daughter succeed and have the Bride's daughter taking up the sword and going after her. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: that could work... - Original Message - From: Justin Mohareb justinmohareb@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 11:43:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Actually, I believe he mentioned using the actor who played her daughter in the first film, since she'll have actually grown into the role in the intervening decade and a half. I believe he mentioned filming scenes on an ongoing basis. Justin On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Damn! Now the guys have *me* doing it, but when I
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That was Sofie Fatale. Julie Dreyfus also has a small but meaty role in Inglorious Basterds. *putting away my Japanese special edition boxed set of Kill Bill Vol. 1* I guess you can say I'm fan. The cinematic references, cameos and injokes from the movie are heaven for fans of Asian, Italian and 70s grindhouse cinema. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Wow, you must be a fan! Who was the lady who was Lucy Lu's sidekick? The one who was half Asian and described as Dressed like a villain from Star Trek? I wish she'd been given more to do (i must admit because i couldn't stop staring at her) - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2009 1:47:55 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? It could definitely work and they could bring back Elle Driver, Sofie Fatale and Johnny Mo as her bitter, crippled masters. If they really wanted to rock our worlds they could actually have Vernita's daughter succeed and have the Bride's daughter taking up the sword and going after her. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: that could work... - Original Message - From: Justin Mohareb justinmohareb@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 11:43:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Actually, I believe he mentioned using the actor who played her daughter in the first film, since she'll have actually grown into the role in the intervening decade and a half. I believe he mentioned filming scenes on an ongoing basis. Justin On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Damn! Now the guys have *me* doing it, but when I thought of Copperhead's daughter going after The Bride, my first thought was Rosario Dawson could pull off a kickass woman bent on revenge like nobody's business! Is she too old to play Copperhead's daughter only ten years from now? Sure...but this is Tarentino. I'm sure he could come up with some crazy excuse, and the incongruity of age could add a built in humour to heighten the camp factor. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , ggszig@ , Cinque3000 cinque3000@ , Sincere sincere1906@ Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 2:00:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? During promotion for the first two Kill Bill films, creator Quentin Tarantino hypothisized that he'd like to return for a third installment that would take place 10 years afterward the second film ended. Six years since Vol. 1 and a little over five years since Vol. 2, Tarantino has made waves by letting everyone know he hasn't abandoned his plan. Speaking during a press conference for Inglourious Basterds in Mexico on Saturday, Tarantino says he still plays to shoot Kill Bill 3 in or around 2014. According to Variety, the filmmaker said he'd shoot a different picture inbetween. He's currently contemplating a re-imagining of a number of genres including a Western or a '30's type gangster movie. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 ended with The Bride (Uma Thurman) reunited with her baby and all of her targets killed. Most speculate that Copperhead's daughter, who is spared in Vol. 1 would be the most likely protagonist now that she's all grown up and no doubt has revenge of her own on her mind. The Bill portion of the film would be difficult to incorporate even in flashbacks after David Carradine's death this past summer. More curious is who exactly would produce the feature? It's unclear whether this is a project the Weinstein's were allowed to keep the rights too when they left Miramax in 2005 or whether it would kick back to the recently gutted indie specialty label. Needless to say, parent company Disney would hardly be adverse to making a sequel to a series that has already grossed $332 million worldwide. Plus, the mammoth success of Basterds this summer ensures, at least for the time being, that Tarantino's reign in pop culture is hardly over. Thurman will be seen in theaters later this month in the romantic comedy Motherhood. More on this story as it develops on HitFix. Can you wait another 5 years for a third Kill Bill? Do you think it's still a good idea? http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-10-5-quentin-tarantino-confirms-kill-bill-vol-3-but-who-s-left-to-kill Tracey
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Oh yes. The obvious anime influence is obvious. 3 :D ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:35 AM, B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: That was Sofie Fatale. Julie Dreyfus also has a small but meaty role in Inglorious Basterds. *putting away my Japanese special edition boxed set of Kill Bill Vol. 1* I guess you can say I'm fan. The cinematic references, cameos and injokes from the movie are heaven for fans of Asian, Italian and 70s grindhouse cinema. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Wow, you must be a fan! Who was the lady who was Lucy Lu's sidekick? The one who was half Asian and described as Dressed like a villain from Star Trek? I wish she'd been given more to do (i must admit because i couldn't stop staring at her) - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2009 1:47:55 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? It could definitely work and they could bring back Elle Driver, Sofie Fatale and Johnny Mo as her bitter, crippled masters. If they really wanted to rock our worlds they could actually have Vernita's daughter succeed and have the Bride's daughter taking up the sword and going after her. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: that could work... - Original Message - From: Justin Mohareb justinmohareb@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 11:43:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Actually, I believe he mentioned using the actor who played her daughter in the first film, since she'll have actually grown into the role in the intervening decade and a half. I believe he mentioned filming scenes on an ongoing basis. Justin On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Damn! Now the guys have *me* doing it, but when I thought of Copperhead's daughter going after The Bride, my first thought was Rosario Dawson could pull off a kickass woman bent on revenge like nobody's business! Is she too old to play Copperhead's daughter only ten years from now? Sure...but this is Tarentino. I'm sure he could come up with some crazy excuse, and the incongruity of age could add a built in humour to heighten the camp factor. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , ggszig@ , Cinque3000 cinque3000@ , Sincere sincere1906@ Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 2:00:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? During promotion for the first two Kill Bill films, creator Quentin Tarantino hypothisized that he'd like to return for a third installment that would take place 10 years afterward the second film ended. Six years since Vol. 1 and a little over five years since Vol. 2, Tarantino has made waves by letting everyone know he hasn't abandoned his plan. Speaking during a press conference for Inglourious Basterds in Mexico on Saturday, Tarantino says he still plays to shoot Kill Bill 3 in or around 2014. According to Variety, the filmmaker said he'd shoot a different picture inbetween. He's currently contemplating a re-imagining of a number of genres including a Western or a '30's type gangster movie. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 ended with The Bride (Uma Thurman) reunited with her baby and all of her targets killed. Most speculate that Copperhead's daughter, who is spared in Vol. 1 would be the most likely protagonist now that she's all grown up and no doubt has revenge of her own on her mind. The Bill portion of the film would be difficult to incorporate even in flashbacks after David Carradine's death this past summer. More curious is who exactly would produce the feature? It's unclear whether this is a project the Weinstein's were allowed to keep the rights too when they left Miramax in 2005 or whether it would kick back to the recently gutted indie specialty label. Needless to say, parent company Disney would hardly be adverse to making a sequel to a series that has already grossed $332 million worldwide. Plus, the mammoth success of Basterds this summer ensures, at least for the time being, that Tarantino's reign in pop culture
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Oh, yeah, Keith! I admit to pausing the DVD the first time I saw the movie, for her. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 01:35:47 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Wow, you must be a fan! Who was the lady who was Lucy Lu's sidekick? The one who was half Asian and described as Dressed like a villain from Star Trek? I wish she'd been given more to do (i must admit because i couldn't stop staring at her) - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2009 1:47:55 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? It could definitely work and they could bring back Elle Driver, Sofie Fatale and Johnny Mo as her bitter, crippled masters. If they really wanted to rock our worlds they could actually have Vernita's daughter succeed and have the Bride's daughter taking up the sword and going after her. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: that could work... - Original Message - From: Justin Mohareb justinmoha...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 11:43:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Actually, I believe he mentioned using the actor who played her daughter in the first film, since she'll have actually grown into the role in the intervening decade and a half. I believe he mentioned filming scenes on an ongoing basis. Justin On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Damn! Now the guys have *me* doing it, but when I thought of Copperhead's daughter going after The Bride, my first thought was Rosario Dawson could pull off a kickass woman bent on revenge like nobody's business! Is she too old to play Copperhead's daughter only ten years from now? Sure...but this is Tarentino. I'm sure he could come up with some crazy excuse, and the incongruity of age could add a built in humour to heighten the camp factor. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , ggs...@... , Cinque3000 cinque3...@... , Sincere sincere1...@... Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 2:00:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? During promotion for the first two Kill Bill films, creator Quentin Tarantino hypothisized that he'd like to return for a third installment that would take place 10 years afterward the second film ended. Six years since Vol. 1 and a little over five years since Vol. 2, Tarantino has made waves by letting everyone know he hasn't abandoned his plan. Speaking during a press conference for Inglourious Basterds in Mexico on Saturday, Tarantino says he still plays to shoot Kill Bill 3 in or around 2014. According to Variety, the filmmaker said he'd shoot a different picture inbetween. He's currently contemplating a re-imagining of a number of genres including a Western or a '30's type gangster movie. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 ended with The Bride (Uma Thurman) reunited with her baby and all of her targets killed. Most speculate that Copperhead's daughter, who is spared in Vol. 1 would be the most likely protagonist now that she's all grown up and no doubt has revenge of her own on her mind. The Bill portion of the film would be difficult to incorporate even in flashbacks after David Carradine's death this past summer. More curious is who exactly would produce the feature? It's unclear whether this is a project the Weinstein's were allowed to keep the rights too when they left Miramax in 2005 or whether it would kick back to the recently gutted indie specialty label. Needless to say, parent company Disney would hardly be adverse to making a sequel to a series that has already grossed $332 million worldwide. Plus, the mammoth success of Basterds this summer ensures, at least for the time being, that Tarantino's reign in pop culture is hardly over. Thurman will be seen in theaters later this month in the romantic comedy Motherhood. More on this story as it develops on HitFix. Can you wait another 5 years for a third Kill Bill? Do you think it's still a good idea? http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009
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Thank you for that, B. I really didn't catch that in any of my viewings of the movie, because I was too busy LMNAO @ the circumstances. Martin (please remember -- sick and needing help) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:44:47 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? She was blinded but alive when we last saw her. They even leave it open by putting the ? in regards to her final fate. I heard it hinted at by QT himself that she survives her ordeal. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Didn't Elle over-cuddle with a snake or fourteen? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@... Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:47:55 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? It could definitely work and they could bring back Elle Driver, Sofie Fatale and Johnny Mo as her bitter, crippled masters. If they really wanted to rock our worlds they could actually have Vernita's daughter succeed and have the Bride's daughter taking up the sword and going after her. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: that could work... - Original Message - From: Justin Mohareb justinmohareb@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 11:43:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Actually, I believe he mentioned using the actor who played her daughter in the first film, since she'll have actually grown into the role in the intervening decade and a half. I believe he mentioned filming scenes on an ongoing basis. Justin On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Damn! Now the guys have *me* doing it, but when I thought of Copperhead's daughter going after The Bride, my first thought was Rosario Dawson could pull off a kickass woman bent on revenge like nobody's business! Is she too old to play Copperhead's daughter only ten years from now? Sure...but this is Tarentino. I'm sure he could come up with some crazy excuse, and the incongruity of age could add a built in humour to heighten the camp factor. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , ggszig@ , Cinque3000 cinque3000@ , Sincere sincere1906@ Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 2:00:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? During promotion for the first two Kill Bill films, creator Quentin Tarantino hypothisized that he'd like to return for a third installment that would take place 10 years afterward the second film ended. Six years since Vol. 1 and a little over five years since Vol. 2, Tarantino has made waves by letting everyone know he hasn't abandoned his plan. Speaking during a press conference for Inglourious Basterds in Mexico on Saturday, Tarantino says he still plays to shoot Kill Bill 3 in or around 2014. According to Variety, the filmmaker said he'd shoot a different picture inbetween. He's currently contemplating a re-imagining of a number of genres including a Western or a '30's type gangster movie. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 ended with The Bride (Uma Thurman) reunited with her baby and all of her targets killed. Most speculate that Copperhead's daughter, who is spared in Vol. 1 would be the most likely protagonist now that she's all grown up and no doubt has revenge of her own on her mind. The Bill portion of the film would be difficult to incorporate even in flashbacks after David Carradine's death this past summer. More curious is who exactly would produce the feature? It's unclear whether this is a project the Weinstein's were allowed to keep the rights too when they left Miramax in 2005 or whether it would kick back to the recently gutted indie specialty label. Needless to say, parent company Disney would
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It's really good, but let me ask you: does Tarantino ever go too far in his homages/copying of other genres for your taste? For example, I loved Kill Bill, but by the time the Bride and Lu's character were fighting in the garden, complete with the water thing going, I felt as if I were being hit over the head with homages. I guess it's one thing to have touches from other films in your movie, but Tarantino literally stuffs his films with those, and it's not very subtle. Not complaining, mind you. I've only seen two of his films, so don't know if his originality outshines his homages, or if he simply repackages the homages in a skillful enough way so that one doesn't mind. After all, there are very few original ideas in Hollywood, so recycling old themes isn't by itself a crime. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2009 9:35:27 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? That was Sofie Fatale. Julie Dreyfus also has a small but meaty role in Inglorious Basterds. *putting away my Japanese special edition boxed set of Kill Bill Vol. 1* I guess you can say I'm fan. The cinematic references, cameos and injokes from the movie are heaven for fans of Asian, Italian and 70s grindhouse cinema. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Wow, you must be a fan! Who was the lady who was Lucy Lu's sidekick? The one who was half Asian and described as Dressed like a villain from Star Trek? I wish she'd been given more to do (i must admit because i couldn't stop staring at her) - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2009 1:47:55 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? It could definitely work and they could bring back Elle Driver, Sofie Fatale and Johnny Mo as her bitter, crippled masters. If they really wanted to rock our worlds they could actually have Vernita's daughter succeed and have the Bride's daughter taking up the sword and going after her. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: that could work... - Original Message - From: Justin Mohareb justinmohareb@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 11:43:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Actually, I believe he mentioned using the actor who played her daughter in the first film, since she'll have actually grown into the role in the intervening decade and a half. I believe he mentioned filming scenes on an ongoing basis. Justin On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Damn! Now the guys have *me* doing it, but when I thought of Copperhead's daughter going after The Bride, my first thought was Rosario Dawson could pull off a kickass woman bent on revenge like nobody's business! Is she too old to play Copperhead's daughter only ten years from now? Sure...but this is Tarentino. I'm sure he could come up with some crazy excuse, and the incongruity of age could add a built in humour to heighten the camp factor. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , ggszig@ , Cinque3000 cinque3000@ , Sincere sincere1906@ Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 2:00:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? During promotion for the first two Kill Bill films, creator Quentin Tarantino hypothisized that he'd like to return for a third installment that would take place 10 years afterward the second film ended. Six years since Vol. 1 and a little over five years since Vol. 2, Tarantino has made waves by letting everyone know he hasn't abandoned his plan. Speaking during a press conference for Inglourious Basterds in Mexico on Saturday, Tarantino says he still plays to shoot Kill Bill 3 in or around 2014. According to Variety, the filmmaker said he'd shoot a different picture inbetween. He's currently contemplating a re-imagining of a number of genres including a Western or a '30's type gangster movie. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 ended with The Bride (Uma Thurman) reunited with her baby and all of her targets killed. Most speculate that Copperhead's daughter, who is spared in Vol. 1 would be the most likely protagonist now that she's all grown up and no doubt has revenge of her own on her mind. The Bill
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Nothing but truth in that. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:36:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? That is one of the problems that I have with American film making. We get the pretty people and not necessarily people that can really act. The best actors that we have are often the supporting actors or character actors. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: There are other actresses out there? ~rave? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: Ok, there are other actresses out there yall! Let someone else get famous! On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...wrote: Damn! Now the guys have *me* doing it, but when I thought of Copperhead's daughter going after The Bride, my first thought was Rosario Dawson could pull off a kickass woman bent on revenge like nobody's business! Is she too old to play Copperhead's daughter only ten years from now? Sure...but this is Tarentino. I'm sure he could come up with some crazy excuse, and the incongruity of age could add a built in humour to heighten the camp factor. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ggs...@..., Cinque3000 cinque3...@..., Sincere sincere1...@... Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 2:00:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? During promotion for the first two Kill Bill films, creator Quentin Tarantino hypothisized that he'd like to return for a third installment that would take place 10 years afterward the second film ended. Six years since Vol. 1 and a little over five years since Vol. 2, Tarantino has made waves by letting everyone know he hasn't abandoned his plan. Speaking during a press conference for Inglourious Basterds in Mexico on Saturday, Tarantino says he still plays to shoot Kill Bill 3 in or around 2014. According to Variety,http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118009525.html?categoryid=13cs=1the filmmaker said he'd shoot a different picture inbetween. He's currently contemplating a re-imagining of a number of genres including a Western or a '30's type gangster movie. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 ended with The Bride (Uma Thurman) reunited with her baby and all of her targets killed. Most speculate that Copperhead's daughter, who is spared in Vol. 1 would be the most likely protagonist now that she's all grown up and no doubt has revenge of her own on her mind. The Bill portion of the film would be difficult to incorporate even in flashbacks after David Carradine's death this past summer. More curious is who exactly would produce the feature? It's unclear whether this is a project the Weinstein's were allowed to keep the rights too when they left Miramax in 2005 or whether it would kick back to the recently gutted indie specialty label. Needless to say, parent company Disney would hardly be adverse to making a sequel to a series that has already grossed $332 million worldwide. Plus, the mammoth success of Basterds this summer ensures, at least for the time being, that Tarantino's reign in pop culture is hardly over. Thurman will be seen in theaters later this month in the romantic comedy Motherhood. http://www.hitfix.com/events/2009-6-28-motherhood More on this story as it develops on HitFix. * Can you wait another 5 years for a third Kill Bill? Do you think it's still a good idea? * http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-10-5-quentin-tarantino-confirms-kill-bill-vol-3-but-who-s-left-to-kill Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomypost.com tra...@... -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:scifinoir2-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com
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LMNAO rave, you mean that you didn't zoom in on the name the minute you opened the post? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 04:36:15 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Uh, did you write anything after Rosario Dawson? ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Damn! Now the guys have *me* doing it, but when I thought of Copperhead's daughter going after The Bride, my first thought was Rosario Dawson could pull off a kickass woman bent on revenge like nobody's business! Is she too old to play Copperhead's daughter only ten years from now? Sure...but this is Tarentino. I'm sure he could come up with some crazy excuse, and the incongruity of age could add a built in humour to heighten the camp factor. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ggs...@..., Cinque3000 cinque3...@..., Sincere sincere1...@... Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 2:00:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? During promotion for the first two Kill Bill films, creator Quentin Tarantino hypothisized that he'd like to return for a third installment that would take place 10 years afterward the second film ended. Six years since Vol. 1 and a little over five years since Vol. 2, Tarantino has made waves by letting everyone know he hasn't abandoned his plan. Speaking during a press conference for Inglourious Basterds in Mexico on Saturday, Tarantino says he still plays to shoot Kill Bill 3 in or around 2014. According to Variety, the filmmaker said he'd shoot a different picture inbetween. He's currently contemplating a re-imagining of a number of genres including a Western or a '30's type gangster movie. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 ended with The Bride (Uma Thurman) reunited with her baby and all of her targets killed. Most speculate that Copperhead's daughter, who is spared in Vol. 1 would be the most likely protagonist now that she's all grown up and no doubt has revenge of her own on her mind. The Bill portion of the film would be difficult to incorporate even in flashbacks after David Carradine's death this past summer. More curious is who exactly would produce the feature? It's unclear whether this is a project the Weinstein's were allowed to keep the rights too when they left Miramax in 2005 or whether it would kick back to the recently gutted indie specialty label. Needless to say, parent company Disney would hardly be adverse to making a sequel to a series that has already grossed $332 million worldwide. Plus, the mammoth success of Basterds this summer ensures, at least for the time being, that Tarantino's reign in pop culture is hardly over. Thurman will be seen in theaters later this month in the romantic comedy Motherhood. More on this story as it develops on HitFix. Can you wait another 5 years for a third Kill Bill? Do you think it's still a good idea? http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-10-5-quentin-tarantino-confirms-kill-bill-vol-3-but-who-s-left-to-kill Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomypost.com tra...@... _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/
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All of what you have written below is true but what does it have to do with Rosario Dawson? ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: That is one of the problems that I have with American film making. We get the pretty people and not necessarily people that can really act. The best actors that we have are often the supporting actors or character actors. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: There are other actresses out there? ~rave? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: Ok, there are other actresses out there yall! Let someone else get famous! On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@wrote: Damn! Now the guys have *me* doing it, but when I thought of Copperhead's daughter going after The Bride, my first thought was Rosario Dawson could pull off a kickass woman bent on revenge like nobody's business! Is she too old to play Copperhead's daughter only ten years from now? Sure...but this is Tarentino. I'm sure he could come up with some crazy excuse, and the incongruity of age could add a built in humour to heighten the camp factor. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ggszig@, Cinque3000 cinque3000@, Sincere sincere1906@ Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 2:00:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? During promotion for the first two Kill Bill films, creator Quentin Tarantino hypothisized that he'd like to return for a third installment that would take place 10 years afterward the second film ended. Six years since Vol. 1 and a little over five years since Vol. 2, Tarantino has made waves by letting everyone know he hasn't abandoned his plan. Speaking during a press conference for Inglourious Basterds in Mexico on Saturday, Tarantino says he still plays to shoot Kill Bill 3 in or around 2014. According to Variety, http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118009525.html?categoryid=13cs=1the filmmaker said he'd shoot a different picture inbetween. He's currently contemplating a re-imagining of a number of genres including a Western or a '30's type gangster movie. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 ended with The Bride (Uma Thurman) reunited with her baby and all of her targets killed. Most speculate that Copperhead's daughter, who is spared in Vol. 1 would be the most likely protagonist now that she's all grown up and no doubt has revenge of her own on her mind. The Bill portion of the film would be difficult to incorporate even in flashbacks after David Carradine's death this past summer. More curious is who exactly would produce the feature? It's unclear whether this is a project the Weinstein's were allowed to keep the rights too when they left Miramax in 2005 or whether it would kick back to the recently gutted indie specialty label. Needless to say, parent company Disney would hardly be adverse to making a sequel to a series that has already grossed $332 million worldwide. Plus, the mammoth success of Basterds this summer ensures, at least for the time being, that Tarantino's reign in pop culture is hardly over. Thurman will be seen in theaters later this month in the romantic comedy Motherhood. http://www.hitfix.com/events/2009-6-28-motherhood More on this story as it develops on HitFix. * Can you wait another 5 years for a third Kill Bill? Do you think it's still a good idea? * http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-10-5-quentin-tarantino-confirms-kill-bill-vol-3-but-who-s-left-to-kill Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomypost.com tracey@ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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ha-ha! - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2009 12:36:15 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Uh, did you write anything after Rosario Dawson? ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Damn! Now the guys have *me* doing it, but when I thought of Copperhead's daughter going after The Bride, my first thought was Rosario Dawson could pull off a kickass woman bent on revenge like nobody's business! Is she too old to play Copperhead's daughter only ten years from now? Sure...but this is Tarentino. I'm sure he could come up with some crazy excuse, and the incongruity of age could add a built in humour to heighten the camp factor. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , ggs...@..., Cinque3000 cinque3...@..., Sincere sincere1...@... Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 2:00:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? During promotion for the first two Kill Bill films, creator Quentin Tarantino hypothisized that he'd like to return for a third installment that would take place 10 years afterward the second film ended. Six years since Vol. 1 and a little over five years since Vol. 2, Tarantino has made waves by letting everyone know he hasn't abandoned his plan. Speaking during a press conference for Inglourious Basterds in Mexico on Saturday, Tarantino says he still plays to shoot Kill Bill 3 in or around 2014. According to Variety, the filmmaker said he'd shoot a different picture inbetween. He's currently contemplating a re-imagining of a number of genres including a Western or a '30's type gangster movie. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 ended with The Bride (Uma Thurman) reunited with her baby and all of her targets killed. Most speculate that Copperhead's daughter, who is spared in Vol. 1 would be the most likely protagonist now that she's all grown up and no doubt has revenge of her own on her mind. The Bill portion of the film would be difficult to incorporate even in flashbacks after David Carradine's death this past summer. More curious is who exactly would produce the feature? It's unclear whether this is a project the Weinstein's were allowed to keep the rights too when they left Miramax in 2005 or whether it would kick back to the recently gutted indie specialty label. Needless to say, parent company Disney would hardly be adverse to making a sequel to a series that has already grossed $332 million worldwide. Plus, the mammoth success of Basterds this summer ensures, at least for the time being, that Tarantino's reign in pop culture is hardly over. Thurman will be seen in theaters later this month in the romantic comedy Motherhood. More on this story as it develops on HitFix. Can you wait another 5 years for a third Kill Bill? Do you think it's still a good idea? http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-10-5-quentin-tarantino-confirms-kill-bill-vol-3-but-who-s-left-to-kill Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomypost.com tra...@...
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It could definitely work and they could bring back Elle Driver, Sofie Fatale and Johnny Mo as her bitter, crippled masters. If they really wanted to rock our worlds they could actually have Vernita's daughter succeed and have the Bride's daughter taking up the sword and going after her. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: that could work... - Original Message - From: Justin Mohareb justinmoha...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 11:43:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Actually, I believe he mentioned using the actor who played her daughter in the first film, since she'll have actually grown into the role in the intervening decade and a half. I believe he mentioned filming scenes on an ongoing basis. Justin On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Damn! Now the guys have *me* doing it, but when I thought of Copperhead's daughter going after The Bride, my first thought was Rosario Dawson could pull off a kickass woman bent on revenge like nobody's business! Is she too old to play Copperhead's daughter only ten years from now? Sure...but this is Tarentino. I'm sure he could come up with some crazy excuse, and the incongruity of age could add a built in humour to heighten the camp factor. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , ggs...@... , Cinque3000 cinque3...@... , Sincere sincere1...@... Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 2:00:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? During promotion for the first two Kill Bill films, creator Quentin Tarantino hypothisized that he'd like to return for a third installment that would take place 10 years afterward the second film ended. Six years since Vol. 1 and a little over five years since Vol. 2, Tarantino has made waves by letting everyone know he hasn't abandoned his plan. Speaking during a press conference for Inglourious Basterds in Mexico on Saturday, Tarantino says he still plays to shoot Kill Bill 3 in or around 2014. According to Variety, the filmmaker said he'd shoot a different picture inbetween. He's currently contemplating a re-imagining of a number of genres including a Western or a '30's type gangster movie. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 ended with The Bride (Uma Thurman) reunited with her baby and all of her targets killed. Most speculate that Copperhead's daughter, who is spared in Vol. 1 would be the most likely protagonist now that she's all grown up and no doubt has revenge of her own on her mind. The Bill portion of the film would be difficult to incorporate even in flashbacks after David Carradine's death this past summer. More curious is who exactly would produce the feature? It's unclear whether this is a project the Weinstein's were allowed to keep the rights too when they left Miramax in 2005 or whether it would kick back to the recently gutted indie specialty label. Needless to say, parent company Disney would hardly be adverse to making a sequel to a series that has already grossed $332 million worldwide. Plus, the mammoth success of Basterds this summer ensures, at least for the time being, that Tarantino's reign in pop culture is hardly over. Thurman will be seen in theaters later this month in the romantic comedy Motherhood. More on this story as it develops on HitFix. Can you wait another 5 years for a third Kill Bill? Do you think it's still a good idea? http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-10-5-quentin-tarantino-confirms-kill-bill-vol-3-but-who-s-left-to-kill Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomypost.com tra...@... -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com
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Didn't Elle over-cuddle with a snake or fourteen? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:47:55 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? It could definitely work and they could bring back Elle Driver, Sofie Fatale and Johnny Mo as her bitter, crippled masters. If they really wanted to rock our worlds they could actually have Vernita's daughter succeed and have the Bride's daughter taking up the sword and going after her. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: that could work... - Original Message - From: Justin Mohareb justinmoha...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 11:43:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Actually, I believe he mentioned using the actor who played her daughter in the first film, since she'll have actually grown into the role in the intervening decade and a half. I believe he mentioned filming scenes on an ongoing basis. Justin On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Damn! Now the guys have *me* doing it, but when I thought of Copperhead's daughter going after The Bride, my first thought was Rosario Dawson could pull off a kickass woman bent on revenge like nobody's business! Is she too old to play Copperhead's daughter only ten years from now? Sure...but this is Tarentino. I'm sure he could come up with some crazy excuse, and the incongruity of age could add a built in humour to heighten the camp factor. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , ggs...@... , Cinque3000 cinque3...@... , Sincere sincere1...@... Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 2:00:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? During promotion for the first two Kill Bill films, creator Quentin Tarantino hypothisized that he'd like to return for a third installment that would take place 10 years afterward the second film ended. Six years since Vol. 1 and a little over five years since Vol. 2, Tarantino has made waves by letting everyone know he hasn't abandoned his plan. Speaking during a press conference for Inglourious Basterds in Mexico on Saturday, Tarantino says he still plays to shoot Kill Bill 3 in or around 2014. According to Variety, the filmmaker said he'd shoot a different picture inbetween. He's currently contemplating a re-imagining of a number of genres including a Western or a '30's type gangster movie. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 ended with The Bride (Uma Thurman) reunited with her baby and all of her targets killed. Most speculate that Copperhead's daughter, who is spared in Vol. 1 would be the most likely protagonist now that she's all grown up and no doubt has revenge of her own on her mind. The Bill portion of the film would be difficult to incorporate even in flashbacks after David Carradine's death this past summer. More curious is who exactly would produce the feature? It's unclear whether this is a project the Weinstein's were allowed to keep the rights too when they left Miramax in 2005 or whether it would kick back to the recently gutted indie specialty label. Needless to say, parent company Disney would hardly be adverse to making a sequel to a series that has already grossed $332 million worldwide. Plus, the mammoth success of Basterds this summer ensures, at least for the time being, that Tarantino's reign in pop culture is hardly over. Thurman will be seen in theaters later this month in the romantic comedy Motherhood. More on this story as it develops on HitFix. Can you wait another 5 years for a third Kill Bill? Do you think it's still a good idea? http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-10-5-quentin-tarantino-confirms-kill-bill-vol-3-but-who-s-left-to-kill Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomypost.com tra...@... -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http
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Because people have a tendency of falling in love with a particular performer and the next thing you know they are in so many movies that you become sick of seeing that person. She is a lovely woman. Very easy on the eyes and she can act, but that may not make her the best choice for some parts. Nor should we burn her into over exposure. On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:24 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: All of what you have written below is true but what does it have to do with Rosario Dawson? ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: That is one of the problems that I have with American film making. We get the pretty people and not necessarily people that can really act. The best actors that we have are often the supporting actors or character actors. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: There are other actresses out there? ~rave? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote: Ok, there are other actresses out there yall! Let someone else get famous! On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@wrote: Damn! Now the guys have *me* doing it, but when I thought of Copperhead's daughter going after The Bride, my first thought was Rosario Dawson could pull off a kickass woman bent on revenge like nobody's business! Is she too old to play Copperhead's daughter only ten years from now? Sure...but this is Tarentino. I'm sure he could come up with some crazy excuse, and the incongruity of age could add a built in humour to heighten the camp factor. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ggszig@, Cinque3000 cinque3000@, Sincere sincere1906@ Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 2:00:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? During promotion for the first two Kill Bill films, creator Quentin Tarantino hypothisized that he'd like to return for a third installment that would take place 10 years afterward the second film ended. Six years since Vol. 1 and a little over five years since Vol. 2, Tarantino has made waves by letting everyone know he hasn't abandoned his plan. Speaking during a press conference for Inglourious Basterds in Mexico on Saturday, Tarantino says he still plays to shoot Kill Bill 3 in or around 2014. According to Variety, http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118009525.html?categoryid=13cs=1 the filmmaker said he'd shoot a different picture inbetween. He's currently contemplating a re-imagining of a number of genres including a Western or a '30's type gangster movie. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 ended with The Bride (Uma Thurman) reunited with her baby and all of her targets killed. Most speculate that Copperhead's daughter, who is spared in Vol. 1 would be the most likely protagonist now that she's all grown up and no doubt has revenge of her own on her mind. The Bill portion of the film would be difficult to incorporate even in flashbacks after David Carradine's death this past summer. More curious is who exactly would produce the feature? It's unclear whether this is a project the Weinstein's were allowed to keep the rights too when they left Miramax in 2005 or whether it would kick back to the recently gutted indie specialty label. Needless to say, parent company Disney would hardly be adverse to making a sequel to a series that has already grossed $332 million worldwide. Plus, the mammoth success of Basterds this summer ensures, at least for the time being, that Tarantino's reign in pop culture is hardly over. Thurman will be seen in theaters later this month in the romantic comedy Motherhood. http://www.hitfix.com/events/2009-6-28-motherhood More on this story as it develops on HitFix. * Can you wait another 5 years for a third Kill Bill? Do you think it's still a good idea? * http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-10-5-quentin-tarantino-confirms-kill-bill-vol-3-but-who-s-left-to-kill Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomypost.com tracey@ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo ! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to
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Wow, you must be a fan! Who was the lady who was Lucy Lu's sidekick? The one who was half Asian and described as Dressed like a villain from Star Trek? I wish she'd been given more to do (i must admit because i couldn't stop staring at her) - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2009 1:47:55 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? It could definitely work and they could bring back Elle Driver, Sofie Fatale and Johnny Mo as her bitter, crippled masters. If they really wanted to rock our worlds they could actually have Vernita's daughter succeed and have the Bride's daughter taking up the sword and going after her. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: that could work... - Original Message - From: Justin Mohareb justinmoha...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 11:43:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? Actually, I believe he mentioned using the actor who played her daughter in the first film, since she'll have actually grown into the role in the intervening decade and a half. I believe he mentioned filming scenes on an ongoing basis. Justin On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Damn! Now the guys have *me* doing it, but when I thought of Copperhead's daughter going after The Bride, my first thought was Rosario Dawson could pull off a kickass woman bent on revenge like nobody's business! Is she too old to play Copperhead's daughter only ten years from now? Sure...but this is Tarentino. I'm sure he could come up with some crazy excuse, and the incongruity of age could add a built in humour to heighten the camp factor. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , ggs...@... , Cinque3000 cinque3...@... , Sincere sincere1...@... Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 2:00:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? During promotion for the first two Kill Bill films, creator Quentin Tarantino hypothisized that he'd like to return for a third installment that would take place 10 years afterward the second film ended. Six years since Vol. 1 and a little over five years since Vol. 2, Tarantino has made waves by letting everyone know he hasn't abandoned his plan. Speaking during a press conference for Inglourious Basterds in Mexico on Saturday, Tarantino says he still plays to shoot Kill Bill 3 in or around 2014. According to Variety, the filmmaker said he'd shoot a different picture inbetween. He's currently contemplating a re-imagining of a number of genres including a Western or a '30's type gangster movie. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 ended with The Bride (Uma Thurman) reunited with her baby and all of her targets killed. Most speculate that Copperhead's daughter, who is spared in Vol. 1 would be the most likely protagonist now that she's all grown up and no doubt has revenge of her own on her mind. The Bill portion of the film would be difficult to incorporate even in flashbacks after David Carradine's death this past summer. More curious is who exactly would produce the feature? It's unclear whether this is a project the Weinstein's were allowed to keep the rights too when they left Miramax in 2005 or whether it would kick back to the recently gutted indie specialty label. Needless to say, parent company Disney would hardly be adverse to making a sequel to a series that has already grossed $332 million worldwide. Plus, the mammoth success of Basterds this summer ensures, at least for the time being, that Tarantino's reign in pop culture is hardly over. Thurman will be seen in theaters later this month in the romantic comedy Motherhood. More on this story as it develops on HitFix. Can you wait another 5 years for a third Kill Bill? Do you think it's still a good idea? http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-10-5-quentin-tarantino-confirms-kill-bill-vol-3-but-who-s-left-to-kill Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomypost.com tra...@... -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com
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There are other actresses out there? ~rave? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: Ok, there are other actresses out there yall! Let someone else get famous! On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...wrote: Damn! Now the guys have *me* doing it, but when I thought of Copperhead's daughter going after The Bride, my first thought was Rosario Dawson could pull off a kickass woman bent on revenge like nobody's business! Is she too old to play Copperhead's daughter only ten years from now? Sure...but this is Tarentino. I'm sure he could come up with some crazy excuse, and the incongruity of age could add a built in humour to heighten the camp factor. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ggs...@..., Cinque3000 cinque3...@..., Sincere sincere1...@... Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 2:00:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? During promotion for the first two Kill Bill films, creator Quentin Tarantino hypothisized that he'd like to return for a third installment that would take place 10 years afterward the second film ended. Six years since Vol. 1 and a little over five years since Vol. 2, Tarantino has made waves by letting everyone know he hasn't abandoned his plan. Speaking during a press conference for Inglourious Basterds in Mexico on Saturday, Tarantino says he still plays to shoot Kill Bill 3 in or around 2014. According to Variety,http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118009525.html?categoryid=13cs=1the filmmaker said he'd shoot a different picture inbetween. He's currently contemplating a re-imagining of a number of genres including a Western or a '30's type gangster movie. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 ended with The Bride (Uma Thurman) reunited with her baby and all of her targets killed. Most speculate that Copperhead's daughter, who is spared in Vol. 1 would be the most likely protagonist now that she's all grown up and no doubt has revenge of her own on her mind. The Bill portion of the film would be difficult to incorporate even in flashbacks after David Carradine's death this past summer. More curious is who exactly would produce the feature? It's unclear whether this is a project the Weinstein's were allowed to keep the rights too when they left Miramax in 2005 or whether it would kick back to the recently gutted indie specialty label. Needless to say, parent company Disney would hardly be adverse to making a sequel to a series that has already grossed $332 million worldwide. Plus, the mammoth success of Basterds this summer ensures, at least for the time being, that Tarantino's reign in pop culture is hardly over. Thurman will be seen in theaters later this month in the romantic comedy Motherhood. http://www.hitfix.com/events/2009-6-28-motherhood More on this story as it develops on HitFix. * Can you wait another 5 years for a third Kill Bill? Do you think it's still a good idea? * http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-10-5-quentin-tarantino-confirms-kill-bill-vol-3-but-who-s-left-to-kill Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomypost.com tra...@... -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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Uh, did you write anything after Rosario Dawson? ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Damn! Now the guys have *me* doing it, but when I thought of Copperhead's daughter going after The Bride, my first thought was Rosario Dawson could pull off a kickass woman bent on revenge like nobody's business! Is she too old to play Copperhead's daughter only ten years from now? Sure...but this is Tarentino. I'm sure he could come up with some crazy excuse, and the incongruity of age could add a built in humour to heighten the camp factor. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ggs...@..., Cinque3000 cinque3...@..., Sincere sincere1...@... Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 2:00:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? During promotion for the first two Kill Bill films, creator Quentin Tarantino hypothisized that he'd like to return for a third installment that would take place 10 years afterward the second film ended. Six years since Vol. 1 and a little over five years since Vol. 2, Tarantino has made waves by letting everyone know he hasn't abandoned his plan. Speaking during a press conference for Inglourious Basterds in Mexico on Saturday, Tarantino says he still plays to shoot Kill Bill 3 in or around 2014. According to Variety, the filmmaker said he'd shoot a different picture inbetween. He's currently contemplating a re-imagining of a number of genres including a Western or a '30's type gangster movie. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 ended with The Bride (Uma Thurman) reunited with her baby and all of her targets killed. Most speculate that Copperhead's daughter, who is spared in Vol. 1 would be the most likely protagonist now that she's all grown up and no doubt has revenge of her own on her mind. The Bill portion of the film would be difficult to incorporate even in flashbacks after David Carradine's death this past summer. More curious is who exactly would produce the feature? It's unclear whether this is a project the Weinstein's were allowed to keep the rights too when they left Miramax in 2005 or whether it would kick back to the recently gutted indie specialty label. Needless to say, parent company Disney would hardly be adverse to making a sequel to a series that has already grossed $332 million worldwide. Plus, the mammoth success of Basterds this summer ensures, at least for the time being, that Tarantino's reign in pop culture is hardly over. Thurman will be seen in theaters later this month in the romantic comedy Motherhood. More on this story as it develops on HitFix. Can you wait another 5 years for a third Kill Bill? Do you think it's still a good idea? http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-10-5-quentin-tarantino-confirms-kill-bill-vol-3-but-who-s-left-to-kill Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomypost.com tra...@...
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That is one of the problems that I have with American film making. We get the pretty people and not necessarily people that can really act. The best actors that we have are often the supporting actors or character actors. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: There are other actresses out there? ~rave? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: Ok, there are other actresses out there yall! Let someone else get famous! On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...wrote: Damn! Now the guys have *me* doing it, but when I thought of Copperhead's daughter going after The Bride, my first thought was Rosario Dawson could pull off a kickass woman bent on revenge like nobody's business! Is she too old to play Copperhead's daughter only ten years from now? Sure...but this is Tarentino. I'm sure he could come up with some crazy excuse, and the incongruity of age could add a built in humour to heighten the camp factor. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ggs...@..., Cinque3000 cinque3...@..., Sincere sincere1...@... Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 2:00:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Quentin Tarantino confirms 'Kill Bill, Vol. 3,' but who's left to kill? During promotion for the first two Kill Bill films, creator Quentin Tarantino hypothisized that he'd like to return for a third installment that would take place 10 years afterward the second film ended. Six years since Vol. 1 and a little over five years since Vol. 2, Tarantino has made waves by letting everyone know he hasn't abandoned his plan. Speaking during a press conference for Inglourious Basterds in Mexico on Saturday, Tarantino says he still plays to shoot Kill Bill 3 in or around 2014. According to Variety, http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118009525.html?categoryid=13cs=1the filmmaker said he'd shoot a different picture inbetween. He's currently contemplating a re-imagining of a number of genres including a Western or a '30's type gangster movie. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 ended with The Bride (Uma Thurman) reunited with her baby and all of her targets killed. Most speculate that Copperhead's daughter, who is spared in Vol. 1 would be the most likely protagonist now that she's all grown up and no doubt has revenge of her own on her mind. The Bill portion of the film would be difficult to incorporate even in flashbacks after David Carradine's death this past summer. More curious is who exactly would produce the feature? It's unclear whether this is a project the Weinstein's were allowed to keep the rights too when they left Miramax in 2005 or whether it would kick back to the recently gutted indie specialty label. Needless to say, parent company Disney would hardly be adverse to making a sequel to a series that has already grossed $332 million worldwide. Plus, the mammoth success of Basterds this summer ensures, at least for the time being, that Tarantino's reign in pop culture is hardly over. Thurman will be seen in theaters later this month in the romantic comedy Motherhood. http://www.hitfix.com/events/2009-6-28-motherhood More on this story as it develops on HitFix. * Can you wait another 5 years for a third Kill Bill? Do you think it's still a good idea? * http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-10-5-quentin-tarantino-confirms-kill-bill-vol-3-but-who-s-left-to-kill Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomypost.com tra...@... -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
