[scifinoir2] Re: Why the hatred for Jaden Smith?
Also, Gleiberman totally overreacts to the situation. Maybe he feels compelled to defend his review of the movie?
[scifinoir2] Re: Why the hatred for Jaden Smith?
"We" (that would be the American we) hate Jaden Smith because of the implication that his career is being handed to him. "We" generally hate that in all professions from politics to business, and especially in Hollywood because of it's reputation for advancement going along lines of who you know, not what you know/can do. Only in sports, which has a rep for earned merit, do "we" not begrudge successful scions of famous fathers/mothers. Yes, if his films/projects fail it wont have anything to do with his parents but that really isn't the point. He isn't helping matters with his constant B-boy stance-ing and mean mugging for cameras and having hair that is ridiculed regularly on Bossip, etc. He really made himself that much more annoying before setting out to prove himself as a talent. I was dead set against seeing the remake for all the usual reasons + Jaden however the previews turned me. I think Chan's "serious" acting is underrated so I get a chance to see that w/out having to resort to region 3 DVD. Resultingly I'll be forced to give young Smith a shot. > What has amazed me is the amount of BLACK hatred towards Jaden. We keep > hating on young people who are doing good work, and we wonder why the > majority of young people wanna stay under-achievers. > See above, esp. the part abt his hair.
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ahar...@earthlink.net Thanks for that info! I'm still insulted that Hollywood thinks Americans are too stupid to get the difference between Karate and Kung-Fu! Amy +1 Informative. ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Kelwyn wrote: In this instance the filmmakers have crossed their "t"s and dotted their "i"s. The film is known as "The Kung Fu Kid" internationally and "Best Kid" in Japan. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Amy Harlib" wrote: > > > ahar...@... > I'm really looking forward to seeing this film. I liked the trailers and I love Jackie Chan. I hate the title. The story has nothing to do with Karate which is a Japanese thing. > It is about kung-fu and China! This film's title insults billions of Chinese people all over the world that Hollywood is so greedy to sell tickets by exploiting the Karate Kid franchise that they think folks are too stupid to tell the difference between Karate and Kung-fu? > All those slanty-eyed Asians are all alike, eh? Typical Hollywood willful ignorance. They could have correctly and accurately called this film Kung-Fu Kid and with Jackie Chan's name on it, sold just as many tickets I bet! > > I'll still go for Jackie Chan, if nothing else. > > Amy > > > > > > It's not Jaden. It's his parents. The world hates his parents but worship money too much to say it to their faces. > > > Generation X and early Y are under-achievers. We coin phrases like "underwhelm". Will and Jada do what they say they're gonna do. Collectively, we don't like that. And so yeah, they're gonna be hatred towards BOTH kids. Wait till Willow's album drops. > > > > What has amazed me is the amount of BLACK hatred towards Jaden. We keep hating on young people who are doing good work, and we wonder why the majority of young people wanna stay under-achievers. > > > > > > > On Jun 21, 2010, at 10:26 AM, ravenadal wrote: > > > > http://movie-critics.ew.com/2010/06/18/why-the-hatred-for-jaden-smith/ > > What is Jaden Smith's crime? Last weekend, the up-and-coming young actor, who will turn 12 this July 8, starred in a remake of The Karate Kid that audiences flocked to beyond expectation and, from all available evidence, loved. Given that Smith is front and center in more or less every frame of the 2 hour and 20 minute movie (and given that his performance, as a kid who hides his sadness behind a mask of surliness, is — to this critic, at least — a magnetic and affecting piece of acting), I hope we can all agree that Jaden Smith's presence on screen had a little something to do with the movie's success. Yet Smith's rise has been greeted, in far too many quarters (including a number of comment boards on ew.com, like the one on my review), with bitter, gnashing resentment. This 11-year-old really has the haters foaming. > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/
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+1 Informative. ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > In this instance the filmmakers have crossed their "t"s and dotted their > "i"s. The film is known as "The Kung Fu Kid" internationally and "Best Kid" > in Japan. > > ~rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Amy Harlib" wrote: > > > > > > ahar...@... > > I'm really looking forward to seeing this film. I liked the trailers and > I love Jackie Chan. I hate the title. The story has nothing to do with > Karate which is a Japanese thing. > > It is about kung-fu and China! This film's title insults billions of > Chinese people all over the world that Hollywood is so greedy to sell > tickets by exploiting the Karate Kid franchise that they think folks are too > stupid to tell the difference between Karate and Kung-fu? > > All those slanty-eyed Asians are all alike, eh? Typical Hollywood > willful ignorance. They could have correctly and accurately called this > film Kung-Fu Kid and with Jackie Chan's name on it, sold just as many > tickets I bet! > > > > I'll still go for Jackie Chan, if nothing else. > > > > Amy > > > > > > > > > > > > It's not Jaden. It's his parents. The world hates his parents but > worship money too much to say it to their faces. > > > > > > Generation X and early Y are under-achievers. We coin phrases like > "underwhelm". Will and Jada do what they say they're gonna do. > Collectively, we don't like that. And so yeah, they're gonna be hatred > towards BOTH kids. Wait till Willow's album drops. > > > > > > > > What has amazed me is the amount of BLACK hatred towards Jaden. We keep > hating on young people who are doing good work, and we wonder why the > majority of young people wanna stay under-achievers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 21, 2010, at 10:26 AM, ravenadal wrote: > > > > > > > > http://movie-critics.ew.com/2010/06/18/why-the-hatred-for-jaden-smith/ > > > > What is Jaden Smith's crime? Last weekend, the up-and-coming young > actor, who will turn 12 this July 8, starred in a remake of The Karate Kid > that audiences flocked to beyond expectation and, from all available > evidence, loved. Given that Smith is front and center in more or less every > frame of the 2 hour and 20 minute movie (and given that his performance, as > a kid who hides his sadness behind a mask of surliness, is — to this critic, > at least — a magnetic and affecting piece of acting), I hope we can all > agree that Jaden Smith's presence on screen had a little something to do > with the movie's success. Yet Smith's rise has been greeted, in far too many > quarters (including a number of comment boards on ew.com, like the one on > my review), with bitter, gnashing resentment. This 11-year-old really has > the haters foaming. > > > > > > > > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! > Groups Links > > > >
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After reading through a few of the comments on the original article, I was struck by how many people seem to say specifically that they like Will Smith, but dislike Jada Pinkett-Smith and dislike the kid because he looks like her. Actually, they won't name her. They just call her "his mother." That seems scary, but somehow typical. Jaden, in the Letterman interview, says that the name is a nod to the producer of the original film because of the help, and stamp of approval he gave them. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > In this instance the filmmakers have crossed their "t"s and dotted their > "i"s. The film is known as "The Kung Fu Kid" internationally and "Best Kid" > in Japan. > > ~rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , "Amy > Harlib" wrote: > > > > > > ahar...@... > > I'm really looking forward to seeing this film. I liked the trailers and > I love Jackie Chan. I hate the title. The story has nothing to do with > Karate which is a Japanese thing. > > It is about kung-fu and China! This film's title insults billions of > Chinese people all over the world that Hollywood is so greedy to sell > tickets by exploiting the Karate Kid franchise that they think folks are too > stupid to tell the difference between Karate and Kung-fu? > > All those slanty-eyed Asians are all alike, eh? Typical Hollywood willful > ignorance. They could have correctly and accurately called this film Kung-Fu > Kid and with Jackie Chan's name on it, sold just as many tickets I bet! > > > > I'll still go for Jackie Chan, if nothing else. > > > > Amy > > > > > > > > > > > > It's not Jaden. It's his parents. The world hates his parents but worship > money too much to say it to their faces. > > > > > > Generation X and early Y are under-achievers. We coin phrases like > "underwhelm". Will and Jada do what they say they're gonna do. Collectively, > we don't like that. And so yeah, they're gonna be hatred towards BOTH kids. > Wait till Willow's album drops. > > > > > > > > What has amazed me is the amount of BLACK hatred towards Jaden. We keep > hating on young people who are doing good work, and we wonder why the > majority of young people wanna stay under-achievers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 21, 2010, at 10:26 AM, ravenadal wrote: > > > > > > > > http://movie-critics.ew.com/2010/06/18/why-the-hatred-for-jaden-smith/ > > > > What is Jaden Smith's crime? Last weekend, the up-and-coming young actor, > who will turn 12 this July 8, starred in a remake of The Karate Kid that > audiences flocked to beyond expectation and, from all available evidence, > loved. Given that Smith is front and center in more or less every frame of > the 2 hour and 20 minute movie (and given that his performance, as a kid who > hides his sadness behind a mask of surliness, is — to this critic, at least > — a magnetic and affecting piece of acting), I hope we can all agree that > Jaden Smith's presence on screen had a little something to do with the > movie's success. Yet Smith's rise has been greeted, in far too many quarters > (including a number of comment boards on ew.com, like the one on my > review), with bitter, gnashing resentment. This 11-year-old really has the > haters foaming. > > > > >
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After reading through a few of the comments on the original article, I was struck by how many people seem to say specifically that they like Will Smith, but dislike Jada Pinkett-Smith and dislike the kid because he looks like her. Actually, they won't name her. They just call her "his mother." That seems scary, but somehow typical. Jaden, in the Letterman interview, says that the name is a nod to the producer of the original film because of the help, and stamp of approval he gave them. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > In this instance the filmmakers have crossed their "t"s and dotted their > "i"s. The film is known as "The Kung Fu Kid" internationally and "Best Kid" > in Japan. > > ~rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , "Amy > Harlib" wrote: > > > > > > ahar...@... > > I'm really looking forward to seeing this film. I liked the trailers and > I love Jackie Chan. I hate the title. The story has nothing to do with > Karate which is a Japanese thing. > > It is about kung-fu and China! This film's title insults billions of > Chinese people all over the world that Hollywood is so greedy to sell > tickets by exploiting the Karate Kid franchise that they think folks are too > stupid to tell the difference between Karate and Kung-fu? > > All those slanty-eyed Asians are all alike, eh? Typical Hollywood willful > ignorance. They could have correctly and accurately called this film Kung-Fu > Kid and with Jackie Chan's name on it, sold just as many tickets I bet! > > > > I'll still go for Jackie Chan, if nothing else. > > > > Amy > > > > > > > > > > > > It's not Jaden. It's his parents. The world hates his parents but worship > money too much to say it to their faces. > > > > > > Generation X and early Y are under-achievers. We coin phrases like > "underwhelm". Will and Jada do what they say they're gonna do. Collectively, > we don't like that. And so yeah, they're gonna be hatred towards BOTH kids. > Wait till Willow's album drops. > > > > > > > > What has amazed me is the amount of BLACK hatred towards Jaden. We keep > hating on young people who are doing good work, and we wonder why the > majority of young people wanna stay under-achievers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 21, 2010, at 10:26 AM, ravenadal wrote: > > > > > > > > http://movie-critics.ew.com/2010/06/18/why-the-hatred-for-jaden-smith/ > > > > What is Jaden Smith's crime? Last weekend, the up-and-coming young actor, > who will turn 12 this July 8, starred in a remake of The Karate Kid that > audiences flocked to beyond expectation and, from all available evidence, > loved. Given that Smith is front and center in more or less every frame of > the 2 hour and 20 minute movie (and given that his performance, as a kid who > hides his sadness behind a mask of surliness, is — to this critic, at least > — a magnetic and affecting piece of acting), I hope we can all agree that > Jaden Smith's presence on screen had a little something to do with the > movie's success. Yet Smith's rise has been greeted, in far too many quarters > (including a number of comment boards on ew.com, like the one on my > review), with bitter, gnashing resentment. This 11-year-old really has the > haters foaming. > > > > >
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Additionally, the reason they switched back to Karate Kid title in the US was because of the story. He originally knew Karate and had no hope of winning with that style. Jackie's character trains him in Kung Fu. On Jun 21, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Kelwyn wrote: In this instance the filmmakers have crossed their "t"s and dotted their "i"s. The film is known as "The Kung Fu Kid" internationally and "Best Kid" in Japan. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Amy Harlib" wrote: > > > ahar...@... > I'm really looking forward to seeing this film. I liked the trailers and I love Jackie Chan. I hate the title. The story has nothing to do with Karate which is a Japanese thing. > It is about kung-fu and China! This film's title insults billions of Chinese people all over the world that Hollywood is so greedy to sell tickets by exploiting the Karate Kid franchise that they think folks are too stupid to tell the difference between Karate and Kung- fu? > All those slanty-eyed Asians are all alike, eh? Typical Hollywood willful ignorance. They could have correctly and accurately called this film Kung-Fu Kid and with Jackie Chan's name on it, sold just as many tickets I bet! > > I'll still go for Jackie Chan, if nothing else. > > Amy > > > > > > It's not Jaden. It's his parents. The world hates his parents but worship money too much to say it to their faces. > > > Generation X and early Y are under-achievers. We coin phrases like "underwhelm". Will and Jada do what they say they're gonna do. Collectively, we don't like that. And so yeah, they're gonna be hatred towards BOTH kids. Wait till Willow's album drops. > > > > What has amazed me is the amount of BLACK hatred towards Jaden. We keep hating on young people who are doing good work, and we wonder why the majority of young people wanna stay under-achievers. > > > > > > > On Jun 21, 2010, at 10:26 AM, ravenadal wrote: > > > > http://movie-critics.ew.com/2010/06/18/why-the-hatred-for-jaden- smith/ > > What is Jaden Smith's crime? Last weekend, the up-and-coming young actor, who will turn 12 this July 8, starred in a remake of The Karate Kid that audiences flocked to beyond expectation and, from all available evidence, loved. Given that Smith is front and center in more or less every frame of the 2 hour and 20 minute movie (and given that his performance, as a kid who hides his sadness behind a mask of surliness, is — to this critic, at least — a magnetic and affecting piece of acting), I hope we can all agree that Jaden Smith's presence on screen had a little something to do with the movie's success. Yet Smith's rise has been greeted, in far too many quarters (including a number of comment boards on ew.com, like the one on my review), with bitter, gnashing resentment. This 11-year-old really has the haters foaming. >
[scifinoir2] Re: Why the hatred for Jaden Smith?
In this instance the filmmakers have crossed their "t"s and dotted their "i"s. The film is known as "The Kung Fu Kid" internationally and "Best Kid" in Japan. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Amy Harlib" wrote: > > > ahar...@... > I'm really looking forward to seeing this film. I liked the trailers and I > love Jackie Chan. I hate the title. The story has nothing to do with Karate > which is a Japanese thing. > It is about kung-fu and China! This film's title insults billions of Chinese > people all over the world that Hollywood is so greedy to sell tickets by > exploiting the Karate Kid franchise that they think folks are too stupid to > tell the difference between Karate and Kung-fu? > All those slanty-eyed Asians are all alike, eh? Typical Hollywood willful > ignorance. They could have correctly and accurately called this film Kung-Fu > Kid and with Jackie Chan's name on it, sold just as many tickets I bet! > > I'll still go for Jackie Chan, if nothing else. > > Amy > > > > > > It's not Jaden. It's his parents. The world hates his parents but worship > money too much to say it to their faces. > > > Generation X and early Y are under-achievers. We coin phrases like > "underwhelm". Will and Jada do what they say they're gonna do. > Collectively, we don't like that. And so yeah, they're gonna be hatred > towards BOTH kids. Wait till Willow's album drops. > > > > What has amazed me is the amount of BLACK hatred towards Jaden. We keep > hating on young people who are doing good work, and we wonder why the > majority of young people wanna stay under-achievers. > > > > > > > On Jun 21, 2010, at 10:26 AM, ravenadal wrote: > > > > http://movie-critics.ew.com/2010/06/18/why-the-hatred-for-jaden-smith/ > > What is Jaden Smith's crime? Last weekend, the up-and-coming young actor, > who will turn 12 this July 8, starred in a remake of The Karate Kid that > audiences flocked to beyond expectation and, from all available evidence, > loved. Given that Smith is front and center in more or less every frame of > the 2 hour and 20 minute movie (and given that his performance, as a kid who > hides his sadness behind a mask of surliness, is to this critic, at least > a magnetic and affecting piece of acting), I hope we can all agree that Jaden > Smith's presence on screen had a little something to do with the movie's > success. Yet Smith's rise has been greeted, in far too many quarters > (including a number of comment boards on ew.com, like the one on my review), > with bitter, gnashing resentment. This 11-year-old really has the haters > foaming. >
