RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think?
That would be a nightmare. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:45:44 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think it's like anything else: you can't learn it if you don't practice. I see no need to soften accents, dialects, idioms, or cultural phrases. That's how you learn about other cultures. Man, I certainly hope this shrinking globe due to tech doesn't mean the whole Earth will become a bland, American-sounding whitewashed landscape. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:20:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Mr Worf, the thought of that depresses me no end. I don't have problems with UK accents, because I ahve so many friends from there. I understand the inherent problems that others might have, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin (Philip Glenister), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker (Zoe Tapper), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon (Richard Wilson) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip (Mackenzie Crook), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip (Martin Hancock); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel (Rick English); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs (Kevin McNally), who bears a deep and personal grudge against a member of the team. Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now
Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think?
I think that can happen at some point in the near future because there is so much of a cultural exchange that we will end up sounding like the most dominant culture. On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: That would be a nightmare. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:45:44 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think it's like anything else: you can't learn it if you don't practice. I see no need to soften accents, dialects, idioms, or cultural phrases. That's how you learn about other cultures. Man, I certainly hope this shrinking globe due to tech doesn't mean the whole Earth will become a bland, American-sounding whitewashed landscape. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:20:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Mr Worf, the thought of that depresses me no end. I don't have problems with UK accents, because I ahve so many friends from there. I understand the inherent problems that others might have, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin (*Philip Glenister*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker (*Zoe Tapper* http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon (*Richard Wilson*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip (*Mackenzie Crook*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip (*Martin Hancock*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel (*Rick English* http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs (*Kevin McNally*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos
RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think?
I did not like it. It’s okay for background, but I could not get into it From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:46 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Philip Glenister), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Zoe Tapper), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Richard Wilson) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Mackenzie Crook), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Martin Hancock); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Rick English); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Kevin McNally), who bears a deep and personal grudge against a member of the team.
Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think?
I will probably watch it today since my dvr made the decision to delete half of the things that I recorded yesterday. Good thing that it was movies that I wasn't totally interested in seeing. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin (*Philip Glenister*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker (*Zoe Tapper* http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon (*Richard Wilson*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip (*Mackenzie Crook*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip (*Martin Hancock*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel (*Rick English* http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs (*Kevin McNally*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), who bears a deep and personal grudge against a member of the team. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think?
Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin (Philip Glenister), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker (Zoe Tapper), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon (Richard Wilson) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip (Mackenzie Crook), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip (Martin Hancock); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel (Rick English); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs (Kevin McNally), who bears a deep and personal grudge against a member of the team. _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/
Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think?
I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin (*Philip Glenister*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker (*Zoe Tapper* http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon (*Richard Wilson*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip (*Mackenzie Crook*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip (*Martin Hancock*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel (*Rick English* http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs (*Kevin McNally*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), who bears a deep and personal grudge against a member of the team. -- Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think?
Mr Worf, the thought of that depresses me no end. I don't have problems with UK accents, because I ahve so many friends from there. I understand the inherent problems that others might have, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin (Philip Glenister), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker (Zoe Tapper), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon (Richard Wilson) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip (Mackenzie Crook), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip (Martin Hancock); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel (Rick English); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs (Kevin McNally), who bears a deep and personal grudge against a member of the team. Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/
Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think?
The show Life on Mars suggested at the beginning that you turn on the closed captions. Sometimes you do need it with folks with a very thick accent. I think that they are careful to be universal English though. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, the thought of that depresses me no end. I don't have problems with UK accents, because I ahve so many friends from there. I understand the inherent problems that others might have, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin (*Philip Glenister*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker (*Zoe Tapper* http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon (*Richard Wilson*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip (*Mackenzie Crook*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip (*Martin Hancock*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel (*Rick English* http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs (*Kevin McNally*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), who bears a deep and personal grudge against a member of the team. -- Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think?
Well and succinctly put. Same here. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:33:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I did not like it. It’s okay for background, but I could not get into it From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:46 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin ( Philip Glenister ), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker ( Zoe Tapper ), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon ( Richard Wilson ) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip ( Mackenzie Crook ), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip ( Martin Hancock ); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel ( Rick English ); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs ( Kevin McNally ), who bears a deep and personal grudge against a member of the team.
RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think?
I read comparisons of Buffy, but at best they are a wannabe. I thought the show about the girls in boarding school where one was a ghost and the other was mating with satan came closer…Next. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:47 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Well and succinctly put. Same here. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:33:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I did not like it. It’s okay for background, but I could not get into it From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:46 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Philip Glenister), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Zoe Tapper), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Richard Wilson) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Mackenzie Crook), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Martin Hancock); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Rick English); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Kevin McNally), who bears a deep and personal grudge against a member of the team.
Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think?
I think it's like anything else: you can't learn it if you don't practice. I see no need to soften accents, dialects, idioms, or cultural phrases. That's how you learn about other cultures. Man, I certainly hope this shrinking globe due to tech doesn't mean the whole Earth will become a bland, American-sounding whitewashed landscape. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:20:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Mr Worf, the thought of that depresses me no end. I don't have problems with UK accents, because I ahve so many friends from there. I understand the inherent problems that others might have, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin ( Philip Glenister ), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker ( Zoe Tapper ), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon ( Richard Wilson ) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip ( Mackenzie Crook ), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip ( Martin Hancock ); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel ( Rick English ); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs ( Kevin McNally ), who bears a deep and personal grudge against a member of the team. Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.
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Speaking of, Life on Mars--the original BBC version--is being rerun on PBS. I'm assuming that's nationwide? I caught it last week. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:28:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? The show Life on Mars suggested at the beginning that you turn on the closed captions. Sometimes you do need it with folks with a very thick accent. I think that they are careful to be universal English though. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Mr Worf, the thought of that depresses me no end. I don't have problems with UK accents, because I ahve so many friends from there. I understand the inherent problems that others might have, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin ( Philip Glenister ), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker ( Zoe Tapper ), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon ( Richard Wilson ) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip ( Mackenzie Crook ), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip ( Martin Hancock ); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel ( Rick English ); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs ( Kevin McNally ), who bears a deep and personal grudge against a member of the team. Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think?
We are all going to be speaking Chinese. Just kidding …sort of. I almost enrolled my daughter at an International Language Immersion school. We were going to have her do immersion in Chinese with classes in Spanish and Italian. I’m sure woe would have followed through, but she was a year to late. I think that part of Firefly got it right. I think China is may be likely to have a bigger impact on the world than the US From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:46 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think it's like anything else: you can't learn it if you don't practice. I see no need to soften accents, dialects, idioms, or cultural phrases. That's how you learn about other cultures. Man, I certainly hope this shrinking globe due to tech doesn't mean the whole Earth will become a bland, American-sounding whitewashed landscape. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:20:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Mr Worf, the thought of that depresses me no end. I don't have problems with UK accents, because I ahve so many friends from there. I understand the inherent problems that others might have, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Philip Glenister), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Zoe Tapper), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Richard Wilson) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Mackenzie Crook), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Martin Hancock); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Rick English); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs ( http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp Kevin McNally), who bears a deep and personal
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Yea, its on here too. Some of the shows that they have on pretty good. If you want to see something unusual check out the UK version of Law and Order. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Speaking of, Life on Mars--the original BBC version--is being rerun on PBS. I'm assuming that's nationwide? I caught it last week. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:28:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? The show Life on Mars suggested at the beginning that you turn on the closed captions. Sometimes you do need it with folks with a very thick accent. I think that they are careful to be universal English though. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Mr Worf, the thought of that depresses me no end. I don't have problems with UK accents, because I ahve so many friends from there. I understand the inherent problems that others might have, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin (*Philip Glenister*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker (*Zoe Tapper* http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon (*Richard Wilson*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip (*Mackenzie Crook * http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip (*Martin Hancock*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel (*Rick English* http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs (*Kevin McNally*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), who bears a deep and personal grudge against a member of the team. -- Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group
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Hmm maybe the visitors are Chinese from the future? On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: We are all going to be speaking Chinese. Just kidding …sort of. I almost enrolled my daughter at an International Language Immersion school. We were going to have her do immersion in Chinese with classes in Spanish and Italian. I’m sure woe would have followed through, but she was a year to late. I think that part of Firefly got it right. I think China is may be likely to have a bigger impact on the world than the US *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Keith Johnson *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:46 PM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think it's like anything else: you can't learn it if you don't practice. I see no need to soften accents, dialects, idioms, or cultural phrases. That's how you learn about other cultures. Man, I certainly hope this shrinking globe due to tech doesn't mean the whole Earth will become a bland, American-sounding whitewashed landscape. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:20:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Mr Worf, the thought of that depresses me no end. I don't have problems with UK accents, because I ahve so many friends from there. I understand the inherent problems that others might have, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin (*Philip Glenister*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker (*Zoe Tapper* http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon (*Richard Wilson*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip (*Mackenzie Crook*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip (*Martin Hancock*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s
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I'd forgotten about that one. That held promise. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:26:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I read comparisons of Buffy, but at best they are a wannabe. I thought the show about the girls in boarding school where one was a ghost and the other was mating with satan came closer…Next. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:47 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Well and succinctly put. Same here. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:33:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I did not like it. It’s okay for background, but I could not get into it From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:46 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin ( Philip Glenister ), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker ( Zoe Tapper ), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon ( Richard Wilson ) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip ( Mackenzie Crook ), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip ( Martin Hancock ); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel ( Rick English ); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs ( Kevin McNally ), who bears a deep and personal grudge against a member of the team.
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Ridley Scott had the same thought when he populated the future world of LA (?) with so many Asians in Bladerunner. He said he thought about what country and ethnic group might grow to have more influence on the world in the future. It came down to Latinoes (thanks to the major influx of legal and illegal immigrants) and the Chinese. He decided on the Chinese, which is why they're everywhere in the movie. Didn't Deckert mention that even that street language all good cops speak was a pigdin that was in large part Chinese. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:03:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? We are all going to be speaking Chinese. Just kidding …sort of. I almost enrolled my daughter at an International Language Immersion school. We were going to have her do immersion in Chinese with classes in Spanish and Italian. I’m sure woe would have followed through, but she was a year to late. I think that part of Firefly got it right. I think China is may be likely to have a bigger impact on the world than the US From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:46 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think it's like anything else: you can't learn it if you don't practice. I see no need to soften accents, dialects, idioms, or cultural phrases. That's how you learn about other cultures. Man, I certainly hope this shrinking globe due to tech doesn't mean the whole Earth will become a bland, American-sounding whitewashed landscape. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:20:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Mr Worf, the thought of that depresses me no end. I don't have problems with UK accents, because I ahve so many friends from there. I understand the inherent problems that others might have, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin ( Philip Glenister ), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker ( Zoe Tapper ), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon ( Richard Wilson ) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths
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Check out Children of Men extras on the DVD. They go into the future migrations and changes to the US and Europe. One of the things that can happen is a large influx of Africans into Europe (which is already happening). There is a large influx of Asians into the US and Canada happening right now. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Ridley Scott had the same thought when he populated the future world of LA (?) with so many Asians in Bladerunner. He said he thought about what country and ethnic group might grow to have more influence on the world in the future. It came down to Latinoes (thanks to the major influx of legal and illegal immigrants) and the Chinese. He decided on the Chinese, which is why they're everywhere in the movie. Didn't Deckert mention that even that street language all good cops speak was a pigdin that was in large part Chinese. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:03:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? We are all going to be speaking Chinese. Just kidding …sort of. I almost enrolled my daughter at an International Language Immersion school. We were going to have her do immersion in Chinese with classes in Spanish and Italian. I’m sure woe would have followed through, but she was a year to late. I think that part of Firefly got it right. I think China is may be likely to have a bigger impact on the world than the US *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Keith Johnson *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:46 PM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think it's like anything else: you can't learn it if you don't practice. I see no need to soften accents, dialects, idioms, or cultural phrases. That's how you learn about other cultures. Man, I certainly hope this shrinking globe due to tech doesn't mean the whole Earth will become a bland, American-sounding whitewashed landscape. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:20:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Mr Worf, the thought of that depresses me no end. I don't have problems with UK accents, because I ahve so many friends from there. I understand the inherent problems that others might have, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin (*Philip Glenister*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do
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PBS is also rerunning one of my favs, the show MI5 (called Spooks in the UK). When and where is the UK Law and Order playing? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:13:41 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Yea, its on here too. Some of the shows that they have on pretty good. If you want to see something unusual check out the UK version of Law and Order. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Speaking of, Life on Mars--the original BBC version--is being rerun on PBS. I'm assuming that's nationwide? I caught it last week. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:28:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? The show Life on Mars suggested at the beginning that you turn on the closed captions. Sometimes you do need it with folks with a very thick accent. I think that they are careful to be universal English though. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Mr Worf, the thought of that depresses me no end. I don't have problems with UK accents, because I ahve so many friends from there. I understand the inherent problems that others might have, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin ( Philip Glenister ), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker ( Zoe Tapper ), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon ( Richard Wilson ) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip ( Mackenzie Crook ), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip ( Martin Hancock ); a “type 9” child-snatching demon-in-angel’s clothing called Gilgamel ( Rick English ); and the half-man half-rat Mr. Tibbs ( Kevin McNally ), who bears a deep and personal grudge against a member of the team. Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now
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Here in Microsoft country, there are almost as many Asians (mostly Chinese and Indians) as there are Whites in some areas. There are more Asians here than African Americans and Latinos. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:26 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Check out Children of Men extras on the DVD. They go into the future migrations and changes to the US and Europe. One of the things that can happen is a large influx of Africans into Europe (which is already happening). There is a large influx of Asians into the US and Canada happening right now. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Ridley Scott had the same thought when he populated the future world of LA (?) with so many Asians in Bladerunner. He said he thought about what country and ethnic group might grow to have more influence on the world in the future. It came down to Latinoes (thanks to the major influx of legal and illegal immigrants) and the Chinese. He decided on the Chinese, which is why they're everywhere in the movie. Didn't Deckert mention that even that street language all good cops speak was a pigdin that was in large part Chinese. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:03:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? We are all going to be speaking Chinese. Just kidding …sort of. I almost enrolled my daughter at an International Language Immersion school. We were going to have her do immersion in Chinese with classes in Spanish and Italian. I’m sure woe would have followed through, but she was a year to late. I think that part of Firefly got it right. I think China is may be likely to have a bigger impact on the world than the US From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:46 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think it's like anything else: you can't learn it if you don't practice. I see no need to soften accents, dialects, idioms, or cultural phrases. That's how you learn about other cultures. Man, I certainly hope this shrinking globe due to tech doesn't mean the whole Earth will become a bland, American-sounding whitewashed landscape. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:20:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Mr Worf, the thought of that depresses me no end. I don't have problems with UK accents, because I ahve so many friends from there. I understand the inherent problems that others might have, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin ( http
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Someone sent me a download of the show a few months ago. It has all of the same markings as the American show except for the law process and the courtroom scenes. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: PBS is also rerunning one of my favs, the show MI5 (called Spooks in the UK). When and where is the UK Law and Order playing? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:13:41 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Yea, its on here too. Some of the shows that they have on pretty good. If you want to see something unusual check out the UK version of Law and Order. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Speaking of, Life on Mars--the original BBC version--is being rerun on PBS. I'm assuming that's nationwide? I caught it last week. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:28:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? The show Life on Mars suggested at the beginning that you turn on the closed captions. Sometimes you do need it with folks with a very thick accent. I think that they are careful to be universal English though. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Mr Worf, the thought of that depresses me no end. I don't have problems with UK accents, because I ahve so many friends from there. I understand the inherent problems that others might have, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can handle tonal shifts in a single show better than anyone, so maybe I'll give it a chance. But so far, no one really drew me in. http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/index.jsp On the surface Luke Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is every bit the average teenager, but with the arrival of his dead father’s best friend Rupert Galvin (*Philip Glenister*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), Luke’s life is about to change. Galvin has come to inform Luke that his father’s death fifteen years ago wasn’t an accident, and that he holds a secret destiny as the great-great grandson of Abraham Van Helsing, the vampire hunter in Bram Stoker’s Dracula. Now Luke must carry the torch and do battle against the inhumans and the freaks that walk among us, but he must keep it all hidden and maintain his normal life as a son and a student. To train Luke in his quest, Galvin calls on the beautiful but icy Mina Harker (*Zoe Tapper*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), a blind concert pianist with a history. She also happens to be the foremost authority on the undesirable entities preying on humanity. The sinister and moldering Father Simeon (*Richard Wilson*http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp) is Luke’s other counselor on the lore and myths behind the creatures he faces. Luke’s first opponent is the villainous Gladiolus Thrip (*Mackenzie Crook* http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/391/whos-who.jsp), a “type 12” vampire with a burning hatred for the Van Helsing line. The list of terrifying adversaries grows with the cockroach-munching “type 5” called Redlip (*Martin Hancock*http
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My friend got married in Tacoma a while back and the entire wedding was interracial. Very interesting to see 50 interracial couples and their descendants. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Here in Microsoft country, there are almost as many Asians (mostly Chinese and Indians) as there are Whites in some areas. There are more Asians here than African Americans and Latinos. *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mr. Worf *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:26 PM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Check out Children of Men extras on the DVD. They go into the future migrations and changes to the US and Europe. One of the things that can happen is a large influx of Africans into Europe (which is already happening). There is a large influx of Asians into the US and Canada happening right now. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Ridley Scott had the same thought when he populated the future world of LA (?) with so many Asians in Bladerunner. He said he thought about what country and ethnic group might grow to have more influence on the world in the future. It came down to Latinoes (thanks to the major influx of legal and illegal immigrants) and the Chinese. He decided on the Chinese, which is why they're everywhere in the movie. Didn't Deckert mention that even that street language all good cops speak was a pigdin that was in large part Chinese. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:03:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? We are all going to be speaking Chinese. Just kidding …sort of. I almost enrolled my daughter at an International Language Immersion school. We were going to have her do immersion in Chinese with classes in Spanish and Italian. I’m sure woe would have followed through, but she was a year to late. I think that part of Firefly got it right. I think China is may be likely to have a bigger impact on the world than the US *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Keith Johnson *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:46 PM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think it's like anything else: you can't learn it if you don't practice. I see no need to soften accents, dialects, idioms, or cultural phrases. That's how you learn about other cultures. Man, I certainly hope this shrinking globe due to tech doesn't mean the whole Earth will become a bland, American-sounding whitewashed landscape. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:20:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Mr Worf, the thought of that depresses me no end. I don't have problems with UK accents, because I ahve so many friends from there. I understand the inherent problems that others might have, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who finale? I wasn't really overwhelmed with it. It had some good moments, but the plot seemed a bit rushed. I also couldn't quite get the tone right; or, I couldn't tell if it was going to be serious, scary adult drama, or toned down a bit to apply to a younger crowd. Of course, the British can
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The other interesting thing is to see two mommies and two daddies at parents teachers event. Kids very nonchalantly use the term, my two mommies. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:40 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? My friend got married in Tacoma a while back and the entire wedding was interracial. Very interesting to see 50 interracial couples and their descendants. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Here in Microsoft country, there are almost as many Asians (mostly Chinese and Indians) as there are Whites in some areas. There are more Asians here than African Americans and Latinos. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:26 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Check out Children of Men extras on the DVD. They go into the future migrations and changes to the US and Europe. One of the things that can happen is a large influx of Africans into Europe (which is already happening). There is a large influx of Asians into the US and Canada happening right now. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Ridley Scott had the same thought when he populated the future world of LA (?) with so many Asians in Bladerunner. He said he thought about what country and ethnic group might grow to have more influence on the world in the future. It came down to Latinoes (thanks to the major influx of legal and illegal immigrants) and the Chinese. He decided on the Chinese, which is why they're everywhere in the movie. Didn't Deckert mention that even that street language all good cops speak was a pigdin that was in large part Chinese. - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:03:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? We are all going to be speaking Chinese. Just kidding …sort of. I almost enrolled my daughter at an International Language Immersion school. We were going to have her do immersion in Chinese with classes in Spanish and Italian. I’m sure woe would have followed through, but she was a year to late. I think that part of Firefly got it right. I think China is may be likely to have a bigger impact on the world than the US From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:46 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think it's like anything else: you can't learn it if you don't practice. I see no need to soften accents, dialects, idioms, or cultural phrases. That's how you learn about other cultures. Man, I certainly hope this shrinking globe due to tech doesn't mean the whole Earth will become a bland, American-sounding whitewashed landscape. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:20:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Mr Worf, the thought of that depresses me no end. I don't have problems with UK accents, because I ahve so many friends from there. I understand the inherent problems that others might have, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:17:33 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? I think that it was so it would appeal more to Americans. They do a lot of stuff like that in marketing. That's why most of the BBC America shows have softer accents so the Americans can understand them. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Same here, Keith. I'm watching it, but with only one eye. Still trying to puzzle out why they had to make Philip Glenister's character American. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:46:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Demons on BBC America - What did you think? Did anyone catch the premier of this show a couple of weeks ago, after the Dr. Who
