RE: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data
Now that you mention it... he did say that he was a music entrepreneur. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:22:50 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data He went old school because it is untraceable. DVDs, internet, cellphones etc. all leave traceable markers. He probably made a bunch of tapes and they have been releasing them like new Tu Pac albums. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Must've been one of the early ones because, as I've been saying since 2002, the man's dead. He was on dialysis, twice a week if memory serves. If the Guv'mint wanted to find him, they could've put a hard-target search on portable dialysis machines and nailed him within a month. And this has been the Digital Era for some time now, yet he's still churning out VHS tapes. Could understand that, if he were poor like me. Man's a frelling billionaire. He can't afford a MacBook with a built-in webcam and DVD-burn software? "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:27:07 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data They did get close in one of the videos that they he made, but until I have the feeling that we will never know one way or the other. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Instead, he advertises his deeds to anyone willing to listen. He felt pretty secure that the Guv'mint couldn't find him. And he may have a point. Nine years of chasing Osama bin DeadMan... "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:33:51 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data That is scary! That is the kind of stuff that nightmares are made of. He would have to be hunted down and eliminated with extreme prejudice. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Mr Worf, I've met a few of those hackers, back in my early online days, when I frequented a site run by hackers. One even hacked into the Pentagon database, made himself an admiral. Even had the documentation sent to him, wherever he was living (this was back when the Iron Curtain still hung). "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:39:34 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data The Russian mob has a lot of good hackers so that is a definite possibility. Some were in the KGB and others were straight out of the Russian equivalent of MIT. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Forgive me. I'm old-school, still think in terms of nations. Give it to the Russkies. They would see it as entrepreneurisn. (sp?) "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:06:49 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data I didn't mean governments. I meant hackers. Most of the problems that we have had with viruses etc. have been coming from those countries from anti-american hackers. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Weirdly enough, I'm going with the Brits. If the Chinese owned it, then they'd already be wavign around our nuclear launch codes. If it were the Russkies, the same thing. If it had been the Mossad, then they would've used it to wipe out Iran. Don't know how the Germans would use it, really. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charl
Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data
He went old school because it is untraceable. DVDs, internet, cellphones etc. all leave traceable markers. He probably made a bunch of tapes and they have been releasing them like new Tu Pac albums. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > Must've been one of the early ones because, as I've been saying since 2002, > the man's dead. He was on dialysis, twice a week if memory serves. If the > Guv'mint wanted to find him, they could've put a hard-target search on > portable dialysis machines and nailed him within a month. And this has been > the Digital Era for some time now, yet he's still churning out VHS tapes. > Could understand that, if he were poor like me. Man's a frelling > billionaire. He can't afford a MacBook with a built-in webcam and DVD-burn > software? > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > -- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:27:07 -0800 > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data > > > They did get close in one of the videos that they he made, but until I > have the feeling that we will never know one way or the other. > > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Martin Baxter > wrote: > > > > Instead, he advertises his deeds to anyone willing to listen. He felt > pretty secure that the Guv'mint couldn't find him. And he may have a point. > Nine years of chasing Osama bin DeadMan... > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > -- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:33:51 -0800 > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data > > > That is scary! That is the kind of stuff that nightmares are made of. He > would have to be hunted down and eliminated with extreme prejudice. > > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Martin Baxter > wrote: > > > > Mr Worf, I've met a few of those hackers, back in my early online days, > when I frequented a site run by hackers. One even hacked into the Pentagon > database, made himself an admiral. Even had the documentation sent to him, > wherever he was living (this was back when the Iron Curtain still hung). > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > -- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:39:34 -0800 > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data > > > The Russian mob has a lot of good hackers so that is a definite > possibility. Some were in the KGB and others were straight out of the > Russian equivalent of MIT. > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Martin Baxter > wrote: > > > > Forgive me. I'm old-school, still think in terms of nations. Give it to the > Russkies. They would see it as entrepreneurisn. (sp?) > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > -- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:06:49 -0800 > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data > > > I didn't mean governments. I meant hackers. Most of the problems that we > have had with viruses etc. have been coming from those countries from > anti-american hackers. > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Martin Baxter > wrote: > > > > Weirdly enough, I'm going with the Brits. If the Chinese owned it, then > they'd already be wavign around our nuclear launch codes. If it were the > Russkies, the same thing. If it had been the Mossad, then they would've used > it to wipe out Iran. Don't know how the Germans would use it, really. > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > -- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogr
RE: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data
Must've been one of the early ones because, as I've been saying since 2002, the man's dead. He was on dialysis, twice a week if memory serves. If the Guv'mint wanted to find him, they could've put a hard-target search on portable dialysis machines and nailed him within a month. And this has been the Digital Era for some time now, yet he's still churning out VHS tapes. Could understand that, if he were poor like me. Man's a frelling billionaire. He can't afford a MacBook with a built-in webcam and DVD-burn software? "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:27:07 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data They did get close in one of the videos that they he made, but until I have the feeling that we will never know one way or the other. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Instead, he advertises his deeds to anyone willing to listen. He felt pretty secure that the Guv'mint couldn't find him. And he may have a point. Nine years of chasing Osama bin DeadMan... "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:33:51 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data That is scary! That is the kind of stuff that nightmares are made of. He would have to be hunted down and eliminated with extreme prejudice. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Mr Worf, I've met a few of those hackers, back in my early online days, when I frequented a site run by hackers. One even hacked into the Pentagon database, made himself an admiral. Even had the documentation sent to him, wherever he was living (this was back when the Iron Curtain still hung). "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:39:34 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data The Russian mob has a lot of good hackers so that is a definite possibility. Some were in the KGB and others were straight out of the Russian equivalent of MIT. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Forgive me. I'm old-school, still think in terms of nations. Give it to the Russkies. They would see it as entrepreneurisn. (sp?) "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:06:49 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data I didn't mean governments. I meant hackers. Most of the problems that we have had with viruses etc. have been coming from those countries from anti-american hackers. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Weirdly enough, I'm going with the Brits. If the Chinese owned it, then they'd already be wavign around our nuclear launch codes. If it were the Russkies, the same thing. If it had been the Mossad, then they would've used it to wipe out Iran. Don't know how the Germans would use it, really. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:51:16 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data Depends on who owns the bot. Is it the chinese? The russian mob? the Israelis? The germans? The brits? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Kelwyn wrote: http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2010/02/18/20100218botnet-computer-virus.html SAN FRANCISCO - Security experts have found a network of 74,000 virus-infected computers that stole information from inside corporations and government agencies. The unusual thing about the incident is not that it happened but that it wa
Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data
They did get close in one of the videos that they he made, but until I have the feeling that we will never know one way or the other. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > Instead, he advertises his deeds to anyone willing to listen. He felt > pretty secure that the Guv'mint couldn't find him. And he may have a point. > Nine years of chasing Osama bin DeadMan... > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > -- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:33:51 -0800 > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data > > > That is scary! That is the kind of stuff that nightmares are made of. He > would have to be hunted down and eliminated with extreme prejudice. > > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Martin Baxter > wrote: > > > > Mr Worf, I've met a few of those hackers, back in my early online days, > when I frequented a site run by hackers. One even hacked into the Pentagon > database, made himself an admiral. Even had the documentation sent to him, > wherever he was living (this was back when the Iron Curtain still hung). > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > -- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:39:34 -0800 > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data > > > The Russian mob has a lot of good hackers so that is a definite > possibility. Some were in the KGB and others were straight out of the > Russian equivalent of MIT. > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Martin Baxter > wrote: > > > > Forgive me. I'm old-school, still think in terms of nations. Give it to the > Russkies. They would see it as entrepreneurisn. (sp?) > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > -- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:06:49 -0800 > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data > > > I didn't mean governments. I meant hackers. Most of the problems that we > have had with viruses etc. have been coming from those countries from > anti-american hackers. > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Martin Baxter > wrote: > > > > Weirdly enough, I'm going with the Brits. If the Chinese owned it, then > they'd already be wavign around our nuclear launch codes. If it were the > Russkies, the same thing. If it had been the Mossad, then they would've used > it to wipe out Iran. Don't know how the Germans would use it, really. > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > -- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@gmail.com > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:51:16 -0800 > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data > > > Depends on who owns the bot. Is it the chinese? The russian mob? the > Israelis? The germans? The brits? > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2010/02/18/20100218botnet-computer-virus.html > > SAN FRANCISCO - Security experts have found a network of 74,000 > virus-infected computers that stole information from inside corporations and > government agencies. The unusual thing about the incident is not that it > happened but that it was discovered, and it is a reminder of the dangers of > having computers with sensitive data connected to the open Internet. > > More than 2,400 organizations, including financial institutions and energy > companies and federal agencies, were infiltrated by the "botnet," according > to the NetWitness Corp. security firm, which discovered it. > > > > > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! > Groups Links > > > > > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diver
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Instead, he advertises his deeds to anyone willing to listen. He felt pretty secure that the Guv'mint couldn't find him. And he may have a point. Nine years of chasing Osama bin DeadMan... "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:33:51 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data That is scary! That is the kind of stuff that nightmares are made of. He would have to be hunted down and eliminated with extreme prejudice. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Mr Worf, I've met a few of those hackers, back in my early online days, when I frequented a site run by hackers. One even hacked into the Pentagon database, made himself an admiral. Even had the documentation sent to him, wherever he was living (this was back when the Iron Curtain still hung). "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:39:34 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data The Russian mob has a lot of good hackers so that is a definite possibility. Some were in the KGB and others were straight out of the Russian equivalent of MIT. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Forgive me. I'm old-school, still think in terms of nations. Give it to the Russkies. They would see it as entrepreneurisn. (sp?) "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:06:49 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data I didn't mean governments. I meant hackers. Most of the problems that we have had with viruses etc. have been coming from those countries from anti-american hackers. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Weirdly enough, I'm going with the Brits. If the Chinese owned it, then they'd already be wavign around our nuclear launch codes. If it were the Russkies, the same thing. If it had been the Mossad, then they would've used it to wipe out Iran. Don't know how the Germans would use it, really. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:51:16 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data Depends on who owns the bot. Is it the chinese? The russian mob? the Israelis? The germans? The brits? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Kelwyn wrote: http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2010/02/18/20100218botnet-computer-virus.html SAN FRANCISCO - Security experts have found a network of 74,000 virus-infected computers that stole information from inside corporations and government agencies. The unusual thing about the incident is not that it happened but that it was discovered, and it is a reminder of the dangers of having computers with sensitive data connected to the open Internet. More than 2,400 organizations, including financial institutions and energy companies and federal agencies, were infiltrated by the "botnet," according to the NetWitness Corp. security firm, which discovered it. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) scifinoir2-dig...@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- Celebrating 10 ye
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That is scary! That is the kind of stuff that nightmares are made of. He would have to be hunted down and eliminated with extreme prejudice. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > Mr Worf, I've met a few of those hackers, back in my early online days, > when I frequented a site run by hackers. One even hacked into the Pentagon > database, made himself an admiral. Even had the documentation sent to him, > wherever he was living (this was back when the Iron Curtain still hung). > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > -- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:39:34 -0800 > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data > > > The Russian mob has a lot of good hackers so that is a definite > possibility. Some were in the KGB and others were straight out of the > Russian equivalent of MIT. > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Martin Baxter > wrote: > > > > Forgive me. I'm old-school, still think in terms of nations. Give it to the > Russkies. They would see it as entrepreneurisn. (sp?) > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > -- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:06:49 -0800 > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data > > > I didn't mean governments. I meant hackers. Most of the problems that we > have had with viruses etc. have been coming from those countries from > anti-american hackers. > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Martin Baxter > wrote: > > > > Weirdly enough, I'm going with the Brits. If the Chinese owned it, then > they'd already be wavign around our nuclear launch codes. If it were the > Russkies, the same thing. If it had been the Mossad, then they would've used > it to wipe out Iran. Don't know how the Germans would use it, really. > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > -- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@gmail.com > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:51:16 -0800 > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data > > > Depends on who owns the bot. Is it the chinese? The russian mob? the > Israelis? The germans? The brits? > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2010/02/18/20100218botnet-computer-virus.html > > SAN FRANCISCO - Security experts have found a network of 74,000 > virus-infected computers that stole information from inside corporations and > government agencies. The unusual thing about the incident is not that it > happened but that it was discovered, and it is a reminder of the dangers of > having computers with sensitive data connected to the open Internet. > > More than 2,400 organizations, including financial institutions and energy > companies and federal agencies, were infiltrated by the "botnet," according > to the NetWitness Corp. security firm, which discovered it. > > > > > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! > Groups Links > > > > > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > -- > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up > now.<http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/> > > > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > -- > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up > now.<http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/> > > > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > -- > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it > now.<http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/> > > > -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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Mr Worf, I've met a few of those hackers, back in my early online days, when I frequented a site run by hackers. One even hacked into the Pentagon database, made himself an admiral. Even had the documentation sent to him, wherever he was living (this was back when the Iron Curtain still hung). "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:39:34 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data The Russian mob has a lot of good hackers so that is a definite possibility. Some were in the KGB and others were straight out of the Russian equivalent of MIT. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Forgive me. I'm old-school, still think in terms of nations. Give it to the Russkies. They would see it as entrepreneurisn. (sp?) "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:06:49 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data I didn't mean governments. I meant hackers. Most of the problems that we have had with viruses etc. have been coming from those countries from anti-american hackers. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Weirdly enough, I'm going with the Brits. If the Chinese owned it, then they'd already be wavign around our nuclear launch codes. If it were the Russkies, the same thing. If it had been the Mossad, then they would've used it to wipe out Iran. Don't know how the Germans would use it, really. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:51:16 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data Depends on who owns the bot. Is it the chinese? The russian mob? the Israelis? The germans? The brits? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Kelwyn wrote: http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2010/02/18/20100218botnet-computer-virus.html SAN FRANCISCO - Security experts have found a network of 74,000 virus-infected computers that stole information from inside corporations and government agencies. The unusual thing about the incident is not that it happened but that it was discovered, and it is a reminder of the dangers of having computers with sensitive data connected to the open Internet. More than 2,400 organizations, including financial institutions and energy companies and federal agencies, were infiltrated by the "botnet," according to the NetWitness Corp. security firm, which discovered it. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) scifinoir2-dig...@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/
Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data
The Russian mob has a lot of good hackers so that is a definite possibility. Some were in the KGB and others were straight out of the Russian equivalent of MIT. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > Forgive me. I'm old-school, still think in terms of nations. Give it to the > Russkies. They would see it as entrepreneurisn. (sp?) > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > -- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:06:49 -0800 > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data > > > I didn't mean governments. I meant hackers. Most of the problems that we > have had with viruses etc. have been coming from those countries from > anti-american hackers. > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Martin Baxter > wrote: > > > > Weirdly enough, I'm going with the Brits. If the Chinese owned it, then > they'd already be wavign around our nuclear launch codes. If it were the > Russkies, the same thing. If it had been the Mossad, then they would've used > it to wipe out Iran. Don't know how the Germans would use it, really. > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > -- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@gmail.com > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:51:16 -0800 > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data > > > Depends on who owns the bot. Is it the chinese? The russian mob? the > Israelis? The germans? The brits? > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2010/02/18/20100218botnet-computer-virus.html > > SAN FRANCISCO - Security experts have found a network of 74,000 > virus-infected computers that stole information from inside corporations and > government agencies. The unusual thing about the incident is not that it > happened but that it was discovered, and it is a reminder of the dangers of > having computers with sensitive data connected to the open Internet. > > More than 2,400 organizations, including financial institutions and energy > companies and federal agencies, were infiltrated by the "botnet," according > to the NetWitness Corp. security firm, which discovered it. > > > > > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! > Groups Links > > > > > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > -- > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up > now.<http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/> > > > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > -- > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up > now.<http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/> > > > -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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Forgive me. I'm old-school, still think in terms of nations. Give it to the Russkies. They would see it as entrepreneurisn. (sp?) "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:06:49 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data I didn't mean governments. I meant hackers. Most of the problems that we have had with viruses etc. have been coming from those countries from anti-american hackers. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Weirdly enough, I'm going with the Brits. If the Chinese owned it, then they'd already be wavign around our nuclear launch codes. If it were the Russkies, the same thing. If it had been the Mossad, then they would've used it to wipe out Iran. Don't know how the Germans would use it, really. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:51:16 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data Depends on who owns the bot. Is it the chinese? The russian mob? the Israelis? The germans? The brits? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Kelwyn wrote: http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2010/02/18/20100218botnet-computer-virus.html SAN FRANCISCO - Security experts have found a network of 74,000 virus-infected computers that stole information from inside corporations and government agencies. The unusual thing about the incident is not that it happened but that it was discovered, and it is a reminder of the dangers of having computers with sensitive data connected to the open Internet. More than 2,400 organizations, including financial institutions and energy companies and federal agencies, were infiltrated by the "botnet," according to the NetWitness Corp. security firm, which discovered it. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) scifinoir2-dig...@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/
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I didn't mean governments. I meant hackers. Most of the problems that we have had with viruses etc. have been coming from those countries from anti-american hackers. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > Weirdly enough, I'm going with the Brits. If the Chinese owned it, then > they'd already be wavign around our nuclear launch codes. If it were the > Russkies, the same thing. If it had been the Mossad, then they would've used > it to wipe out Iran. Don't know how the Germans would use it, really. > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > -- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@gmail.com > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:51:16 -0800 > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data > > > Depends on who owns the bot. Is it the chinese? The russian mob? the > Israelis? The germans? The brits? > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2010/02/18/20100218botnet-computer-virus.html > > SAN FRANCISCO - Security experts have found a network of 74,000 > virus-infected computers that stole information from inside corporations and > government agencies. The unusual thing about the incident is not that it > happened but that it was discovered, and it is a reminder of the dangers of > having computers with sensitive data connected to the open Internet. > > More than 2,400 organizations, including financial institutions and energy > companies and federal agencies, were infiltrated by the "botnet," according > to the NetWitness Corp. security firm, which discovered it. > > > > > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! > Groups Links > > > > > > > -- > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > -- > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up > now.<http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/> > > > -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data
Weirdly enough, I'm going with the Brits. If the Chinese owned it, then they'd already be wavign around our nuclear launch codes. If it were the Russkies, the same thing. If it had been the Mossad, then they would've used it to wipe out Iran. Don't know how the Germans would use it, really. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:51:16 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data Depends on who owns the bot. Is it the chinese? The russian mob? the Israelis? The germans? The brits? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Kelwyn wrote: http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2010/02/18/20100218botnet-computer-virus.html SAN FRANCISCO - Security experts have found a network of 74,000 virus-infected computers that stole information from inside corporations and government agencies. The unusual thing about the incident is not that it happened but that it was discovered, and it is a reminder of the dangers of having computers with sensitive data connected to the open Internet. More than 2,400 organizations, including financial institutions and energy companies and federal agencies, were infiltrated by the "botnet," according to the NetWitness Corp. security firm, which discovered it. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) scifinoir2-dig...@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/
Re: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data
Depends on who owns the bot. Is it the chinese? The russian mob? the Israelis? The germans? The brits? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Kelwyn wrote: > > http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2010/02/18/20100218botnet-computer-virus.html > > SAN FRANCISCO - Security experts have found a network of 74,000 > virus-infected computers that stole information from inside corporations and > government agencies. The unusual thing about the incident is not that it > happened but that it was discovered, and it is a reminder of the dangers of > having computers with sensitive data connected to the open Internet. > > More than 2,400 organizations, including financial institutions and energy > companies and federal agencies, were infiltrated by the "botnet," according > to the NetWitness Corp. security firm, which discovered it. > > > > > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! > Groups Links > > > > -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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A drug company, a member of the Insurance Cartel and an H'Wood studio... who says that viruses are a bad thing? ;-) "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 17:11:41 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Giant Botnet steals data http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2010/02/18/20100218botnet-computer-virus.html SAN FRANCISCO - Security experts have found a network of 74,000 virus-infected computers that stole information from inside corporations and government agencies. The unusual thing about the incident is not that it happened but that it was discovered, and it is a reminder of the dangers of having computers with sensitive data connected to the open Internet. More than 2,400 organizations, including financial institutions and energy companies and federal agencies, were infiltrated by the "botnet," according to the NetWitness Corp. security firm, which discovered it. _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/
