RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe
Tracey, I don't know if it was the Senator's shuttle, because I didn't get enough of a glance at it. As soon as I can, I intend to re-view it online. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:45:28 -0700 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe That’s what I thought at first. Was it the Senator’s shuttle and did reviving the ship trigger something with his pod? It’s a conundrum From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:39 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe The ship looked a lot like the one that the senator died in. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I need to take a gander again at it. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:22:43 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, it looked like the undamaged shuttle. Admittedly, my glance was brief. Tried to stretch myself to rewatch it at 11:00, but I faded. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:26:51 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Was that a shuttle craft leaving the ship, or was it perhaps one of the ship's probes or automated gate-building devices? I know its mission is to gather information and build additional gates along the way. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:40:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe They didn't show what was on the other side of the gate. Also if you noticed the last 10 seconds of the show a shuttle craft left the ship. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I thought the two who went to the other gate died. Do you thing that the lived? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:06 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is sort of suspense light. Its an ok show though. I'm interested in how they are going to develop the girl's powers. Flashforward is interesting to me, but at this point, everyone's visions have been coming true. Why do they still doubt it? On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube.I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate
RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe
Keith, Last week, someone here (apologies for the inability to give due credit, owing to memory issues) posted the story that Stephen Hawking was stepping down from the Lucasian Chair at Cambridge. I mentioned that, aside from his positing the Chronology Protection Conjecture, I was copacetic with much of his work. The CPC states, basically, that time travel, even if theoretically possible, can't be done in reality, because the Cosmos Herself would move to prevent any action to be taken based on time travel. That, thinking on it, may be the case here. (To my disgust. Needless to say, I want to disprove that in the worst way, darn the cnsequences.) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:56:50 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe The whole concept of predicting the future is a strange one. Why have the power to see the future if it can't be changed, i.e., would it be better to see possible futures instead of certain ones? Does seeing the future if it's immutable only mean it prepares you for what's coming, e.g., if you see the death of a loved one, you can prepare for it ahead of time? And in that case, does seeing the future change the past? Would you not have, say, told that loved one how much she meant to you had you not seen her death coming, or was it always fated to be? Makes me crazy, but to me proves that time can't be linear, but must be circular or omnidirectional, because perhaps the future, the present (what actions you take because you've seen that future) and the past (actions taken that lead to you being able to see that future) all take place at the same time. Maybe time isn't linear, but a singularity, a point in which everything that ever was, is, or will be is happening right now--we just can't perceive it. Don't know. I do know that, when you have those discussions about what super power you'd like to have, the ability to see the future isn't usually on my list. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:26:19 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe How true! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:32:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Well said! But also, it must be remembered that even if some things have come true, not all of them must come true. Especially when one tries to ascribe some higher meaning to the flash forward, as in, is the Universe warning you of something coming so you can change it? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 7:26:05 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Mr Worf, regarding why many on FlashForward still won't accept the reality of the visions -- humans seem to have a difficult time accepting what's right in front of them. Case in point -- President Barack Obama. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:06:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is sort of suspense light. Its an ok show though. I'm interested in how they are going to develop the girl's powers. Flashforward is interesting to me, but at this point, everyone's visions have been coming true. Why do
Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe
I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is sort of suspense light. Its an ok show though. I'm interested in how they are going to develop the girl's powers. Flashforward is interesting to me, but at this point, everyone's visions have been coming true. Why do they still doubt it? On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube.I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Keith Johnson *Sent:* Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's much more sombre scoring. And, you mention the endpiece and the use of the song. those are definitely firsts, as I can't remember that being done for the other shows, certainly not a vocal arrangement. As for the BSG look and feel, I'm going with it for four reasons: One, it's well done (especially the direction) and I'm still fascinated by the quantum leap in production over its predecessors...two, I missed the last two seasons of BSG, so I'm not as close to burnout on the style as others...three, i really like grittier scifi/fantasy/comics, and SGU is a welcome complement to lighter shows like Eureka and Warehouse 13...and four, it feeds my continual hunger for good scifi, especially on Friday nights. If nothing else, it's nice to see a show that has a different feel from yet another Stargate, a show where i really can't anticipate what's happening next. Now all we need is for SyFy to get its schedule together so all its series--Eureka, Warehouse 13, SGU, Sanctuary--are airing new eps at the same time, and that'll make for a decent week. SyFy still isn't back to its glory days, but this helps - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:27:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I think you hit it spot on, Keith. I'm still not picking up on the incidental music, save for the endpiece, when the life-support system aboard the Destiny kicked on, and the song about breathing slipped in as neat counterpoint. I'll live
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I don't think that the black dude is disturbed. I think that he is reacting how they were treating him. He is basically doing the You think I'm crazy?? I'll show you crazy!!! thing. They don't understand him so they locked him away. He obviously is in good shape and and an excellent shot. So he has discipline. On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I am so tied in to movie and TV show theme songs it isn't funny. Just yesterday while working in the yard, the theme for Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors popped into my head, and I found myself singing the whole thing. That made me think of other cartoon themes, which saw me singing the themes to Underdog (love that one!), Silverhawks, Super Chicken, Tom Slick, and George of the Jungle, and humming the themes to The Mighty Heroes and Mighty Mouse. On SGU, Dr. Rush is irritating as hell, but the Brother kicking him disturbed me because he seems disturbed. I wish Lou Diamond Phillips were actually on the ship too, though the communications method is rather unique. It reminds me of how the crew on Voyager was able to communicate with Earth during the last year or so of their journey. What are the problems you have with SGU that seem to bother you? I'm a year behind on Fringe and Dollhouse and Medium, so need to catch up. I'm watching Fast Forward and enjoy it so far. It's done well enough to keep me interested about what the future holds - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:51:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube.I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Keith Johnson *Sent:* Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's much more sombre scoring. And, you mention the endpiece and the use of the song. those are definitely firsts, as I can't remember that being done for the other shows, certainly not a vocal arrangement. As for the BSG look and feel, I'm going with it for four reasons: One, it's well done (especially the direction) and I'm still fascinated by the quantum leap in production over its predecessors...two, I missed the last two seasons of BSG, so I'm not as close to burnout on the style as others...three, i really like grittier scifi/fantasy/comics, and SGU is a welcome complement to lighter shows like Eureka and Warehouse 13...and four, it feeds my continual hunger for good scifi, especially on Friday nights. If nothing else, it's nice to see a show that has a different feel from yet another Stargate, a show where i really can't anticipate what's happening next. Now all we need is for SyFy to get its schedule together so
RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe
I thought the two who went to the other gate died. Do you thing that the lived? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:06 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is sort of suspense light. Its an ok show though. I'm interested in how they are going to develop the girl's powers. Flashforward is interesting to me, but at this point, everyone's visions have been coming true. Why do they still doubt it? On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube.I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's much more sombre scoring. And, you mention the endpiece and the use of the song. those are definitely firsts, as I can't remember that being done for the other shows, certainly not a vocal arrangement. As for the BSG look and feel, I'm going with it for four reasons: One, it's well done (especially the direction) and I'm still fascinated by the quantum leap in production over its predecessors...two, I missed the last two seasons of BSG, so I'm not as close to burnout on the style as others...three, i really like grittier scifi/fantasy/comics, and SGU is a welcome complement to lighter shows like Eureka and Warehouse 13...and four, it feeds my continual hunger for good scifi, especially on Friday nights. If nothing else, it's nice to see a show that has a different feel from yet another Stargate, a show where i really can't anticipate what's happening next. Now all we need is for SyFy to get its schedule together so all its series--Eureka, Warehouse 13, SGU, Sanctuary--are airing new eps at the same time, and that'll make for a decent week. SyFy still isn't back to its glory days, but this helps - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:27:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second
RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe
Yeah.. The shuttle leaving was kind of freaky From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 2:41 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe They didn't show what was on the other side of the gate. Also if you noticed the last 10 seconds of the show a shuttle craft left the ship. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I thought the two who went to the other gate died. Do you thing that the lived? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:06 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is sort of suspense light. Its an ok show though. I'm interested in how they are going to develop the girl's powers. Flashforward is interesting to me, but at this point, everyone's visions have been coming true. Why do they still doubt it? On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube.I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's much more sombre scoring. And, you mention the endpiece and the use of the song. those are definitely firsts, as I can't remember that being done for the other shows, certainly not a vocal arrangement. As for the BSG look and feel, I'm going with it for four reasons: One, it's well done (especially the direction) and I'm still fascinated by the quantum leap in production over its predecessors...two, I missed the last two seasons of BSG, so I'm not as close to burnout on the style as others...three, i really like grittier scifi/fantasy/comics, and SGU is a welcome complement to lighter shows like Eureka and Warehouse 13...and four, it feeds my continual hunger for good scifi, especially on Friday nights. If nothing else, it's nice to see a show that has a different feel from yet another Stargate, a show where i
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They didn't show what was on the other side of the gate. Also if you noticed the last 10 seconds of the show a shuttle craft left the ship. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I thought the two who went to the other gate died. Do you thing that the lived? *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mr. Worf *Sent:* Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:06 AM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is sort of suspense light. Its an ok show though. I'm interested in how they are going to develop the girl's powers. Flashforward is interesting to me, but at this point, everyone's visions have been coming true. Why do they still doubt it? On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube.I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Keith Johnson *Sent:* Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's much more sombre scoring. And, you mention the endpiece and the use of the song. those are definitely firsts, as I can't remember that being done for the other shows, certainly not a vocal arrangement. As for the BSG look and feel, I'm going with it for four reasons: One, it's well done (especially the direction) and I'm still fascinated by the quantum leap in production over its predecessors...two, I missed the last two seasons of BSG, so I'm not as close to burnout on the style as others...three, i really like grittier scifi/fantasy/comics, and SGU is a welcome complement to lighter shows like Eureka and Warehouse 13...and four, it feeds my continual hunger for good scifi, especially on Friday nights. If nothing else, it's nice to see a show that has a different feel from yet another Stargate, a show where i really can't anticipate what's happening next. Now all we need is for SyFy to get its schedule together so all its series--Eureka, Warehouse 13, SGU, Sanctuary--are airing new eps at the same time, and that'll make
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Made me jump. And, as for those two who went through to the other address, I think they're probably still alive. Wouldn't be surprised at all if they turned up later in the season. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:42:46 -0700 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Yeah.. The shuttle leaving was kind of freaky From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 2:41 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe They didn't show what was on the other side of the gate. Also if you noticed the last 10 seconds of the show a shuttle craft left the ship. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I thought the two who went to the other gate died. Do you thing that the lived? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:06 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is sort of suspense light. Its an ok show though. I'm interested in how they are going to develop the girl's powers. Flashforward is interesting to me, but at this point, everyone's visions have been coming true. Why do they still doubt it? On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube. I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's much more sombre scoring. And, you mention the endpiece and the use of the song. those are definitely firsts, as I can't remember that being done
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I really believe that there are Ancients still onboard. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:40:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe They didn't show what was on the other side of the gate. Also if you noticed the last 10 seconds of the show a shuttle craft left the ship. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I thought the two who went to the other gate died. Do you thing that the lived? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:06 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is sort of suspense light. Its an ok show though. I'm interested in how they are going to develop the girl's powers. Flashforward is interesting to me, but at this point, everyone's visions have been coming true. Why do they still doubt it? On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube. I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's much more sombre scoring. And, you mention the endpiece and the use of the song. those are definitely firsts, as I can't remember that being done for the other shows, certainly not a vocal arrangement. As for the BSG look and feel, I'm going with it for four reasons: One, it's well done (especially the direction) and I'm still fascinated by the quantum leap in production over its predecessors...two, I missed the last two seasons of BSG, so I'm not as close to burnout on the style as others...three, i really like grittier scifi/fantasy/comics, and SGU
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Mr Worf, regarding why many on FlashForward still won't accept the reality of the visions -- humans seem to have a difficult time accepting what's right in front of them. Case in point -- President Barack Obama. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:06:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is sort of suspense light. Its an ok show though. I'm interested in how they are going to develop the girl's powers. Flashforward is interesting to me, but at this point, everyone's visions have been coming true. Why do they still doubt it? On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube.I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's much more sombre scoring. And, you mention the endpiece and the use of the song. those are definitely firsts, as I can't remember that being done for the other shows, certainly not a vocal arrangement. As for the BSG look and feel, I'm going with it for four reasons: One, it's well done (especially the direction) and I'm still fascinated by the quantum leap in production over its predecessors...two, I missed the last two seasons of BSG, so I'm not as close to burnout on the style as others...three, i really like grittier scifi/fantasy/comics, and SGU is a welcome complement to lighter shows like Eureka and Warehouse 13...and four, it feeds my continual hunger for good scifi, especially on Friday nights. If nothing else, it's nice to see a show that has a different feel from yet another Stargate, a show where i really can't anticipate what's happening next. Now all we need is for SyFy to get its schedule together so all its series--Eureka, Warehouse 13, SGU, Sanctuary--are airing new
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Keith, I must also admit to occasionally breaking out the DangerMouse theme. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 05:48:14 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I am so tied in to movie and TV show theme songs it isn't funny. Just yesterday while working in the yard, the theme for Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors popped into my head, and I found myself singing the whole thing. That made me think of other cartoon themes, which saw me singing the themes to Underdog (love that one!), Silverhawks, Super Chicken, Tom Slick, and George of the Jungle, and humming the themes to The Mighty Heroes and Mighty Mouse. On SGU, Dr. Rush is irritating as hell, but the Brother kicking him disturbed me because he seems disturbed. I wish Lou Diamond Phillips were actually on the ship too, though the communications method is rather unique. It reminds me of how the crew on Voyager was able to communicate with Earth during the last year or so of their journey. What are the problems you have with SGU that seem to bother you? I'm a year behind on Fringe and Dollhouse and Medium, so need to catch up. I'm watching Fast Forward and enjoy it so far. It's done well enough to keep me interested about what the future holds - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:51:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube.I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's much more sombre scoring. And, you mention the endpiece and the use of the song. those are definitely firsts, as I can't remember that being done for the other shows, certainly not a vocal arrangement. As for the BSG look and feel, I'm going with it for four reasons: One, it's well done (especially the direction) and I'm still fascinated by the quantum leap in production over its predecessors...two, I missed the last two seasons of BSG, so I'm not as close to burnout on the style as others...three, i really like grittier scifi/fantasy/comics, and SGU is a welcome complement to lighter shows like Eureka and Warehouse 13...and four, it feeds my continual hunger for good scifi, especially on Friday nights. If nothing else, it's nice to see a show that has a different feel from yet another Stargate, a show where i really can't anticipate
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I hope so, I really though. Though his behaviour is a bet too brutish to be justified as they did me wrong. But like all the characters in the movie, i guess his will developed more fully in time. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 3:14:19 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I don't think that the black dude is disturbed. I think that he is reacting how they were treating him. He is basically doing the You think I'm crazy?? I'll show you crazy!!! thing. They don't understand him so they locked him away. He obviously is in good shape and and an excellent shot. So he has discipline. On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I am so tied in to movie and TV show theme songs it isn't funny. Just yesterday while working in the yard, the theme for Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors popped into my head, and I found myself singing the whole thing. That made me think of other cartoon themes, which saw me singing the themes to Underdog (love that one!), Silverhawks, Super Chicken, Tom Slick, and George of the Jungle, and humming the themes to The Mighty Heroes and Mighty Mouse. On SGU, Dr. Rush is irritating as hell, but the Brother kicking him disturbed me because he seems disturbed. I wish Lou Diamond Phillips were actually on the ship too, though the communications method is rather unique. It reminds me of how the crew on Voyager was able to communicate with Earth during the last year or so of their journey. What are the problems you have with SGU that seem to bother you? I'm a year behind on Fringe and Dollhouse and Medium, so need to catch up. I'm watching Fast Forward and enjoy it so far. It's done well enough to keep me interested about what the future holds - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:51:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube. I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's much more sombre scoring. And, you mention the endpiece and the use of the song. those are definitely firsts, as I can't remember that being done for the other shows, certainly not a vocal arrangement. As for the BSG look and feel, I'm going with it for four reasons: One, it's well done (especially the direction) and I'm still fascinated by the quantum leap in production over its predecessors...two, I missed the last two seasons of BSG, so I'm not as close to burnout on the style as others...three, i
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Was that a shuttle craft leaving the ship, or was it perhaps one of the ship's probes or automated gate-building devices? I know its mission is to gather information and build additional gates along the way. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:40:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe They didn't show what was on the other side of the gate. Also if you noticed the last 10 seconds of the show a shuttle craft left the ship. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I thought the two who went to the other gate died. Do you thing that the lived? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:06 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is sort of suspense light. Its an ok show though. I'm interested in how they are going to develop the girl's powers. Flashforward is interesting to me, but at this point, everyone's visions have been coming true. Why do they still doubt it? On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube. I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's much more sombre scoring. And, you mention the endpiece and the use of the song. those are definitely firsts, as I can't remember that being done for the other shows, certainly not a vocal arrangement. As for the BSG look and feel, I'm going with it for four reasons: One, it's well done (especially the direction) and I'm still fascinated by the quantum leap in production over its predecessors...two, I missed the last two seasons of BSG, so I'm not as close to burnout on the style as others...three, i really like grittier scifi/fantasy/comics, and SGU is a welcome complement to lighter shows like Eureka
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Well said! But also, it must be remembered that even if some things have come true, not all of them must come true. Especially when one tries to ascribe some higher meaning to the flash forward, as in, is the Universe warning you of something coming so you can change it? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 7:26:05 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Mr Worf, regarding why many on FlashForward still won't accept the reality of the visions -- humans seem to have a difficult time accepting what's right in front of them. Case in point -- President Barack Obama. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:06:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is sort of suspense light. Its an ok show though. I'm interested in how they are going to develop the girl's powers. Flashforward is interesting to me, but at this point, everyone's visions have been coming true. Why do they still doubt it? On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube. I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's much more sombre scoring. And, you mention the endpiece and the use of the song. those are definitely firsts, as I can't remember that being done for the other shows, certainly not a vocal arrangement. As for the BSG look and feel, I'm going with it for four reasons: One, it's well done (especially the direction) and I'm still fascinated by the quantum leap in production over its predecessors...two, I missed the last two seasons of BSG, so I'm not as close to burnout on the style as others...three, i really like grittier scifi/fantasy
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How true! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:32:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Well said! But also, it must be remembered that even if some things have come true, not all of them must come true. Especially when one tries to ascribe some higher meaning to the flash forward, as in, is the Universe warning you of something coming so you can change it? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 7:26:05 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Mr Worf, regarding why many on FlashForward still won't accept the reality of the visions -- humans seem to have a difficult time accepting what's right in front of them. Case in point -- President Barack Obama. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:06:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is sort of suspense light. Its an ok show though. I'm interested in how they are going to develop the girl's powers. Flashforward is interesting to me, but at this point, everyone's visions have been coming true. Why do they still doubt it? On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube.I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's much more sombre scoring. And, you mention
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Keith, it looked like the undamaged shuttle. Admittedly, my glance was brief. Tried to stretch myself to rewatch it at 11:00, but I faded. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:26:51 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Was that a shuttle craft leaving the ship, or was it perhaps one of the ship's probes or automated gate-building devices? I know its mission is to gather information and build additional gates along the way. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:40:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe They didn't show what was on the other side of the gate. Also if you noticed the last 10 seconds of the show a shuttle craft left the ship. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I thought the two who went to the other gate died. Do you thing that the lived? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:06 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is sort of suspense light. Its an ok show though. I'm interested in how they are going to develop the girl's powers. Flashforward is interesting to me, but at this point, everyone's visions have been coming true. Why do they still doubt it? On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube. I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's
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I need to take a gander again at it. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:22:43 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, it looked like the undamaged shuttle. Admittedly, my glance was brief. Tried to stretch myself to rewatch it at 11:00, but I faded. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:26:51 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Was that a shuttle craft leaving the ship, or was it perhaps one of the ship's probes or automated gate-building devices? I know its mission is to gather information and build additional gates along the way. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:40:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe They didn't show what was on the other side of the gate. Also if you noticed the last 10 seconds of the show a shuttle craft left the ship. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I thought the two who went to the other gate died. Do you thing that the lived? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:06 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is sort of suspense light. Its an ok show though. I'm interested in how they are going to develop the girl's powers. Flashforward is interesting to me, but at this point, everyone's visions have been coming true. Why do they still doubt it? On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube. I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music
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There are things about precognition that makes it hard to predict. One thing is the time and place of the precog. There is no way to know when or where you are. The second is you don't know what will lead up to the event. For example, if you see yourself in a boat crash, will you remember not to get on a boat or forget about it completely until you get a deja vu feeling? Time is probably linear with some bits of it that are flexible. There are so many variables in our daily lives that can happen from point A to point B that any of those could come into play with time traveling. For example if you have a vision of seeing a child being hit by a bus. To prevent it from happening a million things can happen while you are on your way like your key gets stuck in the door on your way out, or you trip on the side walk. Anyone remember the show Morning Paper? It was a good example of that but on a linear path. Heroes played around with time travel last week by having Hiro repeat an event 50 times before giving up on the event. He was changing only part of what was the problem, but not trying to change the source to prevent the outcome. I thought that was good writing. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: The whole concept of predicting the future is a strange one. Why have the power to see the future if it can't be changed, i.e., would it be better to see possible futures instead of certain ones? Does seeing the future if it's immutable only mean it prepares you for what's coming, e.g., if you see the death of a loved one, you can prepare for it ahead of time? And in that case, does seeing the future change the past? Would you not have, say, told that loved one how much she meant to you had you not seen her death coming, or was it always fated to be? Makes me crazy, but to me proves that time can't be linear, but must be circular or omnidirectional, because perhaps the future, the present (what actions you take because you've seen that future) and the past (actions taken that lead to you being able to see that future) all take place at the same time. Maybe time isn't linear, but a singularity, a point in which everything that ever was, is, or will be is happening right now--we just can't perceive it. Don't know. I do know that, when you have those discussions about what super power you'd like to have, the ability to see the future isn't usually on my list. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:26:19 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe How true! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:32:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Well said! But also, it must be remembered that even if some things have come true, not all of them must come true. Especially when one tries to ascribe some higher meaning to the flash forward, as in, is the Universe warning you of something coming so you can change it? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 7:26:05 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Mr Worf, regarding why many on FlashForward still won't accept the reality of the visions -- humans seem to have a difficult time accepting what's right in front of them. Case in point -- President Barack Obama. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:06:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is sort of suspense light. Its an ok show though. I'm interested
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That’s what I thought at first. Was it the Senator’s shuttle and did reviving the ship trigger something with his pod? It’s a conundrum From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:39 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe The ship looked a lot like the one that the senator died in. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I need to take a gander again at it. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:22:43 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, it looked like the undamaged shuttle. Admittedly, my glance was brief. Tried to stretch myself to rewatch it at 11:00, but I faded. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:26:51 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Was that a shuttle craft leaving the ship, or was it perhaps one of the ship's probes or automated gate-building devices? I know its mission is to gather information and build additional gates along the way. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:40:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe They didn't show what was on the other side of the gate. Also if you noticed the last 10 seconds of the show a shuttle craft left the ship. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I thought the two who went to the other gate died. Do you thing that the lived? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:06 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I watched the show last night. I also agree that I enjoyed the doctor getting kicked in the butt. I think that they may be building the black guy into an anti-hero. Cuz you know that black people don't live long in space... They seem to have a few different subplots already brewing. For example, the 2 that went to the other gate address. Dollhouse: I watched that too. I am starting to get a little irked at the malfunction subplot. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere yet. The subtext to the show is interesting. They seem to be exploring the full spectrum of fantasies for the Echo character. I wonder what is going on with that? :) I watch medium, and flashforward too. Medium is sort of suspense light. Its an ok show though. I'm interested in how they are going to develop the girl's powers. Flashforward is interesting to me, but at this point, everyone's visions have been coming true. Why do they still doubt it? On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube.I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty
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I think you hit it spot on, Keith. I'm still not picking up on the incidental music, save for the endpiece, when the life-support system aboard the Destiny kicked on, and the song about breathing slipped in as neat counterpoint. I'll live with the BG tone of the series to date, though I don't find myself much enamored of it. (Seen it once, would rather see something different.) One point I did notice in the new ep, when Eli stuck his arm into the event horizon to delay the Gate from shutting down until Scott and Greer could make it through, and the ship began shuddering, trying to fight off the override and go FTL. I think that, the next time that stunt is tried, someone's gonna lose an arm. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:55:50 + Subject: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Two eps in, including three viewings of the premiere, and I'm still watching. The second show---really a continuation of the pilot--keeps the tone of the first. And that tone is frankly not like any of the previous Stargates. The show continues to be much darker , as the reluctant crew of the Destiny fight for survival. What strikes me is the lack of lighthearted humour that pervaded the first two series. Outside of teen Eli, everyone here is deadly serious. No O'Neal cracking wise. Even in his guest spots, Richard Dean Anderson is very serious. Since character backgrounds are only slowly being explored, it'll be a while before we really get to know the cast, which lends an air of mystery that is also new. Still not feeling the borderline psycho Brother though, who in tonight's show literally gave someone the boot. Is he nuts, or supposedly just such a loyal soldier that he's...nuts? As I watched tonight's ep, I noticed three key things about the series, aside from the tone. One, there's a lot more use of heavy musical scores to set the mode, both orchestral and vocal. I can't remember much of that from SG-1 or Atlantis. Two, notice how the command personnel dress--all in black. the uniforms are a definite change from the standard colors of the other shows. Remind you of anything? First thing I thought of was the officers of BSG, who also wore black and were oh-so-somber. And third, the camera work. SGU uses the style so much in vogue nowadays: the camera panning across scenes, moving back and forth, shaking sometimes, as if a documentary were being filmed. In short, it looks much like...BSG again. And that's what really hit me: this show is a lot like BSG. At one point I was noticing how there's a clear division between military and civilian personnel. There are ongoing conflicts as the civilians bump hit with the military on who's in charge, on making critical decisions. Again, sound like anything familiar, say, like the conflicts between the civilian and military leaders on BSG? It's clear the showrunners must have sat down and watched Ronald Moore's work intently. Not that I'm complaining, mind you. Universe is a much more mature-feeling show than its predecessors, especially SG-1. The direction is (excuse the pun) lightyears beyond, and it simply doesn't even really feel like a Stargate series. Now, i'm not sure if this will last. Maybe the current director only did the first few eps. Maybe, as they settle in and start meeting other races, it will devolve into the standard alien-of-the-week format. But for right now, the more somber feeling is entertaining, for all that it owes that feeling to BSG. What do you think? - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2009 12:26:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: My Take - Stargate Universe I admit it was an entertaining show. Like Voyager, it struck with with high production values, and a very competent cast. Everyone fit into his or her role pretty seamlessly, the FX were good, story moved along. And like Voyager, we got glimpses into the backgrounds of the cast, but the details will be fleshed out later. The show moved along at a good clip: It starts out with the people fleeing some as yet undefined danger, literally being tossed through a Gate like sacks of potatoes. In quick order they discover their plight of being on an Ancient ship billoiins of light years from Earth. I actually like the concept of sending the ships out ahead of time, then Gating to them perhaps centuries later. Aside from Voyager, I detected a decided BSG feeling to the show. The look and feel of it, the camera work, the mix of characters all reminded me of BSG. It has potential. But the question is, will it be more like Voyager--or much of the SG-1 years for that
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It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's much more sombre scoring. And, you mention the endpiece and the use of the song. those are definitely firsts, as I can't remember that being done for the other shows, certainly not a vocal arrangement. As for the BSG look and feel, I'm going with it for four reasons: One, it's well done (especially the direction) and I'm still fascinated by the quantum leap in production over its predecessors...two, I missed the last two seasons of BSG, so I'm not as close to burnout on the style as others...three, i really like grittier scifi/fantasy/comics, and SGU is a welcome complement to lighter shows like Eureka and Warehouse 13...and four, it feeds my continual hunger for good scifi, especially on Friday nights. If nothing else, it's nice to see a show that has a different feel from yet another Stargate, a show where i really can't anticipate what's happening next. Now all we need is for SyFy to get its schedule together so all its series--Eureka, Warehouse 13, SGU, Sanctuary--are airing new eps at the same time, and that'll make for a decent week. SyFy still isn't back to its glory days, but this helps - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:27:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I think you hit it spot on, Keith. I'm still not picking up on the incidental music, save for the endpiece, when the life-support system aboard the Destiny kicked on, and the song about breathing slipped in as neat counterpoint. I'll live with the BG tone of the series to date, though I don't find myself much enamored of it. (Seen it once, would rather see something different.) One point I did notice in the new ep, when Eli stuck his arm into the event horizon to delay the Gate from shutting down until Scott and Greer could make it through, and the ship began shuddering, trying to fight off the override and go FTL. I think that, the next time that stunt is tried, someone's gonna lose an arm. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:55:50 + Subject: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Two eps in, including three viewings of the premiere, and I'm still watching. The second show---really a continuation of the pilot--keeps the tone of the first. And that tone is frankly not like any of the previous Stargates. The show continues to be much darker , as the reluctant crew of the Destiny fight for survival. What strikes me is the lack of lighthearted humour that pervaded the first two series. Outside of teen Eli, everyone here is deadly serious. No O'Neal cracking wise. Even in his guest spots, Richard Dean Anderson is very serious. Since character backgrounds are only slowly being explored, it'll be a while before we really get to know the cast, which lends an air of mystery that is also new. Still not feeling the borderline psycho Brother though, who in tonight's show literally gave someone the boot. Is he nuts, or supposedly just such a loyal soldier that he's...nuts? As I watched tonight's ep, I noticed three key things about the series, aside from the tone. One, there's a lot more use of heavy musical scores to set the mode, both orchestral and vocal. I can't remember much of that from SG-1 or Atlantis. Two, notice how the command personnel dress--all in black. the uniforms are a definite change from the standard colors of the other shows. Remind you of anything? First thing I thought of was the officers of BSG, who also wore black and were oh-so-somber. And third, the camera work. SGU uses the style so much in vogue nowadays: the camera panning across scenes, moving back and forth, shaking sometimes, as if a documentary were being filmed. In short, it looks much like...BSG again. And that's what really hit me: this show is a lot like BSG. At one point I was noticing how there's a clear division between military and civilian personnel. There are ongoing conflicts as the civilians bump hit with the military on who's in charge, on making critical decisions. Again, sound like anything familiar, say, like the conflicts between the civilian and military leaders on BSG? It's clear the showrunners must have sat down and watched Ronald Moore's work intently. Not that I'm complaining, mind you. Universe is a much more mature-feeling show than its predecessors, especially SG-1
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Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's much more sombre scoring. And, you mention the endpiece and the use of the song. those are definitely firsts, as I can't remember that being done for the other shows, certainly not a vocal arrangement. As for the BSG look and feel, I'm going with it for four reasons: One, it's well done (especially the direction) and I'm still fascinated by the quantum leap in production over its predecessors...two, I missed the last two seasons of BSG, so I'm not as close to burnout on the style as others...three, i really like grittier scifi/fantasy/comics, and SGU is a welcome complement to lighter shows like Eureka and Warehouse 13...and four, it feeds my continual hunger for good scifi, especially on Friday nights. If nothing else, it's nice to see a show that has a different feel from yet another Stargate, a show where i really can't anticipate what's happening next. Now all we need is for SyFy to get its schedule together so all its series--Eureka, Warehouse 13, SGU, Sanctuary--are airing new eps at the same time, and that'll make for a decent week. SyFy still isn't back to its glory days, but this helps - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:27:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I think you hit it spot on, Keith. I'm still not picking up on the incidental music, save for the endpiece, when the life-support system aboard the Destiny kicked on, and the song about breathing slipped in as neat counterpoint. I'll live with the BG tone of the series to date, though I don't find myself much enamored of it. (Seen it once, would rather see something different.) One point I did notice in the new ep, when Eli stuck his arm into the event horizon to delay the Gate from shutting down until Scott and Greer could make it through, and the ship began shuddering, trying to fight off the override and go FTL. I think that, the next time that stunt is tried, someone's gonna lose an arm. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:55:50 + Subject: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Two eps in, including three viewings of the premiere, and I'm still watching. The second show---really a continuation of the pilot--keeps the tone of the first. And that tone is frankly not like any of the previous Stargates. The show continues to be much darker , as the reluctant crew of the Destiny fight for survival. What strikes me is the lack of lighthearted humour that pervaded the first two series. Outside of teen Eli, everyone here is deadly serious. No O'Neal cracking wise. Even in his guest spots, Richard Dean Anderson is very serious. Since character backgrounds are only slowly being explored, it'll be a while before we really get to know the cast, which lends an air of mystery that is also new. Still not feeling the borderline psycho Brother though, who in tonight's show literally gave someone the boot. Is he nuts, or supposedly just such a loyal soldier that he's...nuts? As I watched tonight's ep, I noticed three key things about the series, aside from the tone. One, there's a lot more use of heavy musical scores to set the mode, both orchestral and vocal. I can't remember much of that from SG-1 or Atlantis. Two, notice how the command personnel dress--all in black. the uniforms are a definite change from the standard colors of the other shows. Remind you of anything? First thing I thought of was the officers of BSG, who also wore black and were oh-so-somber. And third, the camera work. SGU uses the style so much in vogue nowadays: the camera panning across scenes, moving back and forth, shaking sometimes, as if a documentary were being filmed. In short, it looks much like...BSG again
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I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's much more sombre scoring. And, you mention the endpiece and the use of the song. those are definitely firsts, as I can't remember that being done for the other shows, certainly not a vocal arrangement. As for the BSG look and feel, I'm going with it for four reasons: One, it's well done (especially the direction) and I'm still fascinated by the quantum leap in production over its predecessors...two, I missed the last two seasons of BSG, so I'm not as close to burnout on the style as others...three, i really like grittier scifi/fantasy/comics, and SGU is a welcome complement to lighter shows like Eureka and Warehouse 13...and four, it feeds my continual hunger for good scifi, especially on Friday nights. If nothing else, it's nice to see a show that has a different feel from yet another Stargate, a show where i really can't anticipate what's happening next. Now all we need is for SyFy to get its schedule together so all its series--Eureka, Warehouse 13, SGU, Sanctuary--are airing new eps at the same time, and that'll make for a decent week. SyFy still isn't back to its glory days, but this helps - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:27:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I think you hit it spot on, Keith. I'm still not picking up on the incidental music, save for the endpiece, when the life-support system aboard the Destiny kicked on, and the song about breathing slipped in as neat counterpoint. I'll live with the BG tone of the series to date, though I don't find myself much enamored of it. (Seen it once, would rather see something different.) One point I did notice in the new ep, when Eli stuck his arm into the event horizon to delay the Gate from shutting down until Scott and Greer could make it through, and the ship began shuddering, trying to fight off the override and go FTL. I think that, the next time that stunt is tried, someone's gonna lose an arm. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:55:50 + Subject: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Two eps in, including three viewings of the premiere, and I'm still watching. The second show---really a continuation of the pilot--keeps the tone of the first. And that tone is frankly not like any of the previous Stargates. The show continues to be much darker , as the reluctant crew of the Destiny fight for survival. What strikes me is the lack of lighthearted humour that pervaded the first two series. Outside of teen Eli, everyone here is deadly serious. No O'Neal cracking wise. Even in his guest spots, Richard Dean Anderson is very serious. Since character backgrounds are only slowly being explored, it'll be a while before we really get to know the cast, which lends an air of mystery that is also new. Still not feeling the borderline psycho Brother though, who in tonight's show literally gave someone the boot. Is he nuts, or supposedly just such a loyal soldier that he's...nuts? As I watched tonight's ep, I noticed three key things about the series, aside from the tone. One, there's a lot more use of heavy musical scores to set the mode, both orchestral and vocal. I can't remember much of that from SG-1 or Atlantis. Two, notice how the command personnel dress--all in black. the uniforms are a definite
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Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube.I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's much more sombre scoring. And, you mention the endpiece and the use of the song. those are definitely firsts, as I can't remember that being done for the other shows, certainly not a vocal arrangement. As for the BSG look and feel, I'm going with it for four reasons: One, it's well done (especially the direction) and I'm still fascinated by the quantum leap in production over its predecessors...two, I missed the last two seasons of BSG, so I'm not as close to burnout on the style as others...three, i really like grittier scifi/fantasy/comics, and SGU is a welcome complement to lighter shows like Eureka and Warehouse 13...and four, it feeds my continual hunger for good scifi, especially on Friday nights. If nothing else, it's nice to see a show that has a different feel from yet another Stargate, a show where i really can't anticipate what's happening next. Now all we need is for SyFy to get its schedule together so all its series--Eureka, Warehouse 13, SGU, Sanctuary--are airing new eps at the same time, and that'll make for a decent week. SyFy still isn't back to its glory days, but this helps - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:27:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I think you hit it spot on, Keith. I'm still not picking up on the incidental music, save for the endpiece, when the life-support system aboard the Destiny kicked on, and the song about breathing slipped in as neat counterpoint. I'll live with the BG tone of the series to date, though I don't find myself much enamored of it. (Seen it once, would rather see something different.) One point I did notice in the new ep, when Eli stuck his arm into the event horizon to delay the Gate from shutting down until Scott and Greer could make it through, and the ship began shuddering, trying to fight off the override and go FTL. I think that, the next time that stunt is tried, someone's gonna lose an arm. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:55:50 + Subject: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Two eps in, including three viewings of the premiere, and I'm still watching. The second show---really a continuation of the pilot--keeps the tone of the first. And that tone is frankly not like any of the previous Stargates. The show continues to be much darker
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I am so tied in to movie and TV show theme songs it isn't funny. Just yesterday while working in the yard, the theme for Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors popped into my head, and I found myself singing the whole thing. That made me think of other cartoon themes, which saw me singing the themes to Underdog (love that one!), Silverhawks, Super Chicken, Tom Slick, and George of the Jungle, and humming the themes to The Mighty Heroes and Mighty Mouse. On SGU, Dr. Rush is irritating as hell, but the Brother kicking him disturbed me because he seems disturbed. I wish Lou Diamond Phillips were actually on the ship too, though the communications method is rather unique. It reminds me of how the crew on Voyager was able to communicate with Earth during the last year or so of their journey. What are the problems you have with SGU that seem to bother you? I'm a year behind on Fringe and Dollhouse and Medium, so need to catch up. I'm watching Fast Forward and enjoy it so far. It's done well enough to keep me interested about what the future holds - Original Message - From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:51:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Some of my favorite TV Theme music is Doctor Who. I listen to it sometimes on You tube. I used to collect Movie Them Music. Now I just play them on You Tube. On SGU I liked the song that they played right before the last three went through the gate. I like this Stargate better than the last few seasons of SGI and Better than Atlantis, but I got some problems with it that I can’t quite put my fingers on. Overall, I like that they are trying to do real stories again. I would like to like the Black guy, but he irks me. Ironically I enjoyed when he kicked the Doctor in the butt. I do not like how they are Using Lou Diamond Phillips. Anybody watching Fringe, Dollhouse, FastForward or Medium? Any thoughts? From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:12 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe I'm extremely conscious of music. I can identify just about any OS ep just by listening to the music. I remember some of my fav TV shows based on the music played. Hey...is anyone else here watching SGU? No other comments so far. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:52:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe Keith, I keep saying that I need to pay incidental music more mind, but I keep forgetting. Those concussions add up... I'd like to see more gritty fare in SF as well. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:51:02 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take - Stargate Universe It may be, Martin, that there's not any *more* music here than in SG-1 or Atlantis, but the *type* of music used differs, which caught my attention. SG-1 had a lighter score, even in serious moments. Atlantis' overall music was a little bolder than SG-1. But with SGU, it's much more sombre scoring. And, you mention the endpiece and the use of the song. those are definitely firsts, as I can't remember that being done for the other shows, certainly not a vocal arrangement. As for the BSG look and feel, I'm going with it for four reasons: One, it's well done (especially the direction) and I'm still fascinated by the quantum leap in production over its predecessors...two, I missed the last two seasons of BSG, so I'm not as close to burnout on the style as others...three, i really like grittier scifi/fantasy/comics, and SGU is a welcome complement to lighter shows like Eureka and Warehouse 13...and four, it feeds my continual hunger for good scifi, especially on Friday nights. If nothing else, it's nice to see a show that has a different feel from yet another Stargate, a show where i really can't anticipate what's happening next. Now all we need is for SyFy to get its schedule together so all its series--Eureka, Warehouse 13, SGU, Sanctuary--are airing new eps at the same time, and that'll make for a decent week. SyFy still isn't back to its glory days, but this helps - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:27:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] My (Second) Take
