RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Twins separated at birth met and married

[Reece Jennings]

I totally agree!  I thought I was pretty open to other cultures.  Then I
drove a busload of
people to Canada.  CANADA!  Not like it's the biggest cultural challenge, or
so I thought.
I just figured Canada was like northern Maine...!
 
But I had some trouble with the Metric speed limit signs.  
 
And I embarrassed myself in a coffee shop.  I gave the clerk a 10 dollar
bill, and I got back
an American 5 and a bunch of change.  I was a little short when I asked
about the other
3 dollars...the clerk gave me 'that look', then pointed out the 2-dollar
coin, and the 1-dollar
coin.  I must have looked like I had been caught with toilet paper in my
pants, because she
burst out laughing, as did her 49 coworkers who saw the exchange!  I laughed
and apologized,
and left with a whole different perspective on American ego and
ignorance...LOLLOL!!!
 
I've grown to appreciate perspectives from people who either live in other
countries, or grew up
in other countries.  Much freshness, and looks from people who aren't
emotionally attached to
our problems...!
 
Tracey knows a couple of Africans and West Indians in another group we
belong to, and there are
constant cultural differences presented.  Of course there is friction at
times, because there can 
be mis-communication.  But things are eventually ironed out, and love flows
again...much like
sewage...   :o)
 
 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
<http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> 
 
 
 

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:55 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Twins separated at birth met and married



I'm glad you stuck around. Please jump in more to keep us honest. I 
think Americans need to be more of the world. We can only grow and 
learn from having out of the states perspectives in the conversation.
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Meta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:hettrek%40yahoo.com> com> 
> I have to thank you as well, Tracy. 
> When I joined this list it really was for the sci/fi and while I still
> like that aspect of the list, I stay because even though I've never
> met any of you good people face to face, I feel a kindred with most of
> you. 
> Sometimes I feel left out because of the talk of shows, etc that
> haven't as yet made it this side of the pond, but with all
> the other things that get discussed,debated, etc. I find myself
> here nearly every day. 
> I've learned so much of what is going on in this world and especially
> America from you guys and "I thank you all" for teaching me about
> so many things I didn't know or understand. I may not join in
> many discussions but know that I'm absorbing all the good 'mind food'
> I can here.
>
> Thanks,
> Meta
>
>
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com,
"Tracey de Morsella (formerly
> Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks guys. I was just thinking scifinoir was no longer a scifi list, 
>> but a life sharing list. I can not take credit for nurturing it, but I 
>> am glad it happened. I think you should be applauding yourselves. 
>>
>> Martin wrote:
>> 
>>> Three cheers for Tracey!
>>>
>>> Hip-hip HOORAY!
>>>
>>> Hip-hip HOORAY!
>>>
>>> Hip-hip HOORAY!
>>>
>>> Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>>> 
> God bless you, Martin. I think we do that for each other. You
> know, I
> 
>>> played football on a
>>> team in Newark, NJ after I got out of the Air Force. I was
>>> 
> primarily a
> 
>>> defensive safety, and
>>> we were one tough team! And you know where our strength came
>>> 
> from? Each
> 
>>> other.
>>>
>>> See, when we huddled before each play, we held hands. So much
>>> 
> strength and
> 
>>> support flowed
>>> between us...
>>>
>>> That's what I feel here, with all of us. 
>>>
>>> I think it's pretty cool that we started with a shared passion,
>>> 
> and that has
> 
>>> grown into what we have, 
>>> with the passion still our glue, of course.
>>>
>>> And kudos to Mama Tracey for nurturing our deviations from the
>>> 
> main subject,
> 
>>> and allowing us to
>>> become so close...
>>>
>>> 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Twins separated at birth met and married

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I'm glad you stuck around.  Please jump in more to keep us honest.  I 
think Americans need to be more of the world.  We can only grow and 
learn from having out of the states perspectives in the conversation.
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Meta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> I have to thank you as well, Tracy. 
> When I joined this list it really was for the sci/fi and while I still
> like that aspect of the list, I stay because even though I've never
> met any of you good people face to face, I feel a kindred with most of
> you. 
> Sometimes I feel left out because of the talk of shows, etc that
> haven't as yet made it this side of the pond, but with all
> the other things that get discussed,debated, etc. I find myself
> here nearly every day. 
> I've learned so much of what is going on in this world and especially
> America from you guys and "I thank you all" for teaching me about
> so many things I didn't know or understand. I may not join in
> many discussions but know that I'm absorbing all the good 'mind food'
> I can here.
>
> Thanks,
> Meta
>
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly
> Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Thanks guys. I was just thinking scifinoir was no longer a scifi list, 
>> but a life sharing list. I can not take credit for nurturing it, but I 
>> am glad it happened. I think you should be applauding yourselves. 
>>
>> Martin wrote:
>> 
>>> Three cheers for Tracey!
>>>
>>> Hip-hip HOORAY!
>>>
>>> Hip-hip HOORAY!
>>>
>>> Hip-hip HOORAY!
>>>
>>> Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>>>   
> God bless you, Martin. I think we do that for each other. You
> know, I
>   
>>> played football on a
>>> team in Newark, NJ after I got out of the Air Force. I was
>>>   
> primarily a
>   
>>> defensive safety, and
>>> we were one tough team! And you know where our strength came
>>>   
> from? Each
>   
>>> other.
>>>
>>> See, when we huddled before each play, we held hands. So much
>>>   
> strength and
>   
>>> support flowed
>>> between us...
>>>
>>> That's what I feel here, with all of us. 
>>>
>>> I think it's pretty cool that we started with a shared passion,
>>>   
> and that has
>   
>>> grown into what we have, 
>>> with the passion still our glue, of course.
>>>
>>> And kudos to Mama Tracey for nurturing our deviations from the
>>>   
> main subject,
>   
>>> and allowing us to
>>> become so close...
>>>
>>> Maurice Jennings
>>> Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
>>> KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
>>> Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation =>
>>>   
> http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
>   
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _ 
>>>
>>> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>>>   
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>   
>>> Behalf Of Martin
>>> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 1:55 PM
>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Twins separated at birth met and married
>>>
>>> Reece, your words give me joy every day, and I'm in sore need of
>>>   
> it these
>   
>>> days. I'm beginning to look at you as a role model.
>>>
>>> Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com>
>>>   
> yahoo.com>
>   
>>> wrote: Sigh...I know. I tend to attempt to lighten up potentially
>>> painful/heavy
>>> subjects
>>> with sick humor...a gift I developed during my cop days...LOL!
>>>
>>> And Martin, I know I don't have to say this to you, but I'm sure
>>>   
> you know my
>   
>>> twisted humor is in NO way meant to take anything away from the very
>>> human and touching parts of your life. In fact, they hit home for
>>>   
> me...
>   
>>> I have a son who was born April 15, 1968. I was preparing to head
>>>   
> to the
>   
>>> Philippines.
>>>
>>> He was born David William Jennings. At 8 months, he was adopted,
>>>   
> and his
>   
>>> name
>>> was changed. I won't put it here. You never know...well, until
>>>   
> 1998, I had
>   
>>> no idea
>>> what his adopted name was, or anything about him. Then I stumbled
>>>   
> across
>   
>>> his mother.
>>> We had a brief connection in 1967 (what a choice of word!) that
>>>   
> lead to her
>   
>>> pregnancy. 
>>>
>>> I did a search of his name on the fledgling internet, and 2 names
>>>   
> popped up.
>   
>>> A VERY unique
>>> first and last name helped, so I called the Junior name. My son
>>>   
> answered,
>   
>>> and I gently probed
>>> until I found out he had no idea that I existed. So...I dropped the
>>> 'F'-bomb (FATHER) on him.
>>>
>>> "I am your biological father." I gave him information about me.
>>>   
> He, of
>   
>>> course, was blown out.
>>> He said he couldn't talk right then. About 5 hours later I
>>>   
> received a phone
>   
>>> call from a very blunt,
>>> intense woman. She grilled me about his mother, our meeting,
>>>   
> where the mom
>   
>>> was from...during the
>>> conversatio

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Twins separated at birth met and married

[Reece Jennings]

Meta:
 
Where is home for you?
 
 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
 
 
 
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Meta
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:40 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Twins separated at birth met and married



I have to thank you as well, Tracy. 
When I joined this list it really was for the sci/fi and while I still
like that aspect of the list, I stay because even though I've never
met any of you good people face to face, I feel a kindred with most of
you. 
Sometimes I feel left out because of the talk of shows, etc that
haven't as yet made it this side of the pond, but with all
the other things that get discussed,debated, etc. I find myself
here nearly every day. 
I've learned so much of what is going on in this world and especially
America from you guys and "I thank you all" for teaching me about
so many things I didn't know or understand. I may not join in
many discussions but know that I'm absorbing all the good 'mind food'
I can here.

Thanks,
Meta


--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com,
"Tracey de Morsella (formerly
Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks guys. I was just thinking scifinoir was no longer a scifi list, 
> but a life sharing list. I can not take credit for nurturing it, but I 
> am glad it happened. I think you should be applauding yourselves. 
> 
> Martin wrote:
> > Three cheers for Tracey!
> >
> > Hip-hip HOORAY!
> >
> > Hip-hip HOORAY!
> >
> > Hip-hip HOORAY!
> >
> > Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
God bless you, Martin. I think we do that for each other. You
know, I
> > played football on a
> > team in Newark, NJ after I got out of the Air Force. I was
primarily a
> > defensive safety, and
> > we were one tough team! And you know where our strength came
from? Each
> > other.
> > 
> > See, when we huddled before each play, we held hands. So much
strength and
> > support flowed
> > between us...
> > 
> > That's what I feel here, with all of us. 
> > 
> > I think it's pretty cool that we started with a shared passion,
and that has
> > grown into what we have, 
> > with the passion still our glue, of course.
> > 
> > And kudos to Mama Tracey for nurturing our deviations from the
main subject,
> > and allowing us to
> > become so close...
> > 
> > Maurice Jennings
> > Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
> > KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
> > Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation =>
http://www.legacyho  mesavers.com
> >  mesavers.com/> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _ 
> > 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com]
On
> > Behalf Of Martin
> > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 1:55 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
> > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Twins separated at birth met and married
> > 
> > Reece, your words give me joy every day, and I'm in sore need of
it these
> > days. I'm beginning to look at you as a role model.
> > 
> > Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com>
yahoo.com>
> > wrote: Sigh...I know. I tend to attempt to lighten up potentially
> > painful/heavy
> > subjects
> > with sick humor...a gift I developed during my cop days...LOL!
> > 
> > And Martin, I know I don't have to say this to you, but I'm sure
you know my
> > twisted humor is in NO way meant to take anything away from the very
> > human and touching parts of your life. In fact, they hit home for
me...
> > 
> > I have a son who was born April 15, 1968. I was preparing to head
to the
> > Philippines.
> > 
> > He was born David William Jennings. At 8 months, he was adopted,
and his
> > name
> > was changed. I won't put it here. You never know...well, until
1998, I had
> > no idea
> > what his adopted name was, or anything about him. Then I stumbled
across
> > his mother.
> > We had a brief connection in 1967 (what a choice of word!) that
lead to her
> > pregnancy. 
> > 
> > I did a search of his name on the fledgling internet, and 2 names
popped up.
> > A VERY unique
> > first and last name helped, so I called the Junior name. My son
answered,
> > and I gently probed
> > until I found out he had no idea that I existed. So...I dropped the
> > 'F'-bomb (FATHER) on him.
> > 
> > "I am your biological father." I gave him information about me.
He, of
> > course, was blown out.
> > He said he couldn't talk right then. About 5 hours later I
received a phone
> > call from a very blunt,
> > intense woman. She grilled me about his mother, our meeting,
where the mom
> > was from...during the
> 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Twins separated at birth met and married

[KeithBJohnson]

i forgot, where on that side of the pond do you live?

-- Original message -- 
From: "Meta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I have to thank you as well, Tracy. 
When I joined this list it really was for the sci/fi and while I still
like that aspect of the list, I stay because even though I've never
met any of you good people face to face, I feel a kindred with most of
you. 
Sometimes I feel left out because of the talk of shows, etc that
haven't as yet made it this side of the pond, but with all
the other things that get discussed,debated, etc. I find myself
here nearly every day. 
I've learned so much of what is going on in this world and especially
America from you guys and "I thank you all" for teaching me about
so many things I didn't know or understand. I may not join in
many discussions but know that I'm absorbing all the good 'mind food'
I can here.

Thanks,
Meta


--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly
Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks guys. I was just thinking scifinoir was no longer a scifi list, 
> but a life sharing list. I can not take credit for nurturing it, but I 
> am glad it happened. I think you should be applauding yourselves. 
> 
> Martin wrote:
> > Three cheers for Tracey!
> >
> > Hip-hip HOORAY!
> >
> > Hip-hip HOORAY!
> >
> > Hip-hip HOORAY!
> >
> > Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
God bless you, Martin. I think we do that for each other. You
know, I
> > played football on a
> > team in Newark, NJ after I got out of the Air Force. I was
primarily a
> > defensive safety, and
> > we were one tough team! And you know where our strength came
from? Each
> > other.
> > 
> > See, when we huddled before each play, we held hands. So much
strength and
> > support flowed
> > between us...
> > 
> > That's what I feel here, with all of us. 
> > 
> > I think it's pretty cool that we started with a shared passion,
and that has
> > grown into what we have, 
> > with the passion still our glue, of course.
> > 
> > And kudos to Mama Tracey for nurturing our deviations from the
main subject,
> > and allowing us to
> > become so close...
> > 
> > Maurice Jennings
> > Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
> > KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
> > Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation =>
http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _ 
> > 
> > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Martin
> > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 1:55 PM
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Twins separated at birth met and married
> > 
> > Reece, your words give me joy every day, and I'm in sore need of
it these
> > days. I'm beginning to look at you as a role model.
> > 
> > Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com>
yahoo.com>
> > wrote: Sigh...I know. I tend to attempt to lighten up potentially
> > painful/heavy
> > subjects
> > with sick humor...a gift I developed during my cop days...LOL!
> > 
> > And Martin, I know I don't have to say this to you, but I'm sure
you know my
> > twisted humor is in NO way meant to take anything away from the very
> > human and touching parts of your life. In fact, they hit home for
me...
> > 
> > I have a son who was born April 15, 1968. I was preparing to head
to the
> > Philippines.
> > 
> > He was born David William Jennings. At 8 months, he was adopted,
and his
> > name
> > was changed. I won't put it here. You never know...well, until
1998, I had
> > no idea
> > what his adopted name was, or anything about him. Then I stumbled
across
> > his mother.
> > We had a brief connection in 1967 (what a choice of word!) that
lead to her
> > pregnancy. 
> > 
> > I did a search of his name on the fledgling internet, and 2 names
popped up.
> > A VERY unique
> > first and last name helped, so I called the Junior name. My son
answered,
> > and I gently probed
> > until I found out he had no idea that I existed. So...I dropped the
> > 'F'-bomb (FATHER) on him.
> > 
> > "I am your biological father." I gave him information about me.
He, of
> > course, was blown out.
> > He said he couldn't talk right then. About 5 hours later I
received a phone
> > call from a very blunt,
> > intense woman. She grilled me about his mother, our meeting,
where the mom
> > was from...during the
> > conversation...I mean interrogation...I figured that she was his
wife. It
> > wasn't like she didn't give me clues...
> > "What are you to my husband?" was a big one! After about 30
minutes, I
> > guess she saw that I wasn't the 
> > least bit defensive, I answered every painful question she had.
So she
> > handed the phone to my son.
> > 
> > We talked, shared information, laughed, and marveled at how
parallel our
> > lives were. That is the ONLY
> > conversation we have ever had. It was summer 1998. I have sent
him letters
> > and pictures, and he has
> > responded with the same. It turns out

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Twins separated at birth met and married

[Martin]

Well, they always told me that musicians had it made in the romance department. 
Been a guitarist since thirteen. I'm still waiting, myself.

ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  THIS reminds me when kind, 
gentle, grandfatherly B.B. King was on the
Good Morning America show and Diane Sawyer innocently asked him how
many children he had. The look on her face when he said
"Twenty-seven" was priceless.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> When I first saw this story, my thoughts immediately went to Howling
Wolf, the legendary blues singer. Years after his death, two people
in- Toledo, I believe it was- met, fell in love and planned to marry.
They got the necessary blood tests well ahead of time, which told them
that they were half-sister and -brother, through Wolf. Seems that he,
like many old-time musicians, liked to spread the love around, and he
had nine children by nine different women in Toledo alone. Those kids
began a search for more siblings, and came up with, at present, 80
total siblings.
> 
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:50pm EST
> 
> LONDON (Reuters) - A couple discovered after they had married that they 
> were twins who had been split up at birth and adopted by separate 
> families, according to a member of Britain's House of Lords.
> 
> British peer David Alton recounted the story to parliament last
month to 
> support his argument that artificially conceived children should be
told 
> who their biological parents are.
> 
> Alton said he had heard the story of the separated twins from a High 
> Court judge who had dealt with the case.
> 
> "This did not involve in vitro fertilization: It involved the normal 
> birth of twins who were separated at birth and adopted by separate 
> parents," said Alton, an independent member of the Lords. "They were 
> never told that they were twins."
> 
> "They met later in life and felt an inevitable attraction, and the
judge 
> had to deal with the consequences of the marriage that they entered
into 
> and all the issues of their separation," he said.
> 
> "I suspect that it will be a matter of litigation in the future if
we do 
> not make information of this kind available to children who have been 
> donor-conceived," he said.
> 
> Alton could not immediately be reached for comment and no further 
> information was available about the twins or where they were from.
> 
> "I think it's a very tragic story for the people involved," said Pam 
> Hodgkins, head of a group that helps adults affected by adoption.
> 
> "It is a lesson that we need to learn and apply to the situation of 
> donor-conceived children," she told Sky News.
> 
> "Whilst ... nowadays it would be most unusual for siblings to be 
> separated ... the risk of secrecy affecting the lives of people born as 
> a result of egg and sperm donation is exactly the same as the risks
that 
> have affected adopted people in the past," she said.
> 
> (Reporting by Adrian Croft; Editing by Stephen Addison)
> http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSEIC17037920080111
> 
> 
> 
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