Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman
very true. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:59:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman I think the problem with memorization is that it opens up the door for memory lapses and distortions. Books make things more stable. In a digital world in our current state, things are a lot more fluid. Pictures, audio, video, can all be modified, changed, distorted. Dead actors can appear in new commercials etc. In the right situation it can make figuring out the truth impossible. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I worry about that too. By the way, I was listening to an NPR show on that recently. the guest mentioned that, when the ability to mass produce books was developed, some people decried the ease with which words could be written down, because books would destroy our ability to remember things! They actually thought the concept of people having to remember large amounts of history was better for the mind--and these were Europeans saying this! - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:42:11 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman I think that books will go on to exist in some form or another. People were probably thinking the same thing when books replaced scrolls. The problem that I have been worried about is that we are not really passing on antiques to the next generation. Only electronic gadgets. There really hasn't been many new painters out there. Only in digital form which will not be passed on. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I wonder if and when the day will ever come when we are truly a paperless socieity, with all comics and books on digital readers like Kendle? If that day ever comes, will people even value first-run digital comics and the like? A hundred years from now, will someone be paying a million bucks for the digital version of a comic created now? Typically value is based on scarcity for such things, and if they can be copied indefinitely, what does that do to concepts of value? Personally, I think/hope that books will never really go away. For one thing, i doubt any time soon that the whole of the Earth will get to the point to make digital readers practical. most of the Earth is still frankly living in what we'd call poverty, and many people even in the future would find the need to keep battery-powered devices all the time cumbersome. i love my ipods and stuff, but you can't beat a good old fashioned book when you're camping or hiking or something, and don't want to worry about power supplies. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:58:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman How much is that worth now? On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.supermantv.net/articles/ali.htm Superman vs. Muhammad Ali (full name All-New Collectors' Edition: Superman vs. Muhammad Ali) is an oversize comic book published by DC Comics in 1978. The 72-page book, retailing for $2.50, features Superman teaming up with the heavyweight boxing champion Muhammad Ali to defeat an alien invasion of Earth. It was based on an original story by Dennis O'Neil which was adapted by Neal Adams, with pencils by Adams, and figure inks by Dick Giordano with background inks by Terry Austin. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo ! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman
I wonder if and when the day will ever come when we are truly a paperless socieity, with all comics and books on digital readers like Kendle? If that day ever comes, will people even value first-run digital comics and the like? A hundred years from now, will someone be paying a million bucks for the digital version of a comic created now? Typically value is based on scarcity for such things, and if they can be copied indefinitely, what does that do to concepts of value? Personally, I think/hope that books will never really go away. For one thing, i doubt any time soon that the whole of the Earth will get to the point to make digital readers practical. most of the Earth is still frankly living in what we'd call poverty, and many people even in the future would find the need to keep battery-powered devices all the time cumbersome. i love my ipods and stuff, but you can't beat a good old fashioned book when you're camping or hiking or something, and don't want to worry about power supplies. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:58:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman How much is that worth now? On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.supermantv.net/articles/ali.htm Superman vs. Muhammad Ali (full name All-New Collectors' Edition: Superman vs. Muhammad Ali) is an oversize comic book published by DC Comics in 1978. The 72-page book, retailing for $2.50, features Superman teaming up with the heavyweight boxing champion Muhammad Ali to defeat an alien invasion of Earth. It was based on an original story by Dennis O'Neil which was adapted by Neal Adams, with pencils by Adams, and figure inks by Dick Giordano with background inks by Terry Austin. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo ! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman
I think that books will go on to exist in some form or another. People were probably thinking the same thing when books replaced scrolls. The problem that I have been worried about is that we are not really passing on antiques to the next generation. Only electronic gadgets. There really hasn't been many new painters out there. Only in digital form which will not be passed on. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I wonder if and when the day will ever come when we are truly a paperless socieity, with all comics and books on digital readers like Kendle? If that day ever comes, will people even value first-run digital comics and the like? A hundred years from now, will someone be paying a million bucks for the digital version of a comic created now? Typically value is based on scarcity for such things, and if they can be copied indefinitely, what does that do to concepts of value? Personally, I think/hope that books will never really go away. For one thing, i doubt any time soon that the whole of the Earth will get to the point to make digital readers practical. most of the Earth is still frankly living in what we'd call poverty, and many people even in the future would find the need to keep battery-powered devices all the time cumbersome. i love my ipods and stuff, but you can't beat a good old fashioned book when you're camping or hiking or something, and don't want to worry about power supplies. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:58:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman How much is that worth now? On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.supermantv.net/articles/ali.htm Superman vs. Muhammad Ali (full name All-New Collectors' Edition: Superman vs. Muhammad Ali) is an oversize comic book published by DC Comics in 1978. The 72-page book, retailing for $2.50, features Superman teaming up with the heavyweight boxing champion Muhammad Ali to defeat an alien invasion of Earth. It was based on an original story by Dennis O'Neil which was adapted by Neal Adams, with pencils by Adams, and figure inks by Dick Giordano with background inks by Terry Austin. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman
I worry about that too. By the way, I was listening to an NPR show on that recently. the guest mentioned that, when the ability to mass produce books was developed, some people decried the ease with which words could be written down, because books would destroy our ability to remember things! They actually thought the concept of people having to remember large amounts of history was better for the mind--and these were Europeans saying this! - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:42:11 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman I think that books will go on to exist in some form or another. People were probably thinking the same thing when books replaced scrolls. The problem that I have been worried about is that we are not really passing on antiques to the next generation. Only electronic gadgets. There really hasn't been many new painters out there. Only in digital form which will not be passed on. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I wonder if and when the day will ever come when we are truly a paperless socieity, with all comics and books on digital readers like Kendle? If that day ever comes, will people even value first-run digital comics and the like? A hundred years from now, will someone be paying a million bucks for the digital version of a comic created now? Typically value is based on scarcity for such things, and if they can be copied indefinitely, what does that do to concepts of value? Personally, I think/hope that books will never really go away. For one thing, i doubt any time soon that the whole of the Earth will get to the point to make digital readers practical. most of the Earth is still frankly living in what we'd call poverty, and many people even in the future would find the need to keep battery-powered devices all the time cumbersome. i love my ipods and stuff, but you can't beat a good old fashioned book when you're camping or hiking or something, and don't want to worry about power supplies. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:58:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman How much is that worth now? On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.supermantv.net/articles/ali.htm Superman vs. Muhammad Ali (full name All-New Collectors' Edition: Superman vs. Muhammad Ali) is an oversize comic book published by DC Comics in 1978. The 72-page book, retailing for $2.50, features Superman teaming up with the heavyweight boxing champion Muhammad Ali to defeat an alien invasion of Earth. It was based on an original story by Dennis O'Neil which was adapted by Neal Adams, with pencils by Adams, and figure inks by Dick Giordano with background inks by Terry Austin. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo ! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman
I think the problem with memorization is that it opens up the door for memory lapses and distortions. Books make things more stable. In a digital world in our current state, things are a lot more fluid. Pictures, audio, video, can all be modified, changed, distorted. Dead actors can appear in new commercials etc. In the right situation it can make figuring out the truth impossible. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I worry about that too. By the way, I was listening to an NPR show on that recently. the guest mentioned that, when the ability to mass produce books was developed, some people decried the ease with which words could be written down, because books would destroy our ability to remember things! They actually thought the concept of people having to remember large amounts of history was better for the mind--and these were Europeans saying this! - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:42:11 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman I think that books will go on to exist in some form or another. People were probably thinking the same thing when books replaced scrolls. The problem that I have been worried about is that we are not really passing on antiques to the next generation. Only electronic gadgets. There really hasn't been many new painters out there. Only in digital form which will not be passed on. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I wonder if and when the day will ever come when we are truly a paperless socieity, with all comics and books on digital readers like Kendle? If that day ever comes, will people even value first-run digital comics and the like? A hundred years from now, will someone be paying a million bucks for the digital version of a comic created now? Typically value is based on scarcity for such things, and if they can be copied indefinitely, what does that do to concepts of value? Personally, I think/hope that books will never really go away. For one thing, i doubt any time soon that the whole of the Earth will get to the point to make digital readers practical. most of the Earth is still frankly living in what we'd call poverty, and many people even in the future would find the need to keep battery-powered devices all the time cumbersome. i love my ipods and stuff, but you can't beat a good old fashioned book when you're camping or hiking or something, and don't want to worry about power supplies. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:58:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ali vs. Superman How much is that worth now? On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.supermantv.net/articles/ali.htm Superman vs. Muhammad Ali (full name All-New Collectors' Edition: Superman vs. Muhammad Ali) is an oversize comic book published by DC Comics in 1978. The 72-page book, retailing for $2.50, features Superman teaming up with the heavyweight boxing champion Muhammad Ali to defeat an alien invasion of Earth. It was based on an original story by Dennis O'Neil which was adapted by Neal Adams, with pencils by Adams, and figure inks by Dick Giordano with background inks by Terry Austin. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
