RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
Mr Worf, I grew up in Virginia, and the person who introduced me to hoghead cheese and tripe was my great-uncle JT, Deity rest him well. He was a farmer, originally from Mississippi, if memory serves, and he brought his mother's entire cookbook with him when he left home after she passed away, when he was 16. My great-aunt Maggie (Deity rest her well also) was a great cook in her own right, but she willingly admitted that he taught her a few tricks in the kitchen. Eating at their house was non-stop fun. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:20:36 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole I have eaten hoghead cheese back when I was a kid. A couple of times it was good, but it didn't taste right when I got older and I haven't touched it since. I have also heard about the eggs and tripe before too. She must be from Texas or Louisiana? On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Food is a funny thing. My significant other told me today that she was having hogshead cheese for lunch. Do any of you know what hogshead cheese is? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_cheese). Further, she told me how her mother used to scramble cow's brains in her eggs. And don't get me started on eggs (chicken embryos? really?). ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:  Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole Richard Owen in Rome �43 Commentshttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article7029058.ece#comment-have-your-say http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article7029058.ece#none [image: Beppe Bigazzi] Beppe Bigazzi says cat is better than chicken http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/xxx A top Italian food writer has been suspended indefinitely from the country�s version of the television programme Ready Steady Cook for recommending stewed cat to viewers as a �succulent dish�. RAI, the public broadcasting network, said that it had dropped Beppe Bigazzi, 77, for offering the recipe on La Prova del Cuoco, which is broadcast at midday on the main channel. Its switchboard was inundated with complaints from viewers and animal rights groups. Bigazzi said that casserole of cat was a famous dish in his home region of Valdarno, Tuscany. �I�ve eaten it myself and it�s a lot better than many other animals,� he told viewers. �Better than chicken, rabbit or pigeon.� He said that for optimum flavour the meat should be �soaked in spring water for three days� before being stewed. Elisa Isoardi, the programme�s presenter � who has a cat called Othello � tried to steer Bigazzi off the subject. Reports said that during the commercial break she and the show�s producers tried to persuade him to apologise to viewers but he refused. Related Links �ITV fined for butchery of I�m a Celebrity rat http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article7020369.ece �Cats and dogs to be taken off menu in China http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7003032.ece Carla Rocchi, the head of ENPA, the Italian society for the protection of animals, said that killing cats was illegal. Francesca Martini, the Deputy Health Minister, said it was �absolutely unheard of for a public service broadcaster to tell people how delicious cats are to eat�. She called for the producers to be investigated for criminal offences involving incitement to mistreat animals. Bigazzi, a consumer affairs journalist and author of Cooking with Common Sense, has been one of the stars of La Prova del Cuoco for the past ten years. He is noted for his exuberant style and previously caused uproar by boiling lobsters live on the show. Yesterday he said that he had only been joking about the recipe, and he had been misunderstood. He added: �Mind you, I wasn�t joking all that much. In the 1930s and 1940s, when I was a boy, people certainly did eat cat in the countryside around Arezzo.� Food historians said that Italians in cities such as Vicenza devised cat recipes in times of economic hardship. Inhabitants of Vicenza are still nicknamed magnagati (cat eaters), and in some butchers� shops rabbits are sold with their heads to assure buyers that they are not cats. *From pet to pot* � In his 1529 treatise on cookery, Ruperto de Nola recommended spit-roasting cat basted with garlic and olive oil. He wrote: �Take
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
My father still eats hoghead cheese on occasion. On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, I grew up in Virginia, and the person who introduced me to hoghead cheese and tripe was my great-uncle JT, Deity rest him well. He was a farmer, originally from Mississippi, if memory serves, and he brought his mother's entire cookbook with him when he left home after she passed away, when he was 16. My great-aunt Maggie (Deity rest her well also) was a great cook in her own right, but she willingly admitted that he taught her a few tricks in the kitchen. Eating at their house was non-stop fun. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:20:36 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole I have eaten hoghead cheese back when I was a kid. A couple of times it was good, but it didn't taste right when I got older and I haven't touched it since. I have also heard about the eggs and tripe before too. She must be from Texas or Louisiana? On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Food is a funny thing. My significant other told me today that she was having hogshead cheese for lunch. Do any of you know what hogshead cheese is? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_cheese). Further, she told me how her mother used to scramble cow's brains in her eggs. And don't get me started on eggs (chicken embryos? really?). ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:  Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole Richard Owen in Rome �43 Comments http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article7029058.ece#comment-have-your-say http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article7029058.ece#none [image: Beppe Bigazzi] Beppe Bigazzi says cat is better than chicken http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/xxx A top Italian food writer has been suspended indefinitely from the country�s version of the television programme Ready Steady Cook for recommending stewed cat to viewers as a �succulent dish�. RAI, the public broadcasting network, said that it had dropped Beppe Bigazzi, 77, for offering the recipe on La Prova del Cuoco, which is broadcast at midday on the main channel. Its switchboard was inundated with complaints from viewers and animal rights groups. Bigazzi said that casserole of cat was a famous dish in his home region of Valdarno, Tuscany. �I�ve eaten it myself and it�s a lot better than many other animals,� he told viewers. �Better than chicken, rabbit or pigeon.� He said that for optimum flavour the meat should be �soaked in spring water for three days� before being stewed. Elisa Isoardi, the programme�s presenter � who has a cat called Othello � tried to steer Bigazzi off the subject. Reports said that during the commercial break she and the show�s producers tried to persuade him to apologise to viewers but he refused. Related Links �ITV fined for butchery of I�m a Celebrity rat http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article7020369.ece �Cats and dogs to be taken off menu in China http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7003032.ece Carla Rocchi, the head of ENPA, the Italian society for the protection of animals, said that killing cats was illegal. Francesca Martini, the Deputy Health Minister, said it was �absolutely unheard of for a public service broadcaster to tell people how delicious cats are to eat�. She called for the producers to be investigated for criminal offences involving incitement to mistreat animals. Bigazzi, a consumer affairs journalist and author of Cooking with Common Sense, has been one of the stars of La Prova del Cuoco for the past ten years. He is noted for his exuberant style and previously caused uproar by boiling lobsters live on the show. Yesterday he said that he had only been joking about the recipe, and he had been misunderstood. He added: �Mind you, I wasn�t joking all that much. In the 1930s and 1940s, when I was a boy, people certainly did eat cat in the countryside around Arezzo.� Food historians said that Italians in cities such as Vicenza devised cat recipes in times of economic hardship. Inhabitants of Vicenza are still nicknamed magnagati (cat eaters), and in some butchers� shops rabbits are sold with their heads to assure buyers that they are not cats. *From pet to pot
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
I was watching an old ep of No Reservations with Anthony Bourdain a few weeks ago, and he was in France, watching hogshead cheese being made. Don't know who was drooling more, him or me. :-) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:34:58 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole My father still eats hoghead cheese on occasion. On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Mr Worf, I grew up in Virginia, and the person who introduced me to hoghead cheese and tripe was my great-uncle JT, Deity rest him well. He was a farmer, originally from Mississippi, if memory serves, and he brought his mother's entire cookbook with him when he left home after she passed away, when he was 16. My great-aunt Maggie (Deity rest her well also) was a great cook in her own right, but she willingly admitted that he taught her a few tricks in the kitchen. Eating at their house was non-stop fun. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:20:36 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole I have eaten hoghead cheese back when I was a kid. A couple of times it was good, but it didn't taste right when I got older and I haven't touched it since. I have also heard about the eggs and tripe before too. She must be from Texas or Louisiana? On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Food is a funny thing. My significant other told me today that she was having hogshead cheese for lunch. Do any of you know what hogshead cheese is? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_cheese). Further, she told me how her mother used to scramble cow's brains in her eggs. And don't get me started on eggs (chicken embryos? really?). ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:  Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole Richard Owen in Rome �43 Commentshttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article7029058.ece#comment-have-your-say http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article7029058.ece#none [image: Beppe Bigazzi] Beppe Bigazzi says cat is better than chicken http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/xxx A top Italian food writer has been suspended indefinitely from the country�s version of the television programme Ready Steady Cook for recommending stewed cat to viewers as a �succulent dish�. RAI, the public broadcasting network, said that it had dropped Beppe Bigazzi, 77, for offering the recipe on La Prova del Cuoco, which is broadcast at midday on the main channel. Its switchboard was inundated with complaints from viewers and animal rights groups. Bigazzi said that casserole of cat was a famous dish in his home region of Valdarno, Tuscany. �I�ve eaten it myself and it�s a lot better than many other animals,� he told viewers. �Better than chicken, rabbit or pigeon.� He said that for optimum flavour the meat should be �soaked in spring water for three days� before being stewed. Elisa Isoardi, the programme�s presenter � who has a cat called Othello � tried to steer Bigazzi off the subject. Reports said that during the commercial break she and the show�s producers tried to persuade him to apologise to viewers but he refused. Related Links �ITV fined for butchery of I�m a Celebrity rat http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article7020369.ece �Cats and dogs to be taken off menu in China http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7003032.ece Carla Rocchi, the head of ENPA, the Italian society for the protection of animals, said that killing cats was illegal. Francesca Martini, the Deputy Health Minister, said it was �absolutely unheard of for a public service broadcaster to tell people how delicious cats are to eat�. She called for the producers to be investigated for criminal offences involving incitement to mistreat animals. Bigazzi, a consumer affairs journalist and author of Cooking with Common Sense, has been one of the stars of La Prova del Cuoco for the past ten years. He is noted for his exuberant style
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
He loves him some pork. Dude said that he was seriously considering moving to asia after he found a place that made honey roasted pork. I do have to admit that the place looked beautiful. :) On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: I was watching an old ep of No Reservations with Anthony Bourdain a few weeks ago, and he was in France, watching hogshead cheese being made. Don't know who was drooling more, him or me. :-) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:34:58 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole My father still eats hoghead cheese on occasion. On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Mr Worf, I grew up in Virginia, and the person who introduced me to hoghead cheese and tripe was my great-uncle JT, Deity rest him well. He was a farmer, originally from Mississippi, if memory serves, and he brought his mother's entire cookbook with him when he left home after she passed away, when he was 16. My great-aunt Maggie (Deity rest her well also) was a great cook in her own right, but she willingly admitted that he taught her a few tricks in the kitchen. Eating at their house was non-stop fun. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:20:36 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole I have eaten hoghead cheese back when I was a kid. A couple of times it was good, but it didn't taste right when I got older and I haven't touched it since. I have also heard about the eggs and tripe before too. She must be from Texas or Louisiana? On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Food is a funny thing. My significant other told me today that she was having hogshead cheese for lunch. Do any of you know what hogshead cheese is? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_cheese). Further, she told me how her mother used to scramble cow's brains in her eggs. And don't get me started on eggs (chicken embryos? really?). ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:  Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole Richard Owen in Rome �43 Comments http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article7029058.ece#comment-have-your-say http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article7029058.ece#none [image: Beppe Bigazzi] Beppe Bigazzi says cat is better than chicken http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/xxx A top Italian food writer has been suspended indefinitely from the country�s version of the television programme Ready Steady Cook for recommending stewed cat to viewers as a �succulent dish�. RAI, the public broadcasting network, said that it had dropped Beppe Bigazzi, 77, for offering the recipe on La Prova del Cuoco, which is broadcast at midday on the main channel. Its switchboard was inundated with complaints from viewers and animal rights groups. Bigazzi said that casserole of cat was a famous dish in his home region of Valdarno, Tuscany. �I�ve eaten it myself and it�s a lot better than many other animals,� he told viewers. �Better than chicken, rabbit or pigeon.� He said that for optimum flavour the meat should be �soaked in spring water for three days� before being stewed. Elisa Isoardi, the programme�s presenter � who has a cat called Othello � tried to steer Bigazzi off the subject. Reports said that during the commercial break she and the show�s producers tried to persuade him to apologise to viewers but he refused. Related Links �ITV fined for butchery of I�m a Celebrity rat http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article7020369.ece �Cats and dogs to be taken off menu in China http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7003032.ece Carla Rocchi, the head of ENPA, the Italian society for the protection of animals, said that killing cats was illegal. Francesca Martini, the Deputy Health Minister, said it was �absolutely unheard of for a public service broadcaster to tell people how delicious cats are to eat�. She called for the producers to be investigated for criminal offences involving
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
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He's a good writer. I also love his monologues on the show as well. Hmm lets see. Travel the world, drink and eat exotic food, and get paid for it too? Yea, I would say that is a dream job. :) On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: He's got my dream job. Travel and eat and talk about it. -- Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole
I have eaten hoghead cheese back when I was a kid. A couple of times it was good, but it didn't taste right when I got older and I haven't touched it since. I have also heard about the eggs and tripe before too. She must be from Texas or Louisiana? On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: Food is a funny thing. My significant other told me today that she was having hogshead cheese for lunch. Do any of you know what hogshead cheese is? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_cheese). Further, she told me how her mother used to scramble cow's brains in her eggs. And don't get me started on eggs (chicken embryos? really?). ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:  Celebrity chef Beppe Bigazzi upsets viewers with his cat casserole Richard Owen in Rome �43 Comments http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article7029058.ece#comment-have-your-say http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article7029058.ece#none [image: Beppe Bigazzi] Beppe Bigazzi says cat is better than chicken http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/xxx A top Italian food writer has been suspended indefinitely from the country�s version of the television programme Ready Steady Cook for recommending stewed cat to viewers as a �succulent dish�. RAI, the public broadcasting network, said that it had dropped Beppe Bigazzi, 77, for offering the recipe on La Prova del Cuoco, which is broadcast at midday on the main channel. Its switchboard was inundated with complaints from viewers and animal rights groups. Bigazzi said that casserole of cat was a famous dish in his home region of Valdarno, Tuscany. �I�ve eaten it myself and it�s a lot better than many other animals,� he told viewers. �Better than chicken, rabbit or pigeon.� He said that for optimum flavour the meat should be �soaked in spring water for three days� before being stewed. Elisa Isoardi, the programme�s presenter � who has a cat called Othello � tried to steer Bigazzi off the subject. Reports said that during the commercial break she and the show�s producers tried to persuade him to apologise to viewers but he refused. Related Links �ITV fined for butchery of I�m a Celebrity rat http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article7020369.ece �Cats and dogs to be taken off menu in China http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7003032.ece Carla Rocchi, the head of ENPA, the Italian society for the protection of animals, said that killing cats was illegal. Francesca Martini, the Deputy Health Minister, said it was �absolutely unheard of for a public service broadcaster to tell people how delicious cats are to eat�. She called for the producers to be investigated for criminal offences involving incitement to mistreat animals. Bigazzi, a consumer affairs journalist and author of Cooking with Common Sense, has been one of the stars of La Prova del Cuoco for the past ten years. He is noted for his exuberant style and previously caused uproar by boiling lobsters live on the show. Yesterday he said that he had only been joking about the recipe, and he had been misunderstood. He added: �Mind you, I wasn�t joking all that much. In the 1930s and 1940s, when I was a boy, people certainly did eat cat in the countryside around Arezzo.� Food historians said that Italians in cities such as Vicenza devised cat recipes in times of economic hardship. Inhabitants of Vicenza are still nicknamed magnagati (cat eaters), and in some butchers� shops rabbits are sold with their heads to assure buyers that they are not cats. *From pet to pot* � In his 1529 treatise on cookery, Ruperto de Nola recommended spit-roasting cat basted with garlic and olive oil. He wrote: �Take the garlic with oil mixed with good broth so that it is coarse, and pour it over the cat and you can eat it for it is a good dish� � The Spanish expression pasar gato por liebre derives from the practice of hunters trying to sell skinned cats as hares. When butchered, the animals are supposed to look almost identical � In 2007 Australians at a cooking contest in Alice Springs sought to curb the feral cat population by using them in a dish. One judge found the cat casserole so tough that she had to spit it out � Last month legal experts in China responded to pressure from the country�s middle class and proposed a ban on eating cat and dog meat. Both are traditional Chinese dishes but if the law is passed people caught eating cats could face 15 days in prison Sources: agencies, florilegium.org, statemaster.com