Re: [scifinoir2] Re: No More Sci Fiction at Scifi.com
I wnet there the first time I learned of its existence, bac`k in '05. Frankly, I didn't find anything to keep me there. Maybe I didn't look long or hard enough... being_marian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quite often. In fact, I have a SF workshop member that has a story out there. After I saw this on boingboing, I went and downloaded a few more to read. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Show of hands- who actually went to the site? Even *once* counts... > > Brent Wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/ > > "As of Friday, June 15, 2007, SCI FICTION will no longer be availabe on > SCIFI.COM. > SCIFI.COM would like to thank all those who contributed > and those who read the short stories over the past few years." > > > > > > > "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A Country" > > - > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A Country" - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: No More Sci Fiction at Scifi.com
I *do* like those anthologies. I own about six of them. Old age, amybe? Senility? Stupidity? Pick your factor today. being_marian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, the editor was Ellen Datlow before the SF channel decided to drop publishing fiction. I've liked her choices for best fantasy of the year and for Omni. If you didn't like those books/magazine perhaps you might not have liked what she chose for the online magazine. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wnet there the first time I learned of its existence, bac`k in '05. Frankly, I didn't find anything to keep me there. Maybe I didn't look long or hard enough... > > being_marian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quite often. In fact, I have a SF workshop member that has a story out > there. > > After I saw this on boingboing, I went and downloaded a few more to > read. > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin wrote: > > > > Show of hands- who actually went to the site? Even *once* counts... > > > > Brent Wodehouse Brent_Wodehouse@ wrote: > http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/ > > > > "As of Friday, June 15, 2007, SCI FICTION will no longer be availabe > on > > SCIFI.COM. > > SCIFI.COM would like to thank all those who contributed > > and those who read the short stories over the past few years." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will > get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man > Without A Country" > > > > - > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A Country" > > - > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A Country" - TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: No More Sci Fiction at Scifi.com
This is a lot like when OMNI shut down...the first thing people asked was "well, who was really reading this magazine anyway?" and the fact is, a LOT of people were reading Omni, but the publisher marketed their soft porn titles better, so the rate base was larger, hence they could sell more ads. Much is the same with scifi.com as a whole. When Ronald Moore was doing the BSG podcasts, people were going to the site. Right now, there's wrestling and cheezy horror movies on the channel, so why would I go to the site? The people who WERE going to read the fiction on site can't compare to the people who are going to download episodes/wallpaper about "Heroes", so it's seen as a segment of the property that isn't worth keeping. Media companies are completely missing the boat when it comes to using sci-fi to reach audiences and sell advertising. The science fiction fan is a dedicated consumer who, generally speaking, will buy products and services that are relevant to their lives and interests. And, apparently, we will spend more to get them. WE are the target consumer for a hybrid car. WE are the only ones who care about the filtration capabilities of an HVAC system. Science fiction people will stand on line for an hour to see a crappy sequel to a movie we've seen 1000 times. If you're trying to unload a new cellphone, why roll the dice advertising during "Real World"? There is a Golf Channel because luxury brands can't reach the same audience with that level of disposable income while advertising during "Will & Grace". And so there is a staff that understands what it takes to reach this audience and how to not piss them off. There should be a similar sensitivity where people who are interested in sci-fi are concerned. Sci-fi is treated in TV media as this throw away segment of the viewing audience, just a joke. "those geeks sure are dedicated". Yes, they are. Sci-fi people buy more movie tickets on a regular basis than any other segment. Killing the fiction from sci-fi.com is a mistake. It shows that the science and speculative fiction audience isn't being taken seriously. And arguably, that's our own fault. However...it's also an opportunity! This is a chance for someone with a jazzy url to become a new home for science fiction writing to be published online. A new "Omni" magazine online would be great, and now would be a good time to bring it on! On Jun 14, 2007, at 9:22 AM, being_marian wrote: > > Quite often. In fact, I have a SF workshop member that has a story out > there. > > After I saw this on boingboing, I went and downloaded a few more to > read. > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Show of hands- who actually went to the site? Even *once* counts... > > > > Brent Wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/ > > > > "As of Friday, June 15, 2007, SCI FICTION will no longer be availabe > on > > SCIFI.COM. > > SCIFI.COM would like to thank all those who contributed > > and those who read the short stories over the past few years." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels > will > get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man > Without A Country" > > > > - > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
