Re: [scifinoir2] Xmen question
Does the Wiki entry mention the total rape that the AK suffered at the hands of Fabian Nicieza during the Gulf War? I'm still annoyed at that. As it stands, you're more likely to be bombarded with cosmic rays and given superpowers than meet an Arab superhero in the Marvel universe. Justin On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting a crash course in Marvel characters tonight! How can people keep up with so many characters? I was just looking at all of the offshoots such as Marvel UK. (Captain Britain) There is another universe of characters right there. Whew! Another interesting thing is there are Arab and Afghan characters in the Marvel universe. Such as the Arabian knight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_Knight_%28comics%29 And Dust, a burqa wearing woman from Afghanistan that can transform into a dust storm : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_%28comics%29 I also started reading about X-23. Lots of interesting characters! X-23 info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-23 On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM, jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote: Mr. Worf, I would say that it is a matter stream of exotic particles. From the comics and the movies we know that it generates no heat, no radiation, no electrical or magnetic fields. It can manipulate molecules and it has concussive shock power. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 19:37:08 -0800 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Xmen question What kind of light beam comes out of Cyclop's eyes? If it is plasma couldn't Magneto control the beam? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: scifinoir2-dig...@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: scifinoir2-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Nope. It doesn't go that in depth with the Arabian knight. I think the team called Illuminati were responisble for exiling Hulk off of the planet in Planet Hulk. http://marvel.com/universe/Illuminati On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Justin Mohareb justinmoha...@gmail.comwrote: Does the Wiki entry mention the total rape that the AK suffered at the hands of Fabian Nicieza during the Gulf War? I'm still annoyed at that. As it stands, you're more likely to be bombarded with cosmic rays and given superpowers than meet an Arab superhero in the Marvel universe. Justin On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting a crash course in Marvel characters tonight! How can people keep up with so many characters? I was just looking at all of the offshoots such as Marvel UK. (Captain Britain) There is another universe of characters right there. Whew! Another interesting thing is there are Arab and Afghan characters in the Marvel universe. Such as the Arabian knight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_Knight_%28comics%29 And Dust, a burqa wearing woman from Afghanistan that can transform into a dust storm : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_%28comics%29 I also started reading about X-23. Lots of interesting characters! X-23 info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-23 On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM, jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote: Mr. Worf, I would say that it is a matter stream of exotic particles. From the comics and the movies we know that it generates no heat, no radiation, no electrical or magnetic fields. It can manipulate molecules and it has concussive shock power. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 19:37:08 -0800 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Xmen question What kind of light beam comes out of Cyclop's eyes? If it is plasma couldn't Magneto control the beam? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Xmen question
They were, Mr Worf. If memory serves, the decision temporarily split the Illuminati apart, with them reforming only to address the threat of Normie Osborn. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/
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IMO, the highlight of Byrne's career was the way he turned Sue's character around. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/
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I'd take Magneto's powers as well. He could stop anyone's blood flow, if it struck him. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:29:25 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Xmen question In the original Handbook, it was posited that Magneto might be living proof of a Unified Field Theory, because he could do things that weren't strictly related to manipulation of metal. Mags is one of the Marvel characters whose power i'd like to have were such a thing possible. It's range of uses, offensive/defensive capabilities, and sheer power are impressive. Others whose abilities I covet would include Storm (that lightning/tornadic wind ability is devastating), Graviton (like Magneto, vastly powerful, and able to warp spacetime due to his power), and Sue Storm (that forcefield power has way more potential than shown even to this point) - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 3:50:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Xmen question Mr Worf, the question's been answered several time sover, but I can't help but wonder, as a physicist, why Mags can't manipulate his eyebeams in some fashion. If the Theory of Everything that's been posited by studies holds true, then Mags' magnetic powers should be able to do something with them. But then, it's something I've never considered, being more an FF fan than an X-fan. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/
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I would like to see some of the female characters written from a woman's perspective. I wonder if the characters would do things differently? On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: IMO, the highlight of Byrne's career was the way he turned Sue's character around. -- Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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Mr Worf, not long ago, a woman was writing Wonder Woman (can't recall her name, unfortunately). No idea whether it was any good under her run, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:51:39 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Xmen question I would like to see some of the female characters written from a woman's perspective. I wonder if the characters would do things differently? On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: IMO, the highlight of Byrne's career was the way he turned Sue's character around. Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/
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I would think that a woman would handle things a little bit differently sometimes than fighting. Maybe a little more intrigue. On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: Mr Worf, not long ago, a woman was writing Wonder Woman (can't recall her name, unfortunately). No idea whether it was any good under her run, though. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:51:39 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Xmen question I would like to see some of the female characters written from a woman's perspective. I wonder if the characters would do things differently? On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: IMO, the highlight of Byrne's career was the way he turned Sue's character around. -- Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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That's how I write most of my female characters. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/
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Yeah, he's awesome. I'd take Graviton's powers first, though, because he could deflect even Magnus' powers by simply manipulating spacetime. At his height, he can detect all objects on the planet. Just to test his powers, he honed in on a lady in Australia, then sent a pebble through her brain from thousands of miles away--just to prove he could. Graviton can levitate whole cities--several at once, and is well nigh invincible...physically. I believe Moonstone used her twisted psychological skills to jack with his self-confidence, his only Achilles' Heel. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2010 3:51:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Xmen question I'd take Magneto's powers as well. He could stop anyone's blood flow, if it struck him. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:29:25 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Xmen question In the original Handbook, it was posited that Magneto might be living proof of a Unified Field Theory, because he could do things that weren't strictly related to manipulation of metal. Mags is one of the Marvel characters whose power i'd like to have were such a thing possible. It's range of uses, offensive/defensive capabilities, and sheer power are impressive. Others whose abilities I covet would include Storm (that lightning/tornadic wind ability is devastating), Graviton (like Magneto, vastly powerful, and able to warp spacetime due to his power), and Sue Storm (that forcefield power has way more potential than shown even to this point) - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 3:50:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Xmen question Mr Worf, the question's been answered several time sover, but I can't help but wonder, as a physicist, why Mags can't manipulate his eyebeams in some fashion. If the Theory of Everything that's been posited by studies holds true, then Mags' magnetic powers should be able to do something with them. But then, it's something I've never considered, being more an FF fan than an X-fan. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.
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I'm getting a crash course in Marvel characters tonight! How can people keep up with so many characters? I was just looking at all of the offshoots such as Marvel UK. (Captain Britain) There is another universe of characters right there. Whew! Another interesting thing is there are Arab and Afghan characters in the Marvel universe. Such as the Arabian knight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_Knight_%28comics%29 And Dust, a burqa wearing woman from Afghanistan that can transform into a dust storm : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_%28comics%29 I also started reading about X-23. Lots of interesting characters! X-23 info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-23 On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM, jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote: Mr. Worf, I would say that it is a matter stream of exotic particles. From the comics and the movies we know that it generates no heat, no radiation, no electrical or magnetic fields. It can manipulate molecules and it has concussive shock power. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- *From: * Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com *Date: *Mon, 1 Feb 2010 19:37:08 -0800 *To: *scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *[scifinoir2] Xmen question What kind of light beam comes out of Cyclop's eyes? If it is plasma couldn't Magneto control the beam? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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Can I just say that I love this conversation. These are that types of conversations I used to have with my friends back in school and its really good to see that my friends and I are not the only ones to think of these things. Jeff On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting a crash course in Marvel characters tonight! How can people keep up with so many characters? I was just looking Canat all of the offshoots such as Marvel UK. (Captain Britain) There is another universe of characters right there. Whew! Another interesting thing is there are Arab and Afghan characters in the Marvel universe. Such as the Arabian knight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_Knight_%28comics%29 And Dust, a burqa wearing woman from Afghanistan that can transform into a dust storm : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_%28comics%29 I also started reading about X-23. Lots of interesting characters! X-23 info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-23 On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM, jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote: Mr. Worf, I would say that it is a matter stream of exotic particles. From the comics and the movies we know that it generates no heat, no radiation, no electrical or magnetic fields. It can manipulate molecules and it has concussive shock power. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- *From: * Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com *Date: *Mon, 1 Feb 2010 19:37:08 -0800 *To: *scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *[scifinoir2] Xmen question What kind of light beam comes out of Cyclop's eyes? If it is plasma couldn't Magneto control the beam? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Xmen question
Mr Worf, the question's been answered several time sover, but I can't help but wonder, as a physicist, why Mags can't manipulate his eyebeams in some fashion. If the Theory of Everything that's been posited by studies holds true, then Mags' magnetic powers should be able to do something with them. But then, it's something I've never considered, being more an FF fan than an X-fan. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/
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In the original Handbook, it was posited that Magneto might be living proof of a Unified Field Theory, because he could do things that weren't strictly related to manipulation of metal. Mags is one of the Marvel characters whose power i'd like to have were such a thing possible. It's range of uses, offensive/defensive capabilities, and sheer power are impressive. Others whose abilities I covet would include Storm (that lightning/tornadic wind ability is devastating), Graviton (like Magneto, vastly powerful, and able to warp spacetime due to his power), and Sue Storm (that forcefield power has way more potential than shown even to this point) - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 3:50:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Xmen question Mr Worf, the question's been answered several time sover, but I can't help but wonder, as a physicist, why Mags can't manipulate his eyebeams in some fashion. If the Theory of Everything that's been posited by studies holds true, then Mags' magnetic powers should be able to do something with them. But then, it's something I've never considered, being more an FF fan than an X-fan. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now.
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Who is Sue Storm? On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: In the original Handbook, it was posited that Magneto might be living proof of a Unified Field Theory, because he could do things that weren't strictly related to manipulation of metal. Mags is one of the Marvel characters whose power i'd like to have were such a thing possible. It's range of uses, offensive/defensive capabilities, and sheer power are impressive. Others whose abilities I covet would include Storm (that lightning/tornadic wind ability is devastating), Graviton (like Magneto, vastly powerful, and able to warp spacetime due to his power), and Sue Storm (that forcefield power has way more potential than shown even to this point) - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 3:50:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Xmen question Mr Worf, the question's been answered several time sover, but I can't help but wonder, as a physicist, why Mags can't manipulate his eyebeams in some fashion. If the Theory of Everything that's been posited by studies holds true, then Mags' magnetic powers should be able to do something with them. But then, it's something I've never considered, being more an FF fan than an X-fan. -- Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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My bad, should have said Susan Storm-Richards, Reed Richards' wife, aka The Invisible Woman. Her maiden name is Storm. As you may know, back when the FF debuted in the '60s, Susan was portrayed as a typical woman of the time, as written by men: a shrinking violet, prone to hysterics, not that bright, leaning on her man for guidance. If you can ever read some of the old comics or see the great 'toon from that time, you'll laugh/groan at how many times she yells Oh Reed! What do we do? In the first comics, all Sue could do was turn invisible, which basically made her a weak woman who'd hide in times of danger, then nervously take on the bad guys in that state. Later on she was given a forcefield, but even then she'd basically cower behind it as the bad guys attacked, waiting for Reed's instructions. However, during John Byrnes great 80's run on the FF, Sue was taken over by a malevolent being called Malice, which turned her into an aggressive, hate filled person. The struggle to overcome and defeat the possession resulted in her emerging more confident and independent. She changed her name from the Invisible Girl to the Invisible Woman, and began using her forcefield in more offensive ways rather than just as a shield. There is one comic in which she is taking on Dr. Doom on a ship of his, and snarls Doom! Tell me what I want to know or I'll tear this place apart. Doom replies, Indeed, you might be able to do so. I am forced to admit that you, who've I've long regarded as the weakest member of your team, may well be the most powerful. It is now accepted that Susan is indeed the most powerful member of the FF. With her forcefield, she could trap, suffocate, crush, squeeze, decapitate, hurl, eviscerate her fellows pretty quickly. As times have changed and women are treated with more balance, writers have also made Sue an intelligent, confident businesswoman, as well as a capable fighter and team leader in the FF. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 6:33:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Xmen question Who is Sue Storm? On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: In the original Handbook, it was posited that Magneto might be living proof of a Unified Field Theory, because he could do things that weren't strictly related to manipulation of metal. Mags is one of the Marvel characters whose power i'd like to have were such a thing possible. It's range of uses, offensive/defensive capabilities, and sheer power are impressive. Others whose abilities I covet would include Storm (that lightning/tornadic wind ability is devastating), Graviton (like Magneto, vastly powerful, and able to warp spacetime due to his power), and Sue Storm (that forcefield power has way more potential than shown even to this point) - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 3:50:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Xmen question Mr Worf, the question's been answered several time sover, but I can't help but wonder, as a physicist, why Mags can't manipulate his eyebeams in some fashion. If the Theory of Everything that's been posited by studies holds true, then Mags' magnetic powers should be able to do something with them. But then, it's something I've never considered, being more an FF fan than an X-fan. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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I always believed that women have been portrayed as underpowered in comics and still are. Even women with equal power end up being portayed as weaker. The only exception is planet Hulk. The Red King's bodyguard is just as powerful as hulk and has fighting skills and psyonic powers. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: My bad, should have said Susan Storm-Richards, Reed Richards' wife, aka The Invisible Woman. Her maiden name is Storm. As you may know, back when the FF debuted in the '60s, Susan was portrayed as a typical woman of the time, as written by men: a shrinking violet, prone to hysterics, not that bright, leaning on her man for guidance. If you can ever read some of the old comics or see the great 'toon from that time, you'll laugh/groan at how many times she yells Oh Reed! What do we do? In the first comics, all Sue could do was turn invisible, which basically made her a weak woman who'd hide in times of danger, then nervously take on the bad guys in that state. Later on she was given a forcefield, but even then she'd basically cower behind it as the bad guys attacked, waiting for Reed's instructions. However, during John Byrnes great 80's run on the FF, Sue was taken over by a malevolent being called Malice, which turned her into an aggressive, hate filled person. The struggle to overcome and defeat the possession resulted in her emerging more confident and independent. She changed her name from the Invisible Girl to the Invisible Woman, and began using her forcefield in more offensive ways rather than just as a shield. There is one comic in which she is taking on Dr. Doom on a ship of his, and snarls Doom! Tell me what I want to know or I'll tear this place apart. Doom replies, Indeed, you might be able to do so. I am forced to admit that you, who've I've long regarded as the weakest member of your team, may well be the most powerful. It is now accepted that Susan is indeed the most powerful member of the FF. With her forcefield, she could trap, suffocate, crush, squeeze, decapitate, hurl, eviscerate her fellows pretty quickly. As times have changed and women are treated with more balance, writers have also made Sue an intelligent, confident businesswoman, as well as a capable fighter and team leader in the FF. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 6:33:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Xmen question Who is Sue Storm? On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: In the original Handbook, it was posited that Magneto might be living proof of a Unified Field Theory, because he could do things that weren't strictly related to manipulation of metal. Mags is one of the Marvel characters whose power i'd like to have were such a thing possible. It's range of uses, offensive/defensive capabilities, and sheer power are impressive. Others whose abilities I covet would include Storm (that lightning/tornadic wind ability is devastating), Graviton (like Magneto, vastly powerful, and able to warp spacetime due to his power), and Sue Storm (that forcefield power has way more potential than shown even to this point) - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 3:50:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Xmen question Mr Worf, the question's been answered several time sover, but I can't help but wonder, as a physicist, why Mags can't manipulate his eyebeams in some fashion. If the Theory of Everything that's been posited by studies holds true, then Mags' magnetic powers should be able to do something with them. But then, it's something I've never considered, being more an FF fan than an X-fan. -- Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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Oh yeah, Cairea the Oldstrong. Well, she was up there with Hulk while his powers were still depleted, but by the time he was back to full strength, he was way stronger. Still, that clash between them, when she channeled the planet's power into that blow against him, was awesome! I think Storm has been portrayed pretty strongly over the years. She quickly became a leader of the X-Men. Janet Van Dyne--the Wasp--saw a major change in her character. She went from being a silly socialite who was pushed around and ultimately abused by Hank Pym, to a confident woman who became an effective leader of the Avengers. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 7:36:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Xmen question I always believed that women have been portrayed as underpowered in comics and still are. Even women with equal power end up being portayed as weaker. The only exception is planet Hulk. The Red King's bodyguard is just as powerful as hulk and has fighting skills and psyonic powers. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: My bad, should have said Susan Storm-Richards, Reed Richards' wife, aka The Invisible Woman. Her maiden name is Storm. As you may know, back when the FF debuted in the '60s, Susan was portrayed as a typical woman of the time, as written by men: a shrinking violet, prone to hysterics, not that bright, leaning on her man for guidance. If you can ever read some of the old comics or see the great 'toon from that time, you'll laugh/groan at how many times she yells Oh Reed! What do we do? In the first comics, all Sue could do was turn invisible, which basically made her a weak woman who'd hide in times of danger, then nervously take on the bad guys in that state. Later on she was given a forcefield, but even then she'd basically cower behind it as the bad guys attacked, waiting for Reed's instructions. However, during John Byrnes great 80's run on the FF, Sue was taken over by a malevolent being called Malice, which turned her into an aggressive, hate filled person. The struggle to overcome and defeat the possession resulted in her emerging more confident and independent. She changed her name from the Invisible Girl to the Invisible Woman, and began using her forcefield in more offensive ways rather than just as a shield. There is one comic in which she is taking on Dr. Doom on a ship of his, and snarls Doom! Tell me what I want to know or I'll tear this place apart. Doom replies, Indeed, you might be able to do so. I am forced to admit that you, who've I've long regarded as the weakest member of your team, may well be the most powerful. It is now accepted that Susan is indeed the most powerful member of the FF. With her forcefield, she could trap, suffocate, crush, squeeze, decapitate, hurl, eviscerate her fellows pretty quickly. As times have changed and women are treated with more balance, writers have also made Sue an intelligent, confident businesswoman, as well as a capable fighter and team leader in the FF. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 6:33:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Xmen question Who is Sue Storm? On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: In the original Handbook, it was posited that Magneto might be living proof of a Unified Field Theory, because he could do things that weren't strictly related to manipulation of metal. Mags is one of the Marvel characters whose power i'd like to have were such a thing possible. It's range of uses, offensive/defensive capabilities, and sheer power are impressive. Others whose abilities I covet would include Storm (that lightning/tornadic wind ability is devastating), Graviton (like Magneto, vastly powerful, and able to warp spacetime due to his power), and Sue Storm (that forcefield power has way more potential than shown even to this point) - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 3:50:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Xmen question Mr Worf, the question's been answered several time sover, but I can't help but wonder, as a physicist, why Mags can't manipulate his eyebeams in some fashion. If the Theory of Everything that's been posited by studies holds true, then Mags' magnetic powers should be able to do something with them. But then, it's something I've never considered, being more an FF fan than an X-fan. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany
Re: [scifinoir2] Xmen question
The Marvel Handbook classified it as concussive energy; i.e., though they look like (and were inspired by) laser beams, they actually convey concussive force, not heat energy. In effect, his beams punch or bludgeon things with force, as if they were battering rams or bullets. When his beams go through an object--say, putting a hole in the side of a building--they're therefore *punching* through the building, not burning through it. The Handbook in the '80s theorized he somehow tapped into energy that consisted of gravitons forced into orbit around photons, hence, a light beam that generates force, not heat. Indeed, there was a book in which the Fantastic Four was fighting what they thought were the X-Men. Cyclops hit the Thing in the back, and the Thing says Hey, that burns!, then he thinks Waitaminute. I've been on the receiving end of Cyclops' eyebeams before, and they don't burn. Turns out it was a Skrull masquerading as Cyclops, who used an energy beam, not realizing that Cyclops' eyebeams functioned differently. As I said, they were obviously inspired by the classic ruby laser that had just come out in the '60s. Note that his beams can be blocked by ruby quartz crystal. This is similar to how laser beams can be bounced/blocked by mirrors. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 10:37:08 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Xmen question What kind of light beam comes out of Cyclop's eyes? If it is plasma couldn't Magneto control the beam? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Xmen question
Mr. Worf, I would say that it is a matter stream of exotic particles. From the comics and the movies we know that it generates no heat, no radiation, no electrical or magnetic fields. It can manipulate molecules and it has concussive shock power. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 19:37:08 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Xmen question What kind of light beam comes out of Cyclop's eyes? If it is plasma couldn't Magneto control the beam? -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
