MUSCLE SIM cards outside Europe?

1999-04-22 Thread Morten Norman

Need an update here, since my last experience of AMPS/DAMPS etc. is *old*.

In Europe, GSM is very common.  Thus the GSM SIM  is a *very* widespread
T=0 smartcard...

(SIM = Subscriber Identity Module.  I get it from the cellular operator, and
can use it in *any* GSM phone.  It also stores my short numbers and SMS data.)

But how common are SIM cards in other countries?  Are there AMPS/DAMPS etc.
cellulars using smartcards, or are they still "locked" to the subscriber?


If the SIMs are common everywhere, it may be worth using them as "poor mans
smartcards" since they are easy to get.  They more or less have a 7816-4
filesystem for numbers etc, and PIN protection.

Thanks

Morten Norman

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Re: MUSCLE SIM cards outside Europe?

1999-04-22 Thread Tarun Upadhyay

Morten Norman wrote:

 But how common are SIM cards in other countries?  Are there AMPS/DAMPS etc.
 cellulars using smartcards, or are they still "locked" to the subscriber?
in India, where I live, SIM cards are common in cell phones. We do some
basic 'smart programing' on them. And recently they have introduced SIMs
that are not locked to the customer. 
I dont know much about them. But if you want I can find out.

 If the SIMs are common everywhere, it may be worth using them as "poor mans
 smartcards" since they are easy to get.  They more or less have a 7816-4
 filesystem for numbers etc, and PIN protection.
That reminds me. What is SIM flex made by Schlumberger? Is it not
somewhere between a smartcard and SIM card? They are used a lot in
India.

with warm regards
Tarun


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MUSCLE BOUNCE Alex alexmail@spider.pilosoft.com]

1999-04-22 Thread David Corcoran


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AFAIK, no cellular phone system other than GSM uses smartcards for SIM
storage. There are however some GSM providers (bellsouth in southwest, and
OmniPoint in northeast), but GSM coverage is still spotty. 

Neither CDMA nor TDMA uses smartcards, nor will CDMA v2 use them.

-alex

On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Morten Norman wrote:

 Need an update here, since my last experience of AMPS/DAMPS etc. is *old*.
 
 In Europe, GSM is very common.  Thus the GSM SIM  is a *very* widespread
 T=0 smartcard...
 
 (SIM = Subscriber Identity Module.  I get it from the cellular operator, and
 can use it in *any* GSM phone.  It also stores my short numbers and SMS data.)
 
 But how common are SIM cards in other countries?  Are there AMPS/DAMPS etc.
 cellulars using smartcards, or are they still "locked" to the subscriber?
 
 
 If the SIMs are common everywhere, it may be worth using them as "poor mans
 smartcards" since they are easy to get.  They more or less have a 7816-4
 filesystem for numbers etc, and PIN protection.
 
 Thanks
 
 Morten Norman
 
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