Re: [Scons-dev] [Scons-users] Can we drop windows native installers if pip install works?
In my opinion, installers has for a long time been the "windows way" to do it. And I think if I found out today that something didn't provide an installer, I'd expect the windows support to be poor, which is really not the case. But I might be too old school. Todays windows has apps and an app store. It even has nuget and chocolatey. Modern windows users might be more ready for this than I think. Den 10. april 2017 00:15:11 CEST, skrev Bill Deegan : >Greetings, > >Assuming we can resolve issues with pip install, can we drop the >windows >(32 & 64bit) native installers? > >Thoughts. > >-Bill -- Sendt fra min Android-enhet med K-9 E-post. Vennligst unnskyld min kortfattethet.___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
Re: [Scons-dev] [Scons-users] Can we drop windows native installers if pip install works?
I don’t think it will be hard to fix the pip install issue. A given we change SCons to install like a normal python app. Even then using the msi builder vs the exe builder makes a big difference as well. I have been slacking ( well busy on different fronts) so I have not finished the work on the pip installer. I will try to get a pip file finished soon. Jason From: Scons-users [mailto:scons-users-boun...@scons.org] On Behalf Of Ivan Nedrehagen via Scons-users Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2017 6:28 PM To: SCons users mailing list ; Bill Deegan ; SCons developer list Cc: Ivan Nedrehagen Subject: Re: [Scons-users] Can we drop windows native installers if pip install works? In my opinion, installers has for a long time been the "windows way" to do it. And I think if I found out today that something didn't provide an installer, I'd expect the windows support to be poor, which is really not the case. But I might be too old school. Todays windows has apps and an app store. It even has nuget and chocolatey. Modern windows users might be more ready for this than I think. Den 10. april 2017 00:15:11 CEST, skrev Bill Deegan mailto:b...@baddogconsulting.com>>: Greetings, Assuming we can resolve issues with pip install, can we drop the windows (32 & 64bit) native installers? Thoughts. -Bill -- Sendt fra min Android-enhet med K-9 E-post. Vennligst unnskyld min kortfattethet. ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
Re: [Scons-dev] [Scons-users] Can we drop windows native installers if pip install works?
On Sun, 2017-04-09 at 18:15 -0400, Bill Deegan wrote: > Greetings, > > Assuming we can resolve issues with pip install, can we drop the > windows > (32 & 64bit) native installers? > > Thoughts. I am not a Windows user and therefore have no right to a view on this. I will say though that the Groovy community continues to create a Windows installer even though there are other ways of installing Groovy. -- Russel. = Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.win...@ekiga.net 41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: rus...@winder.org.uk London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
Re: [Scons-dev] [Scons-users] Can we drop windows native installers if pip install works?
And in some controlled environments, there might be no access to internet. A self contained installer is still the best solution in this situation. -- Alexandre Féblot > Le 10 avr. 2017 à 09:31, Russel Winder a écrit : > >> On Sun, 2017-04-09 at 18:15 -0400, Bill Deegan wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> Assuming we can resolve issues with pip install, can we drop the >> windows >> (32 & 64bit) native installers? >> >> Thoughts. > > I am not a Windows user and therefore have no right to a view on this. > I will say though that the Groovy community continues to create a > Windows installer even though there are other ways of installing > Groovy. > > -- > Russel. > = > Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.win...@ekiga.net > 41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: rus...@winder.org.uk > London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder > ___ > Scons-dev mailing list > Scons-dev@scons.org > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
Re: [Scons-dev] [Scons-users] Can we drop windows native installers if pip install works?
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 3:36 AM, Alexandre Feblot < alexandre.feb...@gmail.com> wrote: > And in some controlled environments, there might be no access to internet. > A self contained installer is still the best solution in this situation. That's not an issue. Pip will happily install from a zip file, tarball, cloned git repo, etc. There is no internet access requirement to use Pip. A lot of Windows users will, out of habit, come looking for "setup.exe", but considering Pip comes pre-installed with Python 2.7 and up these days, it'd be trivial to 'pip install scons'. ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
Re: [Scons-dev] [Scons-users] Can we drop windows native installers if pip install works?
As a Windows user, I'd be very happy if pip install were the only proper way to install it going forward. Yes, sometimes I'd want to do it locally, but using pip is fine. On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:15 AM, Jonathon Reinhart < jonathon.reinh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 3:36 AM, Alexandre Feblot < > alexandre.feb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> And in some controlled environments, there might be no access to >> internet. A self contained installer is still the best solution in this >> situation. > > > That's not an issue. Pip will happily install from a zip file, tarball, > cloned git repo, etc. There is no internet access requirement to use Pip. > > A lot of Windows users will, out of habit, come looking for "setup.exe", > but considering Pip comes pre-installed with Python 2.7 and up these days, > it'd be trivial to 'pip install scons'. > > ___ > Scons-dev mailing list > Scons-dev@scons.org > https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev > > -- Gary ___ Scons-dev mailing list Scons-dev@scons.org https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/scons-dev
