Re: [scots-l] Re: ABCs

[Jack Campin]

>> T:Fluffy Thing
>> C:Jack Campin  2004
>> M:6/8
>> L:1/8
>> K:A Lydian
>> A2e e3|d2A e3 |A2 e e3 |=g2^g a3 |
>> A2e e3|d2A e3 |ag=g e2d| ed`e a3:|
>> f2d e3|aga f2d|f2 d e3 | ag`a b3 |
>> b2d e3|agf f2e|ag=g e2d| ed`e a3:|
> Good one - about a cat by any chance?

Nope.  One other person knows what it means and she ain't telling.


> What's the symbol between the d and the e (| ed`e |) mean?

It's a spacer.  Allows you to align notes without breaking beams;
the ` character wasn't being used for anything and is usefully
inconspicuous.  I suggested it as addition to the ABC standard
about a year ago and (uniquely for an ABC proposal in my experience)
it was instantly agreed to and implemented by all the developers
within a few days.  You could do the same thing before, using non-
breaking space characters, but no two OSes used the same codes
for those.

It resolves a conflict between ABC readability and the readability
of the staff notation generated from that ABC.  Not very significant
here, but it lets you show what parallels what (or not) in tunes
like this:

X:2
T:Mrs Hamilton of Pencaitland
S:William Shepherd: A Collection of Strathspey Reels &c
B:NLS Glen.345(1)
N:copy inscribed to his brother the Rev John Shepherd, 13 June 1793
M:2/4
L:1/16
K:D
.F2.F2`.G2.G2| ef`ge (dc).B.A|\
.F2.F2`.G2.G2| ef/g/  ec Td4:|
Tfe`fg (fg/)a/ fd|(ef/g/) ec  dA``FD |\
Tfe`fg (fg/a/) fd|(ef/g/) ec Td4:|

or this:

X:53
T:Lord Mayo
S:Smollett Holden, A Collection of Favorite Irish Airs [1806]
B:NLS Glen.398
M:C
L:1/8
Q:1/4=80 "Slow"
K:G Dorian
 GF | D>`G  (G/A/)c  d2   cA | d2   G>A GFD2 |\
  D``G  (G/A/)c  d2   f>d| d>c``A>G G2  :|
 d2 |(f``d)`(fg) a2  (gf)|(dc) (d/e/f)  F>G``(FD)|\
 (f``d)`(fg) a2  (gf)| d2  (g```a)  g2
(ag)| f``d```fg  a2   gf |(dc) (d/e/f) (F>G)`(FD)|\
  D>(G```c)``(A  G)F`(fd)| d>c``A>G G2  |]

(You probably know that one from Tim O'Leary - he plays it lower,
in E minor, and his first part is different).

Or in this sort of tune (a minuet, more or less) the usual beaming
ties six quavers in a bar together but spacing the beats out makes
the ABC easier to read:

X:82
T:The Flower of the Thorn
M:3/4
L:1/8
S:Brian McNeill
H:Welsh, from Jones c.1812
K:A Minor
E2|A4B2|c2 B2 A2|e2 dc`BA| B4 E2|A2 Ac`Bd|c2 B2 A2|^G2^GB`Ac|B4   :|
B2|c3  B c2|d3  c d2|e4f2| e4 ed|cB`cd c2|dc`de d2| ed`ed`ef|g3 fed|
   cB`cd`ec|dc`de`fd|e2 e2 a2|^g4 b2|a2 e2 c2|f2 e2 d2| c2 dc`Bc|A4   |]



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Re: [scots-l] Re: ABCs

[Jack Campin]

Still a bit slow here?...

Here's another tune in the same vague category as Nigel's.
I wrote it a few months ago.

X:1
T:Fluffy Thing
C:Jack Campin  2004
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:A Lydian
A2e e3|d2A e3 |A2 e e3 |=g2^g a3 |
A2e e3|d2A e3 |ag=g e2d| ed`e a3:|
f2d e3|aga f2d|f2 d e3 | ag`a b3 |
b2d e3|agf f2e|ag=g e2d| ed`e a3:|

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Re: [scots-l] Re: ABCs

[Jack Campin]

> Now, guys, see if you can pick this one apart. It started
> as a fingering exercise and very quickly became a tune. 
>
>
> X:735
> T:Untitled
> C:Nigel Gatherer Nov 2004
> Z:Nigel Gatherer
> L:1/8
> M:6/8
> K:Am
> EAB cBA | FAB cBA | ^FAB cBA | ^GAB GAB  |
> EAB cBA | FAB cBA | ^FAB cBA | ^GAB cde ||
> fdB Bcd | ecA ABc | B^GE EGB | AcA ^cde  |
> fdB Bcd | ecA ABc | B^GE EGB | BA^G A3  ||

It'd make a nice companion tune to "Jump at the Sun".

I'd prefer a bit more chromatic weirdness in bars 3 and 7, though:

X:735
T:Untitled
C:Nigel Gatherer Nov 2004
Z:Nigel Gatherer
L:1/8
M:6/8
K:Am
EAB cBA|FAB cBA|^FAB =F^FA|^GAB  GAB |
EAB cBA|FAB cBA|^FAB =F^FA|^GAB  cde||
fdB Bcd|ecA ABc| B^GE EGB | AcA ^cde |
fdB Bcd|ecA ABc| B^GE EGB | BA^G A3 ||

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Re: [scots-l] Re: ABCs

[Matt Seattle]

> Matt spots the deliberate mistake this week - glad you're awake, Matt!

Yes Nigel, but I was really wondering whether it should be mixolydian
rather than dorian - ?
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Re: [scots-l] Re: ABCs

[Cliff Abrams]

"The Heights of Cassino" seems to be consistently in
Dmaj. See The Session.org for abc, sheetmusic and a
fascinating discussion of the WWII battle. The
postings, rather new, may have come out of this
discussion. Except for a note or two, the Session
version is, for example, identical to the setting in
Ceol na Fidhle -- Highland tunes for the Fiddle,
Volume Three, page 23.

http://thesession.org/tunes/display.php/3833

CA
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Re: [scots-l] Re: ABCs

[Steve Wyrick]

I suspect it should be E dorian? -Steve


Matt Seattle wrote:

> Nigel, are you sure you got the mode right for Cassino? Sounds decidedly
> odd IMHO!
> Best
> Matt
> 
> Nigel Gatherer wrote:
> 
>> X:720
>> T:Heights of Cassino, The
>> S:As played by Iain MacInnes (Smalltalk)
>> Z:Nigel Gatherer
>> M:6/8
>> L:1/8
>> K:Ador
>> B/c/ | E>EE EBA | B>BB B2A | BFD |
>>E>EE EBA | c2E  c2B | A3-  A2  :|
>> c/d/ | e>cA c3   | c2e  c>BA | B>BB B2A | BFD |
>>e>cA c3   | c2e  c>BA | c2E  c2B | A3-  A2
>> c/d/ | e>cA c3   | c2e  c>BA | B>BB B2A | BFD |
>>E>EE EBA | c2E  c2B | A3-  A2  ||
>> z| E3   F>ED | E>EE c3   | c2e c>BA | BFD |
>>E3   F>ED | E>EE c3   | c2E  c2B | A3-  A2  :|
>> c/d/ | e>cA A>Bc | E>EE c3   | c2e c>BA | BFD |
>>e>cA A>Bc | E>EE c3   | c2E  c2B | A3-  A2
>> c/d/ | e>cA A>Bc | E>EE c3   | c2e c>BA | BFD |
>>E3   F>ED | E>EE c3   | c2E  c2B | A3-  A2  ||
>> 
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Re: [scots-l] Re: ABCs

[Eva Aralikatti]

Oh, that´s why! I already thew it away, because I had it
played by a program which can play abcs and I thought it sounds so weird,
I do not even want to bother try playing it ;-)
Eva

At 12:01 09.11.2004, you wrote:
Nigel, are you sure you got the
mode right for Cassino? Sounds decidedly
odd IMHO!
Best
Matt
Nigel Gatherer wrote:
> X:720
> T:Heights of Cassino, The
> S:As played by Iain MacInnes (Smalltalk)
> Z:Nigel Gatherer
> M:6/8
> L:1/8
> K:Ador
> B/c/ | E>EE EBA | B>BB B2A | BFD |
>    E>EE EBA | c2E  c2B | A3-  A2  :|
> c/d/ | e>cA c3   | c2e  c>BA | B>BB B2A |
BFD |
>    e>cA c3   |
c2e  c>BA | c2E  c2B | A3-  A2
> c/d/ | e>cA c3   | c2e  c>BA | B>BB B2A |
BFD |
>    E>EE EBA | c2E  c2B | A3-  A2  ||
> z    | E3   F>ED | E>EE
c3   | c2e c>BA | BFD |
>    E3   F>ED |
E>EE c3   | c2E  c2B | A3-  A2  :|
> c/d/ | e>cA A>Bc | E>EE c3   | c2e c>BA |
BFD |
>    e>cA A>Bc | E>EE
c3   | c2E  c2B | A3-  A2
> c/d/ | e>cA A>Bc | E>EE c3   | c2e c>BA |
BFD |
>    E3   F>ED |
E>EE c3   | c2E  c2B | A3-  A2  ||
> 
> --
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Re: [scots-l] Re: ABCs

[Matt Seattle]

Nigel, are you sure you got the mode right for Cassino? Sounds decidedly
odd IMHO!
Best
Matt

Nigel Gatherer wrote:

> X:720
> T:Heights of Cassino, The
> S:As played by Iain MacInnes (Smalltalk)
> Z:Nigel Gatherer
> M:6/8
> L:1/8
> K:Ador
> B/c/ | E>EE EBA | B>BB B2A | BFD |
>E>EE EBA | c2E  c2B | A3-  A2  :|
> c/d/ | e>cA c3   | c2e  c>BA | B>BB B2A | BFD |
>e>cA c3   | c2e  c>BA | c2E  c2B | A3-  A2
> c/d/ | e>cA c3   | c2e  c>BA | B>BB B2A | BFD |
>E>EE EBA | c2E  c2B | A3-  A2  ||
> z| E3   F>ED | E>EE c3   | c2e c>BA | BFD |
>E3   F>ED | E>EE c3   | c2E  c2B | A3-  A2  :|
> c/d/ | e>cA A>Bc | E>EE c3   | c2e c>BA | BFD |
>e>cA A>Bc | E>EE c3   | c2E  c2B | A3-  A2
> c/d/ | e>cA A>Bc | E>EE c3   | c2e c>BA | BFD |
>E3   F>ED | E>EE c3   | c2E  c2B | A3-  A2  ||
> 
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Re: [scots-l] Re: ABCs

[BEVLAWTON]

In a message dated 07/11/04 20:51:44 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Oops. Private email sent to list (hi Derek). It is a sad reflection of
the state of the list that nobody has metaphorically flayed me for this
digression. Not even a flyting from Rev Adkins. Och. Crivvens. 



It's OK Nigel we all realise you are in your dottage and these little things happen ;-)
Even if we give you a hard time you will have probably forgotten who said what by the time you reply !!!
Bev