Re: [Scottish] allowing a large newborn sea-mammal to collide witha rocky plane toid object devoid of atmosphere somewhere in another galaxy

2003-03-21 Thread Gordon JC Pearce

 
  A white noise source connected to the sound card input would be a good
  truly random number generator.
 
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 Now all we need to be able to do is create a true white noise source.
 Probably the best way to achieve this is to get a computer with a good
 software random number generator to produce random numbers and output them
 from a soundcard :).
 
 Thanks,
 
 Allan

*Pink* noise then, pedant. :-)
Cheers,
  Gordon

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Re: [Scottish] allowing a large newborn sea-mammal to collide with a rocky plane toid object devoid of atmosphere somewhere in another galaxy

2003-03-21 Thread Mike Quin
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 09:21:37AM + or thereabouts, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:

 A white noise source connected to the sound card input would be a good
 truly random number generator.

Or take the approach that SGI came up with - point a camera at a lava
lamp or two.

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RE: [Scottish] allowing a large newborn sea-mammal to collide with a rocky plane toid object devoid of atmosphere somewhere in another galaxy

2003-03-21 Thread Ian Drake, IT, CIR, SE Dunbartonshire

 A white noise source connected to the sound card input would be a good
 truly random number generator.

Or take the approach that SGI came up with - point a camera at a lava
lamp or two.

or what about building a chip with a few hundred gates about 0.01 microns
apart - let those little quantums produce the randomness.


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[Scottish] ADSL router with no-nat configuration

2003-03-21 Thread Tam McLaughlin
Hi,
I am having problems setting up a solwise SAR110 adsl router with a no-nat 
configuration and wonder if anyone here has set up an adsl router with a 
similar config. I simply want to connect the router to our smoothwall and 
have been allocated an address range of 4 ip addresses. The problem seems to 
be with the default route not going through the ppp interface.

Our ISP said they cannot help, despite having tutorials for no-nat setups for 
two other types of modems but not this supplied one.

I was able to set up the router with the standard nat option ok, but according 
to the ISP, to set it up as no-nat, all I need to do is configure  eth-0 with 
appropriate ip address/mask from range supplied.

To test this, I have set up a laptop with the other useable ip address/mask 
and the laptop and router can talk to one another. 
The router gets authenticated and connected to the ISP network (As confirmed 
by support) and sets up some dynamic routes. 
I have tried configuring the router by leaving the ip address of the ppp 
interface blank, which automatically gets allocated the correct ip address on 
connection and also set the ip address manually on the ppp interface.

This is the routing table with a no-nat config where:

address range: 212.159.29.4/30
dns: 212.159.11.150, 212.159.13.150
---
Destination   netmask   next hopifname  type 
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 195.166.128.11   eth-0   indirect
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0  127.0.0.1lo-0direct
195.166.128.11  255.255.255.255  212.159.29.5  eth-0   indirect
212.159.11.150  255.255.255.255  195.166.128.11  eth-0   indirect
212.159.13.159  255.255.255.255  195.166.128.11  eth-0   indirect
212.159.29.4 255.255.255.252   212.159.29.5  eth-0  direct
212.159.29.5255.255.255.255127.0.0.1   lo-o   direct


the routing table with the nat config is similar but the default route is via
ppp-0

0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 195.166.128.11   ppp-0   indirect
195.166.128.11  255.255.255.255  212.159.29.5  ppp-0   direct


The configuration (web and CLI) does not allow me to specify the interface 
when adding or modifying routes. 
Support also gave me instructions on adding a BIMAP nat rule which does not
work either.

Any help would be appreciated.



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Re: [Scottish] FW: VPN

2003-03-21 Thread ray
Hi Keith;
 I've never setup a VPN before but am I right in thinking that all that's
 needed is the right software and two static ip addresses
With a 'nix box at each end that's about it.  It gets a little more complicated if one 
of the gateways is MS or Cisco.  Most Linux distros will include freeswan for IPsec 
VPN and there is PoPToP to use Linux as a MS VPN Server.

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Re: [Scottish] FW: VPN

2003-03-21 Thread Miah Gregory
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  Keith Stenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've never setup a VPN before but am I right in thinking that all that’s
 needed is the right software and two static ip addresses.

As has been noted previously, only one static ip address is necessary. Two
is a bonus, as you can then restrict the vpn connections on a host by host
basis, increasing security.

 I'm trying to help out a small community group set one up and they have
 received quotes for 11,000 upwards, although I never set a VPN up I
 always thought that it wasn't necessary to get special equipment.

As is the way with a lot of things these days, you can often get both
software and hardware based solutions for the same problems.

 Any advice on this would be much appreciated!

If you have the luxury of two linux/solaris/bsd machines, one for each end
of the link, then I can recommend vtun (http://vtun.sourceforge.net/),
which I use daily. Depending on what you want to do, it can be a little
fiddly to set up, but with a straight tcp based connection, it's pretty
simple.

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Re: [Scottish] FW: VPN

2003-03-21 Thread Colin McKinnon
ray wrote:

Hi Keith;
 

I've never setup a VPN before but am I right in thinking that all that's
needed is the right software and two static ip addresses
   

With a 'nix box at each end that's about it.  It gets a little more complicated if one of the gateways is MS or Cisco.  Most Linux distros will include freeswan for IPsec VPN and there is PoPToP to use Linux as a MS VPN Server.

IPSEC can produce a number of additional complications - it was designed 
around an assumtion of  connecting two (or more) points with fixed 
(real) IP addresses. Although a lot of these problems go away of you 
disable EPA (possible with FreeSwan - not with other implementations 
including MS) there are then implications for securing, configuring and 
authenticating the channel (e.g. opportunistic encryption is not 
available). Last time I checked, it wouldn't use x509 certificates 
either - although for a two site VPN this isn't so much of an issue.

It does work and is reportedly very stable. Since IPSEC is a well 
established standard, it will interoperate with most other 
implementations (but not necessarily in all configurations).

You pays your money and takes your choice. (only you don't - cos its free)

Colin

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Re: [Scottish] [OT] Anybody know about solaris?

2003-03-21 Thread Allan Bruce

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Scottish] [OT] Anybody know about solaris?


 Allan Bruce wrote:
 
 I am hoping to run Netscape on Sun2 but view it on Sun1s desktop (a VNC
 desktop).  The error message is:
 
 Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
 Error: Can't open display: genesis:1
   
 
 Aha. Quick fix, on Sun1, try:
 xhost +sun2

Cheers, thats fixed it
Allan

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RE: [Scottish] Looong Cat5 Cable

2003-03-21 Thread Michael Cameron
Since the forums are not particularly active I'll try here.
Can anyone planning to be at next Thursday's meeting help me out?
I need a 60 metre cat5 cable, and retail prices scare me.
I'm willing to pay any necessary costs (plus tip).
If you can help, can you post an estimated cost?

I seem to recall Micro Warehouse doing 300 metre boxes for about £40.  Is
that too scary?

MC


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Re: [Scottish] ADSL router with no-nat configuration

2003-03-21 Thread Tam McLaughlin
I called the suppliers/manufacturers of the router who told me that
I need 3 useable IP addresses for this particular router to work in a no-nat 
configuration. So looks like I would never have got it working with the info 
the ISP gave me. Hopefully they will increate my address range.



On Friday 21 Mar 2003 10:10 am, Tam McLaughlin wrote:
 Hi,
 I am having problems setting up a solwise SAR110 adsl router with a no-nat
 configuration and wonder if anyone here has set up an adsl router with a
 similar config. I simply want to connect the router to our smoothwall and
 have been allocated an address range of 4 ip addresses. The problem seems
 to be with the default route not going through the ppp interface.

 Our ISP said they cannot help, despite having tutorials for no-nat setups
 for two other types of modems but not this supplied one.

 I was able to set up the router with the standard nat option ok, but
 according to the ISP, to set it up as no-nat, all I need to do is configure
  eth-0 with appropriate ip address/mask from range supplied.

 To test this, I have set up a laptop with the other useable ip address/mask
 and the laptop and router can talk to one another.
 The router gets authenticated and connected to the ISP network (As
 confirmed by support) and sets up some dynamic routes.
 I have tried configuring the router by leaving the ip address of the ppp
 interface blank, which automatically gets allocated the correct ip address
 on connection and also set the ip address manually on the ppp interface.

 This is the routing table with a no-nat config where:

 address range: 212.159.29.4/30
 dns: 212.159.11.150, 212.159.13.150
 ---
 Destination   netmask   next hopifname  type
 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 195.166.128.11   eth-0  
 indirect 127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0  127.0.0.1lo-0
direct 195.166.128.11  255.255.255.255  212.159.29.5  eth-0  
 indirect 212.159.11.150  255.255.255.255  195.166.128.11  eth-0   indirect
 212.159.13.159  255.255.255.255  195.166.128.11  eth-0   indirect
 212.159.29.4 255.255.255.252   212.159.29.5  eth-0  direct
 212.159.29.5255.255.255.255127.0.0.1   lo-o   direct


 the routing table with the nat config is similar but the default route is
 via ppp-0

 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 195.166.128.11   ppp-0  
 indirect 195.166.128.11  255.255.255.255  212.159.29.5  ppp-0   direct


 The configuration (web and CLI) does not allow me to specify the interface
 when adding or modifying routes.
 Support also gave me instructions on adding a BIMAP nat rule which does not
 work either.

 Any help would be appreciated.



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[Scottish] VPN

2003-03-21 Thread Keith Stenson
Hi everyone,

I've never setup a VPN before but am I right in thinking that all that’s
needed is the right software and two static ip addresses.

I'm trying to help out a small community group set one up and they have
received quotes for 11,000 upwards, although I never set a VPN up I
always thought that it wasn't necessary to get special equipment.

Any advice on this would be much appreciated!

Thanks!

Keith.

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Re: [Scottish] [OT] Anybody know about solaris?

2003-03-21 Thread Allan Bruce

- Original Message - 
From: Colin McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Scottish] [OT] Anybody know about solaris?


 Allan Bruce wrote:
 
 I am hoping to run Netscape on Sun2 but view it on Sun1s desktop (a VNC
 desktop).  The error message is:
 
 Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
 Error: Can't open display: genesis:1
   
 
 Aha. Quick fix, on Sun1, try:
 xhost +sun2

Cheers, thats got it working now
Allan

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Re: [Scottish] Looong Cat5 Cable

2003-03-21 Thread ray
On Friday 21 March 2003 14:36, Philip Ward wrote:
 Can anyone planning to be at next Thursday's meeting help me out?
 I need a 60 metre cat5 cable, and retail prices scare me.

If you just want alength of PVC solid core Cat5e/Cat6 with a booted RJ45 at 
each end it will cost you a pint of IPA.  If you are not fussy about the 
exact length I have a few similar in stock. 

I can make a shielded cat5e patch cable (stranded core - more flexible and 
useful near flourescent light units and other noisy environments), but would 
have to make a modest charge as the cable is expensive and it is fiddly to 
put the connectors on by hand.
If you need low halogen/ cable I would need a couple of days notice, because I 
don't have much in stock.

If you are in a hurry 30m patch cables are pretty common and cost about £15 
each (e.g. Tait Components).  You can use a connector or twin faceplate to 
join two. 

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[Scottish] tarring

2003-03-21 Thread Allan Bruce
How on earth do I tar a directory up to a tarfile?
I looked at the man page and it aint working - my head is mush today.  That
teaches me to go out drinking on a work night!!
Thanks
Allan


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Re: [Scottish] tarring

2003-03-21 Thread Miah Gregory
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Allan Bruce wrote:

 How on earth do I tar a directory up to a tarfile?
 I looked at the man page and it aint working - my head is mush today.  That
 teaches me to go out drinking on a work night!!

tar -cf tarfile.tar directory

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Re: [Scottish] tarring

2003-03-21 Thread ray
tar -cvf foo.tar foo_dir

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Re: [Scottish] tarring

2003-03-21 Thread David Irvine

You may want to tar -cvpf foo.tar path/to/directory/

where c creates an empty tar
v tells you what its doing
p preserves permissions
f creates a file 

you can also pipe it into stuff for example

tar -cvpf - /var |gzip|ssh

hth

David


On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 16:40, Allan Whiteford wrote:
  On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Allan Bruce wrote:
 
  How on earth do I tar a directory up to a tarfile?






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Re: [Scottish] allowing a large newborn sea-mammal to collide witha rocky plane toid object devoid of atmosphere somewhere in another galaxy

2003-03-21 Thread Thomas Figg


On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Mike Quin wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 09:21:37AM + or thereabouts, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:

  A white noise source connected to the sound card input would be a good
  truly random number generator.

 Or take the approach that SGI came up with - point a camera at a lava
 lamp or two.

curses, beaten to it. it was at lavarand.sgi.com and I saw it back in t3
yeaaars ago. still want to recreate it myself.

anyway, its now at lavarnd.org


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