[SMW-devel] Query result rewrite
Hey, While working on my dev workshop for SMWCon, I noticed it is currently rather impossible to write a sane unit test for a result format. The reasons for this are that the result object, SMWQueryResult and the objects it is composed of, contain a ton of stuff not relevant to those tests, including database access to get the actual results. I figured it'd be good to have a cleaner interface that can be used by new code, and demonstrated in the workshop. So I'm now working on creating a fresh implementation of the result objects, that will be available as an alternative to the current way of doing things to result printer authors. In other words, this will not be a compatibility breaking change, the current approach will remain usable for the foreseeable future. This is just a heads up I'm going to work on this, no real work has happened yet. I'll be linking the code here as soon as there is something substantial to look at. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Query result rewrite
Well, yes, that's what I meant - though I guess it depends on (a) how likely this new code is to stay in SMW in its current form, (b) when it would be released as part of a stable version, and (c) how different this new interface is from the current one. But my vote would still be to teach the old thing, regardless. Just my opinion, though. -Yaron On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: This will exist when I give the tutorial. Are you saying that it should be in a released SMW version first? Sent from my HTC one X. -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Query result rewrite
Hey, The point of this workshop is not to teach people SMW interfaces. The amount of ground that can be covered in a one hour workshop aimed at beginners is rather small. So however this is done, people will still not know nearly all interfaces. So even if it was the case that this was likely to change, which it is not, I'd not see it make much of a difference. People still get to learn the workflow and they still get to learn how to find things out while creating an SMW extension, which is the whole point. If you have a suggestion for something that is not a result format that could be created as part of the workshop, and that interfaces with code that does not prevent writing tests for the new code, then I'd be happy to hear about it. There is the Ask library, though that is likely to abstract for much of the audience. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Query result rewrite
Hi, Well, you make a strong case. And no, I think doing a result format makes a lot of sense. Good luck! -Yaron On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: Hey, The point of this workshop is not to teach people SMW interfaces. The amount of ground that can be covered in a one hour workshop aimed at beginners is rather small. So however this is done, people will still not know nearly all interfaces. So even if it was the case that this was likely to change, which it is not, I'd not see it make much of a difference. People still get to learn the workflow and they still get to learn how to find things out while creating an SMW extension, which is the whole point. If you have a suggestion for something that is not a result format that could be created as part of the workshop, and that interfaces with code that does not prevent writing tests for the new code, then I'd be happy to hear about it. There is the Ask library, though that is likely to abstract for much of the audience. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Query result rewrite
Hi, +1 This last time I had to write a unit test for the table format, I had to bit my hand off to get some sane results. If you can make it in time, don't show them old interface as this one is not going to last and it doesn't improve one's understanding in how to interact with a query format or what that matter with the result itself. Cherrs On 10/25/13, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, While working on my dev workshop for SMWCon, I noticed it is currently rather impossible to write a sane unit test for a result format. The reasons for this are that the result object, SMWQueryResult and the objects it is composed of, contain a ton of stuff not relevant to those tests, including database access to get the actual results. I figured it'd be good to have a cleaner interface that can be used by new code, and demonstrated in the workshop. So I'm now working on creating a fresh implementation of the result objects, that will be available as an alternative to the current way of doing things to result printer authors. In other words, this will not be a compatibility breaking change, the current approach will remain usable for the foreseeable future. This is just a heads up I'm going to work on this, no real work has happened yet. I'll be linking the code here as soon as there is something substantial to look at. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
