Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Status of faceted search for SMW
Hi Yury, There are, of course, a number of existing faceted search solutions that don't require any patches: - The Semantic Drilldown extension - The Special:RunQuery page of Semantic Forms - The filtered result format in Semantic Result Formats (I'm assuming it still works, though I don't know) - The SolrStore extension (again, I assume it works) - Miga (http://migadv.com) - not a MediaWiki extension, but can be used to provide a faceted search interface for SMW data My guess is that you have some specific interface requirement, like that it should look like Exhibit, but I don't know. -Yaron On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys! Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on their implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. Does anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? Something like that maybe? http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png Cheers! - Yury Katkov, WikiVote -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-user mailing list semediawiki-u...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Status of faceted search for SMW
Hi Yaron! My basic requirement for faceted search is that it must be a faceted search, that is: 1) It must include good full-text search engine. Ideally with morphology support. Super ideally - with some fancy things like search query analysis and adaptive algorithms. 2) It must include filters (facets) that works together with good full-text search engine. it seems that Drilldown, Miga and filtered don't have (1). I'm trying SolrSearch now. - Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi Yury, There are, of course, a number of existing faceted search solutions that don't require any patches: - The Semantic Drilldown extension - The Special:RunQuery page of Semantic Forms - The filtered result format in Semantic Result Formats (I'm assuming it still works, though I don't know) - The SolrStore extension (again, I assume it works) - Miga (http://migadv.com) - not a MediaWiki extension, but can be used to provide a faceted search interface for SMW data My guess is that you have some specific interface requirement, like that it should look like Exhibit, but I don't know. -Yaron On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys! Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on their implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. Does anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? Something like that maybe? http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png Cheers! - Yury Katkov, WikiVote -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-user mailing list semediawiki-u...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Status of faceted search for SMW
You may want to wait until WMF selects a search solution: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Search That way people won't have to set up Solr whatever else is selected, if it's not Solr. (I'm hoping for ElasticSearch, which is also based on Lucene and is currently a little easier to manage, though they're both quite simple these days). The addition of decent search for MW/SMW will be very much welcome, as would interactive faceted search. I would be able to help with front end (Javascript) work on this. I've already written custom facetted search for MW using Solr. But ideally it will work with existing Semantic Result Formats without hacks. David On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 05:26:30PM +0400, Yury Katkov wrote: Hi Yaron! My basic requirement for faceted search is that it must be a faceted search, that is: 1) It must include good full-text search engine. Ideally with morphology support. Super ideally - with some fancy things like search query analysis and adaptive algorithms. 2) It must include filters (facets) that works together with good full-text search engine. it seems that Drilldown, Miga and filtered don't have (1). I'm trying SolrSearch now. - Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi Yury, There are, of course, a number of existing faceted search solutions that don't require any patches: - The Semantic Drilldown extension - The Special:RunQuery page of Semantic Forms - The filtered result format in Semantic Result Formats (I'm assuming it still works, though I don't know) - The SolrStore extension (again, I assume it works) - Miga (http://migadv.com) - not a MediaWiki extension, but can be used to provide a faceted search interface for SMW data My guess is that you have some specific interface requirement, like that it should look like Exhibit, but I don't know. -Yaron On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys! Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on their implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. Does anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? Something like that maybe? http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png Cheers! - Yury Katkov, WikiVote -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-user mailing list semediawiki-u...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Status of faceted search for SMW
On 08/16/2013 09:37 AM, David H. Mason wrote: You may want to wait until WMF selects a search solution: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Search That way people won't have to set up Solr whatever else is selected, if it's not Solr. (I'm hoping for ElasticSearch, which is also based on Lucene and is currently a little easier to manage, though they're both quite simple these days) Just today there was a thread that announced ElasticSearch is what they've settled on and put up on test2: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/71994 -- http://hexmode.com/ Love alone reveals the true shape of the universe. -- Everywhere Present, Stephen Freeman -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Status of faceted search for SMW
hmmm? Is it likely to meet (2) requirement? 2) It must include filters (facets) that works together with good full-text search engine. - Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 5:37 PM, David H. Mason vid_semediawiki-de...@zooid.org wrote: You may want to wait until WMF selects a search solution: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Search That way people won't have to set up Solr whatever else is selected, if it's not Solr. (I'm hoping for ElasticSearch, which is also based on Lucene and is currently a little easier to manage, though they're both quite simple these days). The addition of decent search for MW/SMW will be very much welcome, as would interactive faceted search. I would be able to help with front end (Javascript) work on this. I've already written custom facetted search for MW using Solr. But ideally it will work with existing Semantic Result Formats without hacks. David On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 05:26:30PM +0400, Yury Katkov wrote: Hi Yaron! My basic requirement for faceted search is that it must be a faceted search, that is: 1) It must include good full-text search engine. Ideally with morphology support. Super ideally - with some fancy things like search query analysis and adaptive algorithms. 2) It must include filters (facets) that works together with good full-text search engine. it seems that Drilldown, Miga and filtered don't have (1). I'm trying SolrSearch now. - Yury Katkov, WikiVote On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi Yury, There are, of course, a number of existing faceted search solutions that don't require any patches: - The Semantic Drilldown extension - The Special:RunQuery page of Semantic Forms - The filtered result format in Semantic Result Formats (I'm assuming it still works, though I don't know) - The SolrStore extension (again, I assume it works) - Miga (http://migadv.com) - not a MediaWiki extension, but can be used to provide a faceted search interface for SMW data My guess is that you have some specific interface requirement, like that it should look like Exhibit, but I don't know. -Yaron On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys! Year after year I listen and read about various teams working on their implementations of filtered/faceted search for Semantic MediaWiki. Does anyone has the results that don't require patching the core? Something like that maybe? http://i.imgur.com/pwNmMiq.png Cheers! - Yury Katkov, WikiVote -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-user mailing list semediawiki-u...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
