[Server-devel] Sharing work between XOs/SOAS devices

2009-12-15 Thread Gerald Ardito
Hello all.

As our 5th graders are doing more and more work with their XOs, their being
able to turn in and share their work products (as opposed to collaborating
with others) is becoming more and more important.

My temporary solution is having them upload their work (along with
reflections, if desired) to Moodle, which I can do because we have an XS
implementation. However, this means that if a student has created a Memorize
vocabulary game that s/he want to share s/he has to:
1. Create the game.
2. Save it to the Journal
3. Go to Browse
4. Navigate to Moodle
5. Find the right course/right assignment within the course
6. Upload game.

S/he pretty much has to do the same thing to download and then play other
games. This is certainly workable, but dramatically slows down the momentum
of creating games and wanting others to play them.

So, I am asking to create/offering to help create an Activity that allows
users to share work products easily. I know that Bert was working on
something called Distribute, which may be a starting place. It seems to
share Journal objects, which seems right.

I am happy to work with developers on this. I could create requirements, if
need be. Just say the word.

I look forward to what comes next.

Thanks and best,
Gerald
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Re: [Server-devel] Sharing work between XOs/SOAS devices

2009-12-15 Thread Walter Bender
Sugar 0.86 has sharing built into the Journal. But that doesn't help
you (yet) on your XO machines :(

-walter

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all.

 As our 5th graders are doing more and more work with their XOs, their being
 able to turn in and share their work products (as opposed to collaborating
 with others) is becoming more and more important.

 My temporary solution is having them upload their work (along with
 reflections, if desired) to Moodle, which I can do because we have an XS
 implementation. However, this means that if a student has created a Memorize
 vocabulary game that s/he want to share s/he has to:
 1. Create the game.
 2. Save it to the Journal
 3. Go to Browse
 4. Navigate to Moodle
 5. Find the right course/right assignment within the course
 6. Upload game.

 S/he pretty much has to do the same thing to download and then play other
 games. This is certainly workable, but dramatically slows down the momentum
 of creating games and wanting others to play them.

 So, I am asking to create/offering to help create an Activity that allows
 users to share work products easily. I know that Bert was working on
 something called Distribute, which may be a starting place. It seems to
 share Journal objects, which seems right.

 I am happy to work with developers on this. I could create requirements, if
 need be. Just say the word.

 I look forward to what comes next.

 Thanks and best,
 Gerald




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Re: [Server-devel] [SoaS] Sharing work between XOs/SOAS devices

2009-12-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 15:36, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sugar 0.86 has sharing built into the Journal. But that doesn't help
 you (yet) on your XO machines :(

Paraguay is coming to the rescue :)

http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2009-December/026947.html

Regards,

Tomeu

 -walter

 On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hello all.

 As our 5th graders are doing more and more work with their XOs, their being
 able to turn in and share their work products (as opposed to collaborating
 with others) is becoming more and more important.

 My temporary solution is having them upload their work (along with
 reflections, if desired) to Moodle, which I can do because we have an XS
 implementation. However, this means that if a student has created a Memorize
 vocabulary game that s/he want to share s/he has to:
 1. Create the game.
 2. Save it to the Journal
 3. Go to Browse
 4. Navigate to Moodle
 5. Find the right course/right assignment within the course
 6. Upload game.

 S/he pretty much has to do the same thing to download and then play other
 games. This is certainly workable, but dramatically slows down the momentum
 of creating games and wanting others to play them.

 So, I am asking to create/offering to help create an Activity that allows
 users to share work products easily. I know that Bert was working on
 something called Distribute, which may be a starting place. It seems to
 share Journal objects, which seems right.

 I am happy to work with developers on this. I could create requirements, if
 need be. Just say the word.

 I look forward to what comes next.

 Thanks and best,
 Gerald




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Re: [Server-devel] [IAEP] Sharing work between XOs/SOAS devices

2009-12-15 Thread Gerald Ardito
Aleksey,

I think option 1 is good. It keeps the favorites metaphor from elsewhere
and allows for the sharing of multiple things at the same time.

Thanks.
Gerald

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:30:22PM -0500, Gerald Ardito wrote:
  Hello all.
 
  As our 5th graders are doing more and more work with their XOs, their
 being
  able to turn in and share their work products (as opposed to
 collaborating
  with others) is becoming more and more important.
 
  My temporary solution is having them upload their work (along with
  reflections, if desired) to Moodle, which I can do because we have an XS
  implementation. However, this means that if a student has created a
 Memorize
  vocabulary game that s/he want to share s/he has to:
  1. Create the game.
  2. Save it to the Journal
  3. Go to Browse
  4. Navigate to Moodle
  5. Find the right course/right assignment within the course
  6. Upload game.
 
  S/he pretty much has to do the same thing to download and then play other
  games. This is certainly workable, but dramatically slows down the
 momentum
  of creating games and wanting others to play them.
 
  So, I am asking to create/offering to help create an Activity that allows
  users to share work products easily. I know that Bert was working on
  something called Distribute, which may be a starting place. It seems to
  share Journal objects, which seems right.
 
  I am happy to work with developers on this. I could create requirements,
 if
  need be. Just say the word.
 
  I look forward to what comes next.
 
  Thanks and best,
  Gerald

 What do you think about followed workflows, which is preferable

 1) user, using search controls, minimize list of entries in Journal
   bookmark this entirely list(names it)
   share the whole list(bookmark)
   user can have several bookmarks
   other users see that 1st user shared some bookmarks and can open
   these bookmarks in theirs Journal(it could be separate icon like USB)
   (bookmarks could be useful not only for sharing)

 2) there is no bookmarks
   user can share any object w/o bookmarking(e.g. by clicking star icon or
 so)
   other user see only one list of shared objects

 --
 Aleksey

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Re: [Server-devel] [IAEP] Sharing work between XOs/SOAS devices

2009-12-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 15.12.2009, at 18:30, Gerald Ardito wrote:
 Hello all.
 
 As our 5th graders are doing more and more work with their XOs, their being 
 able to turn in and share their work products (as opposed to collaborating 
 with others) is becoming more and more important.
 
 My temporary solution is having them upload their work (along with 
 reflections, if desired) to Moodle, which I can do because we have an XS 
 implementation. However, this means that if a student has created a Memorize 
 vocabulary game that s/he want to share s/he has to:
 1. Create the game.
 2. Save it to the Journal
 3. Go to Browse
 4. Navigate to Moodle
 5. Find the right course/right assignment within the course
 6. Upload game.
 
 S/he pretty much has to do the same thing to download and then play other 
 games. This is certainly workable, but dramatically slows down the momentum 
 of creating games and wanting others to play them. 
 
 So, I am asking to create/offering to help create an Activity that allows 
 users to share work products easily. I know that Bert was working on 
 something called Distribute, which may be a starting place. It seems to share 
 Journal objects, which seems right.

That is Ben's activity, not mine:

 2009/10/28 Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu:
 Bert Freudenberg wrote:
 The Distribute activity would be your best bet I guess. Where is it?
 
 http://dev.laptop.org/~bemasc/Distribute-1.xo
 
 Distribute is the barest prototype of a sharing activity, designed purely
 as a proof of concept.  It is unmaintained, has essentially no user
 interface, and is not available in any language other than English.  The
 code is a simplified derivative of the hackish HTTP-based sharing system
 from Read.
 
 Any attempts to revive it are welcome.  This is the first time I've ever
 heard of anyone even attempting to use it.
 
 --Ben

We got reports that it does indeed work, though I'm not aware of anyone 
starting to improve it.

- Bert -

 I am happy to work with developers on this. I could create requirements, if 
 need be. Just say the word.
 
 I look forward to what comes next.
 
 Thanks and best,
 Gerald
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