Re: SD> no compression in cyl 3?
Glad to hear you got it working. Were your cam and rocker very worn? One of my GLHS's was clattering a lot. I switched over to a roller cam/followers setup. Nice and quiet after that. When my Sister lost here first rocker, she was quoted something like $800 for a cam and a couple rockers. I brought her car over here. Then for $20.00, I found a perfect cam (hers was really worn) and all the rockers. Spent about 1.5 hours and put all that in. My brother calls me the next day and asked. "What did you do to her car? It never ran that good when I owned it" Bob DohertyCoon Rapids, MN. MNSDAC Vice PresidentSDAC Member '89 Shelby Daytona TII'89 Lebaron Convert TI'87 Shelby Charger'87 Shelby GLHS #784'87 Shelby GLHS #654 '87 Horizon 2.2, 5 speed 45,000 actual miles'68 AMC AMX #5816 - Original Message -From: RAPIDROY@aol.comTo: shelbydodge@imagilist.comSent: Wed, 01 Jan 2014 21:56:50 - (UTC)Subject: Re: SD> no compression in cyl 3? nope its a slider, i put it in and so far so good :) In a message dated 1/1/2014 12:56:29 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, turbo...@juno.com writes: Stamped sounds like a roller rocker. Not compatible if so.Rex Sent from Samsung tablet Original message >From rapid...@aol.com Date: 01/01/2014 12:09 PM (GMT-08:00) To shelbydodge@imagilist.com Subject Re: SD> no compression in cyl 3? Well the rocker bit the dust ( it must have been flying around the valve cover) so I pulled one from my other engine but it is a stamped one and the one in the car is a cast kind, does it matter if its cast or stamped?Roy In a message dated 1/1/2014 12:01:58 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, j...@planetb.net writes: The way I fixed it before was to unbolt all the cam caps and slide it backin place and retorq cam caps. The problem is if you dropped a rocker, itwill happen again. Cam or slider is worn out. -Original Message-From: shelbydodge-bounces+jcc=planetb@imagilist.com[mailto:shelbydodge-bounces+jcc=planetb@imagilist.com] On Behalf OfRAPIDROY@aol.comSent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 2:44 PMTo: shelbydodge@imagilist.comSubject: Re: SD> no compression in cyl 3? i pulled the vcover and yes a slider fell off. im now trying to find a valvecompressor.Roy In a message dated 12/29/2013 9:16:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, amop...@yahoo.com writes: I don't know how you drive your cars, but I've seen rockers (followers) get thrown off the cam. The slider cam/followers that the older TD's came with are prone to wear and get loose. If they get revved too fast, theycan jump off. I've seen this twice in two different Omnis my sister had, my Dad's minivan, a car I bought from a friend and once on my Shelby Charger. The roller rockers (followers) are less prone to get thrown, but I haveseen it happen. Just an idea. Good luck From: "rapid...@aol.com" To: shelbydodge@imagilist.com Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:01 PMSubject: SD> no compression in cyl 3? Hi AllI have lost compression in #3 cyl in the Lancer, anyone know of any clues of what I should look for? Thanks Roy1987 Shelby Lancer #7811986 GLHS #200___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ShelbyDodge mailing list_ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com_ (mailto:ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com) http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ShelbyDodge mailing listShelbyDodge@imagilist.comhttp://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge !DSPAM:52c46ffc54512113396810! -No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3658/6966 - Release Date: 01/01/14 ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ShelbyDodge mailing listShelbyDodge@imagilist.comhttp://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ShelbyDodge mailing listShelbyDodge@imagilist.comhttp://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> VIN to Plaque Car Number 87 GLHS
One of my GLHS's came to Minnesota with a "Shelby" title. It's now a Dodge. MN. doesn't recognize "Shelby" as a manufacturer. So, they go by the VIN. I tried and so did the guy that brought it here. Good luck in your quest, Mike. At least "We" all know what it is. Bob Doherty Coon Rapids, MN. MNSDAC Vice President SDAC Member '89 Shelby Daytona TII '89 Lancer Shelby TII '87 Shelby Charger '87 Shelby GLHS #784 '87 Shelby GLHS #654 '87 Horizon 2.2, 5 speed 45,000 actual miles '68 AMC AMX #5816 (Yes, it's numbered!) - Original Message - From: Mike Fisher To: shelbydodge@imagilist.com Sent: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 21:53:50 - (UTC) Subject: Re: SD> VIN to Plaque Car Number 87 GLHS Here is a funny tidbit too on the titles to my Lancer and Charger. My 1985 Shelby Charger actually says Shelby as the Model on the title. My 1987 Shelby Lancer says Lancer as the model. Both of them say Dodge for the make. I am going to try to get them to change the Lancer one to say Shelby on it when I get tags for it next time. On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Mike Fisher wrote: > I hate to ask, but what info do you guys have on Shelby Lancer #387? Vin > is 1B3BX68EXHN408223. I always wondered where it was originally shipped to > since it made it's way to SE Kansas, where I found it at. > > Thanks! > Mike > > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Bill Yohman wrote: > >> Barry and other people have access to some of the build information for >> the >> numbered cars. >> >> Cheers. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: shelbydodge-bounces+wyohman=airmail@imagilist.com >> [mailto:shelbydodge-bounces+wyohman=airmail@imagilist.com] On Behalf >> Of >> dj_p...@yahoo.com >> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 1:46 PM >> To: Barry Goodall >> Cc: >> Subject: Re: SD> VIN to Plaque Car Number 87 GLHS >> >> Ok I have to know, how did you do that? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:40 AM, "Barry Goodall" >> wrote: >> >> > >> > Plaque # 620. Car was shipped to Sam Dells Dodge in Syracuse, NY on >> > 11/21/86. >> > >> >> >> >> Can anyone from the list tell me the number for the below VIN for an >> >> 1987 GLHS? >> >> >> >> 1B3BZ64E3HD578915 >> >> >> > >> > >> > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ >> > ShelbyDodge mailing list >> > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com >> > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge >> ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ >> ShelbyDodge mailing list >> ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com >> http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge >> >> ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ >> ShelbyDodge mailing list >> ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com >> http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge >> >> > > > -- > Mike Fisher > Network Administrator > Southeast Kansas Education Service Center > http://helpdesk.greenbush.org > (620) 724-6281 > > This message is from the Southeast Kansas Education Service Center. This > message and any attachments may contain information that is confidential > and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the > individual(s) and entity named above as the recipient of the message. If > you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has > been addressed to you in error, please notify the sender immediately. We > ask that you please delete this message, and do not deliver, distribute or > copy the message or any attachments. Thank you. > -- Mike Fisher Network Administrator Southeast Kansas Education Service Center http://helpdesk.greenbush.org (620) 724-6281 This message is from the Southeast Kansas Education Service Center. This message and any attachments may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and entity named above as the recipient of the message. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please notify the sender immediately. We ask that you please delete this message, and do not deliver, distribute or copy the message or any attachments. Thank you. ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> wheel bearings Shelby Lancer
If these are anything like that Daytonas hub assembly, (and I believe it is) they are a 15-20 minute job. Basically the 32mm drive axle nut and 4 -15mm bolts behind the spindle that hold the hub in. You may need a good 15mm 6pt wrench to get at one of them. I found it easier the last time I changed mine. But, yeah, no special tools and a simple easy job. The dealership quoted me 1.6 hours per side. I did two of them in my garage the first time in 35 minutes. This included jacking up the car and pulling the wheels. Bob Doherty Coon Rapids, MN. MNSDAC Vice President SDAC Member '91 Dodge Spirit R/T '89 Shelby Daytona TII '87 Shelby Charger '87 Shelby GLHS #784 '87 Shelby GLHS #654 '87 Horizon 2.2, 5 speed 45,000 actual miles '68 AMC AMX #5816 - Original Message - From: rapid...@aol.com To: shelbydodge@imagilist.com Sent: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 17:25:54 - (UTC) Subject: SD> wheel bearings Shelby Lancer Hi All Well its time to change the front bearings on my Shelby Lancer, anyone out in Shelby land know any tricks or tips. I picked up new bearing and hub combo kits. Autozone will lend me a bearing puller with a slide hammer is this the way to go? Roy Albuquerque, NM 1986 GLHS #200 1987 Shelby Lancer #781 5sp. ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> Heim joints for GLHS
Hi, If you're on the turbododge forum, there's a couple links to doing the job. As for the joints themselves, I found this site to be great. http://racingrodends.com/ They have very inexpensive heim joints. On that page, scroll down to "economy rod ends" Then click and get the "male and female" "Right hand" threads. Then the 3/8" size. I don't know what the shipping is now, but when I bought them, the shipping was like $8.00 whether I got one or a hundred. So I got enough for a few sets. (Last I saw, I thought it said free shipping) The rod ends themselves are like $3.15 each. They're more like $10+ anywhere local if you can find them at all. I'll add a link to the turbododge thread that tells a bit about the linkage. When I made mine, I bought 3/8" steal rod and bent my own and threaded them for the rod ends. (heim joints) A lot of people knock the old plastic joints off their original linkage rods. But if you do that, you spend a lot of time trying to adjust the ! lengths. If you use your originals as patterns and build the new ones from scratch, you can get them the correct size from the start and be finished once they're installed. The rod ends to get are the 3/8" size. You will need 4-female ends and one male. You'll need some cone washers for spacing. I didn't know that when I bought my rod ends. I ended up finding a 3/8' ID stainless tube and just cut up 1/4" long spacers to slip on the bolts that go through the joints. Then go to a hardware store and get some 3/8" shoulder bolts and some nylon locking nuts. (I forgot what you call those) Pull all the brackets off the car. You just have to grind off the old steel ball off the bracket and punch them out. Then either drill out the brocket slightly larger or maybe thread it. I think I just drilled and used the locking nuts and that was good enough. Mine has worked fine for few years now. I need to do a few more sets for the rest of my cars. Email me if you have any questions. It's really simple to do. Just getting started is the hardest part. At least for me. http://www.turbododge.com/forums/f4/f14/355579-heim-joints-a555.html I guess that thread was for something else but may give you an idea of where to go for the rod ends. (See post #2. That was mine) Good luck! Bob Bob Doherty Coon Rapids, MN. MNSDAC Vice President SDAC Member '91 Dodge Spirit R/T '87 Shelby Charger '87 Shelby GLHS #784 '87 Shelby GLHS #654 '89 Shelby Daytona TII '87 Horizon 2.2, 5 speed 45,000 actual miles '68 AMC AMX #5816 - Original Message - From: Mike & Dorothy Walker To: shelbydodge@imagilist.com Sent: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 02:40:58 - (UTC) Subject: SD> Heim joints for GLHS Hello All,I drove my GLHS to work one day last week and when leaving for lunch the owner of the company came wheeling into the parking lot pretty fast. He scared the "shift" out of my GLHS and now one of the rod joints is missing its insert. Does anyone know of a website that shows how to update the joints with Heim joints? I have checked it out on Grainger.com and there seems to be several choices. Thanks!Mike Walker87 Shelby Charger GLHS 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27! Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4e02a7c817c755020dst06duc ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> 92 Spirit LE 2.5 Turbo Auto For Sale/Parts
"same double shaft going in to the engine". This should have said same double shaft going in to the tranny. You'd thing when I re-read the thing I would have caught that. Bob Doherty Coon Rapids, MN. MNSDAC Vice President SDAC Member '91 Dodge Spirit R/T '87 Shelby Charger '87 Shelby GLHS #784 '87 Shelby GLHS #654 '89 LeBaron GTC convertible TII (one of 906 made) '87 Horizon 2.2, 5 speed 45,000 actual miles '94 Sundance 2dr '68 AMC AMX #5816 - Original Message - From: amop...@comcast.net To: NICK YOUNG Cc: shelbydodge@imagilist.com Sent: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 17:46:41 - (UTC) Subject: Re: SD> 92 Spirit LE 2.5 Turbo Auto For Sale/Parts ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> 92 Spirit LE 2.5 Turbo Auto For Sale/Parts
Nick, Before throwing in the towel, there's a couple easy things you could try first. I was told by the late Dave Grove (man that knew his stuff) years ago to try to clear the gov by driving 30 miles an hour and try to shove the car in park. Yes, he said park. He assured me it can't possibly go in, but this will rattle things so much that if there's something stuck in the gov, it will losen it. If anyone else had said that, I would have thought they were crazy, but since it was Dave Grove, I went ahead and tried in. That wasn't my issue. Then there's the tranny that won't upshift at the correct time. The one that waits a while to go in to drive only to drop out of drive when the car drops below about 48-50 mph. This is super common on the 413 tranny. With me, it use to happen after I washed the engine. The kick-down lever and shift lever on the tranny are in the same double shaft going in to the engine. Like the hands on a clock. If they get corroded between each ! other, the kickdown lever gets stuck and thinks you're flooring the car all the time, so it stays in the kick down mode. If this sounds like anything your Spirit is doing, look at the levers on top of the enging and make sure the kick down moves freely. I ruined a couple trannys this way. My tranny problems always started like this. If I had known it was an external problem, I could have loosened it up and saved the tranny. Good luck. Otherwise, the LE doesn't have the same type of grill as the R/T and ES models does it? My grill is broke like nearly every other one in existance. Bob Bob Doherty Coon Rapids, MN. MNSDAC Vice President SDAC Member '91 Dodge Spirit R/T '87 Shelby Charger '87 Shelby GLHS #784 '87 Shelby GLHS #654 '89 LeBaron GTC convertible TII (one of 906 made) '87 Horizon 2.2, 5 speed 45,000 actual miles '94 Sundance 2dr '68 AMC AMX #5816 - Original Message - From: NICK YOUNG To: shelbydodge@imagilist.com Sent: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 16:29:43 - (UTC) Subject: SD> 92 Spirit LE 2.5 Turbo Auto For Sale/Parts I have a 92 Dodge Spirit LE 2.5L Turbo Auto trans For sale or parts. The trans is acting up, was told its the govenor, but have no time or space to work on it. It's been my daily driver for the last year and had no issues till the trans started acting up. I would prefer to sell it whole, but will part it out if I get enough interest. Car is located in Manheim, PA 17545 Thanks, Nick 92 White Iroc R/T 91 White Spirit R/T 92 Red Spirit LE ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> Computer Crossover List
Hey Nick, I found this on TD.com. It looks like there's a few on there. Hope this helps. P4529868 1984 2.2 turbo 1 "note:there are 2 computers listed for 84" P4529869 1985 2.2 turbo 1 P4529871 1986 2.2 turbo 1 and 1987 Shelby Charger P4529873 1987 2.2 turbo 1except Shelby Charger P5249116 1988 2.2 turbo 1 w/manual trans P5249117 1988 2.2 turbo 1 w/automatic P5249118 1988 2.2 turbo II P5249017 1989 2.5 turbo 1 w/automatic trans P5249018 1989 2.5 turbo 1 w/manual trans P5249019 1989 2.2 turbo II P4529998 1990-91 2.5 turbo 1 w/manual trans P452 1990-91 2.5 turbo 1 w/automatic trans P5249052 1984 turbo 1 "note:there are 2 1984 turbo comp listed in book" P5249053 1985-86 turbo (all) P5249054 1986-87 Shelby Glhs stage II(C.A.R.B.E.O. #D-265) P5249055 1987 Shelby CSX,stage II (C.A.R.B.E.O. #D-265) P5249495 2.2 turbo super 60 computer (some wiring mods needed) 4419957 86/87 Shelby GLHS Chrysler part number 4467414 87 Shelby Lancer Automatic Transmission 4467415 87 CSX, Shelby Lancer Chrysler part number 4557597 90 T1 2.5 auto trans Daytona May fit others 5226263 86 2.2 Turbo I auto trans (Daytona) 5226795 85 2.2 Turbo I 5227243 85 Shelby Charger T1 5227337 87 Shelby Charger T1 86 style electronics 5227369 86 2.2 Turbo I manual trans (GLH turbo) 5227535 86 2.2 Turbo I 5227864 87 Turbo I auto trans (LeBaron) 5233077 1987 turbo II Daytona shelby Z later replacement 5233171 1987 turbo II Daytona shelby Z 5233253 86 600/Lebaron K T1 auto trans 5233366 87 Turbo I auto trans 5233540 87 Turbo I 5233542 87 Turbo I man trans (Shadow) 5234655 89 L body auto trans SMEC TBI 5234928 89 L body 5spd SMEC TBI 5235069 89 T2 G&H body SMEC May fit others 53008921 91Dakota 2.5/5spd SBEC TBI CS1017 86/87 Shelby GLHS CS1079 87 CSX, Shelby Lancer P4529868 MP 84 2.2 Turbo 1 old=P4349139 #OC=P4532324 P4529869 MP 85 2.2 Turbo I old=P4349743 #OC=P4532325 P4529870 MP 85 2.2 Turbo I w/MP IC old=P4452119 #OC=P4452118 P4529871 MP 86 2.2 Turbo I old=P4349818 #OC=P4532327 P4529872 MP 86 2.2 Turbo I w/MP IC old=P4452121 #OC=P4452120 P4529873 MP 87 2.2 Turbo I old=P4452743 #OC=P4452981 P4529998 MP 90/91 T1 2.5 auto trans Mopar PN P452 MP 90/91 T1 2.5 5spd Mopar PN P5249017 MP 89 T1 2.5 auto Mopar PN P5249018 MP 89 T1 2.5 5spd Mopar PN P5249019 MP 89 T2 (not S60) Mopar PN P5249116 MP 88 T1 5spd Mopar PN P5249117 MP 88 T1 auto Mopar PN P5249118 MP 88 T2(not S60) Mopar PN P5249670 MP 86/87 Shelby GLHS Stage II old=P5249054 #OC=P4532417 P5249671 MP 87 CSX/Turbo II stage II can be used with 87 TII daytona, old=5249055 Bob Doherty Coon Rapids, MN. MNSDAC Vice President SDAC Member '91 Dodge Spirit R/T '87 Shelby GLHS #784 '87 Shelby GLHS #654 '89 LeBaron GTC convertible TII (one of 906 made) Losing the floor! '87 Horizon 2.2, 5 speed 45,000 actual miles '94 Sundance 2dr '68 AMC AMX #5816 - Original Message - From: NICK YOUNG To: shelbydodge@imagilist.com Sent: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 01:36:30 + (UTC) Subject: SD> Computer Crossover List Does anyone know of a list or crossreferance for stock computers to take the number on white tag to figure out what it fits? Sorting thru a pile of computers. Thanks, Nick _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> I have an 89 daytona shelby TII/555, my tilt steer...
I'd lean toward Lebarons and Daytonas. I had to replace the tilt in my Mom's '89 Shadow. Virtually identical to an 89 Lebaron tilt. But, the Lebaron had a different mount bracket on the side nearest the driver. These are welded on. Plus, there's a rod that comes out of the column that triggers the machanical ignition switch. This was different even thought the switches are identical. You'd have to dismantle the column just to switch the rod. They're mounted differently because of space under the dash. As it turns out, the 89 Shadow is all by itself. Imagine trying to find a red Tilt/cruise 89 Shadow column. They didn't have a lot of tilt wheels on the older Shadows. I found one in the city and had to drive quite a ways for it. At least it was the right color. Even though the columns are very similar, you better look close. You should be able to call a salvage yard to see what's compatible. Good luck, Larry Bob Doherty Coon Rapids, MN. MNSDAC Vice President SDAC Member '91 Spirit R/T '87 Shelby GLHS #784 '87 Shelby GLHS #654 '89 LeBaron GTC convertible TII (one of 906 made) '87 Horizon 2.2, 5 speed 45,000 actual miles '94 Sundance 2dr '68 AMC AMX #5816 - Original Message - From: larry ybarra To: shelbydodge@imagilist.com Sent: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 04:39:10 + (UTC) Subject: SD> I have an 89 daytona shelby TII/555, my tilt steer... I have an 89 daytona shelby TII/555, my tilt steering broke all loose again. This is my second steering column. Can I change it to a non-tilt steering column? If so, which year car and model is compatible with my car? _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> WTB: Charger Interior Panels!
My GLHS panels were also painted with that same paint by a previous owner. (SEM) They look great. I don't know why, but it seems the same color seats (light grey or silver) in an OMNI rip apart faster than "any" other color. Could the darker colors stay more pliable because they stay warmer in the winter? I have found almost every other color seats in salvage yards that were nearly perfect. Even the light blue ones. Even my 45,000 mile 87 Horizon has rips in the silver drivers seat. Good luck with your search Bob Doherty Coon Rapids, MN. MNSDAC Vice President SDAC Member '91 Spirit R/T '87 Shelby GLHS #784 '87 Shelby GLHS #654 '89 LeBaron GTC convertible TII (one of 906 made) '87 Horizon 2.2, 5 speed 45,000 actual miles '94 Sundance 2dr '68 AMC AMX #5816 - Original Message - From: Rich Bryant To: Mike Fisher Cc: shelbydodge@imagilist.com Sent: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:53:11 + (UTC) Subject: Re: SD> WTB: Charger Interior Panels! Your best bet is to find a charcoal set from a regular charger in a junkyard. The darker colors don't fade out so much or chip due to the darker color being more stable to the sunlight for some reason You can then get some SEM paint and paint them the correct color. I repainted my interior panels with it and it turned out very good. I have the color code at home or there is a turbo-mopar.com article on the colors to use. -Rich On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Mike Fisher wrote: > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:49:52 -0600 > From: Mike Fisher > To: james peachey > Cc: shelbydodge@imagilist.com > Subject: Re: SD> WTB: Charger Interior Panels! > > I have a set, but am in Kansas, and when I checked on shipping, it was > like $120 a side to ship since they are oversized. Hope you can find > some closer! > > Mike > > james peachey wrote: >> The interior panels on my shelby charger are cracked and faded.. They >> are so bad that by now, they are beyond repair. Everything else on the >> car is basically getting redone so I figure why not try and find a >> nicer set... >> >> >> >> So I'm looking for a set of good-great condition interior panels for a >> shelby charger. Mainly I'm looking for the 2 main left and right sail >> panels as those are the biggest issues. MINIMAL-NO CRACKS! >> >> >> >> Let me know what you have! >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ >> ShelbyDodge mailing list >> ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com >> http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge >> >> >> > > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > ShelbyDodge mailing list > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> windshield wipers suddenly quit
My 87 GLHS did that last fall. They quit for no reason. Then a few days later they were working again. A couple times afterwards they would give me a few problems, but then seemed to fix themselves. I assumed the electrical connector got moisture in it and froze or just got corroded. I never did look at that, but it may be something for you to look at. Good luck. Bob Bob Doherty Coon Rapids, MN. MNSDAC Vice President SDAC Member '87 Shelby GLHS #784 '87 Shelby GLHS #654 '89 LeBaron GTC convertible TII (one of 906 made) '87 Horizon 2.2, 5 speed 45,000 actual miles '94 Sundance 2dr '68 AMC AMX #5816 - Original Message - From: rbm-she...@comcast.net To: shelbydo...@sdml.org Sent: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:27:37 + (UTC) Subject: SD> windshield wipers suddenly quit I was driving the 1987 GLHS and suddenly my wipers quit, siezed up, and are stuck upright. The actuator arm on the steering column will still pump wiper fluid, but the wipers are just...dead. any thoughts? like if: this is a switch problem? motor problem? electrical vs mechanical? I checked all my fuses and easily located connections. they are all good. Thanks Rob ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> need parts and advice
I have an 87 Charcoal 2.2/5 speed Horizon that I'm going to upgrade the 4 lug to 5. I have an extra set of Centurion II's and already have the Shelby Charger front spindles and rear drums from a Shadow. I thing it should look pretty good. I'm sure if you did what you said, the car would look great. That color will look good as a GLH clone. Good luck Bob Doherty Coon Rapids, MN. MNSDAC Vice President SDAC Member '87 Shelby GLHS #784 '87 Shelby GLHS #654 '89 LeBaron GTC convertible TII (one of 906 made) '87 Horizon 2.2, 5 speed 45,000 actual miles '94 Sundance 2dr '91 Spirit R/T '68 AMC AMX #5816 - Original Message - From: bermudian...@aol.com To: shelbydodge@imagilist.com Sent: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:21:31 + (UTC) Subject: SD> need parts and advice 1. I'm looking for some interior parts for an 83 SC. I need the glove box (my hinge broke, I've tried various repairs without success). I also need the black dash trim piece that surrounds the glove box & radio and extends to the steering column. I understand that these are unique to the 83 SC, later years are different. 2. Recently I was able to purchase an 86 Plymouth Horizon. Truly a grandma's car! had been in the family since new. The car is charcoal with red interior. Exterior and interior are like new. Amazing. 2.2 carb engine with automatic. I love driving the little thing! But was wondering about making a few cosmetic changes to make it a GLH look alike. The trim pieces, 4 lug SC wheels. Anybody have any experience with this. Good idea? Stupid idea? Anyone have the needed pieces? Thanks! Larry Dentler 83 1/2 Shelby Charger, in process 86 Plymouth Horizon, "Opal" 89 Shelby Dakota #708 - maybe be trading in under the "cash for clunkers" program. I love driving the truck but it needs tons of work and parts that are out of my price range and $4500 is hard to pass up! **An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823322x1201398723/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> Window outside water guards
Hi, There has been a set on ebay quite a few times recently. They may want too much for them because they never seem to sell. But, check that out. I've found them in salvage yards quite a few times in nice shape. Usually they're hard, brittle and cracked, but every once in a while you find a set from a car that must have been garaged and kept out of the sun. But, sorry, I need to keep the ones I have. Good luck in your search. Bob D Bob Doherty Coon Rapids, MN. MNSDAC Vice President SDAC Member '87 Shelby GLHS #784 '87 Shelby GLHS #654 '89 LeBaron GTC convertible TII (one of 906 made) '87 Horizon 2.2, 5 speed 45,000 actual miles '94 Sundance 2dr '68 AMC AMX #5816 - Original Message - From: ros...@juno.com To: shelbydodge@imagilist.com Sent: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:39:34 + (UTC) Subject: SD> Window outside water guards Hi all, I'm slowly working on restoring my 85 GLH. As you know, some parts are getting harder to find. One item I'm looking for, with no success, is the part that keeps out water on the outside of the windows. All four passenger windows have them. Mine have gotten so brittle that they are cracking and need replacing. They are made of metal on the bottom part and have 4 or 5 'clips' that secure them to the inside of the door. The upper part is made of rubber and rubs against the outside of the window like a squeegee when you roll them up and down and keeps water out of the door frame. The local dodge dealer says they are no longer made by dodge. Does anyone know of an aftermarket source for these items? Or how to refurbish them? Thanks for any help you can give, Ross Palmer Las Cruces NM Get your dream car or truck. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLa8tSvjSpsoEuMTevefUTRWmxIwPCnMxuKu4vRZC2oRi42ztE1aQ/ ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> FS> Interested? CSX-T For Sale (maybe)
I've seen this car a couple times in person and it's absolutely beautiful. I hate to see Steve sell it, but as long as he keeps the other Shelby's and it goes to an inthusiast, I guess that would be a good thing. Bob Doherty Coon Rapids, MN. MNSDAC Vice President SDAC Member '87 Shelby GLHS #784 '87 Shelby GLHS #654 '89 LeBaron GTC convertible TII (one of 906 made) '87 Horizon 2.2, 5 speed 45,000 actual miles '94 Sundance 2dr '68 AMC AMX #5816 - Original Message - From: twoshelbys...@aol.com To: shelbydodge@imagilist.com Sent: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:30:31 + (UTC) Subject: SD> FS> Interested? CSX-T For Sale (maybe) Depending on the interest in my CSX-T #475, I think I'm ready to sell and make room for my other projects. (which are too many and too time consuming) _http://www.440magnum.com/mopars/1999/october/1988shelbyCSXT.shtml_ (http://www.440magnum.com/mopars/1999/october/1988shelbyCSXT.shtml) _http://www.joink.com/homes/users/cooke/shelbyregistry/stevek.html_ (http://www.joink.com/homes/users/cooke/shelbyregistry/stevek.html) I don't want to list it on EBAY because it's not your average car for the average Ebayer. Shelby Enthusiasts ? HEADS UP ! Here's the Basics. Anything beyond that, you'll just have to call me. ~ 49k miles. ~ All Original from Floor Mats to Center Caps. ~ New Gaterbacks. ~ Multiple First Place Winner at SDAC, Chrysler Classic, Mopars on the Mississippi, Belvedere Mopar Happening. Pictured in Mopar Muscle for the 99 Mopar Nationals. ~ Clean ? Hell Ya. ~ Perfect ? Damn Near. ~ Wrecked, Rusted or Modified? Absolutely NOT Don't even think about offering less than $5000 or trading anything. Private Emails only PLEASE. Put > "CSXT#475 Offer" in subject line. Private Auction if Needed. Highest offers shared with all private respondents. One Week ONLY > 3-8-09 now to 3-15-09 10pm central time. Steve and Dee Kalmes Springville, Iowa 89 CSX-VNT #339 89 CSX-VNT #467 88 CSX-T #475 87 CSX #311 ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> more power
If this is a turbo car, the best bang for the buck would be a mandrel bent exhaust system. I've never used one myself, but everyone one that installs one brags about the gains in performance. ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> HELP! Turbo Hood for 87/88 Shadow/Sundance
At least the older ones were flat. In the 90's it seems they put the bulge hood on everything. I have a 94 that doesn't have any options. But does have the bulge hood and all ground FX. No rear speakers, no tach 2 speed wipers and even no rear defrost. Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. Vice Pres of MNSDAC 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII (1 of 906 built) 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 87 Horizon 2.2 5 speed 45,000 act 68 AMC AMX #5816 (12 miles since '91) http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: Wayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Correct. The Turbo bulge hood was a Shadow item only. My 1988 Sundance > turbo has a flat hood, as does a 1990 Sundance a friend has. > > On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Russ W. Knize wrote: > > > I think that only a turbo Shadow hood will have the "turbo bulge". The > > Turbo Sundances got the flat hood, at least in 87. > > > > Sean Boire wrote: > >> Does anybody have a hood for sale for an 87/88 Shadow or Sundance?? I > >> have > >> one, but it is full of bondo, and really don't want to use it on my CSX! > >> Hopefully I can find one in Ontario somewhere!!! > >> > >> > >> Sean > >> > >> > >> > >> ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > >> ShelbyDodge mailing list > >> ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > >> http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge > >> > > > > > > Thanks, > > Russ > > > > > > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > > ShelbyDodge mailing list > > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge > > > > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > ShelbyDodge mailing list > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> rough starting
If this happens a few minutes after shutting it off, I'd guess a headgasket or leaky injector. If this happens after the car has been off for a while, I'd guess the injector. If it were the regulator, the car would usually take some time to start while it built up pressure again. One thing you can check right after the car has been shut off is this. Pull the vacuum hose off the regulator and see if there is fuel in it. If so, it's bad. Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. Vice Pres of MNSDAC 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII (1 of 906 built) 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 87 Horizon 2.2 5 speed 45,000 act 68 AMC AMX #5816 (12 miles since '91) http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi All > My 87 Shelby lancer has this problem when starting it fires right up but > idles rough till I rev the gas petal or start to drive off and give it gas. > The > engine is a stock MOPAR replacement I installed 30,000 miles ago with an MP > computer (the Shelby computer had a problem with the charging circuit) It has > had this problem for a long time and I just lived with it. > Any ideas? > > > Roy > 86 GLHS #200 > 87 Shelby Lancer #781 5sp cloth > 81 Fiat X1/9 > 85 Honda Interceptor 500 > Will I ever get out of the 80's? > > If you think nobody cares, try missing a couple of payments. > > > > **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520) > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > ShelbyDodge mailing list > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> reverse lockout
Hi, If this is the same part that broke on my 89 Shelby Daytona about a 12-14 years ago, yes, I did a fix that was indistructible. My cable broke or was stripped at the top part where it gets "pinched" in the shifter" Sorry if I don't know what I'm talking about but this was years ago and I don't remember for sure what these shifters look like. The top of the cable has teeth on the flat part that lock in the shifter. We, for a good 6 months to a year, used a pair of needle nose pliers to pull up the cable for reverse. After the teeth stripped. Needless to say, we tried not to have to use reverse. The nylon kept breaking off little pieces over time. What I did was to grind off the flat part of the cable up to the cylinder shaped part. Then I drilled a really small hole down the middle of the cable. (maybe 1/32") I slipped the cable in and ran a sheet metal screw down through the top of the shifter in to the cable. The screw was snug and there wasn't a chance of it "EVER" coming out. The pinching teeth in the shifter itself would have to break for this to fail. It never did fail. I hope this helps. I was a super fast fix, once I figured out what needed to be done. Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. Vice Pres of MNSDAC 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII (1 of 906 built) 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 87 Horizon 2.2 5 speed 45,000 act 68 AMC AMX #5816 (12 miles since '91) http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: Dennis & Sherry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > A friend has a Shelby Lancer and it appears the nylon rod that you pull > up to allow shifting into reverse has broken. > Does anyone know how to repair the rod? > Is the part still available new? From Who? > Has anyone made a replacement part with metal or cable or > Does anyone have a good one they can part with? > Dennis in Delhi, CA > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > ShelbyDodge mailing list > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
SD> Low boost in GLHS
Hi All, I have a low boost problem with my 87 GLHS. The car was fine a few weeks ago. I did a Heim joint conversion to the shifting linkage and the car has been slower since. I can't see any bad hoses and all are connected. I'm boosting at about 5 lbs. The car is stock. If I pull the wastegate hose off the solenoid, it boosts fine. Hook it back up and it's back down to 5 lbs. The solenoid is fine. What should I look for? I can't believe I disturbed anything under the hood during the HJ conversion. Any ideas? Thanks in advance -- Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. Vice Pres of MNSDAC 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII (1 of 906 built) 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 87 Horizon 2.2 5 speed 45,000 act 68 AMC AMX #5816 (12 miles since '91) http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI http://geocities.com/amoparx/ ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> 5 Speed Tramsmission Fluid
I'd use straight 5W-30. Don't use synthetic! -- Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. vice pres MNSDAC 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 87 Horizon 2.2 5 speed carb. 45,000 actual 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> Separate xmission and engine
Could it be the 10MM bolt for the inspection cover on the very bottom? I know that one is obvious, but I pulled a tranny at a salvage yard one time and forgot that bolt. It took about 50 minutes on a very cold (12 degree high) windy day to do it and I had to go back a few days later to finish the job since it's hard getting at that bolt with the engine and tranny sitting on the ground. Getting at that bolt that way was an additional 1/2 hour to 45 minutes, instead of the 20 seconds if I would have pulled it prier to dropping everything down. LOL Good luck Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 87 Plymouth Horizon 2.2 5 speed. 45,000 actual miles 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: Dr Mac Barksdale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Help please; Removing a Turbo II fro a Shelby Daytona.. and I am unable to > separate the tranny from the engine. > > Any hints on what could be holding them together ? Can separate about 3/4 > inch > and no further. > > Removing engine and tranny together now. Bt must get them separated. > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have. > > Regards, > > Mac > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > ShelbyDodge mailing list > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> cooling issues
Hi Mat, Does it do this everytime you drive? I know you said you checked the fan, but could the relay be bad and maybe not "Always" turning on? I had a similar issue with one of my GLHS's. One time while the car was running hot, I opened the hood and tapped on the relay. The fan turned on and started cooling down. Another idea, does your car have an external coolant bypass control? Or does it have to run through the heater core all the time? My Sundance had to run through the core at all times. The core plugged up and the car started running real hot. This was in a matter of a day or two. I flushed the core and all was fine. But now, if there's a heater controler under the hood, this wouldn't be an issue with a bad core. Then there's the answer I'm sure you don't want to hear. Are you loosing coolant or does the radiator smell like exhaust? I've had a super bad head gasket leak that would load up a cylinder and start really hard after being shut off for only 5 minutes. "Bar's Leaks" bought me a couple more months without a problem. That stuff will plug even the worst head gasket leak. And other stuff I'm sure. LOL Not the right way to fix it, but it may buy you some time. Good Luck Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. V-President of MNSDAC 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > hi all > > i have a bit of a problem with my 87 turbo lebaron. specifically cooling > issues. after a drive on the freeway approx 60 65 MPH i end up with coolant > boiling up and bubbling out into my overflow tank. this car has a new > radiator, > new > thermostat, new water pump all approx 2 years old. fan does turn on, i > already > checked. temp runs slightly over 1/2 after an average 14 mile run to work. > > there is no water mixing with oil, no white smoke cloud behind it. the car > does have worn piston rings and some blow by since it has over 150K on it. i > catch the blow by in a makeshift catch can. it didnt seem to run this hot > last > year when the fuel pump died. i finally got around to changing it out last > weekend. > > any ideas?? possibly having the blow by is causing it to get too hot maybe? i > know its probably time for a rebuild. i will likely go looking for a turbo > 2.2 short block i can freshen up and swap out. i just wasnt wanting to do it > as > of yet. financial constraints. the engines head and turbo are all redone and > work fine. > > any ideas what it could be? > possible quicky solutions to keep it running awhile longer? > > thanks > mat > > > ** > Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > > > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > ShelbyDodge mailing list > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> Mopar o2 sensor
Hi Again, Here's a link for the NTK one wire from Summit for the 85 GLH. http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=700+401124+4294908110+4294853893+4294907873+115+4294925023 Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. MNSDAC V-Pres 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> Mopar o2 sensor
That would be the one you need.I once bought a $20.00 one wire Bosch from Autozone. I don't recomend it because it was a gamble, but, my mileage went from about 18 to 28 on the road. This was for an 86 Shelby Charger. I also bought a 4 wire Bosch for the 90 Daytona and it was worthless. 2 years later, I replaced it with a Mopar O2 and the car was finally fine. The Bosch's are known to be junk in our turbo cars. So are most others. You can get an NGK (NTK) from summitracing and pay a lot less. These are the same as the Mopar O2's. They make the Mopar sensor so they are an exact plug and play. I just ordered a few 3 and 4 wire O2's. They were $38-39 each. I don't know if they have the one wire, but if they do, I'm sure they'll be a bit cheaper than that. These were recomended to me by a Mopar guy that is one of the most respected and knowlegable guys out there. Summit has free shipping but will charge about $10.00 handling. That's why I ordered a few for all my cars. The hat they sent with the order was probably worth that! LOL. Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. MNSDAC Vice-Pres 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi, > Thank you for the response to my code 52 question. I think that I had some > ground issues but the problem is still not resolved. I just got back from the > Dodge dealer where they quoted me $87.50 for a one wire o2 sensor, part# > 5234921. Is this the right part for my '85 GLH? Is that the right price? I > thought that would throw a new o2 sensor at it but for $87.50 I'm thinking > twice > about it. Can the old sensor be tested? > Thanks, > Mike McKeown > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > ShelbyDodge mailing list > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> Shelby Dode strut Bars. For our list...
Not to be used as a pickup truck? How do you think I sheetrocked my garage. (86 Shelby Charger) Brought my old stove/oven to the recycling place. (90 Shelby Daytona) Stored my go-cart all summer. (94 Sundance) Hauled my new GTC top home. (87 GLHS #784) I am trying to keep from using the GLHS's as trucks though. But you know about teaching an old dog, new tricks. I need a Shelby Dakota. LOL Those bars are nice. I've had my eye's on them since Mike started selling them on abay. But with everything else the cars need, I'm going to have to wait. Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm (MNSDAC) Coon Rapids, MN.(Minnesota's Shelby Dodge club site) 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ From: "Paul T. Standaert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> The design required minimal or no modification of > anything and kept the rear seat folding feature fully > functional. The bar was also pretty easily removable > as well. Removability shouldn't be a big concern > anymore since nobody hauls stuff around in these cars > anymore (almost a classic car not to be used as a > pickup truck). -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> fuel pump install...
Hi Roy, In the worst case scenario, you'll run out of gas earlier. But, You pretty much already said the best solution when you bragged about how easy it was. LOL Spend the hour or so and do the job again. It has to go even easier the second time around. You already know how to twist and bend to get the pump out. Have fun! Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi All > OK that was the simplest pump install I ever had (87 shelby lancer)!!! but I > misplaced the Dodge sock for the end of the pump and installed it with the > supplied Ford one, I hope that will not be a problem. It all went back > nicely. > And after it was all done I found the dodge sock. > do you think it will cause a problem? > > > Thanks > Roy > 86 GLHS #200 > 87 Shelby Lancer #781 5sp cloth > 81 Fiat X/19 > 85 Honda VF500F Interceptor > Albuquerque, New Mexico > > > > **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > ShelbyDodge mailing list > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> Rear disk brakes and head question.
Don't quote me on this, but I believe I heard you can use the cross drilled head on a non cross drilled block as long as you use the 005 MP head gasket. (p4452005 rather than the 2006 that the cross drilled heads would normally use) Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: robert long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Has anyone ever put the rear disk brakes from a '89 shelby daytona on a > rampage > rear axle? What's all involved. I have access to a setup but want to know if > it > is possible and worth the trouble. Thanks in advance. > > ... Also out of curiosity can you put a cross drilled head on a early block > with > no ill effect? '89 shelby t2 daytona head on a '87 glhs block for example? > > > > > > - > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > ShelbyDodge mailing list > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> Look who AOL's stealing from now...
Now that was a stupid list. They have nothing to do so they throw together a quicky list. I agree with 3 cars on there. But, where was the Avalanche and others that make you want to slap the person for even thinking about buying one? That Rampage is awesome. There's enough cars out there that make people laugh when they see them. Some of the cars on the list weren't the best looking vehicles, but far far far from ugly. There's a huge difference. There's a lot of plain cars in the world. Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: "David Salamone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I just received word from one of my customers about this AOL article that > featured a stolen photo taken from my company website. Check it out at: ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> Slow turnsignals with headlights on
Weak battery. Check to make sure all the connections are good and your alt belt is tight. Does it speed up at higher speeds or RPM's? Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: Jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > What would cause the turn-signal to operate slowly while the > headlights are on but act normally when the headlights are off? > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > ShelbyDodge mailing list > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> need help with omni
Changing to TBI would be more reliable, but I think the milage would suffer a bit. I don't know for sure, but I had fantastic mileage with a carbed 2.2 (and turbo's) and can't seem to get close to that with a 2.5 tbi. This also may be the year of cars. Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: Rich Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > IMO The best mod for the car is to pull all of the carb stuff off and swap > it to TBI fuel injection. I did this on my 87 Turismo and it was a much > much more reliable car. It no longer stalled when cold and it ran much > more smoothly. It wasn't however a big power boost. It was a lot of > work though... > > Without swapping the actual engine out that is about the best option in > addition to the other mods suggested. Overall The car is going to be > stuck at 100hp without a cam, or turbo or some headwork. > > The turbo is a good option but I am a pretty firm believer that kids > should have slow cars to drive. :) > > -Rich -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> Transmission oil
I agree with Rich. Don't use synthetic. It's too slippery and will damage syncro gears. They need the slight bit of friction to get turning and that doesn't happen well with synthetic. You end up grinding gears. Besides, Cliff R says not to and that's good enough for me. Also, you'll save money! LOL. Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: "Bill Schulze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > What weight Mobil 1 should I use in my 87 CSX? > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > ShelbyDodge mailing list > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> Auto vs. Stick
Non turbo? Should be the same providing the years are the same or close. What are you replacing and what year is the new one? Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ > I found a really nice 70K mile 2.5 engine in an Acclaim to replace > the blown one in my car; but it's got an automatic behind it. Does it > make a difference? With the old V8's we had to have a "pilot hole" > in the crankshaft, or it was no go. What are the issues with FWD > cars? Thanks. > > > David Chester > Las Vegas, NM > 92 Spirit R/T > 71 W100 > 77 New Yorker 440 > 68 D100 383 > 68 Dart 340 4-speed > 80 Dodge Aspen Dirt Track 340 > 00 Dakota 4.7 5-speed > 89 Caravan 2.5 5-speed > Many Parts > > > > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > ShelbyDodge mailing list > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> shifter
Hi Larry, I don't remember for sure what gears I had problems with, but in the end, it was most of them. I have an 89 TII GTC. There's a nut on one of the cable brackets that came loose on me. (on the back of the tranny) All I remember is, it screwed from the back-forward. Once this was tight, it shifted fine. This is also a 555 tranny. I believe I had to go from up above to get at it. .(Removing all the hoses and cleaner) This was about 6 years ago, so I don't remember for sure. All I know is once I found the loose nut, I was mad about not seeing it earlier. At the same time, I found a loose intercooler hose and found the turbo I thought was going bad was good all along. Then there was the cooling fan that was froze up. The head gasket was good all along. LOL. In less than 1 1/2 hours, I fixed 3 (what I thought were) "Major" problems. To think this car sat for about 2 years because I thought there was lots of time consuming repairs ahead. (I wonder if I let the GLH! S sit t he last 3 months for nothing. H) Good luck Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: larry ybarra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I have a 89 daytona shelby 2.2/555. My son is having trouble shifting into > 1st > and 2nd gears. We push the clutch pedal in and the shifter feels like it goes > in. But when I let the clutch out It starts to grind and it does not engage. > This happens in 1st and 2nd gears only. All other gears are fine. Could this > be that the shifter cable need to be adusted? Or is it the transmission? > > Thanks Larry > _ > You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the im > Initiative > now. > http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGLM > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > ShelbyDodge mailing list > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge --___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> help with carb problems
This may be a long shot, but when I had an 83 Charger about 150 years ago, I had a tendency to overfill the gas. This would get fuel in the charcal cannister. That would somehow (and I don't remember how) get charcal pieces in the carb and screw it up. I even got a new cannister way back then and had a mechanic at the dealership ask if I knew why the cannister went bad. I said, "Yeah, from overfilling the tank". (topping it off) He said "exactly"! In your rebuilds, did you ever notice any little chunks of charcal? Have you ever overfilled the tank? A long shot, but I thought I'd tell you about my experience. Good Luck. Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Help! I'm still having trouble with my carb on my 83 1/2 carbed SC. Have > spent tons getting it rebuilt and readjusted. Ran fairly decent over summer > but > now as cold weather hits, it wants to stick on fast idle all the time. I've > tried all the usual fixes. I know these carbs were bad, even when new, and I > don't have a ton of money to buy a lot of new stuff ... so any body have any > help for this old guy who just loves my SC but gets weary of these carb > problems! > > Thanks! Larry Dentler <>< > 83 1/2 Shelby Charger > 89 Shelby Dakota > > > ** > See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > ShelbyDodge mailing list > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> Trubo Van ?'s
I believe I read that the 413 auto is better than the turbo car 413. I believe it may have been in the torque convertor? It may have a higher stall speed. Don't quoat me on that. I just remember reading there was something that was good about it. If it's a stick and it's newer, it would be a 568. I don't know about the older ones with sticks. I don't think they ever used a 555 in one. If anything, it would be a 520. Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: "Johnson James J MSgt 726 ACS/SCS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So I saw a 2.5 turbo van in the salvage yard. Is anything on it worth my > time to take?? What are the internals like on a 2.5 turbo. Tranny? > James > > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > ShelbyDodge mailing list > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> Headlight Popup Relay Location
If I remember correctly, the module for the headlights is located under the speaker looking cover in the middle of the dash. This would be where the speaker would be if the car was older and only had an AM radio. I don't think it's too difficult to remove. Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: "Greg LaHaise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have an 89 Daytona w/t-tops and I am having a problem with the > headlights not going up or down. I know there is a relay somewhere, > but I can't seem to find it anywhere in the Service manuals. > > Anyone know where it is and how hard is it to replace? > > Any help is appreciated > Greg > > Check it out here: > http://www.cardomain.com/ride/801038 > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > ShelbyDodge mailing list > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> Convertables
From: Richard Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Actually, the original Chrysler convertibles, the Dodge 600s and > LeBarons were hardtop cars with the tops cut off. The Dodge Shadows > were also not factory Convertibles, they had the tops cut off in > mexico. It just depends on the engineering work for the modifications. > > > Richard Paul I kind of thought the older LeBaron converts were like that. I've seen a few in salvage yards that were bent in the middle. The newer Lebarons always look fine. Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> Convertibles and Windshields
Yes, the Daytonas with t-tops were just sawsalled by "Cars and Concepts" (or something like that) I've read things on other Shelby lists/forums by people that worked for that company and the told what they did to create the T-top cars. Rivets and no welding to an original hard top car. The hardtop Daytonas are a night and day different car to drive. Quieter too! A lot quieter. But a Lebarob convertible is a much stiffer car than a t-top Daytona. The underside of it was designed to be a convertible and is different than a hardtop LeBaron. I've never compaired them at a salvage yard but have been told that the underside is different. Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > My only experiences with Mopar convertibles are P, J, and old school > E. I have never seen a windshield crack in a FWD car. The P has a LOT of > extra support between the front and rear wheels. It also has permanent > fixed support "triangle" windows on the sides. I had to add support on the > E. I have seen those crack at about 600HP at a drag strip without the > subframe connectors. ; ) My experiences with the J convertible are > through friends. I owned an '87 J new in '87 but never a J 'vert. I have > several friends with them, some of which were also purchased new. No > problems to date. I would suspect that if a G body had the same kind of > under body support for a convertible top, there wouldn't be any problems > with those either. I'm willing to bet Chrysler just used a sawsall and > made a few T-Top cars without consideration to body / frame stiffening. If > that is the case, I could see why windshields would crack in T-Top cars. > Especially if you bump up the HP and launch it hard. I would be curious to > know if anybody has a regular hard top and a T-Top G body. Look under it > and see if there are any frame differences. > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > ShelbyDodge mailing list > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> Power Question (Electrical I think)
Mike, I thought the same thing about the belt slipping for a split second. My Shelby Chargers have all done this a different times. Even with new alternators. It's consistant with hitting the gas too. That's why I figured it was slipping. I've had a belt that felt tight and yet still slip enough to drain the battery without squeeling. Actually, this happened once, but it did happen. I've never had this problem with any other turbo Dodge. I don't know if the old style alternator requires a little more oomph to get it turning when it's trying to charge. This headlight dimming only happens when I hit the gas. I don't think the fan coming on would do it at such times consistantly. Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: Mike Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On my 85 Shelby Charger, I have a weird problem, but it may be common > too. I only notice it at night with the headlights on, but when I > accelerate, and the turbo starts to spool, the headlights dim for about > a second (on brights or dims). The other day I got to watching the volt > meter when this happens, and it does drop and come right back up. I > thought maybe it was the tension of the belt on the alternator, but it > seems to be tight, and it was an almost brand new belt. Anyone have any > ideas, or is this just typical of these cars? I don't drive it at night > much, so I just have never really noticed it. > > Thanks! > > Mike > ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ > ShelbyDodge mailing list > ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com > http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> Chrysler Lazer convertible pics
The Lebaron converts are very well made in my opinion. Since the car was designed from scratch to be a convertible, it was a very solid car. I've got a rusty floor on my 89 TII GTC and am very impressed with the way the thing still handles. In fact, a friend of mine drove the car home when I bought it 8 years ago and has always loved the car. He's driven all my Shelby Dodges and that's the only one he was ever really impressed with. He owns 2-1977 Ferrari 308 GTS's and a 380 SL Mercedes convertible and has rather high standards. Even with the higher miles on my Lebaron, he still likes it. He drove it home for me when I picked up my latest 87 GLHS a couple months ago. Now I had an 89 Daytona Shelby TII with T-tops for almost 16 years. I bought the car at 3 years old with 64,000 miles on it. This car was always a loose car. When they converted those Daytonas to t-tops, they really lost a lot of strength. I never broke a windshield though. LOL Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: Rich Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > What did they do to stiffen it up? > > People have problem siwth cracking windsheilds on t-top cars this must be > much much worse! > > -Rich > > On Mon, 29 Oct 2007, Dave Robinson wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:18:07 + > > From: Dave Robinson > > To: shelbydodge@imagilist.com > > Subject: SD> Chrysler Lazer convertible pics___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> ShelbyDodge Digest, still on the list
Hey Matt, Did you see what that CD player ended up going for on eBay? It got up over a hundred dollars. I assume you didn't buy it. I'm going to keep a closer eye out for those things in the salvage yards. As it is, I've only seen one. Take care and glad to see you on SDML. And everyone else. Keep asking questions people. The list will come back to life. I was having flash-backs seeing all the SD mail the last few days. LOL Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. Vice President of MNSDAC 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi Y'all > > i am still here too. been lurking for the past year or so since i was going > thru a very nasty divorce. still got the house, and all my SD stuff. she had > no > clue as to what i had invested in just the engine and tranny overhaul alone > for my currently ongoing 88 shelby z t top car restoration. of course there > were "no reciepts" to verify how much i had in it all LOL. > > hope none of you are too pissed at me. i felt the need for a divorce gift to > me since the last new car i actually bought for myself was over 14 years ago > i > went and bought (brand X) a brand spankin new vista blue mustang GT. the > Daytona is still in the garage next to it and as soon is i am financially > able, > and mentally willing i will start working on the Daytona again. i bought the > dodge back in 1999 out of a salvage yard. the last time it was registered > according to the window sticker was 1998. so i guess i better get moving on > it. > > glad to see the list is in capable hands. i am here for the long haul > everybody. > > Matt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > 1988 Dodge daytona Shelby T top T turbo ll 5 Speed (under construction) > 1987 Chrysler lebaron coupe Turbo l auto (work car) > 1994 Chevrolet Silverado 350 5 Speed (my parts chaser) LOL > 2007 Ford Mustang GT 281 5 Speed (divorce gift to me) -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD> still here too
I came aboard this list back in early 99 I believe. At least that's where the first postings of mine are from on my SDML archives disk. (Great source if you can still get one. I researched my cars on it to find out what former owners had done to the cars) I started off here with 2 turbo cars. My 89 TII Daytona Shelby and my 86 Charger Shelby. Both cars I had since they were 3 years old. I sold both last summer to free up space for a second 87 GLHS. Hard to see them go after all the years, but now I have solid cars again. I've always loved this mailing list. Your questions go past everyone rather than get lost in the wrong catagory on a forum. It's great to see everyone chiming in. Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. Vice President of MNSDAC (According to Jim, the President) LOL 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ >Yep, it works! I have been here for about 7 - 8 years now, Still slaving away >at >multiple Shelby Dodge projects! > Yep, it works! I have been here for about 7 - 8 years now, Still slaving away > at > multiple Shelby Dodge projects! > > Sean B -- ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
SD> This must be why there's been no mail?
Hi All, I hope this new address works. So is everyone still out there? I know most of us still lurk on this list. I'd be curious to see people pop back on and reintroduce themselves. That way, you can test the new address. LOL I'm Bob, I've been here for about 8 1/2 years now. -- Bob Doherty http://amoparx.net/mnsdacpic/mnsdac.htm Coon Rapids, MN. V. President of MNSDAC (according to the President) 89 LeBaron GTC Convert TII 87 Shelby GLHS #784 87 Shelby GLHS #654 http://amoparx.net/glhs654/glhs654.htm 68 AMC AMX #5816 http://northstaramc.com/northstaramc.html 94 Plymouth Sundance 2.5 TBI (My Wifes car that I drive) http://geocities.com/amoparx/ ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
