Re: [sidr] New Version Notification for draft-ymbk-sidr-transfer-00.txt

2015-07-17 Thread Stephen Kent

Andy,



...
Steve,

Given what I said initially in this thread, I thought we were talking 
about the same thing. I guess not. We could tease this apart, but is 
it worth it if “Randy’s view” covers all situations?


-andy
Randy's approach covers both cases, at the cost of some added complexity 
for what I suspect
is the most common case. Whether that's preferable to two similar, but 
slightly different
mechanisms, where one is optimized for the (purported) most common case 
is a matter of
engineering taste. The WG will have to decide at some point, when we 
have complete, detailed

proposals for both.

Steve

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Re: [sidr] draft-sriram-idr-route-leak-detection-mitigation: difference between a peer and a customer

2015-07-17 Thread Sriram, Kotikalapudi
Your explanations make it very clear, thanks.

Thanks, Andrei. 
Looks like we've converged on pretty much all issues that we've discussed so 
far in this thread.
One comment inline below.

[...]
 If my considerations are correct, there are only two cases -
 upstreams/transit providers, for which RLP doesn't matter, and others
 (customers and peers) where an RLP indicates a leak and has to be dealt
 accordingly.

 Yes, I agree that detecting route leaks from customers/peers matters.
 Detecting route leaks from upstreams/transit providers does not really matter
 (as explained above).

I guess what I am arguing for is that the semantics of RLP 01 should be
propagate only down rather than do not propagate up and any updates
with the RLP field set from a peer or a customer should be treated as a
leak.

OK, I see now what you meant. Your suggestion is good. 
In the draft, currently in Section 3.2.2 do not propagate up 
is interpreted (implicitly) as propagate only down for a peer.  
But with this change (as suggested above by you) , we no longer have to 
make that distinction. The semantics of RLP 01 would be the same 
whether an update is received from a customer or a peer. 
Then route leak detection algorithm would be the same for customer or peer,
and sections 3.2.1 and 3.2.2 can be merged into one. Thanks.

Sriram   

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