Re: [silk] Bangalore Meetup on May 16?

2009-05-08 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Amit Varma amitbl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Silklister Amit Varma is touring [1] in support of his new book, and
 will be in Bangalore to do an event in Crossword on May 16, which
 conveniently happens to be a Saturday evening. Anyone up for a drink
 with Amit, myself, and whoever else turns up on that evening,
 somewhere in the vicinity?


 Thanks Udhay! I'm looking forward to meeting Silklisters, it's my first trip
 to Bangalore after joining Silk.

Couple of quick notes:

* Just to confirm, since there are multiple Crossword stores in
Bangalore: this event is at the one on Residency Road, according to
the obligatory facebook event page [1].

* May 16th is the day that the official Election vote tally takes
place, so it may (not sure yet) be a dry day. In which case we need
some alternate suggestion for where to congregate after the event at
Crossword. Ideas, anyone?

Udhay

[1] http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=78894968725ref=ts
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Re: [silk] Bangalore Meetup on May 16?

2009-05-08 Thread Venky TV
Count me in too.

 * May 16th is the day that the official Election vote tally takes
 place, so it may (not sure yet) be a dry day. In which case we need
 some alternate suggestion for where to congregate after the event at
 Crossword. Ideas, anyone?

Well, if you guys don't mind being slightly cramped, we could meet at
my apartment on Lavelle Road.

Cheers,
Venky (the Second).

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[silk] America's Sri Ram Sena

2009-05-08 Thread Ravi Bellur
Like I said, we got 'em too. So concerned with repressive control that they
miss the essential points of their religions.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090508/ap_on_re_us/us_school_dance_flap


[silk] Indian IP laws are the world's most consumer friendly

2009-05-08 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरो नया]
Indian IP laws are the world's most consumer friendly

Wed, May 6 01:12 PM

Bangalore, May 6 (IANS) India has been ranked as the country with the
world's most consumer friendly intellectual property (IP) laws since
its copyright regulations allow citizens great freedom to access and
utilise information for educational and development purposes.

This emerged in a study of 16 countries, including economically
advanced ones, undertaken by the Malaysia-based Consumers
International, which calls itself the 'world's only global consumer
advocacy body'.

Consumers International said its first IP Watch List focused on
copyright - which has 'the most immediate impact on consumers' access
to knowledge and thereby on their educational, cultural and
developmental opportunities'.

In the listing which saw India come out on top, the other countries
with good ratings were South Korea, China, the US and Indonesia.

At the bottom of the list were Britain, Thailand, Argentina, Brazil and Chile.

India was rated high (with a B average on a scale of A to F) in terms
of its scope and duration of copyright as well as the freedom of
access and use it gave to home users, content creators, the press and
those in public affairs.

However, despite topping the list, India didn't do so well and got a C
scale in terms of the leeway it allows for disabled users to access
copyrighted work. Likewise, it got only a D when it came to freedom to
access and use copyrighted work by libraries.

Consumers International called for a 'balanced copyright regime in
which the importance of copyright flexibilities and of the maintenance
of a vibrant public domain are upheld'.

India's strengths and weaknesses of its copyright laws - from a
consumer's perspective -were closely studied and the detailed analysis
made available online at http://a2knetwork.org/reports2009/india.

The study praises India's Copyright Act as being 'a relatively
balanced instrument that recognises the interests of consumers through
its broad private use exception, and by facilitating the compulsory
licensing of works that would otherwise be unavailable'.

It points out that 'neither has India rushed to accede to the WIPO
(World Intellectual Property Organisation) Copyright Treaty, which
would expose India's consumers to the same problems experienced in
other jurisdictions that have prohibited the use of circumvention
devices to gain access to legally acquired copyright material'.

The study acknowledges that copyright infringement, particularly in
the form of physical media, is widespread in India. It adds though
that this must be taken in the context that India, although
fast-growing, remains one of the poorest countries in the world.

'Although India's cultural productivity over the centuries and to the
present day has been rich and prodigious, its citizens are
economically disadvantaged as consumers of the culture to which they
have contributed,' says the study, which goes counter to the dominant
trend of pushing for tighter copyright rules and enforcement.

It points to certain limitations - not all libraries can copy works
that cannot reasonably be obtained commercially. Only public libraries
can do so and they can make only three copies of such works.

No explicit rule exists to allow libraries to copy works for users for
the purpose of research or study. Only limited permission is given for
the reproduction of unpublished works by libraries. No provisions
allow for libraries to make preservation or archive copies of material
in their collection.

Of the significant findings, Consumers International said: 'The list
of countries that best support the interests of consumers is dominated
by large Asian economies but they are in odd company with the US,
which has regularly criticised those same countries for failing to
adequately protect and enforce intellectual property rights.'

It suggested that this 'reflects the fact' that US policy makers
'apply double standards when comparing their own copyright system to
systems from abroad'.

It said countries with copyright regimes that 'most disregard the
interests of consumers' was also an 'odd grouping'.

This included the country in which the copyright law was first
developed in the 16th century - Britain.

Together with it were 'developing and transitional economies, whose
outdated copyright laws fail to take advantage of all the
flexibilities that international law allows them to benefit local
consumers'.

Frederick Noronha

http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20090506/836/tbs-indian-ip-laws-are-the-world-s-most.html

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Re: [silk] Statistics on development taken by politicos

2009-05-08 Thread .
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Zainab Bawa bawazaina...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can you point out where Arvind has made this statement? I am keen to know.

In an interview on one of the news channels i was surfing across,
which is still hearsay.


 to PWC and the Bank's meddling in appointing PWC, were the result of this
 tactical use of RTI. Arvind himself mentioned to me in a meeting that RTI
 provided the sheen of legitimacy to a tactical act.
[snip]
 I am citing this story to indicate that everything don't exist in black and
 white and that instead of viewing politics, law, policy and democracy in
 normative and black and white terms, it is important to consider these in
 terms of balances of power and comparative justices. If we take democracy,
 law, policy and politics from normative pedestals and bring them down to
 everyday issues of contestations, then we may be able to move beyond lament
 and rant.

Actually his opinions during the interview didnt come across as a
rant, rather the opposite. Even if Arvindco made tactical use of the
RTI (for a public cause?) it does not seem evil, considering the
typical machiavellianism and apathy one lives with on a regular basis.

I was definitely impressed by his account of a female volunteer who
was working with them on the Delhi's PDS system, who refused to
crumble to her family pressure (to tie the knot to a US groom) even
after her throat was slashed.  Hers was the 6th or 7th attack and they
were on the verge of giving up but the girl persisted.



 Perhaps corruption and dirty politics is so
 brazenly woven into the fabric of daily life that we have no choice
 but accept and live with it. Is there no scope for change? :(

 Like said, this is what the usual story is. How do we move beyond this? Most
 discussions on politics end in such laments or otherwise rants!?!?!?! 

Would love to hear how too but I'd prefer to not judge those who dont
want to devote their lives for a social cause either. There are so
many issues here that one can get overwhelmed and choose to live life
instead of going against the tide. Not everyone can be like the lady
Arvind cited.  While there may be folks who in their entire life in
India have  _never_  paid a wee bit extra money to get the job done,
i'm yet to meet them :)



 Case would take a few years to be heard? It was just a shut case the moment
 the MMRDA told us to buzz off. Information on issues which can expose
 governments is hard to come by. In this case, the person filing the RTI was
 not only asking for information, but by virtue of asking for it, he was
 clearly indicating that something was going wrong in the way TDRs were being
 issued y MMRDA and used by builders. One also has to understand the
 political economy of land and of institutions such as MMRDA which was
 literally ruled over by Chief Ministers.

In Mumbai, mention land and even a kid would agree that it is
something of a scarce commodity. Yards away from where my ancestors
lived, there was lotsa empty land, some marshy, some reserved for
public parks and some private (iirc, belonged to a Parsi trust) and
some public land with illegal structures (not excluding slums).
Today, each of those spaces has a multi-storeyed structures (both
commercial and residential), the public parks (three such spaces) have
been  occupied by different religious bodies belonging to different
communities.  Private buildings have cropped up on land reserved for
general public utilities. One foreign business house got acres of
government land de-reserved and transferred to facilitate the
industrial progress and business growth (of Mumbai, ofcourse).
Fighting these lobby's (or any other for that matter) is not a
singular task and its harder because money has a way of silencing even
the best of good intent.


 On that note, why is this issue being compared with Kasab's case? The issue

A co-relational thread drift to the slow, hence delayed justice via
the indian legal system!?


 On another list called the Sarai Reader List, I find that
 discussions around every post eventually veer on the plight of Kashmiri
 Pandits even when the original intent of the making the post was to discuss
 other issues.

I'm not on the sarai list but since you mention the plight of Kashmiri
Pandits, i'll extrapolate with the feed-back heard from the refugees.
The Kashmiri Pandits (i know) feel they are treated as refugees in
their own country. They tend to compare the attention the media
reserves for other religions/communities and are upset that despite
being suddenly thrown out of their homes in Kashmir the rest of
India/world doesnt care enough.  Reminding them that most Indians are
temporarily outraged[1] does not soothe their ire.

Adding to the drift here from Jagannathan's column,
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1253540

For India, which faces several insurgencies and revolts, the first
lesson to learn is this: it must display determination and muscle
early in any war. Otherwise, 

Re: [silk] America's Sri Ram Sena

2009-05-08 Thread .
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Ravi Bellur rav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Like I said, we got 'em too. So concerned with repressive control that they
 miss the essential points of their religions.

would the breakaway LDS[1] fall into that category too? some years ago
a program on them was aired. but in the US today?? shocking and
unexpected, considering that child-marriage was a horrid Indian past.

[1] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalist_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter_Day_Saints

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