Re: [silk] A new buzzphrase: "procedural content creation"

[gabin kattukaran]

On Mar 2, 2014 11:41 PM, "Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan" <
chandrachoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

>
> A little baffled by the tone of voice here. For something that is a piece
> of self-promotion, on their own website, why write it like a newspaper
> article?

Perhaps this content was also created procedurally.

-gabin

[silk] Car rear view cams in India

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

I was shopping for car rear view cams and proximity sensors - but all the rear 
view cams + dashboard mounted screens on the market, at least in India, still 
seem to use RCA jacks for connectivity.  

Is there any more modern gear in the Indian market that I've missed out on?
  
--srs (iPad)

Re: [silk] Life is a game. This is your strategy guide.

[SS]

On Tue, 2014-03-04 at 11:00 +0530, Kiran K Karthikeyan wrote:
> Don't agree with this observation by the Kerala HC, but the article
> below[1] posted by Madhu yesterday on Facebook demonstrates how
> ingrained
> playing as a team is in India. 

>From a Hindu (also Jain and Sikh) viewpoint, "team play" is the basis of
Dharma which roughly corresponds to "duties of man".

Literally, "Dharma" is derived from the Sanskrit root "dhru" - which
means "to retain or preserve" and Dharma is what preserves and binds
society together. So it is teamwork by definition.

When you look at it this way, you can see how rulings that go against
what is called "Dharma" are considered as assaults on societies that
accept Dharma as their way of life. In any case Dharma, seen as "duty to
family and society"  is essentially  secular in concept and is practiced
by Indian Muslims and Christians as well. In his book about Mumbai,
("Maximum City") Suketu Mehta interviews and quotes a professional
assassin - a Muslim working for the Chota Shakeel gang (I think) who
performed his daily prayers without fail even as he bumped off people
because that was his "Dharm" which he had to fulfil.  The same man also
verbalized the sound of a bullet tearing through human flesh - I can't
recall the exact thing but it was described in the book as something
like "php". Charming stuff.

This "team play" is why Indian American parents pay for their children's
education, and get their parents over to the US to live out their last
days under their care in a repeat of what was done by their parents,
echoing what happens in millions of Indian families, including my own.

shiv

Re: [silk] Life is a game. This is your strategy guide.

[Srini RamaKrishnan]

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:08 AM, SS  wrote:
> The article looks at life like a single player game. Life can be a
> single player game or a team game in which multiple players cooperate.
> In India life is defined as a multiple player game in which your life is
> played in family and society from the day you are born.

Life is NOT - never ever a single player optimization game for any
living being. This is the law of nature. However the temptation of a
selfish life befalls every creature. The stronger they are the harder
they fall for it.

The team spirit of ants was fabulously documented by Dr. E.O Wilson,
the noted naturalist. In one of his examples, the riskiest duty in an
ant hill - guarding supply lines always falls on the oldest ants. They
embrace certain death in order to be of maximum use to the family.

To be selfish cannot easily enter the conception of an ant because to
believe so offers no advantages, only downsides. They can't survive
without each other, and even then it's a tough life. Their precarious
position in the food chain never allows them to forget the dangers of
life. Even if a few stupid truants wander off from duty, they never
last long on the outside and the contagion doesn't spread.

On the other hand, larger animals like male elephants will
occasionally wander off alone, fed up with having to put up with the
nonsense of the herd. The kids are annoying, there are constant fights
between the members, food is scarce and so on. So they succumb to
temptation because they can. Nevertheless, this is only initially fun
- it soon becomes a miserable existence. They finally return to the
herd when they grow calmer and more accepting of the
interconnectedness of their life with the rest of the herd for good
and bad.

Humans are different in that they never seem to learn, they go through
cycles of this madness.

The modern world clings to an illusion of freedom afforded by
temporary surplus riches. Yet this is mass disillusionment where the
price for the pursuit of freedom is a lot of traps. Financial traps,
loneliness traps, incompatibility traps.

Divorce rates are highest in the developed world -
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/People/Divorce-rate

If you possess a burning desire to be free, how can you stay married?

Life becomes a debt trap of college loans, mortgage and pension funds.
All of these were more or less provided for by the ancient family -
where the parents taught the children their skills, and housing and
old age care was almost always taken for granted. But that doesn't
mean the old days were perfect, it never has been. You had no choice
of profession, or housing or quality of care.

Now, the modern nuclear household people too have no choice but to
abandon some new found freedoms and band together, to create the
socialist nanny state. A state created in the image of the spurned
joint family and village.

If you belong in the nanny state you obviously can't do as you please.
The violent debate in America since the civil war is merely this. The
desire to enjoy the fruits of the nanny state and none of its costs.
Yet, lawlessness, slaves, no taxation, and soon guns - one by one the
freedoms fall because the alternative is unbearable. The land of the
not-so-free then.

The nanny state where it has evolved without as much trouble in places
like Singapore, Scandinavia, Japan and S. Korea soon offers not only
free education, healthcare, housing and retirement care but also child
care services, emotional support through social workers, and even
plays matchmaker by offering financial rewards to tie the knot. Yet
loneliness plagues their citizens because the nanny state lacks the
human contact of a family. So they nanny state still has a few
evolutions left to complete its cloning of the joint family.

Even though nanny state citizens have mostly become obedient servants
of the carrot and stick it rankles in their heart that they have gone
no further in net freedom. So this too will only last a while before
another evolutionary cycle is prompted by frustration.

Humans are experts at deluding themselves. At each stage in our
evolution from stone age to the plastic age social order has changed
to accommodate the insatiable need for freedom. However the desire for
selfish freedom is a bottomless pit that can never be filled. Every
new stage of freedom has spawned dissatisfaction and a new complaint.

To desire selfish freedom is to deny the interconnectedness of life,
and no one alive wins by betting against life.

So freedom is not found on the outside, but on the inside. It is found
in total acceptance of the reality that freedom as popularly sought is
a lie. When liberation occurs from within, all need to innovate on
one's social condition with a view to escape ends.

This is what every serious inquiry into life since the dawn of man has revealed.

We are lucky to live in age of plenty, where many of us spend years
specializing in a profession. We should take the op

Re: [silk] Life is a game. This is your strategy guide.

[Deepa Mohan]

>
>
>
> A selfish organism is the very definition of cancer.
>

I'm not sure if I agree with all that you said, Cheeni. But that last
line...breathtaking in its simplicity.

[silk] Fwd: [IP] Re The internet is fucked

[Udhay Shankar N]

Via Dave Farber's IP list. Ignoring many of the talking points in the rant
below, the claim I am most interested in is "The internet is a utility,
just like water and electricity."

I am really interested in the thoughts of silklisters on this, especially
folks like Sunil Abraham and Pranesh Prakash, who work in the policy area;
Cory Doctorow, who ceaselessly educates anyone who will listen on these
issues; and divers others.

Udhay


-- Forwarded message --
From: *Dewayne Hendricks* 
Date: Tuesday, March 4, 2014
Subject: [Dewayne-Net] The internet is fucked
To: Multiple recipients of Dewayne-Net 


[Note:  This item comes from friend Tim Pozar.  DLH]

From: Tim Pozar 
Subject: The internet is fucked
Date: March 4, 2014 at 8:13:00 PST
To: Dewayne Hendricks 

POLICY & LAW
The internet is fucked
By Nilay Patel
Feb 25 2014


Here's a simple truth: the internet has radically changed the world. Over
the course of the past 20 years, the idea of networking all the world's
computers has gone from a research science pipe dream to a necessary
condition of economic and social development, from government and
university labs to kitchen tables and city streets. We are all travelers
now, desperate souls searching for a signal to connect us all. It is
awesome.

And we're fucking everything up.

Massive companies like AT&T and Comcast have spent the first two months of
2014 boldly announcing plans to close and control the internet through
additional fees, pay-to-play schemes, and sheer brutal size -- all while the
legal rules designed to protect against these kinds of abuses were struck
down in court for basically making too much sense. "Broadband providers
represent a threat to internet openness," concluded Judge David Tatel in
Verizon's case against the FCC's Open Internet order, adding that the FCC
had provided ample evidence of internet companies abusing their market
power and had made "a rational connection between the facts found and the
choices made." Verizon argued strenuously, but had offered the court "no
persuasive reason to question that judgement."

Then Tatel cut the FCC off at the knees for making "a rather half-hearted
argument" in support of its authority to properly police these threats and
vacated the rules protecting the open internet, surprising observers on
both sides of the industry and sending new FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler into a
tailspin of empty promises seemingly designed to disappoint everyone.

"I expected the anti-blocking rule to be upheld," National Cable and
Telecommunications Association president and CEO Michael Powell told me
after the ruling was issued. Powell was chairman of the FCC under George W.
Bush; he issued the first no-blocking rules. "Judge Tatel basically said
the Commission didn't argue it properly."

In the meantime, the companies that control the internet have continued
down a dark path, free of any oversight or meaningful competition to check
their behavior. In January, AT&T announced a new "sponsored data" plan that
would dramatically alter the fierce one-click-away competition that's thus
far characterized the internet. Earlier this month, Comcast announced plans
to merge with Time Warner Cable, creating an internet service behemoth that
will serve 40 percent of Americans in 19 of the 20 biggest markets with
virtually no rivals.

And after months of declining Netflix performance on Comcast's network, the
two companies announced a new "paid peering" arrangement on Sunday, which
will see Netflix pay Comcast for better access to its customers, a
capitulation Netflix has been trying to avoid for years. Paid peering
arrangements are common among the network companies that connect the
backbones of the internet, but consumer companies like Netflix have
traditionally remained out of the fray -- and since there's no oversight or
transparency into the terms of the deal, it's impossible to know what kind
of precedent it sets. Broadband industry insiders insist loudly that the
deal is just business as usual, while outside observers are full of
concerns about the loss of competition and the increasing power of
consolidated network companies. Either way, it's clear that Netflix has
decided to take matters -- and costs -- into its own hands, instead of
relying on rational policy to create an effective and fair marketplace.

In a perfect storm of corporate greed and broken government, the internet
has gone from vibrant center of the new economy to burgeoning tool of
economic control. Where America once had Rockefeller and Carnegie, it now
has Comcast's Brian Roberts, AT&T's Randall Stephenson, and Verizon's
Lowell McAdam, robber barons for a new age of infrastructure monopoly built
on fiber optics and kitty GIFs.

And the power of the new network-industrial complex is immense and
unchecked, even by other giants: AT&T blocked Apple's FaceTime and Google's
Hangouts video chat services for the preposterously

Re: [silk] Fwd: [IP] Re The internet is fucked

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

That is probably the most, to use the same language, bs point of them all. 
Mostly parroted by a school of net neutrality people (Susan Crawford, Tim Wu 
etc) that really should know better, but that doesn't quite stop them. 

Come to think of it, they too like to use overblown and soundbite laden (though 
rather less crude) language in multiple blogs and press quotes, as tweet bait 
likely, for all that they're professors of law and you would expect more 
precise language from them.  Still much the same memes as this guy trots out .. 
Extortion, Internet tax etc etc when they talk about, say the recent netflix 
comcast paid peering deal.

And it has more disturbing consequences too than you would care to think about.

http://techliberation.com/2008/11/19/the-perils-of-thinking-of-broadband-as-a-public-utility/

--srs (iPad)

> On 05-Mar-2014, at 8:46, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:
> 
> Via Dave Farber's IP list. Ignoring many of the talking points in the rant
> below, the claim I am most interested in is "The internet is a utility,
> just like water and electricity."
> 
> I am really interested in the thoughts of silklisters on this, especially
> folks like Sunil Abraham and Pranesh Prakash, who work in the policy area;
> Cory Doctorow, who ceaselessly educates anyone who will listen on these
> issues; and divers others.
> 
> Udhay
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: *Dewayne Hendricks* 
> Date: Tuesday, March 4, 2014
> Subject: [Dewayne-Net] The internet is fucked
> To: Multiple recipients of Dewayne-Net 
> 
> 
> [Note:  This item comes from friend Tim Pozar.  DLH]
> 
> From: Tim Pozar 
> Subject: The internet is fucked
> Date: March 4, 2014 at 8:13:00 PST
> To: Dewayne Hendricks 
> 
> POLICY & LAW
> The internet is fucked
> By Nilay Patel
> Feb 25 2014
> 
> 
> Here's a simple truth: the internet has radically changed the world. Over
> the course of the past 20 years, the idea of networking all the world's
> computers has gone from a research science pipe dream to a necessary
> condition of economic and social development, from government and
> university labs to kitchen tables and city streets. We are all travelers
> now, desperate souls searching for a signal to connect us all. It is
> awesome.
> 
> And we're fucking everything up.
> 
> Massive companies like AT&T and Comcast have spent the first two months of
> 2014 boldly announcing plans to close and control the internet through
> additional fees, pay-to-play schemes, and sheer brutal size -- all while the
> legal rules designed to protect against these kinds of abuses were struck
> down in court for basically making too much sense. "Broadband providers
> represent a threat to internet openness," concluded Judge David Tatel in
> Verizon's case against the FCC's Open Internet order, adding that the FCC
> had provided ample evidence of internet companies abusing their market
> power and had made "a rational connection between the facts found and the
> choices made." Verizon argued strenuously, but had offered the court "no
> persuasive reason to question that judgement."
> 
> Then Tatel cut the FCC off at the knees for making "a rather half-hearted
> argument" in support of its authority to properly police these threats and
> vacated the rules protecting the open internet, surprising observers on
> both sides of the industry and sending new FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler into a
> tailspin of empty promises seemingly designed to disappoint everyone.
> 
> "I expected the anti-blocking rule to be upheld," National Cable and
> Telecommunications Association president and CEO Michael Powell told me
> after the ruling was issued. Powell was chairman of the FCC under George W.
> Bush; he issued the first no-blocking rules. "Judge Tatel basically said
> the Commission didn't argue it properly."
> 
> In the meantime, the companies that control the internet have continued
> down a dark path, free of any oversight or meaningful competition to check
> their behavior. In January, AT&T announced a new "sponsored data" plan that
> would dramatically alter the fierce one-click-away competition that's thus
> far characterized the internet. Earlier this month, Comcast announced plans
> to merge with Time Warner Cable, creating an internet service behemoth that
> will serve 40 percent of Americans in 19 of the 20 biggest markets with
> virtually no rivals.
> 
> And after months of declining Netflix performance on Comcast's network, the
> two companies announced a new "paid peering" arrangement on Sunday, which
> will see Netflix pay Comcast for better access to its customers, a
> capitulation Netflix has been trying to avoid for years. Paid peering
> arrangements are common among the network companies that connect the
> backbones of the internet, but consumer companies like Netflix have
> traditionally remained out of the fray -- and since there's no oversight or
> transparency into the terms of t

Re: [silk] Fwd: [IP] Re The internet is fucked

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

This one too http://bennett.com/blog/2008/11/just-another-utility/

--srs (iPad)

> On 05-Mar-2014, at 8:55, Suresh Ramasubramanian  wrote:
> 
> That is probably the most, to use the same language, bs point of them all. 
> Mostly parroted by a school of net neutrality people (Susan Crawford, Tim Wu 
> etc) that really should know better, but that doesn't quite stop them. 
> 
> Come to think of it, they too like to use overblown and soundbite laden 
> (though rather less crude) language in multiple blogs and press quotes, as 
> tweet bait likely, for all that they're professors of law and you would 
> expect more precise language from them.  Still much the same memes as this 
> guy trots out .. Extortion, Internet tax etc etc when they talk about, say 
> the recent netflix comcast paid peering deal.
> 
> And it has more disturbing consequences too than you would care to think 
> about.
> 
> http://techliberation.com/2008/11/19/the-perils-of-thinking-of-broadband-as-a-public-utility/
> 
> --srs (iPad)
> 
>> On 05-Mar-2014, at 8:46, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:
>> 
>> Via Dave Farber's IP list. Ignoring many of the talking points in the rant
>> below, the claim I am most interested in is "The internet is a utility,
>> just like water and electricity."
>> 
>> I am really interested in the thoughts of silklisters on this, especially
>> folks like Sunil Abraham and Pranesh Prakash, who work in the policy area;
>> Cory Doctorow, who ceaselessly educates anyone who will listen on these
>> issues; and divers others.
>> 
>> Udhay
>> 
>> 
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: *Dewayne Hendricks* 
>> Date: Tuesday, March 4, 2014
>> Subject: [Dewayne-Net] The internet is fucked
>> To: Multiple recipients of Dewayne-Net 
>> 
>> 
>> [Note:  This item comes from friend Tim Pozar.  DLH]
>> 
>> From: Tim Pozar 
>> Subject: The internet is fucked
>> Date: March 4, 2014 at 8:13:00 PST
>> To: Dewayne Hendricks 
>> 
>> POLICY & LAW
>> The internet is fucked
>> By Nilay Patel
>> Feb 25 2014
>> 
>> 
>> Here's a simple truth: the internet has radically changed the world. Over
>> the course of the past 20 years, the idea of networking all the world's
>> computers has gone from a research science pipe dream to a necessary
>> condition of economic and social development, from government and
>> university labs to kitchen tables and city streets. We are all travelers
>> now, desperate souls searching for a signal to connect us all. It is
>> awesome.
>> 
>> And we're fucking everything up.
>> 
>> Massive companies like AT&T and Comcast have spent the first two months of
>> 2014 boldly announcing plans to close and control the internet through
>> additional fees, pay-to-play schemes, and sheer brutal size -- all while the
>> legal rules designed to protect against these kinds of abuses were struck
>> down in court for basically making too much sense. "Broadband providers
>> represent a threat to internet openness," concluded Judge David Tatel in
>> Verizon's case against the FCC's Open Internet order, adding that the FCC
>> had provided ample evidence of internet companies abusing their market
>> power and had made "a rational connection between the facts found and the
>> choices made." Verizon argued strenuously, but had offered the court "no
>> persuasive reason to question that judgement."
>> 
>> Then Tatel cut the FCC off at the knees for making "a rather half-hearted
>> argument" in support of its authority to properly police these threats and
>> vacated the rules protecting the open internet, surprising observers on
>> both sides of the industry and sending new FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler into a
>> tailspin of empty promises seemingly designed to disappoint everyone.
>> 
>> "I expected the anti-blocking rule to be upheld," National Cable and
>> Telecommunications Association president and CEO Michael Powell told me
>> after the ruling was issued. Powell was chairman of the FCC under George W.
>> Bush; he issued the first no-blocking rules. "Judge Tatel basically said
>> the Commission didn't argue it properly."
>> 
>> In the meantime, the companies that control the internet have continued
>> down a dark path, free of any oversight or meaningful competition to check
>> their behavior. In January, AT&T announced a new "sponsored data" plan that
>> would dramatically alter the fierce one-click-away competition that's thus
>> far characterized the internet. Earlier this month, Comcast announced plans
>> to merge with Time Warner Cable, creating an internet service behemoth that
>> will serve 40 percent of Americans in 19 of the 20 biggest markets with
>> virtually no rivals.
>> 
>> And after months of declining Netflix performance on Comcast's network, the
>> two companies announced a new "paid peering" arrangement on Sunday, which
>> will see Netflix pay Comcast for better access to its customers, a
>> capitulation Netflix has been trying to avoid for years. Paid 

Re: [silk] Fwd: [IP] Re The internet is fucked

[Cory Doctorow]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256

I pretty much totally agree.

The triumverate of Internet rules we need are:

* Net Neutrality (either by forcing line-sharing like in the UK, or
through direct regulation of carriers on the basis that they receive a
massive public subsidy in the form of rights-of-way)

* Vuln neutrality: an end to rules like the DMCA (and its global
cousins) that prohibit reporting bugs

* Rule of law: an end to censorship without court orders (DMCA
takedown notices) and without penalty for abuse. Filing a bad-faith
takedown should be criminally punishable as perjury, should be grounds
for dismissal from the bar (if applicable), and should also be grounds
for a civil action with exemplary damages

Additionally, national security agencies' primary role should be the
strengthening of cyber-security: reporting and patching defects in
common OSes and applications, improving cryptographic standards, etc.

Cory

On 05/03/14 03:16, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> Via Dave Farber's IP list. Ignoring many of the talking points in
> the rant below, the claim I am most interested in is "The internet
> is a utility, just like water and electricity."
> 
> I am really interested in the thoughts of silklisters on this,
> especially folks like Sunil Abraham and Pranesh Prakash, who work
> in the policy area; Cory Doctorow, who ceaselessly educates anyone
> who will listen on these issues; and divers others.
> 
> Udhay
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message -- From: *Dewayne Hendricks*
>  Date: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 Subject:
> [Dewayne-Net] The internet is fucked To: Multiple recipients of
> Dewayne-Net 
> 
> 
> [Note:  This item comes from friend Tim Pozar.  DLH]
> 
> From: Tim Pozar  Subject: The internet is fucked 
> Date: March 4, 2014 at 8:13:00 PST To: Dewayne Hendricks
> 
> 
> POLICY & LAW The internet is fucked By Nilay Patel Feb 25 2014 
> 
> 
> Here's a simple truth: the internet has radically changed the
> world. Over the course of the past 20 years, the idea of networking
> all the world's computers has gone from a research science pipe
> dream to a necessary condition of economic and social development,
> from government and university labs to kitchen tables and city
> streets. We are all travelers now, desperate souls searching for a
> signal to connect us all. It is awesome.
> 
> And we're fucking everything up.
> 
> Massive companies like AT&T and Comcast have spent the first two
> months of 2014 boldly announcing plans to close and control the
> internet through additional fees, pay-to-play schemes, and sheer
> brutal size -- all while the legal rules designed to protect
> against these kinds of abuses were struck down in court for
> basically making too much sense. "Broadband providers represent a
> threat to internet openness," concluded Judge David Tatel in 
> Verizon's case against the FCC's Open Internet order, adding that
> the FCC had provided ample evidence of internet companies abusing
> their market power and had made "a rational connection between the
> facts found and the choices made." Verizon argued strenuously, but
> had offered the court "no persuasive reason to question that
> judgement."
> 
> Then Tatel cut the FCC off at the knees for making "a rather
> half-hearted argument" in support of its authority to properly
> police these threats and vacated the rules protecting the open
> internet, surprising observers on both sides of the industry and
> sending new FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler into a tailspin of empty
> promises seemingly designed to disappoint everyone.
> 
> "I expected the anti-blocking rule to be upheld," National Cable
> and Telecommunications Association president and CEO Michael Powell
> told me after the ruling was issued. Powell was chairman of the FCC
> under George W. Bush; he issued the first no-blocking rules. "Judge
> Tatel basically said the Commission didn't argue it properly."
> 
> In the meantime, the companies that control the internet have
> continued down a dark path, free of any oversight or meaningful
> competition to check their behavior. In January, AT&T announced a
> new "sponsored data" plan that would dramatically alter the fierce
> one-click-away competition that's thus far characterized the
> internet. Earlier this month, Comcast announced plans to merge with
> Time Warner Cable, creating an internet service behemoth that will
> serve 40 percent of Americans in 19 of the 20 biggest markets with 
> virtually no rivals.
> 
> And after months of declining Netflix performance on Comcast's
> network, the two companies announced a new "paid peering"
> arrangement on Sunday, which will see Netflix pay Comcast for
> better access to its customers, a capitulation Netflix has been
> trying to avoid for years. Paid peering arrangements are common
> among the network companies that connect the backbones of the
> internet, but consumer companies like Netflix have tradi

Re: [silk] Fwd: [IP] Re The internet is fucked

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Issues with reporting bugs is something that is a kind of side effect of the 
DMCA - but the vuln report community has already split into trusted / vetted 
groups where a lot more takes place than in public groups like full disclosure. 
  For that part I have no dispute with you at all.  Neither do I disagree with 
'rule of law'.

The network neutrality debate is one that has been vitiated with more ideology 
than anything else, a penchant for regulating - one that makes absolutely no 
distinction (among its leading commenters, as I have seen before) about 
filtering for legitimate security (spam and malware) versus discrimination 
based on content.  And its leading proponents see no problem with calling paid 
peering - which IS content neutral, and which is based on traffic ratios rather 
than content - "extortion".

There are legitimate policy arguments to be made on that side of things.  A 
penchant for actual public policy rather than playing politics might help them 
make their case a lot better.

--srs (iPad)

> On 05-Mar-2014, at 11:49, Cory Doctorow  wrote:
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA256
> 
> I pretty much totally agree.
> 
> The triumverate of Internet rules we need are:
> 
> * Net Neutrality (either by forcing line-sharing like in the UK, or
> through direct regulation of carriers on the basis that they receive a
> massive public subsidy in the form of rights-of-way)
> 
> * Vuln neutrality: an end to rules like the DMCA (and its global
> cousins) that prohibit reporting bugs
> 
> * Rule of law: an end to censorship without court orders (DMCA
> takedown notices) and without penalty for abuse. Filing a bad-faith
> takedown should be criminally punishable as perjury, should be grounds
> for dismissal from the bar (if applicable), and should also be grounds
> for a civil action with exemplary damages
> 
> Additionally, national security agencies' primary role should be the
> strengthening of cyber-security: reporting and patching defects in
> common OSes and applications, improving cryptographic standards, etc.
> 
> Cory
> 
>> On 05/03/14 03:16, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
>> Via Dave Farber's IP list. Ignoring many of the talking points in
>> the rant below, the claim I am most interested in is "The internet
>> is a utility, just like water and electricity."
>> 
>> I am really interested in the thoughts of silklisters on this,
>> especially folks like Sunil Abraham and Pranesh Prakash, who work
>> in the policy area; Cory Doctorow, who ceaselessly educates anyone
>> who will listen on these issues; and divers others.
>> 
>> Udhay
>> 
>> 
>> -- Forwarded message -- From: *Dewayne Hendricks*
>>  Date: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 Subject:
>> [Dewayne-Net] The internet is fucked To: Multiple recipients of
>> Dewayne-Net 
>> 
>> 
>> [Note:  This item comes from friend Tim Pozar.  DLH]
>> 
>> From: Tim Pozar  Subject: The internet is fucked 
>> Date: March 4, 2014 at 8:13:00 PST To: Dewayne Hendricks
>> 
>> 
>> POLICY & LAW The internet is fucked By Nilay Patel Feb 25 2014 
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>> Here's a simple truth: the internet has radically changed the
>> world. Over the course of the past 20 years, the idea of networking
>> all the world's computers has gone from a research science pipe
>> dream to a necessary condition of economic and social development,
>> from government and university labs to kitchen tables and city
>> streets. We are all travelers now, desperate souls searching for a
>> signal to connect us all. It is awesome.
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>> And we're fucking everything up.
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>> Massive companies like AT&T and Comcast have spent the first two
>> months of 2014 boldly announcing plans to close and control the
>> internet through additional fees, pay-to-play schemes, and sheer
>> brutal size -- all while the legal rules designed to protect
>> against these kinds of abuses were struck down in court for
>> basically making too much sense. "Broadband providers represent a
>> threat to internet openness," concluded Judge David Tatel in 
>> Verizon's case against the FCC's Open Internet order, adding that
>> the FCC had provided ample evidence of internet companies abusing
>> their market power and had made "a rational connection between the
>> facts found and the choices made." Verizon argued strenuously, but
>> had offered the court "no persuasive reason to question that
>> judgement."
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>> Then Tatel cut the FCC off at the knees for making "a rather
>> half-hearted argument" in support of its authority to properly
>> police these threats and vacated the rules protecting the open
>> internet, surprising observers on both sides of the industry and
>> sending new FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler into a tailspin of empty
>> promises seemingly designed to disappoint everyone.
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>> "I expected the anti-blocking rule to be upheld," National Cable
>> and Telecommunications Association president and CEO Michael Powell
>> told me after