Re: [silk] Singapore serviced apartment?
Thank you, Chew Lin. All set! -Original Message- From: silklist [mailto:silklist-bounces+sarirai=gmail@lists.hserus.net] On Behalf Of Chew Lin Kay Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 3:56 AM To: silklist Subject: Re: [silk] Singapore serviced apartment? There's a hotel just across (relatively speaking) from where you need to be -- Hotel Park Avenue Rochester. For serviced apartments this showed up: https://singapore.lmbhousing.com/lmb-locations/one-north-buona-vista On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:15 AM, Saritha Rai wrote: > Thanks a lot, Lakshmi. Will try! > Thanks Udhay. > > -Original Message- > From: silklist > [mailto:silklist-bounces+sarirai=gmail@lists.hserus.net] > On Behalf Of Udhay Shankar N > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 10:03 AM > To: Silk List > Subject: Re: [silk] Singapore serviced apartment? > > [pasting in this message from Lakshmi as the list software discarded > it for being sent from an ID that is not susbcribed to the list] > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Lakshmi Pratury > To: silklist@lists.hserus.net > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 09:53:57 +0530 > Subject: Re: [silk] Singapore serviced apartment? > There is a place called the "big hotel" with rather tiny rooms but > very clean and smart and most importantly, for us as a start up, very > affordable. They call a cab if u want and its not too far to a train > station. Give it a try! > > On Sep 4, 2017 8:41 AM, "Saritha Rai" wrote: > > > Thanks. Nothing relevant showing up, unfortunately. > > > > >
Re: [silk] Kids and porn
Alaric Snell-Pym wrote: I probably sound like a porn apologist... I'm not. I think the idea of consenting adults sharing pictures/videos of themselves shagging, or factual or fictional written accounts, etc, for their own or their recipient's titilation or for money, is perfectly fine and even laudable. But the porn *industry* is horrible, exploitative, and is spreading disinformation. I'm sex-positive, but, by and large, porn-negative, *because women in porn almost never look like they're enjoying it*. If porn celebrated female ecstasy rather than female humiliation and degradation, I'd be bang behind it. As a parent: We're very open with our children about sex, with a view to pre-educating them before they get misinformed by their peers or the Internet... My youngest just turned 18. We were very open about sex and reproduction, and made sure that good, accurate information was available to our children. We also told them that they'd likely run into porn online, but that we don't think it's a good idea to spend a lot of time on porn because it's unrealistic and largely unsatisfying. We talked about how much more satisfying sex is when you have a partner you love and good communication. Porn was no more than a blip on the online radar in our house. Supporting our kids through various types of online meanness (sexual harassment, bullying, gaslighting, ridicule, pressure to send naked selfies, etc.) took a lot more time and energy than porn ever did. The information Sriram provided earlier would be good to share with young teens to help them decide to develop healthy habits around porn. --hmm
Re: [silk] Kids and porn
On Tue., 5 Sep. 2017, 3:39 am Heather Madrone wrote: > Charles Haynes wrote: > > Given that "porn addiction" isn't any kind of scientific thing I would be > > extremely surprised at any scientifix studies at all linking it to > anything. > > There have certainly been studies that link porn viewing/consumption to > various minor ills, so I suppose you are extremely surprised. > I am indeed because I haven't seen any such. Do you have a pointer handy? Thanks, -- Charles
Re: [silk] Singapore serviced apartment?
There's a hotel just across (relatively speaking) from where you need to be -- Hotel Park Avenue Rochester. For serviced apartments this showed up: https://singapore.lmbhousing.com/lmb-locations/one-north-buona-vista On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:15 AM, Saritha Rai wrote: > Thanks a lot, Lakshmi. Will try! > Thanks Udhay. > > -Original Message- > From: silklist [mailto:silklist-bounces+sarirai=gmail@lists.hserus.net] > On Behalf Of Udhay Shankar N > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 10:03 AM > To: Silk List > Subject: Re: [silk] Singapore serviced apartment? > > [pasting in this message from Lakshmi as the list software discarded it for > being sent from an ID that is not susbcribed to the list] > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Lakshmi Pratury > To: silklist@lists.hserus.net > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 09:53:57 +0530 > Subject: Re: [silk] Singapore serviced apartment? > There is a place called the "big hotel" with rather tiny rooms but very > clean and smart and most importantly, for us as a start up, very > affordable. They call a cab if u want and its not too far to a train > station. Give it a try! > > On Sep 4, 2017 8:41 AM, "Saritha Rai" wrote: > > > Thanks. Nothing relevant showing up, unfortunately. > > > > >
Re: [silk] Kids and porn
On 04/09/17 15:21, Sriram Karra wrote: > *"Conclusions: Increased access to the Internet by adolescents has created > unprecedented **opportunities for sexual education, learning, and growth. > Conversely, **the risk of harm that is evident in the literature has led > researchers to investigate **adolescent exposure to online pornography in > an effort to elucidate **these relationships. Collectively, these studies > suggest that youth who **consume pornography may develop unrealistic sexual > values and beliefs. **Among the findings, higher levels of permissive > sexual attitudes, sexual preoccupation, **and earlier sexual > experimentation have been correlated with **more frequent consumption of > pornography. Researchers have had difficulty **replicating these results, > however, and as a result the aggregate literature has **failed to indicate > conclusive results. Nevertheless, consistent findings have **emerged > linking adolescent use of pornography that depicts violence with **increased > degrees of sexually aggressive behavior.* I suspect that porn viewing causes harm through misinformation, but not through some kind of "can't get aroused by real human beings" psychological damage. Although the misinformation may lead to psychological damage... Is porn addiction really a thing? If so, is porn the problem, or is this just something a person with a compulsion issue has latched onto in some cases, and they'd have latched onto something else otherwise? I think one must be careful here. Suppose studies found: * People get addicted to porn * People who view porn lots have a higher than usual level of mental illness, particularly sexual dysfunction ...you can't blame porn based on *just* that (although that situation would justify doing further studies), because it may be that people with pre-existing psychological issues are more attracted to porn than others. I probably sound like a porn apologist... I'm not. I think the idea of consenting adults sharing pictures/videos of themselves shagging, or factual or fictional written accounts, etc, for their own or their recipient's titilation or for money, is perfectly fine and even laudable. But the porn *industry* is horrible, exploitative, and is spreading disinformation. As a parent: We're very open with our children about sex, with a view to pre-educating them before they get misinformed by their peers or the Internet... ABS -- Alaric Snell-Pym http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/alaric/
Re: [silk] Searching in google is a result of prior synapse - true or false ?
On 08/11/2017 03:47 PM, Vasanth Kamath wrote: I had asked. - "Searching in google is a result of prior synapse - true or false ?” The word google was intentionally inserted to make it sound more real. In the backdrop of a simulated world, I believe that there is significant influence of cues coming from multiple external dimensions on what one searches for vs a sense of discovery..so I wanted to seek thoughts from this group if one could “search” without bias or without any sort of prior conditioninng So, You often search when you know what you want to search.. How do you know what you want? How was it conditioned ? how does one perfect the art of searching? Or better conditioning? Is it better search terms? OR Is it to know better what you want? OR Is it to know various methods of searching and retrieval? Of course it's conditioned. Your question itself is the product of "conditioning". You're asking your question in a conditioned environment - you have generated bias by asking this question on a list which you thought could provide pointers on a question of bias. Get my drift? Your question(s) didn't really make sense to me. Unless you've got a specific angle that you're trying to get a response to. Or generally trolling the list :) Bharath
Re: [silk] Kids and porn
Charles Haynes wrote: Given that "porn addiction" isn't any kind of scientific thing I would be extremely surprised at any scientifix studies at all linking it to anything. There have certainly been studies that link porn viewing/consumption to various minor ills, so I suppose you are extremely surprised. My personal favorite involved male turkeys, who will spend so much time pursuing cardboard cut-outs of hot hen turkeys that they fail to copulate with real live hen turkeys in the same enclosure. Human males are far too smart to ever fall for such obvious fakery, of course. --hmm
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Re: [silk] Kids and porn
Here is a publication that was cited in an article that was circulating on Facebook a few months back. I have no idea about the reputation of the journal, but the Results of the study are disturbing but not counter-intuitive. http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/bmjopen/4/8/e004996.full.pdf *"Results: Anal heterosex often appeared to be painful, **risky and coercive, particularly for women. Interviewees **frequently cited pornography as the ‘explanation’ for **anal sex, yet their accounts revealed a complex context **with availability of pornography being only one **element. Other key elements included competition **between men; the claim that ‘people must like it if they **do it’ (made alongside the seemingly contradictory **expectation that it will be painful for women); and, **crucially, normalisation of coercion and ‘accidental’ **penetration. It seemed that men were expected to **persuade or coerce reluctant partners.* *Conclusions: Young people’s narratives normalised **coercive, painful and unsafe anal heterosex. This study* *suggests an urgent need for harm reduction efforts **targeting anal sex to help encourage discussion about **mutuality and consent, reduce risky and painful **techniques and challenge views that normalise **coercion"* That paper includes a reference to an earlier review of the literature on this subject. Again, the conclusions are disturbing, but not counter-intuitive in the least. http://psych.utoronto.ca/users/tafarodi/psy427/articles/Owens%20et%20al.%20( 2012).pdf *"Conclusions: Increased access to the Internet by adolescents has created unprecedented **opportunities for sexual education, learning, and growth. Conversely, **the risk of harm that is evident in the literature has led researchers to investigate **adolescent exposure to online pornography in an effort to elucidate **these relationships. Collectively, these studies suggest that youth who **consume pornography may develop unrealistic sexual values and beliefs. **Among the findings, higher levels of permissive sexual attitudes, sexual preoccupation, **and earlier sexual experimentation have been correlated with **more frequent consumption of pornography. Researchers have had difficulty **replicating these results, however, and as a result the aggregate literature has **failed to indicate conclusive results. Nevertheless, consistent findings have **emerged linking adolescent use of pornography that depicts violence with **increased degrees of sexually aggressive behavior.* *The literature does indicate some correlation between adolescents’ use **of pornography and self-concept. Girls report feeling physically inferior to **the women they view in pornographic material, while boys fear they may **not be as virile or able to perform as the men in these media. Adolescents **also report that their use of pornography decreased as their self-confidence **and social development increase. Additionally, research suggests that adolescents **who use pornography, especially that found on the Internet, have **lower degrees of social integration, increases in conduct problems, higher **levels of delinquent behavior, higher incidence of depressive symptoms, and **decreased emotional bonding with caregivers."* On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Charles Haynes wrote: > Given that "porn addiction" isn't any kind of scientific thing I would be > extremely surprised at any scientifix studies at all linking it to > anything. > > -- Charles > > On Mon., 4 Sep. 2017, 6:56 pm Nikhil Mehra > wrote: > > > On 4 September 2017 at 05:07, Charles Haynes > > wrote: > > > > > As far as I know there is no scientific evidence that viewing porn is > > > harmful. Lots of anecdote, lots of "it's obvious that..." but no data. > > > > > > So what's the (supposed) problem? > > > > > > -- Charles > > > > > > > Aren't their studies now linking behavioural and physiological changes to > > porn addiction? Like erectile dysfunction in physiologically healthy > males? > > Some of the theories are available here: www.yourbrainonporn.com > > > > > > Nikhil Mehra > > Advocate > > B.A., LL.B. (Hons.) (NLSIU), LL.M (Northwestern) > > > > Chambers of Nikhil Mehra > > E-348 Ground Floor | Greater Kailash - II | New Delhi 110048 > > +91 98107 76904 > > nikhil.mehra...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > On Sun., 3 Sep. 2017, 10:35 pm Ingrid > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 03-Sep-2017, at 9:50 AM, Udhay Shankar N > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I saw this article [1] that makes the (quite obvious, if you think > > > about > > > > > it) case > > > > > that kids will look at porn whether you want them to or not - and > > > that > > > > > people need to figure out how they will deal with that. > > > > > > > > > > Since many people on silk are in the right demographic to have seen > > > this > > > > > either with their own kids or with friends/family, please share > > > > > thoughts/advise/experiences. > > > > > > > > > > Udhay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://ww
Re: [silk] Kids and porn
Given that "porn addiction" isn't any kind of scientific thing I would be extremely surprised at any scientifix studies at all linking it to anything. -- Charles On Mon., 4 Sep. 2017, 6:56 pm Nikhil Mehra wrote: > On 4 September 2017 at 05:07, Charles Haynes > wrote: > > > As far as I know there is no scientific evidence that viewing porn is > > harmful. Lots of anecdote, lots of "it's obvious that..." but no data. > > > > So what's the (supposed) problem? > > > > -- Charles > > > > Aren't their studies now linking behavioural and physiological changes to > porn addiction? Like erectile dysfunction in physiologically healthy males? > Some of the theories are available here: www.yourbrainonporn.com > > > Nikhil Mehra > Advocate > B.A., LL.B. (Hons.) (NLSIU), LL.M (Northwestern) > > Chambers of Nikhil Mehra > E-348 Ground Floor | Greater Kailash - II | New Delhi 110048 > +91 98107 76904 > nikhil.mehra...@gmail.com > > > > > > On Sun., 3 Sep. 2017, 10:35 pm Ingrid wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 03-Sep-2017, at 9:50 AM, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > > > > > > > > I saw this article [1] that makes the (quite obvious, if you think > > about > > > > it) case > > > > that kids will look at porn whether you want them to or not - and > > that > > > > people need to figure out how they will deal with that. > > > > > > > > Since many people on silk are in the right demographic to have seen > > this > > > > either with their own kids or with friends/family, please share > > > > thoughts/advise/experiences. > > > > > > > > Udhay > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://www.wired.com/2017/08/kids-and-porn/ > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com)) > > > > > > Similar advice from NSPCC whose guides on online safety I find useful. > > > > > > > > > https://www.nspcc.org.uk/globalassets/documents/advice- > > and-info/online-pornography-keep-child-safe.pdf > > > > > > Ingrid Srinath > > >
Re: [silk] Kids and porn
On 4 September 2017 at 05:07, Charles Haynes wrote: > As far as I know there is no scientific evidence that viewing porn is > harmful. Lots of anecdote, lots of "it's obvious that..." but no data. > > So what's the (supposed) problem? > > -- Charles > Aren't their studies now linking behavioural and physiological changes to porn addiction? Like erectile dysfunction in physiologically healthy males? Some of the theories are available here: www.yourbrainonporn.com Nikhil Mehra Advocate B.A., LL.B. (Hons.) (NLSIU), LL.M (Northwestern) Chambers of Nikhil Mehra E-348 Ground Floor | Greater Kailash - II | New Delhi 110048 +91 98107 76904 nikhil.mehra...@gmail.com > > On Sun., 3 Sep. 2017, 10:35 pm Ingrid wrote: > > > > > > On 03-Sep-2017, at 9:50 AM, Udhay Shankar N wrote: > > > > > > I saw this article [1] that makes the (quite obvious, if you think > about > > > it) case > > > that kids will look at porn whether you want them to or not - and > that > > > people need to figure out how they will deal with that. > > > > > > Since many people on silk are in the right demographic to have seen > this > > > either with their own kids or with friends/family, please share > > > thoughts/advise/experiences. > > > > > > Udhay > > > > > > > > > [1] https://www.wired.com/2017/08/kids-and-porn/ > > > > > > -- > > > ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com)) > > > > Similar advice from NSPCC whose guides on online safety I find useful. > > > > > > https://www.nspcc.org.uk/globalassets/documents/advice- > and-info/online-pornography-keep-child-safe.pdf > > > > Ingrid Srinath >
Re: [silk] Singapore serviced apartment?
Thanks a lot, Lakshmi. Will try! Thanks Udhay. -Original Message- From: silklist [mailto:silklist-bounces+sarirai=gmail@lists.hserus.net] On Behalf Of Udhay Shankar N Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 10:03 AM To: Silk List Subject: Re: [silk] Singapore serviced apartment? [pasting in this message from Lakshmi as the list software discarded it for being sent from an ID that is not susbcribed to the list] -- Forwarded message -- From: Lakshmi Pratury To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Cc: Bcc: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 09:53:57 +0530 Subject: Re: [silk] Singapore serviced apartment? There is a place called the "big hotel" with rather tiny rooms but very clean and smart and most importantly, for us as a start up, very affordable. They call a cab if u want and its not too far to a train station. Give it a try! On Sep 4, 2017 8:41 AM, "Saritha Rai" wrote: > Thanks. Nothing relevant showing up, unfortunately. >
