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I haven't purchased a new book since I got the Sony Reader 2 years ago. Still, this has increased my dependence on (paper-based) magazines and newspapers for when airplanes are taking off/landing. 1) I prefer the Sony Reader because it does support more formats than Kindle (atleast it did when I was comparing them prior to making my purchase). 2) Funny thing with the Sony Reader, the battery lasts long enough that I occasionally *forget* to check the remaining charge before going on trips. 3) Was at the beach last 5 days and finished Foundation and Quick and the Dead and 1 other L'amour western book with battery still over 75%, to give you an idea of battery life. - Vinit -Original Message- From: silklist-bounces+vinit=bhansalimail@lists.hserus.net [mailto:silklist-bounces+vinit=bhansalimail@lists.hserus.net] On Behalf Of Udhay Shankar N Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:58 AM To: Silk List Subject: [silk] Kindle readers? From a journo friend of mine. Any suggestions? hope all is well. so far so good here. would you know anyone in bangalore who read books only on kindle, i-pad, etc? it's for an article. Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
Re: [silk] Kindle readers?
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Charles Haynes charles.hay...@gmail.comwrote: I get 24hrs+ on my phone, 12+ even when reading books pretty continuously. The e-ink platforms have very good battery life but they (and paper) need external light. I can read books on my phone in the dark! What phone do you use? I would very much like one of these mythical devices. Kiran
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On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda j...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Charles Haynes charles.hay...@gmail.comwrote: I get 24hrs+ on my phone, 12+ even when reading books pretty continuously. The e-ink platforms have very good battery life but they (and paper) need external light. I can read books on my phone in the dark! What phone do you use? I would very much like one of these mythical devices. Kiran +1. Especially because my current phone is now threatening to die any minute. This sounds like a dream phone. Cheers Nishant -- Nishant Shah Doctoral Candidate, CSCS, Bangalore. Director (Research), Centre for Internet and Society,( www.cis-india.org ) Asia Awards Fellow, 2008-09 # 00-91-9740074884
Re: [silk] Kindle readers?
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 01:46:53PM +0530, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Charles Haynes charles.hay...@gmail.comwrote: I get 24hrs+ on my phone, 12+ even when reading books pretty continuously. The e-ink platforms have very good battery life but they People who use the iPad report 10-12 hours of effective use. (and paper) need external light. I can read books on my phone in the dark! Nevermind that such anemic readers wouldn't be able to handle DJVU and PDF scans (e.g. 325 k books in the Library Genesis), which can be large and are frequently in color. What phone do you use? I would very much like one of these mythical devices. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE
Re: [silk] Kindle readers?
Nevermind that such anemic readers wouldn't be able to handle DJVU and PDF scans (e.g. 325 k books in the Library Genesis), which can be large and are frequently in color. Sure, but they're already good enough for me - I can read 80% of the books I want to read in ebook form which was the tipping point for me to give up paper. What phone do you use? I would very much like one of these mythical devices. Android G1 with extra capacity battery. I like the fact that it has a real keyboard. -- Charles
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On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 08:08:58PM +1100, Charles Haynes wrote: Sure, but they're already good enough for me - I can read 80% of the books I want to read in ebook form which was the tipping point for me to give up paper. For me, availability of very large scientific libraries compact enough to be hosted on inexpensive servers makes the price (even it's 1 kUSD) of the reader irrelevant. What phone do you use? I would very much like one of these mythical devices. Android G1 with extra capacity battery. I like the fact that it has a real keyboard. Third party battery? I have an application where I need to take something like a Nexus S, and quadruple the runtime. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE
Re: [silk] Kindle readers?
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: For me, availability of very large scientific libraries compact enough to be hosted on inexpensive servers makes the price (even it's 1 kUSD) of the reader irrelevant. Right, including the possibility of hosting my own. I got an inexpensive sheet fed scanner (Fujitsu ScanSnap) years ago to convert my personal bits-of-paper to pdf. Then I got a relatively inexpensive mail processing service (EarthClass Mail) to turn my small remaining physical mail correspondence to pdf (and give me a stable US address that forwards my mail to me electronically). So books were the last bastion of paper in my life, and now I've pretty much given them up. If it's not available as an ebook, or in the nearest library, I don't read it. Android G1 with extra capacity battery. I like the fact that it has a real keyboard. Third party battery? I have an application where I need to take something like a Nexus S, and quadruple the runtime. Yeah a generic chinese double capacity battery with the original battery as a spare. I don't know of anything that will keep the nexus S running that long except an external USB power source, which is east to arrange ias long as small and light isn't a primary requirement. -- Charles
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On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Sumant Srivathsan suma...@gmail.com wrote: I can see myself giving up printed books for good, once the inventory and pricing of e-books catch up with my expectations. That last part of the sentence, after the comma anyone at all who is *exclusively* an e-book reader? I'd be very interested to meet hem/hir... I am, for all practical purposes. I no longer buy paper books because I don't want to carry them around. I do still read dead tree books thanks to libraries. The few exceptions are technical books I need for work that are not available as ebooks. I donate them to the libarary at work. -- Charles
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On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Charles Haynes charles.hay...@gmail.comwrote: anyone at all who is *exclusively* an e-book reader? I'd be very interested to meet hem/hir... I am, for all practical purposes. Is for all practical purposes the same as yes? No, methinks.Charles...you never read a DTP (Dead Tree Production) on a flight? I want to be the person who invents the next-gen longest-life battery/power source. D.
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On Tuesday 21 December 2010 07:37 PM, Deepa Mohan wrote: Is for all practical purposes the same as yes? No, methinks.Charles...you never read a DTP (Dead Tree Production) on a flight? I want to be the person who invents the next-gen longest-life battery/power source. For all practical purposes, the typical ultralight laptop has like 5:30 of battery life. Use your laptop, sleep or hibernate it when you're sleeping, eating, catching an inflight movie etc and you should be ok on a typical india-europe or transatlantic flight.
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On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Charles Haynes charles.hay...@gmail.com wrote: anyone at all who is *exclusively* an e-book reader? I'd be very interested to meet hem/hir... I am, for all practical purposes. Is for all practical purposes the same as yes? No, methinks. Well like I said, I don't buy dead tree books unless there is no alternative (and doing without is an alternative!) I do still borrow some from the library, like David Thompson's Thai Street Food which is a huge gorgeously photographed book on one of my favorite subjects, but I am converting the pages I want to keep for reference into a form I can read in my e-book reader, then I'm returning the book to the library. Charles...you never read a DTP (Dead Tree Production) on a flight? I read most of my books on my phone now. Six in the last two months. Not allowed during take-off and landing, but otherwise no problem on flights. I want to be the person who invents the next-gen longest-life battery/power source. I get 24hrs+ on my phone, 12+ even when reading books pretty continuously. The e-ink platforms have very good battery life but they (and paper) need external light. I can read books on my phone in the dark! -- Charles
[silk] Kindle readers?
From a journo friend of mine. Any suggestions? hope all is well. so far so good here. would you know anyone in bangalore who read books only on kindle, i-pad, etc? it's for an article. Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
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On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: From a journo friend of mine. Any suggestions? hope all is well. so far so good here. would you know anyone in bangalore who read books only on kindle, i-pad, etc? it's for an article. The 'only on' clause is interesting. Given certain limitations of the devices and, availability of content, I'd be interested in knowing who, after the purchase of a similar device, is shunning physical books completely :) -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/
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Udhay Shankar N [21/12/10 08:57 +0530]: From a journo friend of mine. Any suggestions? hope all is well. so far so good here. would you know anyone in bangalore who read books only on kindle, i-pad, etc? it's for an article. I dont shun regular books and got a closet full of them. But yes I have a lot of books on my kindle (kindle for pc, mind you) and read on that. Mostly because I spend lots of time online and also because at least some books that I need are far cheaper on the kindle than on paper. Also - I travel lots, with a laptop, and I do hate to leave books behind in airplanes and hotel rooms, so that I almost never carry paperbacks with me when I travel.
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I've been 80-20 in favour of the Kindle for the better part of this year. That's a problem for me because I do have a rather large stash of unread deadtrees on my shelf (which is almost completely out of space). Also, I do most of my reading on my commute to work, and the Kindle is way better in that environment than a paperback. I can see myself giving up printed books for good, once the inventory and pricing of e-books catch up with my expectations. -- Sumant Srivathsan http://sumants.blogspot.com
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On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Sumant Srivathsan suma...@gmail.comwrote: I can see myself giving up printed books for good, once the inventory and pricing of e-books catch up with my expectations. That last part of the sentence, after the comma anyone at all who is *exclusively* an e-book reader? I'd be very interested to meet hem/hir...
Re: [silk] Kindle readers?
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: From a journo friend of mine. Any suggestions? hope all is well. so far so good here. would you know anyone in bangalore who read books only on kindle, i-pad, etc? it's for an article. I read on the Kindle, but I'm not in Bangalore. I've read ebooks on every electronic device I've owned in the last 15 years. Despite this my dead tree collection is quite voluminous. I don't see these replacing paper books ever, however it's quite convenient to cart along a whole bookshelf with you. Cheeni
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On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 12:45 PM, gabin kattukaran gkattuka...@gmail.comwrote: I have a similar experience. Have been reading on electronic devices for several years but don't see it completely replacing the dead tree collection. I'm sure I still prefer paper for the books that I want to hold on to. I think it's similar to the difference between facebook friends and real life friends. With real estate prices in Mumbai being what they are, I first check to see if new books are available on the Kindle. If they are, it makes sense to buy the Kindle version because it is less expensive and saves me some precious real estate in my home. For example, I recently purchased books like Comingled Code because there was Kindle version of that book. Current real estate prices where I live (Vikhroli, inside the Godrej complex) range from Rs 9000 per square feet onwards, which is the cost of one Kindle, if purchased in the US. I estimate that my book collection occupies around 20 square feet or about Rs 180,000 worth of real estate. Venky PS: I am now wondering if the purchase cost of my hard copy books would add up to Rs 180,000 :-)
