Re: [silk] Andy Deemer Does Bangalore Breakfast Joints

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

On 30-Jan-2013, at 12:05, Bonobashi  wrote:

> On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Chew Lin Kay  wrote:
> 
>> Tangetially related to starting the day right:
>> 
>> http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/29/fighting-fat-at-india-inc-one-dosa-at-a-time/

97 kilos, 6 feet tall, 36 years old.  I thank you for this.

Re: [silk] Andy Deemer Does Bangalore Breakfast Joints

[Bonobashi]

On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Chew Lin Kay  wrote:

> Tangetially related to starting the day right:
> 
> http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/29/fighting-fat-at-india-inc-one-dosa-at-a-time/
> 
> Fighting Fat at India Inc., One Dosa at a TimeBy SARITHA
> RAI
> [image: A screenshot of the]Courtesy of HealthifyMeA screenshot of the
> “HealthifyMe” application.
> LIFE AND LOVE IN THE NEW
> BANGALORE
> 
> Tales of ambition and youth from India’s outsourcing hub.
> 
> Six-footer Sanjay Jain is at least 15 kilograms (33 pounds) overweight at
> 95 kilograms. Typical of many of his Bangalore peers, Mr. Jain puts on
> weight, loses weight and then starts the whole cycle anew.
> 
> Like many professionals in Bangalore and urban Indians everywhere, Mr.
> Jain, 46, works late hours, trains in stops and bursts, and, until
> recently, paid scant attention to what, when and how much he ate.
> 
> But a few months ago Mr. Jain, a software industry professional and a
> budding entrepreneur at the Silicon Valley venture capitalist Vinod
> Khosla’s Khosla Labs in Bangalore, decided to lose weight and signed up as
> a tester for an app called HealthifyMe.  For the
> first time, the vegetarian began measuring what he ate, not just in
> calories but also in nutritional content.
> 
> Mr. Jain, who said he considered himself well educated about dietary
> choices, was jolted when he found out that his carbohydrate-laden diet
> contained barely any proteins. “I was stunned to see that 70 percent or
> more of my intake consisted of carbs, and it was a high-fat and low-protein
> diet,” he said.
> 
> Mr. Jain’s struggle parallels that of HealthifyMe’s co-founder Tushar
> Vashisht, a University of Pennsylvania graduate and former investment
> banker who gained 18 kilograms within a year of returning to India to work
> for the country’s Unique Identity project.
> 
> “Corporate India happened to me,” said Mr. Vashisht, who confessed that he
> used to unthinkingly order entire vegetarian menus at fast food restaurants.
> Courtesy of Tushar VashishtTwo of the co-founders of HealthifyMe, Tushar
> Vashisht, left, and Mathew Cherian.
> 
> Starting on a fitness regimen was hard enough, but when it came to his
> diet, Mr. Vashisht said he was flummoxed. In a country of a billion-plus
> people and a food heritage of thousands of years, there was no easy way to
> track nutrition and calories in common Indian dishes. Calorie counters
> developed in the West could not tally the calories of Mr. Vashisht’s
> beloved Indian food.
> 
> Around him in Bangalore, entrepreneurs were starting to tackle uniquely
> Indian problems by devising their own innovative technology solutions. So
> Mr. Vashisht, 28, and Mathew Cherian, also 28, a computer science graduate
> from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, set to work creating an
> application for the Indian diet. (Mr. Vashisht and Mr. Cherian once
> conducted a month-long experiment on the diet of poor Indians by living on
> 100 rupees a 
> day
> .)
> 
> The two were joined later by a third co-founder, Sachin Shenoy, a holder of
> five patents who helped build many consumer products at Google.
> 
> “India Inc. is a one-way ticket to being obese, diabetic and hypertensive,”
> said Mr. Vashisht, who cited a study by the Indian Council for Research on
> International Economic Relations that suggested that half of white-collar
> India is prone to lifestyle diseases and that 71 percent of the workforce
> and 82 percent of chief executives were overweight.
> 
> “Living on salads is unworkable in India, so we need solutions that can
> work for our own food and eating culture,” he said.
> 
> Mr. Vashisht and Mr. Cherian first digitized hundreds of pieces of data on
> Indian raw ingredients, with their micro- and macro-nutrient counts, from
> dusty files at the National Institute of Nutrition in Hyderabad. They
> integrated them with records from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration
> database of 10,000 raw ingredients.
> 
> After stitching the two together, they built a comprehensive database of
> nutritional values for thousands of standardized Indian recipes. With
> expert help from endocrinologists, dieticians and gym trainers, HealthifyMe
> is set to become the country’s first comprehensive calorie tracker for
> everything from thepla (a western Indian flatbread with greens) to bisibele
> bath (a rice and lentil dish from the south) to sabudana khichdi (a savory
> pudding made from sago pearls and peanuts).
> 
> In India, even diet experts, fitness professionals and hospitals struggle
> to provide their clients accurate calorific counts and nutritional data,
> said Sheela Krishnaswamy, a clinical dietician based in Bangalore.
> 
> “Making a database of all Indian foods across cuisin

Re: [silk] Andy Deemer Does Bangalore Breakfast Joints

[Sean Doyle]

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Srini RamaKrishnan wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Sean Doyle  wrote:
>
> > I would welcome that. We're having a definite quality control problem
> here.
> > Fox has been aiming at a 3 year old mentality (mine! all mine!) but the
> > rest of the media isn't as coherent.  And.. to prevent too much thread
> > drift - our Congress could definitely use an upgrade. Remember - these
> are
> > the culinary daredevils that wanted to rename "French Fries" to "Freedom
> > Fries". Nutella would be pretty radical in their book. Perhaps if we made
> > the food on Capitol Hill spicier all these people would leave and their
> > replacements would be more interesting.
> >
>
> There's an old expression, 'Quando dio, vuole castigarci ci manda, quello
> che desideriamo.' When the Gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers.
>

Hm. I wonder what prayers these Congressmen are the answer to?  Or
perhaps.. I have a vague memory of Kingsley Amis' "Lucky Jim" - God does
extract retribution for evil.. he just has very bad aim.

Re: [silk] Andy Deemer Does Bangalore Breakfast Joints

[Srini RamaKrishnan]

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Sean Doyle  wrote:

> I would welcome that. We're having a definite quality control problem here.
> Fox has been aiming at a 3 year old mentality (mine! all mine!) but the
> rest of the media isn't as coherent.  And.. to prevent too much thread
> drift - our Congress could definitely use an upgrade. Remember - these are
> the culinary daredevils that wanted to rename "French Fries" to "Freedom
> Fries". Nutella would be pretty radical in their book. Perhaps if we made
> the food on Capitol Hill spicier all these people would leave and their
> replacements would be more interesting.
>

There's an old expression, 'Quando dio, vuole castigarci ci manda, quello
che desideriamo.' When the Gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers.

Re: [silk] Andy Deemer Does Bangalore Breakfast Joints

[Sean Doyle]

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram  wrote:

> On 29 January 2013 19:08, Sean Doyle  wrote:
>
> > materials from food long ago and now focus on packaging.  And we're now
> > working on the education system so that the eight year old mentality
> > persists into adulthood.
> >
>
> Judging by your media and your Congress, surely you've perfected that? If
> not, I'm sure we can set up an exchange program with our media and pols.
>

I would welcome that. We're having a definite quality control problem here.
Fox has been aiming at a 3 year old mentality (mine! all mine!) but the
rest of the media isn't as coherent.  And.. to prevent too much thread
drift - our Congress could definitely use an upgrade. Remember - these are
the culinary daredevils that wanted to rename "French Fries" to "Freedom
Fries". Nutella would be pretty radical in their book. Perhaps if we made
the food on Capitol Hill spicier all these people would leave and their
replacements would be more interesting.

Re: [silk] Andy Deemer Does Bangalore Breakfast Joints

[Ramakrishnan Sundaram]

On 29 January 2013 19:08, Sean Doyle  wrote:

> materials from food long ago and now focus on packaging.  And we're now
> working on the education system so that the eight year old mentality
> persists into adulthood.
>

Judging by your media and your Congress, surely you've perfected that? If
not, I'm sure we can set up an exchange program with our media and pols.

Ram

Re: [silk] Andy Deemer Does Bangalore Breakfast Joints

[Sean Doyle]

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Srini RamaKrishnan wrote:
>
>
> That's right, a thousand year old culinary tradition handed down from
> father to son, cultivator to cultivator, gourmand to gourmand, and wood
> fire to wood fire to deliver the best of the farm on to the plate needs
> help from an industrial manufacturing process designed for maximum shelf
> life and taste that polls well among eight year olds.
>

This is one area where the US is ahead of India. We removed biodegradable
materials from food long ago and now focus on packaging.  And we're now
working on the education system so that the eight year old mentality
persists into adulthood.

Re: [silk] Andy Deemer Does Bangalore Breakfast Joints

[Srini RamaKrishnan]

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Andy Deemer  wrote:

Hey -- I was just going off the Deccan Herald's 99 Dosa recc's...
> http://www.deccanherald.com/content/217211/content/217419/F


Yes we are a billion people, so I think we've earned our right to produce a
few idiots, and some of them or all of them even work in newspapers.


But it did sound so damn tasty!  In fact, next time I head to
> Vidyarthi Bhavan, maybe I'll take a jar of nutella with me.  ;P


That's right, a thousand year old culinary tradition handed down from
father to son, cultivator to cultivator, gourmand to gourmand, and wood
fire to wood fire to deliver the best of the farm on to the plate needs
help from an industrial manufacturing process designed for maximum shelf
life and taste that polls well among eight year olds.

Re: [silk] Andy Deemer Does Bangalore Breakfast Joints

[Naresh]

This is like " Debbie does Dallas" !!:)

Naresh Narasimhan
Sent from my Phone

On 29-Jan-2013, at 6:09 PM, Venkatesh Hariharan  wrote:

> Andy, if you come to Garodia Nagar, give me a shout. I live nearby and the
> Mysore Masala Rosa there is my favorite.
> 
> Venky
> On Jan 29, 2013 4:38 PM, "Andy Deemer"  wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 You mentioned asking the guy whether he does a chocolate dosa
>>> 
>>> That ranks a close second to asking for cold milk with tea, and as such
>>> rates as due grounds for deportation. We don't want these types here, I
>>> have to now go to sleep with this rattling around in my head. I'm
>>> contemplating war crimes.
>> 
>> Hey -- I was just going off the Deccan Herald's 99 Dosa recc's...
>> http://www.deccanherald.com/content/217211/content/217419/F
>> But it did sound so damn tasty!  In fact, next time I head to
>> Vidyarthi Bhavan, maybe I'll take a jar of nutella with me.  ;P
>> 
>> @Suresh, I think a Garodia Nagar trip is now in order!!!  (Thx for the
>> post, btw.)
>> 
>> 

Re: [silk] Andy Deemer Does Bangalore Breakfast Joints

[Venkatesh Hariharan]

Andy, if you come to Garodia Nagar, give me a shout. I live nearby and the
Mysore Masala Rosa there is my favorite.

Venky
On Jan 29, 2013 4:38 PM, "Andy Deemer"  wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan 
> wrote:
> >
> > > You mentioned asking the guy whether he does a chocolate dosa
> >
> > That ranks a close second to asking for cold milk with tea, and as such
> > rates as due grounds for deportation. We don't want these types here, I
> > have to now go to sleep with this rattling around in my head. I'm
> > contemplating war crimes.
>
> Hey -- I was just going off the Deccan Herald's 99 Dosa recc's...
> http://www.deccanherald.com/content/217211/content/217419/F
> But it did sound so damn tasty!  In fact, next time I head to
> Vidyarthi Bhavan, maybe I'll take a jar of nutella with me.  ;P
>
> @Suresh, I think a Garodia Nagar trip is now in order!!!  (Thx for the
> post, btw.)
>
>

Re: [silk] Andy Deemer Does Bangalore Breakfast Joints

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Thale mamsa being head cheese and koli saru being chicken gravy

Ohh yes with ragi mudde sounds like an idea.

--srs (iPad)

On 29-Jan-2013, at 17:16, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
>  wrote:
> 
>> Breakfast .. dosas or idiappam with random meat gravies in chennai, nihari
>> kulcha in hyderabad or delhi .. udhay, what's the bangalore equivalent?
> 
> The Bangalore equivalent would be the various rural Karnatake-style
> non-veg things like "thale maamsa" and koli saru with idli and dosa,
> or with ragi mudde.
> 
> One could also do biryani and paaya at 6am - there are carts which
> sell it in the city market area which are long gone (having sold out
> their day's stock) by 7am or so.
> 
> Udhay
> 
> --
> 
> ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
> 

Re: [silk] Andy Deemer Does Bangalore Breakfast Joints

[Udhay Shankar N]

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
 wrote:

> Breakfast .. dosas or idiappam with random meat gravies in chennai, nihari
> kulcha in hyderabad or delhi .. udhay, what's the bangalore equivalent?

The Bangalore equivalent would be the various rural Karnatake-style
non-veg things like "thale maamsa" and koli saru with idli and dosa,
or with ragi mudde.

One could also do biryani and paaya at 6am - there are carts which
sell it in the city market area which are long gone (having sold out
their day's stock) by 7am or so.

Udhay

--

((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Andy Deemer Does Bangalore Breakfast Joints

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Andy Deemer [29/01/13 16:38 +0530]:


@Suresh, I think a Garodia Nagar trip is now in order!!!  (Thx for the
post, btw.)



go to shivajinagar in bangalore for some meaty, artery clogging goodness in
your breakfast. 


say empire - though that's a bit of a late (or a very early) breakfast,
open from 11 AM to past midnight.

Breakfast .. dosas or idiappam with random meat gravies in chennai, nihari
kulcha in hyderabad or delhi .. udhay, what's the bangalore equivalent?

Re: [silk] Andy Deemer Does Bangalore Breakfast Joints

[Andy Deemer]

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan  wrote:
>
> > You mentioned asking the guy whether he does a chocolate dosa
>
> That ranks a close second to asking for cold milk with tea, and as such
> rates as due grounds for deportation. We don't want these types here, I
> have to now go to sleep with this rattling around in my head. I'm
> contemplating war crimes.

Hey -- I was just going off the Deccan Herald's 99 Dosa recc's...
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/217211/content/217419/F
But it did sound so damn tasty!  In fact, next time I head to
Vidyarthi Bhavan, maybe I'll take a jar of nutella with me.  ;P

@Suresh, I think a Garodia Nagar trip is now in order!!!  (Thx for the
post, btw.)

Re: [silk] Andy Deemer Does Bangalore Breakfast Joints

[Srini RamaKrishnan]

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
wrote:

> You mentioned asking the guy whether he does a chocolate dosa


That ranks a close second to asking for cold milk with tea, and as such
rates as due grounds for deportation. We don't want these types here, I
have to now go to sleep with this rattling around in my head. I'm
contemplating war crimes.