Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-06-01 Thread Deepa Mohan

Lendable to any silklister who asks.
Udhay


One Of These Days, I will get a Round Tuit.

Deepa.

On 6/1/07, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Vardhini Shankar wrote: [ on 10:00 AM 5/30/2007 ]

>A Tamil writer well worth reading is Asokamithran , if you can find
>good translations of his novels or short stories.

I have a bunch of translations of Jayakanthan's [1] work, by my uncle
Dr. KS Subramanian. Lendable to any silklister who asks.

Udhay

[1] http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2208/stories/20050422000708500.htm



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Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-06-01 Thread Udhay Shankar N

Vardhini Shankar wrote: [ on 10:00 AM 5/30/2007 ]

A Tamil writer well worth reading is Asokamithran , if you can find 
good translations of his novels or short stories.


I have a bunch of translations of Jayakanthan's [1] work, by my uncle 
Dr. KS Subramanian. Lendable to any silklister who asks.


Udhay

[1] http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2208/stories/20050422000708500.htm



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Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-30 Thread Udhay Shankar N

ashok _ wrote: [ on 08:09 PM 5/30/2007 ]


there is an extremely funny description of the wife, and the
circumstances of the marriage in the biographical book about naipaul
"Sir Vidia's Shadow..." by naipaul's former protege...paul theroux


This might be of interest:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/silk-list/message/4794

Udhay

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Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-30 Thread ashok _

there is an extremely funny description of the wife, and the
circumstances of the marriage in the biographical book about naipaul
"Sir Vidia's Shadow..." by naipaul's former protege...paul theroux

On 5/29/07, shiv sastry  wrote:


Must be true love because they do not seem to allow personal views and
ideology to get in the way of their marriage. Naipaul is an astute observer
and his descriptions are exquisite. His "Islam" series also makes good
reading - "Among the Believers" and "Beyond Belief"






Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-30 Thread Vardhini Shankar
I got this link from him :
http://firstandsecond.com/store/books/info/search.asp?styp=ath&stxt=Ashokamitran



Vardhini

- Original Message 
From: Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:38:06 PM
Subject: Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

Vardhini Shankar wrote [at 10:00 AM 5/30/2007] :

>A Tamil writer well worth reading is Asokamithran , if you can find 
>good translations of his novels or short stories. I was told by a 
>friend that there is an excellent translation of his "padinettavadhu 
>atchakkodu" (18th parallel), available in English . I don't know who 
>the publisher is, though.

I have BCC:d the person who translates Asokamitran's work on this 
message - he may respond with the required information.

Udhay
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Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread Udhay Shankar N

Vardhini Shankar wrote [at 10:00 AM 5/30/2007] :

A Tamil writer well worth reading is Asokamithran , if you can find 
good translations of his novels or short stories. I was told by a 
friend that there is an excellent translation of his "padinettavadhu 
atchakkodu" (18th parallel), available in English . I don't know who 
the publisher is, though.


I have BCC:d the person who translates Asokamitran's work on this 
message - he may respond with the required information.


Udhay
--
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Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread Vardhini Shankar
A Tamil writer well worth reading is Asokamithran , if you can find good 
translations of his novels or short stories. I was told by a friend that there 
is an excellent translation of his "padinettavadhu atchakkodu" (18th parallel), 
available in English . I don't know who the publisher is, though.

Vardhini

- Original Message 
From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:52:59 PM
Subject: Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

Pavithra Sankaran [29/05/07 20:45 -0700]:
>--- Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> About your translated indian lit - DO read ponniyin
>> selvan, and AK mahadevan's
>> translations of sangam era tamil poetry.
>
>Surely you mean AK Ramanujam?

yes! my brains seem to be melting :(







Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Pavithra Sankaran [29/05/07 20:45 -0700]:

--- Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


About your translated indian lit - DO read ponniyin
selvan, and AK mahadevan's
translations of sangam era tamil poetry.


Surely you mean AK Ramanujam?


yes! my brains seem to be melting :(



Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread Pavithra Sankaran
--- Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> About your translated indian lit - DO read ponniyin
> selvan, and AK mahadevan's
> translations of sangam era tamil poetry.

Surely you mean AK Ramanujam?


   
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Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Thaths wrote:
> I did read some translated short stories of Kalki and they seemed
> overly emotional. I do have a couple of volumes of Ponniyin Selvan in
> translation lying around. Inertia has been too strong to overcome with
> getting them started.

I grew up counting Sir Walter Scott and RL Stevenson among my favorite
authors. That kind of makes me appreciate Kalki a bit better.

If you want hard edged modern prose he isnt the man for you

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Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread Thaths

On 5/29/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

malgonkar was insipid. One VERY good guy you need to read is Sasthi Brata,
if you can get any of his books at all. Fast paced prose (theres one called
"My God Died Young" I think.. a young bong who drops out of college, and
becomes a successful author via the delhi slums, a delhi newspaper circa
pre-emergency indira gandhi, working class london and europe, where he goes
before suddenly finding himself without any money at all, there's plenty of
sex too, written as good sex should be written about)


I will check him out.


About your translated indian lit - DO read ponniyin selvan, and AK mahadevan's
translations of sangam era tamil poetry.


I did read some translated short stories of Kalki and they seemed
overly emotional. I do have a couple of volumes of Ponniyin Selvan in
translation lying around. Inertia has been too strong to overcome with
getting them started.

Thaths
--
Homer: He has all the money in the world, but there's one thing he can't buy.
Marge: What's that?
Homer: (pause) A dinosaur.
   -- Homer J. Simpson
Sudhakar ChandraSlacker Without Borders



Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Thaths [29/05/07 15:07 -0700]:

Frankly, I found most fiction writers in English in the pre-1980s
boring. This includes the likes of Manohar Malgonkar. And I have not


malgonkar was insipid. One VERY good guy you need to read is Sasthi Brata,
if you can get any of his books at all. Fast paced prose (theres one called
"My God Died Young" I think.. a young bong who drops out of college, and
becomes a successful author via the delhi slums, a delhi newspaper circa
pre-emergency indira gandhi, working class london and europe, where he goes
before suddenly finding himself without any money at all, there's plenty of
sex too, written as good sex should be written about)

About your translated indian lit - DO read ponniyin selvan, and AK mahadevan's
translations of sangam era tamil poetry.



Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread Thaths

On 5/28/07, Bharat Shetty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://indianeconomy.org/2006/06/18/ten-best-books-on-india/


My personal favorite writing about India:

* R.K. Narayan. Especially _Swami and Friends_, _Bachelor of Arts_ or
_The Talkative Man_. You being from Mysore MUST read him. And please
pay a visit to the house he lived in on Yadavagiri. Till I read
Narayan for the first time I never knew how simple prose can describe
Indian scenes so beautifully.

* Midnight's Children by Salman Rushdie. With Rushdie I found someone
who could describe India in edgy modern prose.

* Discovery of India by Nehru. However much people tend to blame him
and his politics for the ills of India in the 70's and 80's, I think
he was probably one of the best PMs young India could have had. Also
recommend - a DVD of the TV show _Bharat ek Khoj_ that was based on
Nehru's book.

* Naipaul's India trilogy. In order.

* William Dalrymple's travelogue

* Khushwant Singh's columns for the Illustrated Weekly

Frankly, I found most fiction writers in English in the pre-1980s
boring. This includes the likes of Manohar Malgonkar. And I have not
yet come across a good English translation of any Indian books.
Unfortunately, my ability to read Tamil and Hindi are quite
rudimentary and I am only exposed to Indian literature in local
languages through their English translations.

Thaths
--
Homer: He has all the money in the world, but there's one thing he can't buy.
Marge: What's that?
Homer: (pause) A dinosaur.
   -- Homer J. Simpson
Sudhakar ChandraSlacker Without Borders



Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread Deepa Mohan

On 5/29/07, shiv sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tuesday 29 May 2007 9:24 pm, ashok _ wrote:
> That writer is married to a pakistani ...

Must be true love because they do not seem to allow personal views and
ideology to get in the way of their marriage. Naipaul is an astute observer
and his descriptions are exquisite. His "Islam" series also makes good
reading - "Among the Believers" and "Beyond Belief"

Naipaul, describing shit on the pavement in Mumbai writes of "..twists and
butts and squirts of excrement.." which I believe is one of the best
descriptions I have read of what I actually do see on pavements.

He also has a very interesting description of a "South Indian" eating a meal
off a leaf in a train. The description may be offensive to some if one does
not put it in the context of the time he made the journey - but the
description is accurate and exceedingly funny. He talks of the way in which
the eater gathers up curds and rice into a ball in his fingers and pops the
ball into his mouth as if to surprise the ball and catch it unawares.

shiv



Only a gastroenterologist would describe Naipaul's descriptions in the
reverse order down the G I tract!

I love R K Narayan's description(in Swami and Friends) of Swami's
thoughts, when lost in the Mempi forests, about how his mother would
serve the curds and rice on the leaf...

Deepa.

On 5/29/07, shiv sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tuesday 29 May 2007 9:24 pm, ashok _ wrote:
> That writer is married to a pakistani ...

Must be true love because they do not seem to allow personal views and
ideology to get in the way of their marriage. Naipaul is an astute observer
and his descriptions are exquisite. His "Islam" series also makes good
reading - "Among the Believers" and "Beyond Belief"

Naipaul, describing shit on the pavement in Mumbai writes of "..twists and
butts and squirts of excrement.." which I believe is one of the best
descriptions I have read of what I actually do see on pavements.

He also has a very interesting description of a "South Indian" eating a meal
off a leaf in a train. The description may be offensive to some if one does
not put it in the context of the time he made the journey - but the
description is accurate and exceedingly funny. He talks of the way in which
the eater gathers up curds and rice into a ball in his fingers and pops the
ball into his mouth as if to surprise the ball and catch it unawares.

shiv






Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread shiv sastry
On Tuesday 29 May 2007 9:24 pm, ashok _ wrote:
> That writer is married to a pakistani ...

Must be true love because they do not seem to allow personal views and 
ideology to get in the way of their marriage. Naipaul is an astute observer 
and his descriptions are exquisite. His "Islam" series also makes good 
reading - "Among the Believers" and "Beyond Belief"

Naipaul, describing shit on the pavement in Mumbai writes of "..twists and 
butts and squirts of excrement.." which I believe is one of the best 
descriptions I have read of what I actually do see on pavements.

He also has a very interesting description of a "South Indian" eating a meal 
off a leaf in a train. The description may be offensive to some if one does 
not put it in the context of the time he made the journey - but the 
description is accurate and exceedingly funny. He talks of the way in which 
the eater gathers up curds and rice into a ball in his fingers and pops the 
ball into his mouth as if to surprise the ball and catch it unawares.

shiv



Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread Thaths

On 5/29/07, ashok _ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

How could you ! That writer is married to a pakistani ...


Heh! He _was_ invited as a special guest by the then-ruling BJP-led
government in 2004 before they got trounced on their India Shining
campaign.

Thaths
--
Homer: He has all the money in the world, but there's one thing he can't buy.
Marge: What's that?
Homer: (pause) A dinosaur.
   -- Homer J. Simpson
Sudhakar ChandraSlacker Without Borders



Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread ashok _

How could you ! That writer is married to a pakistani ...

On 5/29/07, shiv sastry wrote:

I have not read ten books on India

Naipaul's trilogy :"Area of darkness", "Wounded civilization" and "Million
Mutinies"




Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread Sriram Karra

On 5/29/07, Divya Sampath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I still recommend the book. Highly readable. YMMV, obviously.
Cheers,
Divya


I'd agree.

-Karra



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-Original Message-
From: Kiran Jonnalagadda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:06:32
To:silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.


On 29-May-07, at 11:40 AM, Divya wrote:

> - India: From Midnight to the Millennium and Beyond - Shashi Tharoor

Is Shashi Tharoor any good? His book's received a sound thrashing
from Amazon's reviewers, who point out that Tharoor is unable to
distinguish between his own life and the growth of the country.

http://www.amazon.com/India-Midnight-Millennium-Shashi-Tharoor/dp/
0060977531/

For example:

> Well, Taroor got one thing right. When he says in the introduction
> that this is a "personal account" rather than an objective attempt
> at a modern history of India, that should have set the alarm bells
> ringing.
> "From Midnight to the Millennium" is a very long book about India's
> first 50 years of independent existence. The chapters are laid out
> by theme: caste, politics, economics, religion, future prospects
> and so on.
> But in fact, every chapter covers the same topic: Shashi Taroor.
> Shashi Taroor the country boy made good, Shashi Taroor the
> precocious child sage, Shashi Taroor the intellectual with too much
> insight to relate to his boorish countrymen. When you notice that
> the book starts with an account of a 19 year-old Shashi's brief
> meeting as a student reporter with Indira Gandhi, you know what's
> coming. A 400-page monologue from a guy who's been so flattered as
> a genius all his life that he's forgotten what it feels like to
> have to LISTEN. The two most irritating manifestations of Taroor's
> ego are the repetition (if he's proud of an idea he shows it off
> again and again, re-wording it each time) and the occasional clever-
> clever turns of phrase that sometimes even upstage little old India.
> "From Midnight to the Millennium" is twice too long.
> But don't get me wrong. There's interesting material on economic
> liberalisation, the Hindutva movement and political stagnation in
> this book. You just have to read a lot of Shashi Taroor to find it.



> Economics:
> - India Unbound - Gurucharan Das

With this, too, the reader is suggested similar caution.






--
Sriram Karra
Nashik



Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread shiv sastry
I have not read ten books on India

Naipaul's trilogy :"Area of darkness", "Wounded civilization" and "Million 
Mutinies"
Park's "Preventive and Social medicine" is one of the best books I have read 
on India though it is probably useless for the general reader
"May you be the Mother of a Hundred sons" - Elisabeth Bumiller
Kamala Subramaniam's "Mahabharatha"

shiv


On Tuesday 29 May 2007 9:23 am, Bharat Shetty wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I came across this post in The Indian Economy Blog.
>
> http://indianeconomy.org/2006/06/18/ten-best-books-on-india/
>
> Being ignorant on these books so far, I intend to actually buy and read
> over some of them, thereby improving my knowledge on our fabulous country.
> Before I invest my precious Indian rupees over some of the books mentioned,
> please do help me with insights, comments and suggestions regarding the
> books mentioned in the list. The help will be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>  Bharat Shetty | http://freeshell.in/~codo



Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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ashok _ wrote:
> I have heard some good things about  a new book by Ramachandra Guha
> called "India after Gandhi - the history of the worlds largest
> democracy" ... Has anybody read it?
> 

Aside from the fact that it is a heavy tome and thusly makes bad
keep-on-chest-and-lazily-read book it is well written and structured.
Although it does suffer from the same troubles books from Amartya Sen
face - too many links sometimes make you wonder whether an online
version would have been nicer (all hyperlinks etc..)

:Sankarshan


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Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread ashok _

I have heard some good things about  a new book by Ramachandra Guha
called "India after Gandhi - the history of the worlds largest
democracy" ... Has anybody read it?

On 5/29/07, Divya Sampath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I still recommend the book. Highly readable. YMMV, obviously.
Cheers
Divya
Sent from BlackBerry(r) on Airtel

-Original Message-
From: Kiran Jonnalagadda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:06:32
To:silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.


On 29-May-07, at 11:40 AM, Divya wrote:

> - India: From Midnight to the Millennium and Beyond - Shashi Tharoor

Is Shashi Tharoor any good? His book's received a sound thrashing
from Amazon's reviewers, who point out that Tharoor is unable to
distinguish between his own life and the growth of the country.

http://www.amazon.com/India-Midnight-Millennium-Shashi-Tharoor/dp/
0060977531/

For example:

> Well, Taroor got one thing right. When he says in the introduction
> that this is a "personal account" rather than an objective attempt
> at a modern history of India, that should have set the alarm bells
> ringing.
> "From Midnight to the Millennium" is a very long book about India's
> first 50 years of independent existence. The chapters are laid out
> by theme: caste, politics, economics, religion, future prospects
> and so on.
> But in fact, every chapter covers the same topic: Shashi Taroor.
> Shashi Taroor the country boy made good, Shashi Taroor the
> precocious child sage, Shashi Taroor the intellectual with too much
> insight to relate to his boorish countrymen. When you notice that
> the book starts with an account of a 19 year-old Shashi's brief
> meeting as a student reporter with Indira Gandhi, you know what's
> coming. A 400-page monologue from a guy who's been so flattered as
> a genius all his life that he's forgotten what it feels like to
> have to LISTEN. The two most irritating manifestations of Taroor's
> ego are the repetition (if he's proud of an idea he shows it off
> again and again, re-wording it each time) and the occasional clever-
> clever turns of phrase that sometimes even upstage little old India.
> "From Midnight to the Millennium" is twice too long.
> But don't get me wrong. There's interesting material on economic
> liberalisation, the Hindutva movement and political stagnation in
> this book. You just have to read a lot of Shashi Taroor to find it.



> Economics:
> - India Unbound - Gurucharan Das

With this, too, the reader is suggested similar caution.







Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread Divya Sampath
I still recommend the book. Highly readable. YMMV, obviously. 
Cheers
Divya
Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

-Original Message-
From: Kiran Jonnalagadda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:06:32 
To:silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.


On 29-May-07, at 11:40 AM, Divya wrote:

> - India: From Midnight to the Millennium and Beyond - Shashi Tharoor

Is Shashi Tharoor any good? His book's received a sound thrashing  
from Amazon's reviewers, who point out that Tharoor is unable to  
distinguish between his own life and the growth of the country.

http://www.amazon.com/India-Midnight-Millennium-Shashi-Tharoor/dp/ 
0060977531/

For example:

> Well, Taroor got one thing right. When he says in the introduction  
> that this is a "personal account" rather than an objective attempt  
> at a modern history of India, that should have set the alarm bells  
> ringing.
> "From Midnight to the Millennium" is a very long book about India's  
> first 50 years of independent existence. The chapters are laid out  
> by theme: caste, politics, economics, religion, future prospects  
> and so on.
> But in fact, every chapter covers the same topic: Shashi Taroor.  
> Shashi Taroor the country boy made good, Shashi Taroor the  
> precocious child sage, Shashi Taroor the intellectual with too much  
> insight to relate to his boorish countrymen. When you notice that  
> the book starts with an account of a 19 year-old Shashi's brief  
> meeting as a student reporter with Indira Gandhi, you know what's  
> coming. A 400-page monologue from a guy who's been so flattered as  
> a genius all his life that he's forgotten what it feels like to  
> have to LISTEN. The two most irritating manifestations of Taroor's  
> ego are the repetition (if he's proud of an idea he shows it off  
> again and again, re-wording it each time) and the occasional clever- 
> clever turns of phrase that sometimes even upstage little old India.
> "From Midnight to the Millennium" is twice too long.
> But don't get me wrong. There's interesting material on economic  
> liberalisation, the Hindutva movement and political stagnation in  
> this book. You just have to read a lot of Shashi Taroor to find it.



> Economics:
> - India Unbound - Gurucharan Das

With this, too, the reader is suggested similar caution.




Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda

On 29-May-07, at 11:40 AM, Divya wrote:


- India: From Midnight to the Millennium and Beyond - Shashi Tharoor


Is Shashi Tharoor any good? His book's received a sound thrashing  
from Amazon's reviewers, who point out that Tharoor is unable to  
distinguish between his own life and the growth of the country.


http://www.amazon.com/India-Midnight-Millennium-Shashi-Tharoor/dp/ 
0060977531/


For example:

Well, Taroor got one thing right. When he says in the introduction  
that this is a "personal account" rather than an objective attempt  
at a modern history of India, that should have set the alarm bells  
ringing.
"From Midnight to the Millennium" is a very long book about India's  
first 50 years of independent existence. The chapters are laid out  
by theme: caste, politics, economics, religion, future prospects  
and so on.
But in fact, every chapter covers the same topic: Shashi Taroor.  
Shashi Taroor the country boy made good, Shashi Taroor the  
precocious child sage, Shashi Taroor the intellectual with too much  
insight to relate to his boorish countrymen. When you notice that  
the book starts with an account of a 19 year-old Shashi's brief  
meeting as a student reporter with Indira Gandhi, you know what's  
coming. A 400-page monologue from a guy who's been so flattered as  
a genius all his life that he's forgotten what it feels like to  
have to LISTEN. The two most irritating manifestations of Taroor's  
ego are the repetition (if he's proud of an idea he shows it off  
again and again, re-wording it each time) and the occasional clever- 
clever turns of phrase that sometimes even upstage little old India.

"From Midnight to the Millennium" is twice too long.
But don't get me wrong. There's interesting material on economic  
liberalisation, the Hindutva movement and political stagnation in  
this book. You just have to read a lot of Shashi Taroor to find it.





Economics:
- India Unbound - Gurucharan Das


With this, too, the reader is suggested similar caution.




Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Binand Sethumadhavan wrote:
> On 29/05/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> There's the excellent novels
> 
> Mulk Raj Anand's works? Untouchable etc.? Would you recommend him?
> 

Yes, there are several others I'd recommend

Ruskin Bond
Mulk Raj Anand
Munshi Premchand (in Hindi of course)


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Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-29 Thread Binand Sethumadhavan

On 29/05/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

There's the excellent novels


Mulk Raj Anand's works? Untouchable etc.? Would you recommend him?

Binand



Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-28 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Divya wrote:

> Fiction:
> - The Great Indian Novel - Shashi Tharoor
> - A Suitable Boy - Vikram Seth
> - Betrayal and Other Stories- Sivasankari (alas, her best Tamil novels are
> not available in translation)
> - Rich Like Us - Nayantara Sahgal

Sivasankari hasn't impressed me as much as she should, in Tamil or English

I'd suggest A.K.Mahadevan's poetry. Always impressive. And his
translation of sangam era poetry is even better. Probably the best
indian poet, ever.  [There's a few others, such as Nissim Ezekiel..]

There's the excellent novels by Kalki as well - Ponniyin Selvan in
particular in a 6 volume english translation that retains the spirit and
zest of the old tamil novel

> - Ancient India - RC Majumdar

Rajaji's Ramayana and Mahabharata too

Nehru's "Discovery of India" is an all time favorite - the man was
erudite, and could write, for all that his naive belief in russian style
industrial socialism was enough to wreck india.

srs



Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-28 Thread Divya

"Bharat Shetty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


http://indianeconomy.org/2006/06/18/ten-best-books-on-india/

Being ignorant on these books so far, I intend to actually buy and read
over
some of them, thereby improving my knowledge on our fabulous country.
Before
I invest my precious Indian rupees over some of the books mentioned,
please
do help me with insights, comments and suggestions regarding the books
mentioned in the list. The help will be much appreciated.


My personal recommendations for top 10 English language books on India (bear
in mind that these recs are highly skewed toward books I actually choose to
own) - based on content, coverage, and readability - divided by subject:

Historical overview:
- The Wonder That Was India - A.L.Basham (2 volumes)
- India: a History - John Keay

Modern India: Socio-politico-economic commentary:
- The Argumentative Indian: Writings on Indian History, Culture and 
Identity - Amartya Sen

- India: From Midnight to the Millennium and Beyond - Shashi Tharoor

Economics:
- India Unbound - Gurucharan Das
- Development as Freedom - Amartya Sen (while the book is not entirely about 
India, there are

remarkable insights into the Indian economy)

Fiction:
- The Great Indian Novel - Shashi Tharoor
- A Suitable Boy - Vikram Seth
- Betrayal and Other Stories- Sivasankari (alas, her best Tamil novels are
not available in translation)
- Rich Like Us - Nayantara Sahgal

Additional recs:
- anything by RK Narayan, particularly Malgudi Days
- Ancient India - RC Majumdar
- A Cultural History of India  - ed. Al Basham
- Also worth looking at: Sivasankari's project 'Knit India through
Literature' - collects notable literature from Indian writers:  includes
translation, some analysis, and interviews. The multiple volumes are
published by East West books in Chennai.

cheers,
Divya




Re: [silk] Indian Economy's list of best Indian books.

2007-05-28 Thread Zainab Bawa
I have not read Pavan Verma's book 'the great indian
middle class', but I have heard many good reviews
about it from friends. Also picked up a copy of Bimal
Jalan's 'India's Politics' yesterday. Looks good, have
to start reading it!
Cheers,
Z
--- Bharat Shetty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I came across this post in The Indian Economy Blog.
> 
>
http://indianeconomy.org/2006/06/18/ten-best-books-on-india/
> 
> Being ignorant on these books so far, I intend to
> actually buy and read over
> some of them, thereby improving my knowledge on our
> fabulous country. Before
> I invest my precious Indian rupees over some of the
> books mentioned, please
> do help me with insights, comments and suggestions
> regarding the books
> mentioned in the list. The help will be much
> appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
>  Bharat Shetty | http://freeshell.in/~codo
> 


Zainab Bawa 
Mumbai 

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